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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 356

Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:00:41 AM | message detail
It sounds silly now, I admit -- but new games are just so much more to Square characters than they are to Nintendo ones. I mean, c'mon -- a cameo in a new game allowed Cloud to beat Link. A cameo.

Ten years is a long time. Square not screwing it up will be the hard part, anyway.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/10/2006 10:00:42 AM | message detail
If Sora starts to be a man, I hope he gets a real sword instead of a keyblade >_>
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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2006 10:03:12 AM | message detail
To anybody who has someone other than Crono winning the male bracket:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2125
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2126
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2127
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2128

Unless Crono dropped or Mega Man/Sonic boosted, I can't see Crono not winning the male bracket.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/10/2006 10:03:45 AM | message detail
I've been tracking lower seed's lead over Sora for 30 minutes now.

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I see a comeback in the making! This is clearly a hint of what's to come in the next decade!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/10/2006 10:04:17 AM | message detail
Unless Crono dropped or Mega Man/Sonic boosted, I can't see Crono not winning the male bracket.

The latter isn't a stretch by any means.
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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2006 10:05:32 AM | message detail
If Sora wants to have any strength, he needs to lose the clown shoes, positive world view, and stupid key thing that he fights with.


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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2006 10:06:19 AM | message detail
Why though? You need a reason for a boost, and neither of them has had a smash game since last summer.


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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/10/2006 10:06:32 AM | message detail
I just thought, is it a chance that Zero can be SFF'd by Mario but not Mega Man?
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:07:50 AM | message detail
"One of the lower seeds" is definitely all Ganon votes.

Or all Vincent votes.

>_>

Bowser should be in Ganondorf's place, bowser! He's the one supposed to rival Sonic, not Ganondorf.

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frisqo | Posted 9/10/2006 10:07:58 AM | message detail
Just glanced over my bracket, everything looks hot. I'm kind of disappointed in myself though. As much of a RE fanboy that I am, I can't get the myself to change Peach>Jill, Kairi>Claire. C'mon casuals! Don't let me down.
WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:08:01 AM | message detail
Also, if I may say, KH2 has been the only good game, unless I'm forgetting something (which I probably am >_<) that has the tag of Square Enix instead of Squaresoft on it.... just something I noticed.


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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:08:13 AM | message detail
You need a reason for a boost

What was Sonic's last year? He got a very hefty boost...even Mega Man boosted a little if you take the stats at face value.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/10/2006 10:08:39 AM | message detail
KH, I wasn't being serious. <_<; I've been saying since before KH2 that Sora is molding to be a typical Final Fantasy protagonist.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/10/2006 10:08:53 AM | message detail
but new games are just so much more to Square characters than they are to Nintendo ones.

That's because most Square characters only make an appearance once. Cloud benefitted from a cameo so much because that was his first thing since FFVII where he played a role in something so big. It's a bit different with someone like Sora who is already in two games and likely to make another appearance in KH3.whenever they get around to it. I doubt he'd ever be able to take care of Cloud.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:11:56 AM | message detail
You're passing judgment on Sora being in two games (that matter) when we haven't even seen him since KH2? What happens if he gets a boost that's larger than most people anticipate this year?

And Link's been about in a billion and a half games, but that hasn't stopped the calls for him to break 55-57% on Cloud after Twilight Princess...
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:13:21 AM | message detail
I don't think it's humanley possible for Link to GET any stronger. >_>

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/10/2006 10:15:45 AM | message detail
What happens if he gets a boost that's larger than most people anticipate this year?

I was one of the people expecting a rather hefty boost from him this year, beyond people's expectations at least. But if he does happen to do something ridiculous and get 45% on Mega Man or -- God forbid -- win, then I'll definitely take back what I had said before.

Sora does not strike me as someone who would ever be able to garner that type of popularity and status that would allow him to become a champion here. Your scenario is very best case, which is already a problem, and the fact that all these other characters are still going to be getting games. It doesn't take but one game to be that "Twilight Princess" and boost someone like Samus or Solid Snake way up the chain. I'd sooner expect one of them to beat out Link before I ever would Sora.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:19:34 AM | message detail
Sora happens to be the best candidate for Square though, which is one of the biggest two properties here. I have a tough time seeing Samus take down Link (especially her, considering where she gets the majority of her strength from), and Snake is a little better...but he's not truly Square.

I mean, if you wanted the TRUE best case scenario, Square would go, "We need to win this weird internet site's contest!" and start pushing a flurry of new and original games starring Cloud. And make Cloud the main character of KH3 for no reason. Also they would change the name of the company from Square-Enix to Cloud-Ultima. And so forth...
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:22:26 AM | message detail
What's going on, guys? The last flurry of arguments before we get started?

HAHWHAHAHAHAHHA
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/10/2006 10:22:33 AM | message detail
I can see it now -- Cloud is the main character of KH3 and Sora is unplayable but there and we get to see him be all badass from the sidelines.


It seems to be the popular things these days to make the main character not playable but there. I blame Konami.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:23:39 AM | message detail
*cancels preorder on The Little Mermaid DVD*
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:26:03 AM | message detail
I didn't mean anything it was only jokes! ONLY JOOOOOKES
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:28:46 AM | message detail
I was only bluffing. If I canceled this preorder I'd probably kill myself. =/
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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2006 10:29:02 AM | message detail
What was Sonic's last year? He got a very hefty boost...even Mega Man boosted a little if you take the stats at face value.

That's a pretty big if. But IIRC, he had a couple of games between 2k4 and 2k5. Mega Man could've been just from the influx of voters, as it's already been shown that he gets a good chunk of his strength from the Nintendo camp.


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Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2006 10:29:56 AM | message detail
Speaking of last-minute changes, I chickened out of an upset yesterday. Yay!

Also, I've only received Crew write-ups from Lopen so far. Think you can send me something today KH, yo and HM?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:30:59 AM | message detail
Sonic's had a few games between 2k5 and now as well...heck, Mega Man's getting Mega Man ZX right as this contest is starting. And there's always random variation. People need to stop acting like they're bound by the stats...in close matches, their effectiveness drops like a rock as other factors come to the forefront.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/10/2006 10:31:51 AM | message detail
Yeah. I can definitely send you at least one of my write-ups today.

I just recently (two days ago) got a new computer, so all of my write-ups -- they were all done on the female side -- are on my other computer. I plan on transferring them over to this one later today, but at the least, I'll send you Samus/Roll.

Preview -- 92.5%+ for Samus, baby.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:31:53 AM | message detail
I'm trying to send the entire first round at once and it's nearly done...I'm still waffling on some matches though, which is holding me up.

Won't have any choice in a few hours, though!!!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 10:33:11 AM | message detail
I just recently (two days ago) got a new computer, so all of my write-ups -- they were all done on the female side -- are on my other computer. I plan on transferring them over to this one later today, but at the least, I'll send you Samus/Roll.

Looks like we can count on HM's vaunted reliability in this writeup! I'm assuming the loser gets around 8.5%, right? =P
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/10/2006 10:33:43 AM | message detail
Wait, no, Nidoran F.

See how insigificant that lame Pokemon is?!

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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2006 10:37:49 AM | message detail
I realize that Mega Man and Sonic are so close that random fluctuation could change that match. But I think Crono is far enough ahead that he'd need quite the fluctuation to be in any danger.


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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:42:54 AM | message detail
I'll send the first few very shortly.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/10/2006 10:43:50 AM | message detail
he'd need quite the fluctuation to be in any danger.

And it's not by any means THAT large (at least what you're making of it..)
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/10/2006 10:44:38 AM | message detail
And Sora hits 14% and brings Lower Seed's lead under 200!
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Yesmar | Posted 9/10/2006 10:46:43 AM | message detail
It sounds silly now, I admit -- but new games are just so much more to Square characters than they are to Nintendo ones. I mean, c'mon -- a cameo in a new game allowed Cloud to beat Link. A cameo.


Cloud was also behind a huge anomaly in 2002, and it's quite possible that an increase in votals helped increase new-school Square's power in 2003. I don't doubt that the cameo helped out Cloud somewhat, but I doubt it was responsible for most of his boost.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/10/2006 10:50:45 AM | message detail
Preview -- 92.5%+ for Samus, baby.

I like that number, for some strange oddly compelling reason.

*chuckles*
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/10/2006 10:56:23 AM | message detail
I'm calling it now: if Nidoran F can break 7.5% on Samus, a Goomba would avoid the doubling against her.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 9/10/2006 11:27:53 AM | message detail
Tonight's poll will likely be "Which female character do you think will win the battle?"

What percentage do you think Samus will get? What about Zelda?
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/10/2006 11:32:23 AM | message detail
And Sora passes "one of the lower seeds"!

What now, Ganondorf!!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/10/2006 11:33:07 AM | message detail
It sounds silly now, I admit -- but new games are just so much more to Square characters than they are to Nintendo ones. I mean, c'mon -- a cameo in a new game allowed Cloud to beat Link. A cameo.

That's just because of how few games Square characters have. Each progressive KH game will give Sora a smaller and smaller boost. How likely is it that KH3 will give Link as big of a boost as LttP did? KH5 vs. OoT?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/10/2006 11:38:10 AM | message detail
Crono has a much better chance at beating Link then Sora does.

If Square makes another CT game with Crono as the main character, he could boost pretty high.
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Aprosenf | Posted 9/10/2006 11:46:37 AM | message detail
If Sora wants to have any strength, he needs to lose the clown shoes, positive world view, and stupid key thing that he fights with.

But that's where he stores his inventory!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2006 11:51:56 AM | message detail
I read a rumour today that Square-Enix might be developing their own console. Not at all stats related, just a rumour. Jesus christ almighty *steers clear*

FACT OR FICTION: One match in the Male and one match in the Female will end with only 300 votes or less seperating the two.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/10/2006 11:53:51 AM | message detail
Fact.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/10/2006 11:54:14 AM | message detail
I read a rumour today that Square-Enix might be developing their own console. Not at all stats related, just a rumour. Jesus christ almighty *steers clear*

1. That rumor is months old.

2. It's likely about them making some sort of peripheral, not a console. Maybe some extra Wii attachment.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/10/2006 1:17:31 PM | message detail
This topic needs more Claire/Kairi discussion. I know I've probably brought it up several times, but it is possible that Claire has dropped since her last appearance, but is the drop enough for Kairi, a character in KH who hardly does much but still has tons of otaku like fanboy and fangirls to feed some strength off of, to best her?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/10/2006 1:22:28 PM | message detail
I think Kairi will be below the fodder line. I think Claire won't.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/10/2006 1:28:11 PM | message detail
Claire's peformance on Tidus, even if you extrapolate it through 2K4 Tidus gives her a lot of room to drop before I think she's in grave danger, especially since Resident Evil 4 rejuvenated the series' popularity and should slow her free-fall significantly.

It all depends on where you believe Kairi is in strength.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/10/2006 1:29:28 PM | message detail
I think Sora in today's poll says it all. Seriously, who would vote for Sora but not Kairi? >_>
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2006 1:32:56 PM | message detail
...

As you'll soon see, alot of people!
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