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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 355

longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/4/2006 5:04:20 PM | message detail
Your bankin on Daisy to pull some rSFF for massive damage aren't you
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MarkSmith | Posted 9/4/2006 5:05:00 PM | message detail
Obviously precedent isnt invincble, but you have no argument for anti NN trends.

The weakest members of the NN are Snake and Sonic. Snake is getting MGS4, and SSB, which is a massive boost. Sonic is ps3 boost. Magus was once thought to be the best potential NN buster. Now we know thats not gonna happen. people are hyping ganbon this yeae, and he's gonna flop too.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/4/2006 5:05:04 PM | message detail
She won't need it !!

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/4/2006 5:06:40 PM | message detail
Sonic could totally have a period where he decreases slightly enough to lose to someone like Ganon/Vincent/Zero/Kirby though, considering the PS3 boost wouldn't be anytime during the contest most likely.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/4/2006 5:07:12 PM | message detail
The weakest members of the NN are Snake and Sonic. Snake is getting MGS4, and SSB,

y halo thar 2007. Sorry, but non-existant games aren't going to push Snake anywhere.

Sonic is ps3 boost.

y halo thar 2007. Sorry, but non-existant games aren't going to push Sonic anywhere.

Unless of course Sony is lying to us and is going to attack us for massive damage when they reveal that they were just joking around with their set launch date, and that it's really going to be coming out before October 26th.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/4/2006 5:07:48 PM | message detail
nd to boot, the perso0n you're taking to break the noble nine is someone who got extrapolated alongside Tidus and Magus, last year's 2 biggest flops.

Unlike Magus and Tidus, Ganon has had plenty of reason to increase since 2003 whereas those two have had exactly no reason to do so. Magus may have been overrated for years now, but Ganon is not anywhere near those two anymore. He wouldn't have any problem beating them now.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/4/2006 5:09:08 PM | message detail
Umm, your argument for the break up of the noble 9 is the x-stats?

It's actually a little game called "The Legend of Zelda : Twilight Princess." I hear it's a pretty big game, but that's just what the wind tells me!

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/4/2006 5:09:32 PM | message detail
I'll forever wonder what was Ganny's real value in 2003/2004.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/4/2006 5:10:34 PM | message detail
Sonic is ps3 boost.

Hype for a Sonic game is practically non-existent, so it wouldn't help him based off of that. As for an actual release, Ganon/Sonic would take place on October 26th and the release date of the PS3 is November 17th.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/4/2006 5:10:54 PM | message detail
My argument is Vincent will beat Ganon before the TP boost kicks in and Zero will take some steroids and Hadouken his division.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/4/2006 5:18:30 PM | message detail
If Ganon gets TP, Ganon/Vincent will be closer than Ganon/Sonic. Book it!

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/4/2006 5:19:34 PM | message detail
I have Snake > Megaman, but losing to Crono. Am I nuts? >_>;
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/4/2006 5:20:42 PM | message detail
I have Snake > Megaman, but losing to Crono. Am I nuts? >_>;

No, it just means you're not all that interested in winning.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/4/2006 5:21:27 PM | message detail
ExTha, thats actually a decent upset pick that not many people would wager on.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/4/2006 5:26:31 PM | message detail
I haven't looked at x-stats at all this year. Pretty much have just gone with my gut on just about everything... and I feel really good about all of them with the exception of Jill > Peach.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/4/2006 5:33:12 PM | message detail
I have Sonic over Crono and Mega Man, but losing to Samus. This doesn't seem very smart to me...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/4/2006 6:52:04 PM | message detail
Also, I think Nintendo fans are going to have split allegiances here. old school fans prefer CT over Super Metroid.

Say what? CT SNES isn't what gives CT most of its strength. That comes from mass emulation and FFC.

Magus's descent was a surprise, but a noble niner falling would be way way more shocking.

No, it wouldn't. There are far more people predicting Ganon > Sonic than Knux > Magus.

Obviously precedent isnt invincble, but you have no argument for anti NN trends.

The weakest members of the NN are Snake and Sonic. Snake is getting MGS4, and SSB, which is a massive boost. Sonic is ps3 boost. Magus was once thought to be the best potential NN buster. Now we know thats not gonna happen. people are hyping ganbon this yeae, and he's gonna flop too.


So then, you think that if someone like Zero/Vincent/Bowser/Ganon was in Frog's position in 2k4, they still couldn't have beaten Snake?

My argument is Vincent will beat Ganon before the TP boost kicks in and Zero will take some steroids and Hadouken his division.

Nothing wrong with that. Vincent has a better chance of beating Ganon than anyone else, except maybe Crono.

Well, except for Zero > Sonic. The strongest Zero couldn't beat the weakest Sonic in 2k3...

I have Sonic over Crono and Mega Man, but losing to Samus. This doesn't seem very smart to me...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2125
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1777

It doesn't look stupid to me...
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MarkSmith | Posted 9/4/2006 7:37:12 PM | message detail
Umm, Frog barely beat Liquid Snake. How in the hell could he have beaten Sold Snake?

And just because people are predicting ganon>sonic doesnt mean anything. Knux>magus wasnt nearly the upset Ganon>Sonic would be.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/4/2006 7:46:33 PM | message detail
Ganon > Sonic would be the new greatest day in GameFAQs history!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/4/2006 7:56:26 PM | message detail
Indeed it would.

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Janus5000 | Posted 9/4/2006 8:05:30 PM | message detail
Link > Ganondorf and Magus > Ganondorf would still be leagues better, even if the match is ridiculously close.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/4/2006 8:19:28 PM | message detail
You know what I just realized? In the female portion of the bracket it's possible for every single higher seed to win. That rather disturbs me.

But, if the higher seed wins in all those matches think how hard they'll fall once we hit Riku/Yoshi!

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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/4/2006 8:25:18 PM | message detail
Umm, Frog barely beat Liquid Snake. How in the hell could he have beaten Sold Snake?

....you have the worst reading comprehension ever. Or you just don't know what's gone on in the past, I'm guessing both. Solid Snake failed to break 52% on Frog of all people in 2K4, MOTHER ****ING FROG. His point was if Zero/Vincent/Bowser/Ganon or somebody else was in Frog's place in 2K4, they could and or would have defeated Solid Snake, completely putting your bs "precedent argument" to shame.
MarkSmith | Posted 9/4/2006 9:40:33 PM | message detail
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/4/2006 9:42:27 PM | message detail
No, Frog was stronger than all of them in 2k4 except maybe Vincent, but we'll never know.

Yep... gotta hate those 7% drops.
MarkSmith | Posted 9/4/2006 9:42:39 PM | message detail
And Bowser did ****ing face snake in 2k5, and he lost even though snake was a sprite. So wtf makes you think he would have done any better a year before?

You all keep betting against the noble nine. It means fewer brackets in my way.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/4/2006 10:29:55 PM | message detail
Umm, Frog barely beat Liquid Snake. How in the hell could he have beaten Sold Snake?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1769

Remember that match? Do you really think the characters I mentioned wouldn't have done better than Frog, of all characters? Hell, Zero even outdid Snake on Mega Man.

No, Frog was stronger than all of them in 2k4 except maybe Vincent, but we'll never know.

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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1775
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1768

The "logic" of NN supporters is really irritating. There are far better arguments for Sonic > Ganon than "lol NN are invincible".

And Bowser did ****ing face snake in 2k5, and he lost even though snake was a sprite. So wtf makes you think he would have done any better a year before?

Snake was stronger in 2k5 than in 2k4, obviously.
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 9/4/2006 10:39:55 PM | message detail
Has anyone else considered the possibility that Samus might not do as well because many voters haven't realized Samus is a female yet? When they think of a female battle, they might think who is the better female rather than who seems cooler.

Not that this would be important enough to sway any matches whatsoever, but if Samus slightly "underperforms" in a few of her matches, that might explain it.

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/5/2006 12:30:10 AM | message detail
Samus is a girl?


DAMMIT!


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WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/5/2006 12:31:15 AM | message detail
Anyway, well, I suppose it's possible but who are we to read the minds of readres anyway. Sounds plausible enough though. =p


Though I doubt it would sway the vote that much.


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TheCruelAngel | Posted 9/5/2006 12:45:57 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright is so going to beat Gordon Freeman! Precedent said so!

Hey, I can only hope. <_<
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 9/5/2006 12:53:00 AM | message detail
Ah, I suppose I should post my picks now for the Guru contest.

Samus Aran
Ada Wong
Rikku
Claire Redfield

Tifa Lockhart
The Boss
Jill Valentine
Princess Peach

Zelda
Terra Branford
KOS-MOS
Aeris Gainsbourough

Yuna
Joanna Dark
Chun Li
Lara Croft

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Solid Snake
Squall Leonhart
Yoshi
Dante

Sora
Gordon Freeman
Ryu (SF)
Mega Man

Sonic
Ganondorf
Kirby
Zero

Crono
Bowser
Auron
Master Chief
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Samus Aran
Rikku

Tifa Lockhart
Princess Peach

Zelda
Aeris Gainsbourough

Yuna
Chun Li

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Solid Snake
Yoshi

Sora
Mega Man

Sonic
Kirby

Crono
Auron

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Samus
Tifa
Zelda
Yuna

Snake
Mega Man
Sonic
Crono

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Samus
Zelda

Mega Man
Crono

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Samus
Crono

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Samus
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Royale

6th- Female Winner/Samus
5th- Male Winner/Crono
4th- Mario
3rd- Sephiroth
2nd- Cloud
1st- Link

TIEBRAKER: 67,267

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/5/2006 9:14:05 AM | message detail
Your bracket = 1 Upset. Last years bracket had 9.

THE MORE YOU KNOW
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/5/2006 9:30:21 AM | message detail
Kairi/Claire is going to be the next match where the stats topic fails, and the casuals sing in harmony. Book it.
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voltch | Posted 9/5/2006 9:36:45 AM | message detail
holy molly.
looking at my bracket over i had mega man losing to ryu!
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/5/2006 10:16:55 AM | message detail
yikes >_>
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/5/2006 11:25:44 AM | message detail
...you don't post your guru picks in here wigs.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/5/2006 2:00:40 PM | message detail
Perfect 500 post.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/5/2006 2:34:47 PM | message detail
Your bracket = 1 Upset. Last years bracket had 9.

It's better to have one smart upset over a series of stupid upsets for no other reason than to be different.

*coughcloudoverlinkcough*

Ahem.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/5/2006 2:38:55 PM | message detail
Kairi sucks.

Oh, it is on.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/5/2006 2:40:16 PM | message detail
I think Ganondorf is a little overrated from last year after seeing everything Magus' 4-pack releated take a hard dive, but then again it would be hard to prove this year.

There is absolutely, positively no reason to believe that Ganon is overrated at all. It's ridiculous to think that Ganon is still attached to the four pack in such a fashion that he deserves to be closer to them. Ganon would kill Magus if they were to face right now.

Ganon has had three years since 2003 to improve himself -- and he has. If anything, Ganon is underrated in those stats. The idea that Samus cannot SFF anything is about as absurd as thinking Mega Man can SFF anything from Nintendo. You're not getting me to buy for a second that Ganon is closer to Magus than the 2005 stats depict. And it's insane to think that he's that far away from Bowser after doing a percent better on him in the villains contest, putting up a comparable performance against Diablo that Sonic did, and putting up 40%+ on Samus -- Sonic managed a whopping 42% in the previous year.

People need to stop acting like Ganon is anywhere near Magus. It's been three years -- let it go.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/5/2006 3:19:24 PM | message detail
I've never even known of an objection post to get modded...

I had one modded when I used it to post a score in an NCAA Games Contest match. Modded for being on topic with a fad! What a crazy world!

Sorry, but non-existant games aren't going to push Sonic anywhere.

Good thing he doesn't need anything to win the male bracket!

Ganon > Sonic would be the new greatest day in GameFAQs history!

Perhaps I'll finally understand how those Luigi fans felt back in 2003.

Oh wait.

Ganon > Sonic would be the new worst day in GameFAQs history, never to be topped by anything! Even worse than Master Hand > Kuja!

FIXED! YAY!

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/5/2006 3:20:22 PM | message detail
Ganon is a betta villain than Sonic is a hero omg lol wtf
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/5/2006 3:52:38 PM | message detail
Ganon is a betta villain than Sonic is a hero omg lol wtf

Sonic is still the better character. Oh no wut now?
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cyko | Posted 9/5/2006 3:54:04 PM | message detail
camping for almost a week near Lake Superior with no electricity makes a man smelly and tired. fortunately, i did have Super Robot Taisen along, which is pretty dang cool. i charged my GBA SP and DS before the trip and brought along my old-fashioned GBA with several batteries. by the time i left, i was down to my last set of AA's. >_>

did see some cool waterfalls and other nifty scenery, though. ^_^

anyways, i've seen quite a bit of talk about the Battle Royale in the last topic, but noone has answered this: is there any guarantee that we will even get match pics for the duration of the Battle Royale? how is Ceej even going to make a match pic that clearly identifies all six characters?

i don't really think it would matter much, but i could see not having a picture affect Crono's performance. Crono is easily the least recognizable member of the Noble Nine (to your average gamer). and he does seem to get at least some portion of his popularity from his look. not having his picture there could hurt him a little bit; enough to knock him out before Samus or at least knock him out before Cloud and Sephiroth despite any FF7 fan-base split between those two.

i almost hope the Battle Royale DOESN't have match pics, just to see if any of those massively popular characters do perform differently without their pictures up.

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red sox 777 | Posted 9/5/2006 4:05:14 PM | message detail
I doubt anyone who wouldn't recognize Crono without a picture would actually vote for him over Clinkeroth, Mario, and Samus if he had a picture.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/5/2006 4:06:31 PM | message detail
Sonic is still the better character.

Hmm. I'm thinking that one is -- yep -- wrong!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/5/2006 4:10:33 PM | message detail
Ganon is a better nothing. Sonic is a better villain than he is!
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therealmnm | Posted 9/5/2006 4:12:07 PM | message detail
I doubt anyone who wouldn't recognize Crono without a picture would actually vote for him over Clinkeroth, Mario, and Samus if he had a picture.

I totally agree. With a poll with so many heavy hitters, being unknown or unrecognizable won't be a factor at all with so many alternatives to vote for anyways.
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