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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 356
| cyko | Posted 9/9/2006 8:19:55 PM | message detail |
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strongest character? i still say Mog, simply for the infinite recognizability and lovability of the Moogles!! --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/9/2006 8:22:20 PM | message detail |
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I think Roy would probably be pretty good. Maybe he'd get some Fire
Emblem support for people confusing him with Eliwood or something.
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| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 8:24:00 PM | message detail |
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Tron Bonne would be stronger than the aforementioned >_> --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| ShadowOwns | Posted 9/9/2006 8:24:22 PM | message detail |
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but i always found it dumb when people who NEVER post in here
(especially people who rarely if ever even post on this board) decide
to sign up for this. Although im not signed up for the guru thing, would i just be considered a lurcher or something because ive been around for every contest but have just decided not to post in the stats topic. --- Oil fan til the death. |
| Chinballz | Posted 9/9/2006 8:45:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty much set except for the Kirby/Luigi/Zero pack, and
Ganon/Vincent. What's the consensus on those? X Stats say Vincent over
Ganon and Kirby over Zero over Luigi, but I don't trust those. --- And that's The Word. |
| LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/9/2006 8:58:03 PM | message detail |
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I've got Zero > Kirby > Luigi, but at first it was Kirby Luigi > Zero. --- ¤§¤º¿ú |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/9/2006 9:11:51 PM | message detail |
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Am I the only one a little worried about Terra/Kerrigan? I know that Kerrigan's ranking was pretty sucky last year, but I still think something fishy happened in Vincent and Tifa's first matches. I just don't see why Vyse would just randomly drop that much out of nowhere. And if Vincent overperformed on Kerrigan by the same percentage, that might put her in striking distance of Terra. Although, if that was accurate it would bode well for people hypothesizing that Crono will just randomly drop one of these days. --- Z1mZum totally owned me in the July 2006 Guru Contest The Funky Chickens in Trivia XVIII |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/9/2006 9:12:03 PM | message detail |
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Eheheh. Snake > Crono > (someone else) > Sora > Sonic. --- "Who knew that head wounds bled so much?" ~ Kieran, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| Who Cares? | Posted 9/9/2006 9:13:10 PM | message detail |
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o_0 at Snake leading the poll --- Chun-Li's Road to the Female Final Four: vs Kasumi (Septemeber 26th) |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/9/2006 9:15:31 PM | message detail |
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Here's some Guru Stats from the first page (36 Brackets) Kairi - 26 Claire - 10 The Boss - 20 Celes - 16 Gordon Freeman - 24 Phoenix Wright - 12 Ganondorf - 23 Vincent - 13 Zero - 22 Luigi - 14 Peach - 30 Jill - 5 Shenna - 1 Yoshi - 20 Dante - 16 Kirby - 17 Zero - 15 Luigi - 4 Crono - 25 Sonic - 5 Mega Man - 5 Ganondorf - 1 Samus - 26 Crono - 7 Mega Man - 2 Sonic - 1 --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Chinballz | Posted 9/9/2006 9:25:59 PM | message detail |
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I just thought of something. What if Kerrigan gets her Brood War front cover pic, and Terra gets Amano artwork? --- And that's The Word. |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 9/9/2006 9:31:09 PM | message detail |
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Sora > Mega Man, baby! --- caps |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/9/2006 9:31:11 PM | message detail |
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I respect the majority of those that picked WC over GTA about as
much as I respect the majority that picked Master Hand over Kuja.
Instead of being right that your pick would show surprising or
unprecedented strength, both entries ended up being fodder and you
happened to pick the slightly less pathetic entrant. This is from the last topic, but I just have to defend Master Hand here. His run was just hysterically amusing; WC barely surviving with rallying votes is nowhere near as cool as everyone's favorite glove (sorry glover.) Most people didn't seem to want warcraft to win, and when it did, it wasn't funny or cool, but just more starcraft related irritation. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| Super Luigi | Posted 9/9/2006 9:31:56 PM | message detail |
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omg snakes gunna win da whole thing!!! <_< --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/9/2006 9:33:37 PM | message detail |
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I think a potentially strong new entrant might be Banjo of Banjo
Kazooie fame. It's a stretch, but if he gets in the next melee or if
diddy kong racing is a runaway hit on the ds again...eh, just some
thoughts. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/9/2006 9:35:43 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't have any faith in him being "strong." --- She comes dressed for war, and her wrath is terrible. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/9/2006 9:44:09 PM | message detail |
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I should have included strongest new entrant with that. In new entrant related whining, C. Falcon has to face Crono first round; where's the fun in that? I'm hoping for a solid performance from Falcon, above what people expect from him. Placed elsewhere, Falcon might have been interesting. |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/9/2006 10:06:04 PM | message detail |
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Against Gordon, for example. But then people would've whined because Phoenix would've faced Crono in the first round and "might have been interesting" somewhere else in the bracket. --- If aquarium gravel is so bad for you, how come it tastes so good? -Ralph Wiggum |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/9/2006 10:08:40 PM | message detail |
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Akuma would beat every new entrant this year. If he was in Sub-Zero's position, I would take him over Chief. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/9/2006 10:20:09 PM | message detail |
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Except Phoenix is a board creation and not much more. I don't think I
need to actually check anything to be absolutely certain that Banjo
Kazooie, and it's sequel, and perhaps even it's gba game by itself,
outsold Phoenix Wright. Banjo-Kazooie (3.65 million Banjo-Tooie (1.50 million) Blargh, I'm too tired, actually, to defend Banjo. I'd say he takes Phoenix, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. Phoenix, and I"ll admit he has an outside shot at winning, is definitely the Mario Kart of this contest. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/9/2006 10:22:37 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix would be closer to the Kerrigan of this contest. Banjo would thrash him. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=2916&diff=4 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/9/2006 10:42:02 PM | message detail |
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I'd have to agree with Akuma being the strongest non-FF7 character to
not have been in a contest. We really should start a rally for him. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/9/2006 10:43:38 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix Wright is what the ToS characters were to the character battle
last year. A board creation that many people overestimated due to their
delusion. Except there is no strange Mithos performance that would even indicate any sort of strength for Phoenix, making this all the more puzzling. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/9/2006 10:45:02 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix Wright is going to be the Warcraft of this contest. Book it! --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2006 10:50:00 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix Wright is going to be the Tina Armstrong/Max Payne/Sam Fisher of this contest. Book it! TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/9/2006 10:52:32 PM | message detail |
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CLAIRE is going to be the Mario Kart of this contest. I'm seeing Phoenix being the Liquid Snake, unfortunately. >.> --- If the universe implodes, this space belongs to NClark128. If the law wins, I win! September 22nd! Amy Rose > KOS-MOS |
| KrahenProphet | Posted 9/9/2006 11:08:18 PM | message detail |
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eh, we get that anyways. it doesn't really affect my life if this
little side bet is open to everyone, but i always found it dumb when
people who NEVER post in here (especially people who rarely if ever
even post on this board) decide to sign up for this. it was originally
intended to be a sig bet for those of us who invest way too much time
into analyzing this contest and "supposedly" know more than your
average Board 8er. See I enjoy entering the Guru contest because I want to prove I can compete with the people who do analyze this thing twice as much as me. Another thing is that there are most likely a lot of people like me who make 1 post for every 500 posts they read. I've read tons of the contest stats and discussion threads without ever making a post. I respect the majority of those that picked WC over GTA about as much as I respect the majority that picked Master Hand over Kuja. Instead of being right that your pick would show surprising or unprecedented strength, both entries ended up being fodder and you happened to pick the slightly less pathetic entrant. Not sure who originally said that, but with as many people who play World of Warcraft, I'm not really sure why people didn't think Warcraft had a chance. Not to mention GTA never does anything special. --- Official 4th place winner of Summer Contest 2k4 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2006 11:53:08 PM | message detail |
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And I respect the "WHAT THE HELL R U THINKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GTA
IS TEH UBAR POWER HOUSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" people as much as I respect the
Samus > Mario people. Oh, hey, and guess what? There's reason to believe GTA > WC on GameFAQs. From the GotY polls to the Top 100 List to how well GTA:VC did in the Game Contest to how many people don't play any MMO's -- much less WoW, Warcraft's guiding light...then compare how many views and posts the rally-topic on WoW's main forum got when the match was up, and think that Tuesday is the best day for forum activity amongst WoW players, and how much higher of a vote total it had than any other match before it, and how little it won by... ...like KH said, the same logic that led to the *****fest that was Kerrigan > Vincent is the same logic that led to so many people taking WC > GTA...and it's funny, 'cuz even when you DON'T consider their rallying powers, one could still tell that WC had more reason to keep close to GTA than Kerrigan did to keep close to Vincent. However, this was ignored for the most part because Warcraft is Blizzard. It paid off, yes, but it was off of nearly-blind fear of being burnt again like Starcraft and Diablo for many of us. Also, because it's late/I'm tired/I've been drinking, I'm not going to start with you about your lil' Samus/Mario comment right now. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 12:18:35 AM | message detail |
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Not sure who originally said that, but with as many people who play
World of Warcraft, I'm not really sure why people didn't think Warcraft
had a chance. Because it's not popular here. That hasn't changed. GTA just got exposed. To put it another way, the next strongest series over WC is Fire Emblem. No, WC's strength gets no respect from me. --- Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 9/10/2006 12:55:17 AM | message detail |
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like KH said, the same logic that led to the *****fest that was Kerrigan > Vincent is the same logic that led to so m Could this even be more untrue? Kerrigan>Vincent was the stupidest bandwagon these topics have ever seen. To say that there wasn't plenty of reasons to expect Warcraft being close to or greater than GTA is ludicrous. To say that "it's Blizzard" was the only logic for Warcraft winning is inexcusable. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 1:01:45 AM | message detail |
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It was the prevailing logic. And for all your huff and puff, cn, I didn't see you there arguing that GTA would bomb to all hell -- and really, that was the reason that WC won. Kerrigan could have won just as easily had Vincent bombed like crazy. Granted, the idea of a FFVII character bombing seems quite ludicrous, but that's not the point. I don't deny that there were people out there who had WC over GTA for sensible reasons that panned out in the end. I DO assert that the vast majority of bracketeers did it because of one thing -- Blizzard. If the WC series had the exact same sales and playership but didn't have that little word behind it you would have never seen that many people backing it. And if you think differently, you're wrong. --- Commit it to memory. |
| _SmurfX_ | Posted 9/10/2006 1:26:28 AM | message detail |
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This pre-poll is churning out shocking results. SSBB looks to have turned Snake from bottom of the noble 9 to the top. And KH2 could very well make Sora the boy to break the noble 9. Mega Man needs to be seriously worried. I'm honestly shocked that Sonic who is a full tier ahead of Snake is getting tripled by him here. This has to SSBB. I was expecting Crono to blow everyone away here. o_0 --- Caution ladies and gentlemen. We are now entering a Smurf topic. Proceed at your own risk. - wavedash |
| creativename | Posted 9/10/2006 1:32:34 AM | message detail |
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And for all your huff and puff, cn, I didn't see you there arguing
that GTA would bomb to all hell -- and really, that was the reason that
WC won. Simply wrong. They were both about average. GTA flopped, and there was always a good chance it would, but it didn't bomb "to all hell". It really was maybe a few points weaker than anticipated. Kerrigan could have won just as easily had Vincent bombed like crazy. No. I was never fully convinced about Vincent's strength, and thought he was volatile and hard to predict, but his floor was above her ceiling. Granted, the idea of a FFVII character bombing seems quite ludicrous, but that's not the point. Eh? Vincent could've flopped, but that still wouldn't have been enough to lose. If the WC series had the exact same sales and playership but didn't have that little word behind it you would have never seen that many people backing it. And if you think differently, you're wrong. You say this when your own stance is so silly? Why? A comparison of that match to this one doesn't hold up by any stretch. It's totally baseless. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 9/10/2006 1:34:35 AM | message detail |
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This pre-poll is churning out shocking results. The vast majority of people around here would agree that it doesn't mean much. The only thing it might imply is bracket over-favoritism for Snake. Not that Snake boosting enough to win is impossible, just that this poll isn't going to cause too many people to have more faith in it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 9/10/2006 1:35:12 AM | message detail |
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Also Sonic's low percentage is a pretty strong indicator this isn't correlated with strength at all. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 1:45:18 AM | message detail |
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Simply wrong. They were both about average. Average? AVERAGE??? After adjusting Metroid upward, exactly how many series do you expect WC/GTA to take? I'd have maybe a *little* more confidence in WC thanks to so-called 'intangibles', but there's no way I call those things 'average'. No. I was never fully convinced about Vincent's strength, and thought he was volatile and hard to predict, but his floor was above her ceiling. According to *you*. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts I don't hear a ghost of things like, "Kerrigan winning was the stupidest bandwagon in the history of the contest," if the match is, say, Kerrigan v. Cait Sith. And even then... Eh? Vincent could've flopped, but that still wouldn't have been enough to lose. THAT. IS. NOT. THE POINT. The *only* thing that gave the vast amount of Kerrigan supporters confidence was a single word -- Blizzard. Stats, logic, these things didn't mean anything to them. Match rolls around, and, HEY-O, they get burnt. It's the exact same thing with GTA/WC -- sure, there was a solid argument for WC within all that mess, but what do the proponents of "It's Blizzard!" care? They don't get burnt, but that doesn't make them any different. You say this when your own stance is so silly? Why? A comparison of that match to this one doesn't hold up by any stretch. It's totally baseless. If you don't pay attention to the argument, which -- oh, WONDER OF WONDERS -- you're not. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Nai | Posted 9/10/2006 3:10:38 AM | message detail |
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just that this poll isn't going to cause too many people to have more faith in it Well, I actually changed my bracket. I had Crono winning the contest, now I have Samus beating Snake in the final. --- Currently playing: Mario Kart DS [DS] + Tetris DS [DS] |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2006 3:54:45 AM | message detail |
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The only thing that would give me incentive to take Snake any further
than the Elite Eight is if he showed any change from his typically
dismal day vote here (and if you think about it, SSBB will do that when
it's actually released). Night vote Snake is good -- too good, and you especially can't judge right now considering the time of day. Snake's at, what, 34.3%? If he can keep it above 34% by 5 pm, I'll take him over Mega Man for sure. Least I can do for the guy. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Phediuk | Posted 9/10/2006 6:13:04 AM | message detail |
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Snake is the favorite? LOL GAMEFAQS POLLS --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| cyko | Posted 9/10/2006 6:30:09 AM | message detail |
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ok, so it's the last day and i've made up my mind on every match except
one. there are several matches where i'm not 100% sure of the result,
but there is one last match where i have absolutely no idea what will
happen: The Boss vs. Celes i really have no idea who to pick. Terra and Big Boss seemed to be pretty even last year. i so no reason why Celes will perform any differently than Terra. but i still am not convinced of how The boss will stack up against Big Boss. on top of them, i really don't see either character having a distinct match pic advantage - neither of them is all that great looking............ so, yeah. no idea..... --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| capatillistpiglet | Posted 9/10/2006 6:59:26 AM | message detail |
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I finally settled on The Boss after I realised Kefka
was FFVI's strongest character. And we all know how strong Kefka is.
Everyone else from the game is fodder. Add to that, an integral
character in the most recent game of the Metal Gear Solid series and
The Boss is winnar. --- YOUR MOTHER DOESN'T WORK HERE! capatillistpiglet - Lurking on Board 8 since 2003 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2006 7:07:02 AM | message detail |
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Didn't expect Snake to be winning this poll. If he were to win the male
side I can see him outlasting Mario and maybe Sephiroth. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| VectorAgent | Posted 9/10/2006 7:15:19 AM | message detail |
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Everyone else from the game is fodder If everyone means one character named Terra, you're right. --- CHARACTER BATTLE V: Samus Aran > Crono. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/10/2006 7:18:40 AM | message detail |
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If everyone means one character named Terra, you're right. no it means everyone... tho The Boss is probably fodder too. --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| VectorAgent | Posted 9/10/2006 7:19:56 AM | message detail |
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Well may I ask how many characters besides Kefka and Terra have even appeared
in a contest? Yet they're all automatically fodder? Why? Just because
they haven't appeared in a contest? That's like saying that before last
year, Vincent was fodder. --- CHARACTER BATTLE V: Samus Aran > Crono. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/10/2006 7:21:45 AM | message detail |
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Well may I ask how many characters besides Kefka and Terra have even
appeared in a contest? Yet they're all automatically fodder? Why? Just
because they haven't appeared in a contest? That's like saying that
before last year, Vincent was fodder. Terra and Kefka are pretty weak and there is no reason for anyone in the game to be stronger than kefka. Thats like saying even tho Ness is so weak Paula could easily be a mid carder. It just doesn't make sense. --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| VectorAgent | Posted 9/10/2006 7:22:41 AM | message detail |
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Eh... Well I think the Ness/Paula analogy is skew, but I get your point. --- CHARACTER BATTLE V: Samus Aran > Crono. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/10/2006 7:25:10 AM | message detail |
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I still think Celes can take The Boss. Neither of them will be very
strong, and exactly how weak they will be is totally unknown. I'm still
undecided on that match, but I have the Boss for now. Might change
today. --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/10/2006 7:28:21 AM | message detail |
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From Phediuk Posted 9/10/2006 9:13:04 AM #089 Snake is the favorite? LOL GAMEFAQS POLLS Seriously. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, Castlevania: LoI |
| Aprosenf | Posted 9/10/2006 7:28:50 AM | message detail |
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Poll 847 (03/31/2002) Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VI character? 2300 7.95% Celes 1433 4.96% Cyan 2226 7.7% Edgar 409 1.41% Gau 651 2.25% Gogo 3823 13.22% Locke 3198 11.06% Mog 300 1.04% Relm 4351 15.05% Sabin 1150 3.98% Setzer 5983 20.69% Shadow 177 0.61% Strago 2543 8.79% Terra 374 1.29% Umaro Shadow, Sabin, and Locke, and maybe even Mog have the potential to be significantly stronger than Terra. They wouldn't be powerhouses by any means, but they could beat most fodder. Of course, old polls, especially ones with many choices and low votals, aren't very reliable, but 20.69% versus 8.79% is a huge difference. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
