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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 355

therealmnm | Posted 9/7/2006 5:45:33 PM | message detail
Auron crushed Scorpion even worse (granted, he dropped after that) and pretty much only managed 46% against Ganondorf. Which through Diablo, would only get 45% on Sonic.

Which is at least what I'd expect out of Zero. That has him beating Tifa...
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 5:46:33 PM | message detail
What is this topic made of these days, iridium? Seriously, this is killing me reading this!

(That may be too much of a thinker)
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/7/2006 5:47:35 PM | message detail
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/7/2006 5:48:12 PM | message detail
What is this topic made of these days

Serious business.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 5:51:35 PM | message detail
17 Dante 29.99% 32.73% Devil 1 3
18 Knuckles 29.77% 32.49% Devil 6 4
19 Zero 29.41% 32.09% Mushroom 3 2
20 Magus 29.26% 31.93% Devil 3 5
21 Luigi 28.70% 31.32% Chaos 2 3
22 Auron 28.30% 30.88% Zebes 2 3
23 Master Chief 28.29% 30.87% Flood 1 2

Now, what's your argument for the X-Stats being horrendously wrong enough to drop Luigi from 21st to the midcard/fodder level (let's say that starts at Hayabusa, so 37th total), and around 8 points on BL.


39 Vyse 17.92% 19.21% Midgar 8 11
40 Jak 17.20% 18.45% Midgar 11 12
41 Luigi 16.62% 17.83% Hyrule 4 7
42 Max Payne 16.55% 17.75% 20XX 12 12
43 Conker 16.37% 17.55% Hyrule 14 8

Luigi was right around Vyse and Conker, his fellow losers, in 2k4. Nothing's gonna convince me he jumped 20 spots in 2k5.

Granted, that was Sonic's worst year.

And that affects him relative to Aeris...how?

Not so sure about that just yet. At least not by THAT much if she is stronger.

You're not sure that Zero will double Luigi either. Excuse me while I lol.

2004 was Snake's worst year and that picture could have had an effect, but nonetheless, it IS 2004..

And? People don't suddenly have massive changes from year to year. Every time we've thought so, mitigating circumstances have been discovered. Snake was as strong as ever in 2k4, he just had a few odd matches.

Auron crushed Scorpion even worse (granted, he dropped after that) and pretty much only managed 46% against Ganondorf. Which through Diablo, would only get 45% on Sonic.

And Zero got better than 45% on Sonic, proof that your silly "extrapolation" is completely wrong.

Oh, and it's pretty clear that Scorpion had a fruity half-division, come on.

Wow, resorting to sexual preference insults. How mature.

Maybe, just maybe Luigi gained last year, and was possibly underrated for a while.

Maybe, just maybe, Magus actually did beat Link in 2k3, and the Patriots erased all our memories to make us think he didn't.

And what's wrong with Squall? I'd easily take him over Zero.

He did worse against Snake than Sora did. And you think he can beat Zero? You must be joking.

Um, Nintendo boost?

Um, yes? And? What about it?

Zero couldn't double Ryu Hayabusa, who beat Jill by 27 votes, who was projected to barely beat Luigi in 2003.

There's a big difference between Ninjabusa and Arabusa. Prince of Busa is even worse.

If the Nintendo boost has affected Luigi at all

Which it didn't.

Zero won't be doubling him.

Which he will.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/7/2006 5:53:56 PM | message detail
... What in the world is going on in here?

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 5:55:31 PM | message detail
I'm totally owning some lamers who think Luigi's not fodder.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 5:55:39 PM | message detail
Luigi was right around Vyse and Conker, his fellow losers, in 2k4. Nothing's gonna convince me he jumped 20 spots in 2k5.

I'm starting to think you're just goofing off with me. Here's obvious proof that his 2k4 stats are off.


30 Luigi 22.96% 24.62% Hyrule 4 9 23.83%
31 KOS-MOS 22.60% 24.24% Chaos 8 6 23.46%

Let's see how that turned out in 2k5.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2093

A 66/34 outright thrashing.
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 5:57:22 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think you're just goofing off with me

*bangs head upon desk*
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 9/7/2006 5:58:14 PM | message detail
Well... Luigi is fodder by Nintendo standards, but I imagine he's several tiers above characters like Vyse or Laharl, who pretty much get ASSOSCIATED with the word "fodder" around here.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:01:02 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think you're just goofing off with me. Here's obvious proof that his 2k4 stats are off.


30 Luigi 22.96% 24.62% Hyrule 4 9 23.83%
31 KOS-MOS 22.60% 24.24% Chaos 8 6 23.46%

Let's see how that turned out in 2k5.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2093

A 66/34 outright thrashing.


KOS-MOS clearly overperformed in 2k3. Just look at the massive drop Crash took next year, despite facing a vastly overrated Master Chief. And considering Ryu's massive 2k5 drop, it's clear that KOS was overrated in 2k4 as well. Doubling fodder is hardly an impressive feat; even Ryo Hazuki got a doubling once.

Well... Luigi is fodder by Nintendo standards, but I imagine he's several tiers above characters like Vyse or Laharl, who pretty much get ASSOSCIATED with the word "fodder" around here.

I didn't say Luigi was at the bottom, like those two. He's just close to it.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:01:29 PM | message detail
*bangs head upon desk*

I guess my class gave me "Most gullible" award for a reason. >_>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:01:30 PM | message detail
And that affects him relative to Aeris...how?

It doesn't, I'm just saying Zero would get less this year.

You're not sure that Zero will double Luigi either. Excuse me while I lol.

Your logic in using SFF stats is just as amusing.


And? People don't suddenly have massive changes from year to year. Every time we've thought so, mitigating circumstances have been discovered. Snake was as strong as ever in 2k4, he just had a few odd matches.

Struggling with Frog is strong as ever? You'd put Zero up with Snake now as well?

And Zero got better than 45% on Sonic, proof that your silly "extrapolation" is completely wrong.

Well, thank you Captain Obvious. Zero's only faced Sonic once in 2003; I was talking about PRESENTLY.

Wow, resorting to sexual preference insults. How mature.

He did worse against Snake than Sora did. And you think he can beat Zero? You must be joking.

I officially give up at this point. No point in arguing anyone who can't see anomolies/SFF matches.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/7/2006 6:02:14 PM | message detail
I'm totally owning some lamers who think Luigi's not fodder.

Really?

Tifa Lockheart 53.36% 54588
Luigi 46.64% 47705
TOTAL VOTES 102293

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2111


Sonic the Hedgehog 56.4% 59703
Tifa Lockheart 43.6% 46155
TOTAL VOTES 105858

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2120


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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:02:40 PM | message detail
Oh, and nevermind that 'sexual prefence' or whatever that is. No idea how that got there.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 6:03:21 PM | message detail
Why are you calling Solid/Squall an anamoly? Please, just...keep arguing -- I gotta see where you take this.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:03:23 PM | message detail
Duh HM, Sonic and Tifa are totally midcarders didn't you know? I can't believe Luigi lost to Tifa, what fodder. >_>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:03:50 PM | message detail
I guess he thinks breaking 40% on Sonic is fodder.

</Futurama> Great news, everyone! 2/3 of last year's contest are now fodder!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:05:02 PM | message detail
Why are you calling Solid/Squall an anamoly?

... Bah, I can't spell that word. <_<

anomaly*


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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 6:09:14 PM | message detail
Actually, I misspelled it, heh. Why are you calling Solid/Squall an anomaly though? You're dismissing his rough-yet-sound argument because of THAT?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:09:27 PM | message detail
It doesn't, I'm just saying Zero would get less this year.

Less on Aeris? Why?

Your logic in using SFF stats is just as amusing.

Hey, it was your idea to use the stats. I already know they're broken, that's why I don't like to use them.

Struggling with Frog is strong as ever? You'd put Zero up with Snake now as well?

...Zero would beat Snake. That's always been obvious. And do you really think that we saw Snake's true strength in the match against Frog?

Well, thank you Captain Obvious. Zero's only faced Sonic once in 2003; I was talking about PRESENTLY.

Presently, Zero would do just as well.

I officially give up at this point. No point in arguing anyone who can't see anomolies/SFF matches.

I know that Sora and Squall were both SFF'd. But since it's two SFF matches, they can be compared perfectly.

Oh, and nevermind that 'sexual prefence' or whatever that is. No idea how that got there.

You argued that Scorpion only beat his opponents because they were "fruity". I didn't think the stats topic could get any worse than racism, but now...

Tifa Lockheart 53.36% 54588
Luigi 46.64% 47705
TOTAL VOTES 102293

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2111


Sonic the Hedgehog 56.4% 59703
Tifa Lockheart 43.6% 46155
TOTAL VOTES 105858


Thanks for that little bit of evidence on Zero > Aeris >>> Tifa. I'm sure Sonic underperformed against Tifa though, since he had a 3D picture of himself, and everyone knows that 2D Sonic > 3D Sonic. Luigi's still fodder.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:11:06 PM | message detail
I guess he thinks breaking 40% on Sonic is fodder.

</Futurama> Great news, everyone! 2/3 of last year's contest are now fodder!


I told you to take off your x-stat blinders earlier. I see you still haven't learned your lesson. Luigi never broke 40% on Sonic.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:12:32 PM | message detail
Actually, I misspelled it, heh. Why are you calling Solid/Squall an anomaly though? You're dismissing his rough-yet-sound argument because of THAT?

Well, I didn't directly call it an anomaly. I refer it as SFF or some other factor, but now I just realized after some thinking that his posts aren't serious, anyway. I'm going to stop wasting post-space.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:13:28 PM | message detail
I told you to take off your x-stat blinders earlier. I see you still haven't learned your lesson. Luigi never broke 40% on Sonic.

Take a statistics class or something.

Tifa Lockheart 53.36% 54588
Luigi 46.64% 47705
TOTAL VOTES 102293

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2111


Sonic the Hedgehog 56.4% 59703
Tifa Lockheart 43.6% 46155
TOTAL VOTES 105858

If you get 46.64 on a character that got 43.6 on another character, it's pretty clear that you will get around 40% on that character, barring any anamalies.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/7/2006 6:16:35 PM | message detail
Mac sure is having fun with this topic...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:17:03 PM | message detail
If you get 46.64 on a character that got 43.6 on another character, it's pretty clear that you will get around 40% on that character, barring any anamalies.

That's what people who have Luigi over Zero say, and we all know how good they are with "statistics".
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2006 6:17:15 PM | message detail
I didn't realize we had stats topic trolls.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:20:01 PM | message detail
I didn't realize we had stats topic trolls.

MarioSuperstar is known to be a troll on almost every board on GameFAQs. It was a sad day for CS&D when he first entered the topic.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/7/2006 6:20:14 PM | message detail
We've always had them. They just come in waves. I'm surprised people are actually amusing him with this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/7/2006 6:22:10 PM | message detail
I can't stop laughing from the last few posts.

And...

Zero (2003c) VS Luigi (2004c raw)

Zero has a strength of 33.28.
Luigi has a strength of 17.83.

Zero wins with 73.21% of the vote!
A win of 43,502 with 93,705 total votes cast.
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:24:31 PM | message detail
I guess my class gave me "Most gullible" award for a reason. >_>

*time passes*

Take a statistics class or something. *insert ranting and %age hurling here*

Wait... wait... let me get this straight. You realize he's messing with you now, but you're still keeping this up?

Whatever, have fun!! *throws hands up in disgust*
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:26:21 PM | message detail
Wait... wait... let me get this straight. You realize he's messing with you now, but you're still keeping this up?

Whatever, have fun!! *throws hands up in disgust*


lol, I'm bored, I really don't care if he's serious or not. Miami looks like ****, so the football game is getting pretty boring, so I don't have much else to do.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 6:35:56 PM | message detail
Yeah, and I'm done with the joke now that I have Spanish to do.

'Twas fun though!
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:36:52 PM | message detail
Geez Lopen, why do you have to be so serious all the time? You always ruin everyone's fun. :(
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 6:37:27 PM | message detail
You guys are so hurtful. :(
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 6:39:20 PM | message detail
It's all in good fun. =P
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It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Heroic_Servbot | Posted 9/7/2006 6:41:18 PM | message detail
Until somebody loses an eye. 0_*
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:45:08 PM | message detail
Psh. I've had it with these posers of the stats topics of today! If you're gonna argue outlandish things, you've gotta do it with heart!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:47:41 PM | message detail
Psh! I'd rather argue with FIRE!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 6:52:56 PM | message detail
...Zero would beat Snake

Oh no, the steroids will wear out by then.
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 6:53:32 PM | message detail
Captain Planet?

You didn't just do that... tell me, you did not... just... do that!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 6:54:19 PM | message detail
*just did that*
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 7:01:59 PM | message detail
I'm so mad! When I go for "ridiculous claims" lately, I scarcely get anything beyond "lol Lopen is dum" or "ya maybe".

Sheena > Jill Valentine & Peach. Riku > Yoshi! Master Chief > Auron! Dante > Snake!? Sonic > Crono!?! These are all gold, people! Discuss their chances! Go!

(I only have two out of five of those in my bracket, guess which ones! Actually, you don't have to... it's just a good way to finish up that statement)
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 7:03:09 PM | message detail
Lopens bracket is so screwed

I'm gonna say you have Riku over Yoshi and Sonic over Crono
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2006 7:04:36 PM | message detail
Sheena > Jill Valentine & Peach.

I like the way you think, Lopen!
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/7/2006 7:12:13 PM | message detail
Sonic > Crono!?!
Fine.

Dante > Snake!?
No way. -1% chance that Dante wins!

Master Chief > Auron!
More like Auron > Crono, m i right? =P

Riku > Yoshi
Its about as bad of an upset as Ocelot/Pac-Man, if not a bit worse, but I'll just say it's possible.

Sheena > Jill Valentine & Peach
Lesse...Ryu H = 37% on Zero. Jill = Ryu in 2K4. Lloyd = 27% on Zero. Whatever. Slightly possible, I guess. o_O

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 7:14:45 PM | message detail
"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."


Thats not by chance a Super Mario RPG quote is it? If so...badass.
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Lopen | Posted 9/7/2006 7:16:42 PM | message detail
Excellent... sew enough seeds and you're bound to get something!

You can't take Jill's 50% on Arabusa as equal to getting 50% on his 2k5 self! Ninja Hayabusa 60-40s Arabusa, I say. Yeah, the picture means that much! And Jill has been plummeting since 2k2! Will she do so again? I think so.

And the two I have are Sonic/Crono and Sheena > Jill & Peach... sorry, I know more of you wanted to guess. I'm considering them all, mind you!
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Phediuk | Posted 9/7/2006 7:19:29 PM | message detail
Not sure if Lopen's post is serious or not, but eh.

Sheena > Jill Valentine & Peach.

XD

Kratos is approximately Ness' strength. Kratos is much more prominent in the storyline of ToS than Sheena, and is more popular among the ToS fanbase. Jill Valentine would already, like, double Ness. Not happening.

Riku > Yoshi!

I considered this for a few seconds, but then realized how I had to remind myself who Riku was every time I saw his name. To me, he's just that guy with silver hair who you meet sometimes. Advantage: Yoshi.

Master Chief > Auron!

After Halo's disappointment in the series contest? No way, Jose. The Halo 2 hype has long worn off, while FFX remains extremely popular on the site. BTW: SquareFAQs, RPGFAQs. kthx.

Dante > Snake!?

X. D.

DMC3: Special Edition vs. MGS3: Subsistence. Hmm.

Top 100: Metal Gear Solid #8, Devil May Cry...well, a lot lower.

Series contest: Sonic gets over 70% on DMC. Metal Gear would likely beat Sonic.

And the X-stats. Oh, the X-stats.

Sonic > Crono!?!

Possible.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/7/2006 7:19:33 PM | message detail
Geez, how am I in the Top 10 of the Gurus?
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