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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 355

greatone10 | Posted 9/6/2006 9:06:47 PM | message detail
the voice in my head screams out "WHO THE **** IS TINA AMRSTRONG!?!?!?"

And when I hear that, the voice in my head screams out "THAT WAS FOUR ****ING YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN YOU COULD PLAY COUNTER-STRIKE AND NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL HALF-LIFE IS!"
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Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/6/2006 9:20:39 PM | message detail
Still, if not for the Board 8 fad, I would have no clue who Gordon Freeman was (granted the same can be said for Phoenix). I'm torn 50/50 on this match, but it shouldn't matter anyways since it's just 1 point.


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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
Heroic Mario | Posted 9/7/2006 12:16:15 AM | message detail
I'm not sure why people retreat back to Gordon's match with Tina Armstrong in 2002 like it has any relevance.

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AUGHazoid | Posted 9/7/2006 3:41:17 AM | message detail
HEY HM, GANON IS LIKE 13% ON BL TAKING HIM OVER SONIC WTF SERIOUSLY!?!?!?

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/7/2006 3:44:37 AM | message detail
I'm surprised that HM isn't alone to have Ganondorf winning the male bracket.
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Supporter of Daisy.
ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/7/2006 3:46:11 AM | message detail
I think it's just him, me and Mac.
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Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids.
cyko | Posted 9/7/2006 4:10:30 AM | message detail
i'm actually a little surprised that i'm the only one here taking Vincent over Sonic. >_>

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!!
HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 4:13:38 AM | message detail
I remember HM saying last year that Vincent would be alongside Mario now that FF:AC and DoC are released.....
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Rhyhorn | Posted 9/7/2006 7:07:26 AM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Hairy Balls
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95 - FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102 - SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2
116 - Read_Only_Thx
117 - KleenexTissue50
118 - daverath
119 - Mithrandir1331
120 - ScorpionX3
121 - perdevious
122 - ExquisiteSamurai
123 - Buzzup
124 - Jmast7
125 - GrapefruitKing
126 - cavedog0/ThatsRidiculous
127 - andaca
128 - Sess
129 - Giggsalot
130 - Consolefreak
131 - Tsunami70
132 - Xuxon
133 - MasterMage119
134 - ObscureMammoth
135 - Brett with Atreyu
136 - MarkSmith
137 - ChidoriNoJutsu
138 - ZoneOftheEnders
139 - Cokes
140 - DaruniaTheGoron
141 - MoogleKupo141 Again
142 - RPGGamer0
143 - Mister Mario
144 - Ringworm
145 - Sir Chris
146 - AlecTrevelyan006
147 - WiggumFan267
148 - th3l3fty
149 - Ayvuir
150 - Pats D
151 - _Lagoona_
152 - KrahenProphet
153 - chocoboslayer
154 - hacknslash001
155 - raytan7585
156 - MetaRidleyX
157 - The Raven 2
158 - LinkLegend27
159 - capatillistpiglet
160 - Tequilla Gundam
161 - OmegaRagnarok
162 - Rhyhorn
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Kaxon | Posted 9/7/2006 8:27:53 AM | message detail
I agree with those who say we should get this guru crap the hell out of these topics.

Agreed.

Then the guru would be the bop that keep tracks of each user's bracket and have a sig bet.

...whereas now it's a bop that keeps track of each user's bracket, has a sig bet, and spams the stats topic.
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Round 1: Sonic
Chamek | Posted 9/7/2006 8:42:27 AM | message detail
For now I have G-dorf taking the male bracket as well (lololol im not important i nvr post in these topics any way).

Though, I've switched from Mega Man (my initial reaction), to Snake (after thinking about it for awhile), to G-dorf (after wanting to go for an intriguing upset), so it could change again.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 10:12:24 AM | message detail
I remember HM saying last year that Vincent would be alongside Mario now that FF:AC and DoC are released.....

That was before Mario boosted, and when it was thought that DoC would be the next DMC. Things change.

I'm surprised that HM isn't alone to have Ganondorf winning the male bracket.

In the BOP, 6 people have him over Sonic, with 3 continuing on to have him take the male bracket. I'm in the BOP, not sure about HM and EC. 5 have Vincent over Sonic, and 1 has Vincent over Crono, but nobody has Vincent winning the male bracket.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
H__RR____H | Posted 9/7/2006 10:34:35 AM | message detail
Just out of curiousity, when was the last news/update on SSBB?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2006 10:38:39 AM | message detail
I haven't heard anything about Brawl since E3. Nintendo is probably pushing it to the side to focus attention on their launch titles for now.


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lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
ShadowOwns | Posted 9/7/2006 11:17:28 AM | message detail
The last thing that has been heard about ssbb was that sonic is the most wanted 3rd party character.
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Oil fan til the death.
ShadowOwns | Posted 9/7/2006 11:18:50 AM | message detail
In the BOP, 6 people have him over Sonic, with 3 continuing on to have him take the male bracket. I'm in the BOP, not sure about HM and EC. 5 have Vincent over Sonic, and 1 has Vincent over Crono, but nobody has Vincent winning the male bracket.

That makes no logical sence. If someone has vince beating crono why would they not have him take the male bracket too? *rolls eyes*
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Oil fan til the death.
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 11:51:21 AM | message detail
Yep. The rest of the stats topic realizes that Luigi is fodder of the worst sort.

lol wut?

Seriously, were you one of those people that had KOS-MOS>Luigi or something?

According to the (lol) X-stats of last year, Luigi only needs to make up around .78% on BL to get ahead of Zero. And you've said it yourself, "Not to mention Mario Kart DS and Mario & Luigi: Partners and Time, which should be even better for the Mario crew."

So, unless you think that Zero is somehow underrated in the X-Stats, or Luigi is somehow overrated, or you don't think that NSMB+MKDS+M&L:PiT adds up to .7%, or you think that Zero will also get a large boost then you really have no case for calling Luigi "fodder".
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Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum!
HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 12:57:20 PM | message detail
There's NO case for calling Luigi fodder, unless fodder is somebody who hasn't ever gotten to the Sweet Sixteen before...which would be one stupid-ass definition.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/7/2006 1:14:42 PM | message detail
Zero/Luigi didn't feel like a very hard choice for me to make. Luigi has never really impressed me in any match, and his loss to Yoshi hasn't travelled far from my mind. I doubt he's done enough to overcome that, and while it's commonplace to struggle with Yoshi/Dante, taking Zero over either of those two just isn't as hard. I guess it's more gut instinct that anything else, but I would be pretty surprised if Luigi beat Zero, or even made it a 50-50 match.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 1:17:02 PM | message detail
I think Luigi losing to Yoshi isn't as bad as people put it these days. The guy still gave Tifa a good match. Luigi's value last year surprised all of us and it could very well gain again.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/7/2006 2:42:02 PM | message detail
I think Luigi losing to Yoshi isn't as bad as people put it these days. The guy still gave Tifa a good match. Luigi's value last year surprised all of us and it could very well gain again.

Nah, we haven't really had a good reading on Luigi before last year. Luigi's performance on Tifa is what most people would expect out of Luigi. The shocker was him doing worse than Jill Valentine against Squall. That made him look really pathetic, especially against the high expectations he had in 2k3. People just fed off of that and saw him as a weakling. I even remember during the Villains contest that HM expected Ridley to match him in strength.

But I still don't see him matching the things that Zero has done in this contest. Zero has to have legitimately dropped in popularity for Luigi to have a chance.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/7/2006 2:45:02 PM | message detail
Post more information about the Guru Contest here? Well, if you insist!

In prep for the upcoming season, I've tallied the latest

All-Time Guru Rankings!

The full listing in all its glory can be viewed here: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/AllTimeGuruRanks.xls

First some notes:

- did you know that over 200 B8ers have competed in the Guru Contest? we're now up to 205 total, a number that is sure to explode even higher come next week

- despite some close calls, we lost only 1 True Guru to the BSE: Ringworm, formerly ranked 3rd overall. the other 15 who have participated in every Contest since Spring '04 all returned this July: Ulti, KM, Chris, Falcon, Chic, Haste, charmander, HM, Ngamer, swirl, red sox, TRE, Z1m, cyko, and Doma

- the True Guru ranks have been infiltrated! despite not having been around for the Games Contest, yoblazer's consistent excellence in every Contest since them has moved him ahead of Doma and within striking distance of other True Gurus like cyko and Z1mZum

- Haste's impressive 77 point, Zelda-backing BSE was good enough to launch him from 11th to 6th on the All Time ranks

- despite not having the guts to back Zelda, Ulti survives a serious scare from the Zelda-picking King Morgoth, maintaining his position as King of the Gurus... by only a single point!

The All-Time Top 50
(1-205 can be seen on the spreadsheet)

1st UltimaterializerX 634
2nd King Morgoth 633
3rd Sir Chris 614
4th FastFalcon 608
5th ChichiriMuyo 604
6th Haste2 594
7th charmander 592
8th Heroic Mario 586
9th Ngamer 585
10th swirldude 584
11th red sox 777 583
12th Team Rocket Elite 565
13th Ringworm 556
14th Z1mZum 534
15th cyko 529
16th yoblazer 506
17th DomaDragoon 505
18th Yesmar 494
19th fett 470
20th tnote 464
21st Mac Arrowny 455
22nd ps2rulezzz 451
23rd Sephirot 450
24th HaRRicH 448
25th MasterMage 444
26th arkenaga 440
27th steve illumina 440
28th Aprosenf 431
29th ExquisiteSamurai 425
30th jonthomson 409
31st Hogasm 408
32nd nifboy 399
33rd Garsha 397
34th Steinershocker 397
35th nh82 383
36th Starion 376
37th Lt. Kettch 376
38th Fantusta 365
39th cavedog 352
40th BeTheMan 351
41st TheRye 342
42nd andaca 339
43rd Tai 333
44th MMXcalibur 331
45th Dilated Chemist 324
46th Bananaquest 321
47th RPGuy 321
48th Mithrandir 313
49th Rufus Shinra 305
50th Shake 304

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/7/2006 2:47:17 PM | message detail
There has to be some kind of law against this....
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 2:48:12 PM | message detail
*Hopes to break the Guru ranks this year >_>*
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I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/7/2006 2:53:04 PM | message detail
- Haste's impressive 77 point, Zelda-backing BSE was good enough to launch him from 11th to 6th on the All Time rank

What was the max score for the BSE?
I remember being 2 points away from the max score. o_o
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/7/2006 2:54:17 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 3:14:41 PM | message detail
I believe if I had entered the Gurus in the Game Contest, I would be right behind Chichiri right now.

Dammit.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 3:23:44 PM | message detail
I do think that Zero dropped somewhat. I have no idea if it relates to his match with Mega Man or anything, but assuming that the division he was in 2004 was considered "underrated" because Mega Man was SFF'd by Link, He was expected to double Ryu Hayabusa and he never even came close. I'm sure Ryu was underrated a bit but perhaps Zero has dropped after 2004.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 3:24:48 PM | message detail
Zero got like damn near 65% on Ryu H if I recall right...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 3:27:33 PM | message detail
I also found it weird that Zero gets around expected if you leave the division as is.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/7/2006 3:35:36 PM | message detail
NPD numbers for August are coming in and Dirge of Cerberus looks to be around 200,000 for the month. Outsold by Madden (of course) and Dead Rising, which sold 337,000.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/7/2006 3:37:48 PM | message detail
Zero got 63.00% on Ryu H.
Sora got 61.72%.

Boosting from KH2, Sora > Zero, whooo!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 3:39:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, but don't forget the possibility of Sora overperforming on Hayabusa.

Though, with KH2, he should probably be at least equal to Zero's 2005 value.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/7/2006 3:39:59 PM | message detail
I'd take Zero over Sora in a close ass match. I'm tellin you, hes gonna take some Muscle Juice >_>
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Tai | Posted 9/7/2006 3:44:32 PM | message detail
43rd Tai 333

I honestly laughed when I saw that.
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Figlar20000 | Posted 9/7/2006 3:46:29 PM | message detail
Sign me up for the Gurus
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/7/2006 5:02:28 PM | message detail
Just copy and paste the list and add your name.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 5:04:31 PM | message detail
lol wut?

Seriously, were you one of those people that had KOS-MOS>Luigi or something?


Two characters have ever lost to Tifa: Luigi and Vyse. It's pretty embarrassing when your only company is Vyse. He was beaten by Squall worse than JILL VALENTINE, and was crushed by Yoshi, an opponent who's defeated "mighty" contenders like Laharl, Pac-Man, and Conker.

Luigi's own victories are pretty pathetic too. KOS-MOS? lol. Pac-Man? lol. Ratchet? Luigi actually made Ratchet look GOOD. Zero's going to double Luigi with ease, and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it. In fact, with SFF, we might even see Zero's first tripling.

According to the (lol) X-stats of last year, Luigi only needs to make up around .78% on BL to get ahead of Zero. And you've said it yourself, "Not to mention Mario Kart DS and Mario & Luigi: Partners and Time, which should be even better for the Mario crew."

Well, Luigi hardly counts for that. PiT actually makes Luigi ever more pathetic, and I thought that was impossible. Thanks to PiT, it's quite likely that we'll see Luigi take the biggest drop of all time.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 5:08:34 PM | message detail
Zero's going to double Luigi with ease

Whoa man, you're going too far. Zero couldn't even double Ryu Hayabus. Luigi will break 40% with ease.

Two characters have ever lost to Tifa: Luigi and Vyse.

Not like it matters. The point is that he'd beat plenty of characters. You can't rank him fodder just because of his bracket placement next to fodder and a near-elite. Sheesh.


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HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 5:10:09 PM | message detail
That goes along nicely with the write-up I have planned for why PoP will take the four-pack.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 5:17:19 PM | message detail
Whoa man, you're going too far. Zero couldn't even double Ryu Hayabus.

Well, duh. It's hard to beat the power of mass transit. You think Luigi would stand a chance against Ryu Hayabus?

Not like it matters. The point is that he'd beat plenty of characters. You can't rank him fodder just because of his bracket placement next to fodder and a near-elite. Sheesh.

Oh, and I suppose that it's just coincidence that he gets placed next to fodder and a "near-elite" every year. Take those x-stat blinders off, sonny.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 5:19:32 PM | message detail
You're going to say Luigi is weak because I'm using x-stats? So what's your definition of logically saying Zero will double him without x-stat reasoning? Just because the only characters he blow out are mid-carders to fodder?
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Big Bob | Posted 9/7/2006 5:21:09 PM | message detail
In no way in hell in Zero doubling Luigi. 54% at the most, and I've taken Luigi in my bracket.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 5:22:36 PM | message detail
Zero's going to double Luigi with ease, and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it. In fact, with SFF, we might even see Zero's first tripling.

ROFL. Okay, account bet right now, me and you. If Zero breaks 66.6% on Luigi you win, if not, I win.
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Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum!
HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2006 5:24:08 PM | message detail
...should the cat be let out of the bag now?

Nah.....
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....
therealmnm | Posted 9/7/2006 5:26:26 PM | message detail
I'm not saying anything. I'm loving hearing about Zero doubling up Luigi! If that were to happen, the main bracket would be so screwed!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/7/2006 5:32:44 PM | message detail
You're going to say Luigi is weak because I'm using x-stats? So what's your definition of logically saying Zero will double him without x-stat reasoning? Just because the only characters he blow out are mid-carders to fodder?

Zero did better against Sonic than Aeris did, and everyone knows that Aeris >>> Tifa. Zero outperformed Snake on Mega Man. Zero crushed Scorpion, the previous year's Elite Eight shocker, despite having a MASSIVE bracket vote against him. And besides, Luigi is a mid-carder to fodder level character, so what does Zero have to worry about?

In no way in hell in Zero doubling Luigi. 54% at the most, and I've taken Luigi in my bracket.

People had Magus over Link too, and we know what ended up happening there. I'd like to see your justification for Luigi doing better on Zero than he did on Squall, of all people.

ROFL. Okay, account bet right now, me and you. If Zero breaks 66.6% on Luigi you win, if not, I win.

Pffft, there's no way I'd want the account of someone with such puny Karma. It'd be like stealing candy from a baby.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/7/2006 5:37:41 PM | message detail
17 Dante 29.99% 32.73% Devil 1 3
18 Knuckles 29.77% 32.49% Devil 6 4
19 Zero 29.41% 32.09% Mushroom 3 2
20 Magus 29.26% 31.93% Devil 3 5
21 Luigi 28.70% 31.32% Chaos 2 3
22 Auron 28.30% 30.88% Zebes 2 3
23 Master Chief 28.29% 30.87% Flood 1 2

Now, what's your argument for the X-Stats being horrendously wrong enough to drop Luigi from 21st to the midcard/fodder level (let's say that starts at Hayabusa, so 37th total), and around 8 points on BL.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2006 5:40:50 PM | message detail
Zero did better against Sonic than Aeris did,

Granted, that was Sonic's worst year.

and everyone knows that Aeris >>> Tifa.

Not so sure about that just yet. At least not by THAT much if she is stronger.

Zero outperformed Snake on Mega Man.

2004 was Snake's worst year and that picture could have had an effect, but nonetheless, it IS 2004..

Zero crushed Scorpion, the previous year's Elite Eight shocker, despite having a MASSIVE bracket vote against him.

Auron crushed Scorpion even worse (granted, he dropped after that) and pretty much only managed 46% against Ganondorf. Which through Diablo, would only get 45% on Sonic.

Oh, and it's pretty clear that Scorpion had a fruity half-division, come on.

And besides, Luigi is a mid-carder to fodder level character, so what does Zero have to worry about?

Luigi is not fodder. Fodder does not get 46% on Tifa.

People had Magus over Link too, and we know what ended up happening there. I'd like to see your justification for Luigi doing better on Zero than he did on Squall, of all people.

Maybe, just maybe Luigi gained last year, and was possibly underrated for a while.

And what's wrong with Squall? I'd easily take him over Zero.

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red sox 777 | Posted 9/7/2006 5:41:27 PM | message detail
People had Magus over Link too, and we know what ended up happening there. I'd like to see your justification for Luigi doing better on Zero than he did on Squall, of all people.

Um, Nintendo boost?

Zero couldn't double Ryu Hayabusa, who beat Jill by 27 votes, who was projected to barely beat Luigi in 2003. If the Nintendo boost has affected Luigi at all, Zero won't be doubling him. Winning, yes, even 60% after SFF, but no doubling.

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