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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 358

Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2006 10:00:50 PM | message detail
Nidoran F beats everyone that isn't recognizable thanks to being from Pokemon. It's like a much weaker version of Pac-Man. However, put it up against, like...Epona, and it flounders.
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cyko | Posted 9/12/2006 10:07:30 PM | message detail
i will predict that Mario beats Crono by one single vote on the second day of the Battle Royale.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/12/2006 10:14:05 PM | message detail
Nidoran F VS Jade?

Nidoran F without too much trouble. Unfortunately, it could probably beat a large number of characters simply because it comes from something as well known as Pokemon.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/12/2006 10:23:08 PM | message detail
Epona >> Nidoran F, bay-bee.


Let's just go back to Epona, since we had talked about it before: now that we've seen how Nidoran F can do, where would you place Epona stat-wise? Keep in mind that in Samus's worst-case scenario -- that she needs NO adjustments from last year and has gained no new strength since then -- Nidoran F lands at 11.56%. If Samus 2k4 = Samus 2k5/6, Nidoran F lands at 14.34%...

...and considering LoZ >>> Pokemon and being a specific common "partner" would probably help it be more respected than being one of hundreds of various generic reoccuring Pokemon, then depending on where you think Samus is, Epona has practically every right to be stronger than Nidoran F.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/12/2006 10:24:13 PM | message detail
Epona is in Twilight Princess too.

Dun dun dun -- Horse Boost.

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/12/2006 10:28:07 PM | message detail
Let's go back to the classic question then: Epona VS Vyse, who ya got?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2006 10:42:17 PM | message detail
Epona, and I'm not sure why this match would ever be debated. Vyse isn't known by 50% of GameFAQs, not even close. The only reason he ever won is because he faced someone more fodderific than him. He can still be at the level he was at 2k3/2k4, he'll still get stomped (note: this does not mean Epona would necessarily be at that level).
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creativename | Posted 9/12/2006 10:44:11 PM | message detail
I've long said that Epona would show some low midcarder strength.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2006 10:45:35 PM | message detail
If you consider Pac-Man that 'low-midcarder' range, then sure. As far as I'm concerned, that's Epona's ceiling.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/13/2006 12:20:15 AM | message detail
I really needed Ada to look impressive in thismatch, maybe I put a little to much faith in the Resi girls (Ada > Jade, Claire > Kairi, Jill > Peach).

Oh and Tingle VS Nidoran F, who wins?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/13/2006 12:46:49 AM | message detail
Epona would beat Vyse.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/13/2006 3:49:33 AM | message detail
Why all this talk about Epona? Tingle would be more than enough to wipe the floor with Nidoran F!

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 4:31:51 AM | message detail
'Cuz people actually hates Tingle. People don't hate Epona, nor do they hate Nidoran F (as I understand it). Get the connection yet...

...boiiiiiiiiiii?
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 4:33:15 AM | message detail
Oh, and check out the second poll today too guys. Not bad on Wii's behalf, again; right now, it adds up to almost two-thirds of the site getting a Wii this year.....
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Kaxon | Posted 9/13/2006 4:48:37 AM | message detail
CJayC trying to act like he wasn't conspiring against Crono all those years. It's a deception!

Or maybe years of guilt have overwhelmed him and he's decided to back Crono now.


I'm hoping it's the latter... and with Crono finally getting a 1 seed, it all fits. Crono for Battle Royale champion!!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/13/2006 5:07:42 AM | message detail
Unlike Claire, Ada has actually been in the most popular game in the series.

Why does everyone say RE4 > RE2 all of a sudden? Just because of recency? Because it's on the GCN?

Ada being stronger than Claire is debatable? One is in RE4. The other is not. Where's the issue here?

You could use the same argument to say that Cait Sith > Tidus...

Regardless, you can't judge anything off of fodder. Just as RE vs. SH meant nothing, Samus vs. Nidoran F and today's match mean nothing.

Code Veronica bombed like hell, didn't it?

Not really. It certainly performed better than RE3, and RE3 was a great success too. CV was actually the best reviewed RE game, back when it came out.

4 brought in a lot of new people to the series. It was my first RE... after seeing it called the Game of the Year so much, I got it. While that got me into the rest of the series now too, I could see there being a lot of people who are only familiar with 4.

If it brought in so many new people, why were its sales so disappointing?
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MegaReincarnate | Posted 9/13/2006 5:48:29 AM | message detail
Nidoran F would double Jade.

Samus is gonna wipe the floor with Ada, and Jade's going to be one of lowest-ranked characters in contest history.

On the bright side, I'd pick her over Tanner. I think Jade/Aiai would be a tough match, though.
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/13/2006 5:49:09 AM | message detail
Why does everyone say RE4 > RE2 all of a sudden? Just because of recency? Because it's on the GCN?

There's your answer. Plus there's the fact that it's a really good game, and much more casual-friendly when it comes to controlling the game.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/13/2006 5:59:10 AM | message detail
This match is projected to get 102k, not as good as yesterday, but still high.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/13/2006 6:35:44 AM | message detail
Wow.

Even if this match was Leon Kennedy vs. Jade, that would already make Jade look like some uber fodder.

This is... well. Ok. I guess Ada Wong might do better on Jade than Leon would. After all, 2 woman in a match=beauty pageant >_>
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/13/2006 6:48:26 AM | message detail
Jade is like the Brooklyn Brawler of this contest >_>
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Kaxon | Posted 9/13/2006 6:50:50 AM | message detail
On the bright side, I'd pick her over Tanner. I think Jade/Aiai would be a tough match, though.

I'd take Aiai in a second. He's been in what, three moderately popular games now?
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/13/2006 6:51:54 AM | message detail
Aiai could actually stand to do moderately well, I'd think. Him over Jade seems like a no-brainer to me.

Now, Jade/Yuri Hyuga... there's a tossup.
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Kaxon | Posted 9/13/2006 6:56:29 AM | message detail
Yeah, Jade vs Yuri would be a toughy because they're both complete unknowns. I definitely see Aiai beating both just by being a little more recognizable - he was probably SFFed a little in 2003.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/13/2006 6:57:05 AM | message detail
Tom Nook Vs. Jade
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/13/2006 7:35:44 AM | message detail
Why does everyone say RE4 > RE2 all of a sudden? Just because of recency? Because it's on the GCN?

Because 4 is the better game by about 9 miles.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/13/2006 7:40:25 AM | message detail
Must have missed the numerous Game of the Year awards, critic praise, and the fact that a recent game like that almost cracked the GameFAQs top 10 games in the top 100 list
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fishmasterdoug | Posted 9/13/2006 7:42:08 AM | message detail
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/13/2006 8:03:31 AM | message detail
So who will end the highest in the stats? Nidoran F or Carmen?
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Incompetence | Posted 9/13/2006 8:12:58 AM | message detail
RE4 is an action game with a few RE characters thrown in and the "Resident Evil" title slapped on the cover to help it sell. It may be a good action game, but it's a terrible Resident Evil game.

I just don't think the game deserves the praise it gets. I'm not trying to start an argument here, it just pisses me off that I waited all those years for RE4 and it ended up being nothing like what it could have been.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/13/2006 8:18:47 AM | message detail
I was expecting Jade to be around 12% on BL and Ada Wong around 20% on BL...I guess I wasn't too horribly off on either here.

Nidoran F's performance will not phase me...Carmen won't manage 15/16% on BL like Nidoran did.

I'll take Jade over AiAi. I don't think AiAi could get close to 25% on Ada Wong, but more like 20% sounds right...just a feeling here. Besides that, I think Ada is at least at the fodder line, bringing Jade above AiAi in x-stats.

Tom Nook vs. Jade? Hrm...close one, but I'll take Jade, barely, even if Tom Nook might be higher in x-stats by a little.

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Dekar TKB | Posted 9/13/2006 8:20:06 AM | message detail
More people like RE4 because it's an extremely good action game, while RE2 is an extremely good survival horror game. A large amount of gamers prefer action games to survival horror games. That's all there is to it.

Also, it's kinda silly to think RE4 is more popular than RE2 because it's on the gamecube, considering RE2 is on the N64. <_<.
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Dekar TKB | Posted 9/13/2006 8:24:25 AM | message detail
I'd take Tom Nook over Jade without having to think about it much. Animal Crossing is pretty well known: at least much moreso than BG&E. Jade might come off better in the x-stats, but....Eh. Animal Crossing did get a second game, anyway.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/13/2006 8:26:27 AM | message detail
Hrm, I forgot that Tom Nook has had two games since 2K3, especially with how successful AA:WW was, so I'd take Tom over Jade, then.

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Who Cares? | Posted 9/13/2006 9:01:26 AM | message detail
Votals that the halfway mark:

Fire Emblem/Silent Hill -- 54171
Metroid/Kirby -- 53959
Mega Man X/Suikoden -- 53625
Samus/Nidoran F -- 52372
Ada/Jade -- 45608

Lower totals for this match was expected thanks to Jade's obscurity, but still looking good, considering the after school vote.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 9:07:19 AM | message detail
Assuming Ada = Jill = Hayabusa 2k5 (a lil' generous, since I think he was stronger in 2k5 than 2k4...but whatever), Jade is currently below Manny in the stats (10.67%).

Ouch.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/13/2006 9:09:49 AM | message detail
Jesus.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 9:14:22 AM | message detail
Let's go even worse...assuming Ada = Wesker, Jade ends up at 6.99%.

That's below Yuri...unadjusted.
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/13/2006 9:20:53 AM | message detail
How 'bout if Ada = Nemesis?
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 9:30:32 AM | message detail
Nemesis was a VC-only character, so I'm already skeptical of where to place Sephiroth...but, I'll go by CN's site for this one.

If Ada = Nemesis, Jade still lands between Manny and Yuri (I've got her at 9.63%).




I'll go ahead and do Claire too, twice:


If Ada = Claire 2k2, Jade's at 13.52%. If Ada = Claire according to Tidus 2k5, Jade lands at 11.86%
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2006 9:36:53 AM | message detail
Last, though it's unnecessary, if Ada = Leon pre-RE4 port, Jade's at 12.34%.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/13/2006 9:48:27 AM | message detail
Either way, Jade's going to end up below 10% on BL when all is said and done, I believe.
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igordebraga | Posted 9/13/2006 10:03:22 AM | message detail
You know, 1225 people chose Nidoran! 2.87% of the brackets.
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KingBartz | Posted 9/13/2006 10:08:30 AM | message detail
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/13/2006 10:30:22 AM | message detail
Epona is in Twilight Princess too.

Whoa, is this confirmed? Epona is somehow very likeable; hearing that she's in the game makes me feel better about it. She's just awesome like that.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/13/2006 10:38:39 AM | message detail
Jade would beat Tanner, Yuri, and Aiai thanks to TJF.

Tom Nook would beat her easily, unfortunately.

Patience, Bob...only two days until everyone sees how stupid they were when they picked Claire...
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Kaxon | Posted 9/13/2006 11:05:30 AM | message detail
TJF only works if the character looks good. I don't see it helping Jade much.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/13/2006 11:20:24 AM | message detail
Tom Nook would beat her easily, unfortunately.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/13/2006 11:34:49 AM | message detail
Because 4 is the better game by about 9 miles.

According to who? The non-Resident Evil fanbase, that's who. The core Resi fanbase still prefer RE2 to RE4, no doubt RE4 had more casual appeal, but RE2 has the biggest following of Resi fans around. Claire being stronger than Jill in 2K2 isn't some kind of crazy theory. RE2 >>> RE. I wouldn't be surprised to see her finish ahead of Jill this year at all.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 9/13/2006 11:49:08 AM | message detail
And to answer the constant question of who could be this years Magus, I'd definitely say Rikku, not in the sense of being overrated, but in the sense of not a single person taking Claire to win that match.

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