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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 357

Heroic Mario | Posted 9/11/2006 10:36:52 PM | message detail
Mega Man won't be doing anything other than failing to even break 45%!

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Keno316 | Posted 9/11/2006 10:40:22 PM | message detail
Since Leonhart isn't here at the moment...

At 1:20, Samus/Nidoran F has 12651 votes. To compare with other matches at this time:

The Legend of Zelda vs. Civilization - 12852
Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F - 12651
Fire Emblem vs. Silent Hill - 12589
Suikoden vs. Mega Man X - 12439

And here I was thinking it would be unfair to compare this match with some of the series contests' matches...


So...you think Cloud/Link at the end of the BR beating out LoZ/FF a possibility?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/11/2006 11:07:57 PM | message detail
Just for the record, there's a rumor about the Wii launching as early as October 13th circulating around.


And Metroid Prime 3 is indeed going to be at launch -- just to do away with that old rumor.


Ganon > Sonic confirmed

Samus > > > Mega Man even more confirmed. >>

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GavHarrison316 | Posted 9/11/2006 11:09:48 PM | message detail
I voted Nidoran F WTF?!?!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/11/2006 11:53:19 PM | message detail
My lovely little Nido is doing well for herself in a match up where she should be getting murdered by SFF. I guess Samus really can't SFF anyone. I almost feel bad for not nominating Nidoran F, now.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/11/2006 11:59:01 PM | message detail
Pokemon is just poor Samus's kryptonite.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/12/2006 12:24:51 AM | message detail
...Jesus christ almighty. Well, I see this as proof Ganon isn't going to be beating Sonic unless he gets TP.

And, of course, this weakens his position against Vincent. Yum.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/12/2006 12:26:09 AM | message detail
... How in the seven hells did you come up with that nonsense?

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/12/2006 12:31:15 AM | message detail
Is this the same Samus who apparently "SFFed" Ganon? Yes? The Samus who is now having trouble SFFing one of the single biggest joke characters EVER in the contest? Hell, you can make an argument for Nidoran getting slight rSFF.

I don't care if it gets to 85ish (which is unlikely, but hey), this is still a major underperformance. I don't think there's any degree of SFF - this is just the raw strength of the two, pretty much.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/12/2006 12:34:35 AM | message detail
Is this the same Samus who apparently "SFFed" Ganon? Yes? The Samus who is now having trouble SFFing one of the single biggest joke characters EVER in the contest? Hell, you can make an argument for Nidoran getting slight rSFF.

That's one of the things you can adjust Ganon upward for, yes. It's not the only thing that you can use to raise him up some -- he's cleary too low as it is. Dante isn't going to give Ganon a run...ever.

Samus's performance today is underperforming the expectations of 90%+, but there were still a number of people who expected mid-80s for Samus, which is certainly likely to happen if she gets a large favor with the day vote, which she should.

I don't care if it gets to 85ish (which is unlikely, but hey), this is still a major underperformance. I don't think there's any degree of SFF - this is just the raw strength of the two, pretty much.

As of now, if Samus's 2005 value is accurate, it puts Nidoran F right around Cecil's level.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/12/2006 1:26:41 AM | message detail
Now that I've come to terms with the fact that Nidoran is actually getting some votes, I'm wondering how many Pokemon actually have the potential to win a match.

Also, I'm trying to think which Pokemon would be the strongest. I know most people would love a big rally for Mewtwo first, but I have a feeling Charizard would be stronger.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/12/2006 1:28:02 AM | message detail
I think Mewtwo is definitely the strongest Pokemon. Charizard doesn't get the benefit of being in SSBM.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/12/2006 1:36:31 AM | message detail
I get the feeling that Charizard is the one Pokemon that most fans of the series can actually associate with. Whereas Pikachu is the face that the rest of the world knows, Charizard is the one the players, fans, and voters actually like. He was the first Pokemon of millions. He was the first one they leveled up and the first one they took to 100. He was huge in the animated series, was the most expensive and sought-after card, and is, after all, a FIRE-BREATHING DRAGON. In all honesty, I wouldn't be too surprised if all three Red/Blue starters turned out to be stronger than Mewtwo, but Charizard seems to be their leader of sorts.

Oh, and Charizard has technically been in both Smash games, so nyah.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 9/12/2006 1:57:54 AM | message detail
As an item ;>_>
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Kratos_42 | Posted 9/12/2006 3:36:14 AM | message detail
My God. WOO NIDIORIAN F! That's where my vote went. ^_^
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Nelorio11 | Posted 9/12/2006 3:48:34 AM | message detail
Would you think nidoran would stand a chance againts Samus?
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shadow8021 | Posted 9/12/2006 3:52:16 AM | message detail
lol Nidoran F > Sam Fisher and Lara Croft
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 9/12/2006 4:56:45 AM | message detail
I remember signing up for guru contest, where/who do I send my bracket to?
Gooper Blooper | Posted 9/12/2006 5:12:37 AM | message detail
Who could the weakest Pokemon be?

I'm guessing one of the non-evolvers nobody remembers or cares about. Murkrow, Corsola, Mantine, Yanma, Qwilfish, Sableye, Gligar...

Note most of the forgettable guys are from GSC. That gen had good Pokemon (Tyranitar, Lanturn, Octillery, and Typhlosion come immediately to mind), but also had lots of sucky useless ones.
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 9/12/2006 5:19:38 AM | message detail
Goodie... another contest just in time for extended busy season to end!

Though, I am still eternally bitter than Knuckles, Magus and Frog didn't make it in.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/12/2006 5:20:49 AM | message detail
Bah. Bring back Kefka. That man has never had a boring match.

Well, ok. The one against Crono was boring.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/12/2006 5:24:14 AM | message detail
From creativename Posted 9/12/2006 12:27:50 AM #166
This is clearly beyond just joke votes...IMO that was clear about 10 minutes ago. Nidoran F is apparently not a totally useless weakling, like almost all of us (including me) expected her to be.

Oh she is. LUE/LL have just been planning to mass joke vote her for weeks.

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MasterOfHunters | Posted 9/12/2006 5:30:27 AM | message detail
Nevermind, found the topic for the guru contest.
Who Cares? | Posted 9/12/2006 6:11:29 AM | message detail
Heh, so Samus is only at 80% right now? Well hats off to Nidoran F. I'm still ticked you beat out characters like Yuffie, Lulu, Cammy, Morrigan, & Lyndis. But at least you've given us the most entertaining first match ever.

Now all that's left is to see if Nido can finish ahead Yuri's performance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/12/2006 6:21:44 AM | message detail
Samus would have to be pulling over 92% of the vote from here on end if she wants to match Yuri.
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voltch | Posted 9/12/2006 6:44:59 AM | message detail
20% for nidoran F?
pretty good. better than tanner at any rate.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2006 6:47:27 AM | message detail
How are the votals holding up?

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charmander6000 | Posted 9/12/2006 6:53:46 AM | message detail
It's about 50 votes behind FE/SH.
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Phediuk | Posted 9/12/2006 6:59:47 AM | message detail
Oh she is. LUE/LL have just been planning to mass joke vote her for weeks.

Joke votes or not, they're still votes. Nidoran F has proven to have some legitimate support here.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2006 7:02:00 AM | message detail
Nidoran F has support this time, because the joke was funny and fresh. She would never repeat this performance.

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jonthomson | Posted 9/12/2006 7:16:11 AM | message detail
This is hilarious. Crono is now unstoppable.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/12/2006 7:17:06 AM | message detail
^huh?
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jonthomson | Posted 9/12/2006 7:23:20 AM | message detail
Well, Crono's obviously going to win the male side of the bracket... nevermind.

That's it, we need Jigglypuff in the next contest. None of this Mewtwo talk, Jigglypuff's down+B is clearly the best move in the history of all fighting games.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/12/2006 7:39:00 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'm a little surprised at Nidoran F's strength here. I doubt that LUE/LL could get much more than 5,000 votes at the very most.

Oh, and on another note, did anyone know that a DOA movie just came out this past weekend? The fact that I just found out about this now should be all you need to know about whether or not it'll affect matters.
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Kaxon | Posted 9/12/2006 7:43:20 AM | message detail
Well, Crono's obviously going to win the male side of the bracket... nevermind.

Not sure whether you're serious, but if there's one thing this match should show us, it's not to take anything for granted.
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jonthomson | Posted 9/12/2006 7:59:20 AM | message detail
Not sure whether you're serious, but if there's one thing this match should show us, it's not to take anything for granted.

True. For once we can't just assume Freeman is going to lose in round 1 :-)
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Kaxon | Posted 9/12/2006 8:10:18 AM | message detail
Yeah, that was actually one of the first things this result made me think of - if Nidoran can do better than expected, so can other characters that people think are a joke. Phoenix may not win, but I'm pretty sure he won't be as week as some people claimed.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/12/2006 8:13:37 AM | message detail
Well, Nidoran is still from Pokemon. Despite being a joke, that's still draws from the massive fanbase who knows who it is. Phoenix Wright? Eh... jokes aren't going to do that well if they don't get the joke >_<
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/12/2006 8:25:10 AM | message detail
Oh, and on another note, did anyone know that a DOA movie just came out this past weekend? The fact that I just found out about this now should be all you need to know about whether or not it'll affect matters.

It did? You sure about that? I know one of the fighting game sites I visit would have been all over this movie like Board 8 was all over SoaP & I see nothing about that.
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Yesmar | Posted 9/12/2006 8:36:17 AM | message detail
Never mind about the DOA movie. I just checked IMDB and it doesn't come out in the USA until October 20th. MSN Movies Fall Lineup had it coming out September 9th, but I guess they must have gotten it mixed up with the overseas release dates, because it's only been released in Australia and Italy according to IMDB.
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phlyerphan1 | Posted 9/12/2006 8:39:30 AM | message detail
Wait... Nidoran F is on pace for around 20,000 votes right now. Can she really keep this pace up the rest of the day? I wouldn't be surprised to see her fall off to about 15% by the end of the day, but this is still amazing.
The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/12/2006 8:39:55 AM | message detail
WAIT UNTIL THE KIDDIES GET OUT OF SCHOOL
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/12/2006 9:02:01 AM | message detail
Votals at the halfway mark compared to the Series Contest:

Mega Man/Mario Kart -- 56135
Fire Emblem/Silent Hill -- 54171
Metroid/Kirby -- 53959
Mega Man X/Suikoden -- 53625
Samus/Nidoran F -- 52372

Not bad considering people are still in school & all
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/12/2006 9:32:46 AM | message detail
I see all this talk about Ganon > Sonic, he won't even get past Vincent!

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H__RR____H | Posted 9/12/2006 9:49:25 AM | message detail
I concur.
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Mumei | Posted 9/12/2006 9:50:11 AM | message detail
Nice. 88% update.

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H__RR____H | Posted 9/12/2006 10:23:05 AM | message detail
While I'm workin' on my homework, assuming the match finishes like this, could somebody post where ehr strength is at based on various levels for Samus?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/12/2006 10:24:34 AM | message detail
I love this match.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/12/2006 10:55:53 AM | message detail
I see all this talk about Ganon > Sonic, he won't even get past Vincent!

True, Vincent is definitely more of a challenge than Sonic, or even Crono. Vincent is the only real threat to Ganon on his path to victory.
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voltch | Posted 9/12/2006 10:58:35 AM | message detail
vincent/freeman is worthy of being a 8 point match.
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