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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 355
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| Phediuk | Posted 9/9/2006 1:33:04 PM | message detail |
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Don't forget about the PC version of RE4, either. >_> It's coming out on the 30th. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2006 2:40:54 PM | message detail |
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I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but does anyone else think
that Zero's strength was so high in the last couple contests because he
had his own series? The Megaman Zero series wasn't extremely popular or
anything, but it did have Zero as the main character for 4 games. And
the year the series ended (last year), Zero had his worst performance
in any contest so far. --- Z1mZum won the Guru Contest. I picked Pokemon over Metroid, GTA over Warcraft, Halo over CV, Street Fighter over RE, and FF over Zelda. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/9/2006 3:37:55 PM | message detail |
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That is rather interesting to think about. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| Kaxon | Posted 9/9/2006 4:13:52 PM | message detail |
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Since I haven't mentioned it yet, the Oracle Challenge for this contest is up: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=30190686 The Oracle Challenge is probably the most skill-testing prediction contest on GameFAQs and also one of the biggest - last time we had 180 different participants, and 71 who came back to make predictions every single day. There's no better way for stats people in this topic to put their knowledge to use... prove your superior predicting abilities against the competition! --- CATS's Road to the Character Battle V Championship Round 1: Sonic |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 4:38:45 PM | message detail |
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I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but does anyone else
think that Zero's strength was so high in the last couple contests
because he had his own series? The Megaman Zero series wasn't extremely
popular or anything, but it did have Zero as the main character for 4
games. And the year the series ended (last year), Zero had his worst
performance in any contest so far.> As big a Zero fan as I am, I haven't really gotten into the MMZ series. But if the Zero series did make up a significant part of his strength, then him being SFF'd by Mario was probably more likely, seeing how the series was exclusive to the Nintendo demographic on the GBA. I have no idea how popular the GBA games were here on GameFAQs. I'm sure they gave him a fair bit of strength though, seeing how the X series hasn't been prominent since the SNES days. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2006 5:12:14 PM | message detail |
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I seriously doubt the MMZ series made up a significant part of his
strength, but it probably gave him that extra push that made him a
serious force. --- Z1mZum won the Guru Contest. I picked Pokemon over Metroid, GTA over Warcraft, Halo over CV, Street Fighter over RE, and FF over Zelda. |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 5:19:19 PM | message detail |
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Someone mentioned the Prince of Persia being as strong as GoW Kratos was. I don't think PoP will be as strong as GoW Kratos. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/9/2006 5:27:05 PM | message detail |
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You know, I still think Phoenix has a legitimate chance at beating Gordon. Stranger things have happened before. In the BSE contest, Ulti, as well as the rest of the analysis crew, had several very-well thought up reasons why GTA would beat Warcraft. Every concievable point to be made for Warcraft was rebutted with ease by them. And we all know what happened there. Of course, if Phoenix wins, it'll be 10000000x the hilarity of GTA/Warcraft. --- If the universe implodes, this space belongs to NClark128. If the law wins, I win! September 22nd! Amy Rose > KOS-MOS |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/9/2006 5:44:45 PM | message detail |
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In the BSE contest, Ulti, as well as the rest of the analysis crew,
had several very-well thought up reasons why GTA would beat Warcraft.
Every concievable point to be made for Warcraft was rebutted with ease
by them. And we all know what happened there. GTA flopped, and Warcraft had OMG ITS TUESDAY!!! factor going for it. A similar thing happening for GF vs. PW would involve a huge Gordon flop, AS WELL AS a surprise Phoenix Wright launch game for the Wii on the day of the match. Excuse me if I'm somewhat sceptical. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 5:55:55 PM | message detail |
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Someone mentioned the Prince of Persia being as strong as GoW Kratos was. I don't think PoP will be as strong as GoW Kratos. I don't see why he wouldn't be stronger. Kratos's one game may have been well received, but Kratos himself isn't named "God of War". Prince of Persia has a similar design to Kratos, has 3 multi-console releases this gen (it even reached out to the Gamecube fanbase) as opposed to Kratos who was exclusive to PS2, and the name "Prince of Persia" also should spark up some memories for people familiar with the old school games. Granted, all this shouldn't make him terribly strong, but I'd take him head to head over Kratos. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2006 5:56:11 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft always had a case for it though, if for no other reason than
its huge online fanbase. You cannot fathom to say the same for PW. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/9/2006 5:56:56 PM | message detail |
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In defense of Kratos, his game went on to sell like mad during the
off-season after it hit $20. It went from selling about 600,000 copies
to over 1.2 million within the past year. --- She comes dressed for war, and her wrath is terrible. |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 9/9/2006 5:59:56 PM | message detail |
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Wow, maybe I'll take Kratos over Ryu, then. --- caps |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2006 6:02:00 PM | message detail |
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PoP may not match what Kratos is at now,
but him getting on the level Kratos was in 2k5 isn't too much of a
stretch...it's just figuring out what that level was in the first place
that's iffy. I'd never expect GoW Kratos to struggle with ToS Kratos, for instance. --- Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 6:02:04 PM | message detail |
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You know, this has been about the least debated contest prediction
period that I've seen. Besides, HM's Ganondorf propoganda, there's been
practically nothing going on in the stats topic. Vincent/Kerrigan by itself seems to have gotten more debate than anything we've seen this contest. Is the contest losing its touch? I can say that I'm not caring nearly as much about this contest as I used to be... --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2006 6:05:36 PM | message detail |
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Meh, the bracket isn't that good, the upsets are few and far
between...but as for YOUR level of interest, I remember you saying the
same thing about the series contest and that ended up being the most
popular contest ever. --- Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2006 6:05:38 PM | message detail |
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From HaRRicH Posted 9/9/2006 8:56:11 PM Warcraft always had a case for it though, if for no other reason than its huge online fanbase. You cannot fathom to say the same for PW. And we all know how you stat-heads treated people that were baking on WoW TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/9/2006 6:07:28 PM | message detail |
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And we all know how you stat-heads treated people that were baking on WoW It at least had 6 million users. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2006 6:08:02 PM | message detail |
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PoP wasn't goin' to touch Kratos anyway. Where Kratos lands this year could be interesting... ...and, when considering the boosts Sora and Auron will be getting, I don't think we'll ever truly know what happened exactly in Sora's four-pack last year. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/9/2006 6:08:52 PM | message detail |
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The fact that there is a female side of the bracket puts something of a
damper on things, I'd imagine. I'm sure there is going to be many
things this contest that are definitely unexpected, but for pre-contest
arguing, there probably shouldn't be too much. I noticed that there are many matches that are just so evenly split and have such a good case for either one that it's not worth arguing about. This contest should be just as entertaining, if not moreso, than the other contests before it. Lots of matches we're set on being not worth arguing may just end up being the ones that have the complete opposite result of expectations. So is this part of it boring? Definitely. Will the contest be? I don't think so. We're going to start the contest off with a 92% blowout, baby! --- She comes dressed for war, and her wrath is terrible. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/9/2006 6:09:53 PM | message detail |
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And we all know how you stat-heads treated people that were baking on WoW I did say that if WoW would beat GTA, I would take it to win the bracket. I just didn't think it was going to rally that many... ...heh, and I was wrong on both counts, but I never said it simply wouldn't happen. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2006 6:10:34 PM | message detail |
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I respect the majority of those that picked WC over GTA about as much
as I respect the majority that picked Master Hand over Kuja. Instead of
being right that your pick would show surprising or unprecedented
strength, both entries ended up being fodder and you happened to pick
the slightly less pathetic entrant. You likely get more or less the exact same amount of people picking WC in a match against, say, Resident Evil. Except then it gets blown out to smithereens. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2006 6:12:52 PM | message detail |
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PoP wasn't goin' to touch Kratos anyway. Yay for flawed reasoning. Not that I haven't heard it all before, but this is an example of GoW overestimation and PoP underestimation. You'd think GTA would have taught you not to treat the Top Ten List and GotY polls as a be-all end-all of things... --- Commit it to memory. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 6:20:14 PM | message detail |
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Karma Hunter beat me to it. Warcraft didn't impress as much as GTA disappointed. And nothing at all pointed to it doing that
badly. Either the GotY polls are absolutely useless when it comes to
one-on-one matches, or GTA lost all of its strength when being
considered as a series. But all Warcraft proved was that it indeed had
the rallying capability to pull out a close victory. As for this contest, I didn't say it would be boring in itself. I was just saying that the prediction period seems kinda dead. As far as the bracket is concerned, and taking potential toss-ups and upsets into play, this is looking to be the best contest since the Games contest. It just doesn't feel like it. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 9/9/2006 6:26:13 PM | message detail |
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We all aready know Kratos's strength anyway. 40% on Sora? That's near-elite! --- caps |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 6:55:00 PM | message detail |
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Someone mentioned the Prince of Persia being as strong as GoW Kratos was. I don't think PoP will be as strong as GoW Kratos I don't see why not. All three PoP games are on the Greatest Hits collection I believe. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Who Cares? | Posted 9/9/2006 6:58:36 PM | message detail |
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As for this contest, I didn't say it would be boring in itself. I
was just saying that the prediction period seems kinda dead. As far as
the bracket is concerned, and taking potential toss-ups and upsets into
play, this is looking to be the best contest since the Games contest.
It just doesn't feel like it. This prediction period has been quiet. Hell Phoenix/Gordon has somehow gotten more attention than Zelda/Aeris (and has more Phoenix>Gordon takers tha Aeris>Zelda to boot) For me, it's like Ceej was on his way to making a great bracket and stopped halfway thru deciding this was good enough. And it doesn't even need a major overhaul either, just switch a few chracters and setups here & there & it looks much better. --- Chun-Li's Road to the Female Final Four: vs Kasumi (Septemeber 26th) |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 6:59:11 PM | message detail |
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Is the contest losing its touch? I can say that I'm not caring nearly as much about this contest as I used to be... I don't see how. Zero/Kirby/Luigi fourpack? Ganondorf/Vincent? Tifa/Aeris/Zelda? Crono/Sonic? The Battle Royale? Dante/Yoshi? PW/Gordan? Crono/Samus? All quite debatable. This has potential for a great contest I'd say. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:00:33 PM | message detail |
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And we all know how you stat-heads treated people that were baking on WoW Now we all know this was a very dumb thing to say. I respect the majority of those that picked WC over GTA about as much as I respect the majority that picked Master Hand over Kuja. This I don't think is fair though. A lot more people around here picked Warcraft than Master Hand. Also Warcraft made a lot more sense - we had plenty of reasons to fully expect GTA to flop. Kuja's flopping was more shocking. Warcraft winning was hardly shocking at all, it was a fairly popular pick as far as upsets go. Over 45% Oracle average and 38 vs. 95 BOP picks. A clear upset, but nothing like MH/Kuja among board regulars. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:02:58 PM | message detail |
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And nothing at all pointed to it doing that badly. What makes you say this...? I recall saying or discussing that Final Fantasy might be able to get 80% on GTA prior to the contest. As I said, we had plenty of reasons to think GTA was weak. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:04:55 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why not. All three PoP games are on the Greatest Hits collection I believe. I didn't say he couldn't be stronger, just that I wouldn't expect him to be. Someone made a point about his games being named after him, which is a good point. But I don't think his character appeal is like Kratos'. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 7:08:36 PM | message detail |
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Character appeal huh....care to elaborate? Sure there two entirely
different characters. Kratos is more of a brute force, slice n dice,
rip your ass in half type of man. While PoP is athletic, agile, crafty,
and has to use his head a lot, however can also do quite well in combat. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2006 7:12:16 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft winning was a popular pick because it was Blizzard.
That's it. GTA flopping wasn't even taken into account by the vast
majority of people. I have no intentions of praising the same logic
that lead to Kerrigan > Vincent six months beforehand. And Kuja flopping was obvious, it just depends on who you ask. I had MH > Kuja in my bracket from day one, and I never even gave it a second though. I'll never fathom why people thought he'd be strong, but maybe that's just me... --- Commit it to memory. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 7:14:08 PM | message detail |
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Well we didn't have much of a reason to doubt FF9 at the time. Vivi doesn't exactly suck or anything. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:17:27 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft winning was a popular pick because it was Blizzard. That's
it. GTA flopping wasn't even taken into account by the vast majority of
people. I have no intentions of praising the same logic that lead to
Kerrigan > Vincent six months beforehand. Warcraft is Warcraft. It's a fairly popular series. And we have a lot of reasons to little to no faith in GTA. And comparing it to Vincent/Kerrigan is pure absurdity. Utter absurdity. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 7:18:49 PM | message detail |
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The fact that Vincent/Kerrigan got discussion was insane. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2006 7:21:17 PM | message detail |
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Vincent/Kerrigan is just another match that only made me feel nervous
about it because B8 decided to over-analyze it. GTA/Warcraft is one of
those matches that wasn't analyzed quite enough. --- Z1mZum won the Guru Contest. I picked Pokemon over Metroid, GTA over Warcraft, Halo over CV, Street Fighter over RE, and FF over Zelda. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 7:21:46 PM | message detail |
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much faith in the Square fanbase. Until then, every character from a FF
game from VII and after carried at least midcard strength. Cloud was
the 2nd most popular character on this site. As a villain, Sephiroth
was the 3rd most popular character. Squall was pretty strong. Auron was
pretty strong. Vivi splashed on the scene and ended up being pretty
strong. Even Aeris and Yuna, who I didn't see any appeal to, ended up
having some strength. I figured the Squaresoft fanbase would at least carry Kuja past "a ****ing HAND". =P Now after Dante/Terra and Kirby/Cecil as well, we know better now. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 7:24:54 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft is Warcraft. It's a fairly popular series. And we have a lot of reasons to little to no faith in GTA. A fairly popular series that still ended up looking pathetic. It's not like Warcraft exactly proved it had strength or anything. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/9/2006 7:35:54 PM | message detail |
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Anyone think MC/Sub deserves even a little bit of discussion? --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 7:42:11 PM | message detail |
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Well of course. Sub-Zero has a great chance of winning that matchup.
Even if Mortal Kombat isn't as popular as it used to be, there are
still plenty of people on GameFAQs who don't care for Halo and Master
Chief at all.
Even liking Mortal Kombat just a little bit back in the day would be
enough incentive for taking Sub-Zero in a matchup against Master Chief.
Sub-Zero is going to get at least 46% against MC. We're
probably going to see a barnburner, and could even see Sub-Zero safely
dispatch MC without even a problem. --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/9/2006 7:42:58 PM | message detail |
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*enough incentive to vote for Sub-Zero that is... --- Vote for Carmen Sandiego in SC2k6 Currently playing: NOTHING! lol real-world work |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/9/2006 7:43:04 PM | message detail |
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I've been considering taking Sub-Zero over MC for awhile now actually.. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2006 7:46:22 PM | message detail |
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I don't remember if I had a bracket for the villain contest, but if I was here, I could've told you Kuja was going to bomb. And I respect the "WHAT THE HELL R U THINKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GTA IS TEH UBAR POWER HOUSEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" people as much as I respect the Samus > Mario people. TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:46:45 PM | message detail |
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A fairly popular series that still ended up looking pathetic. It's not like Warcraft exactly proved it had strength or anything. So? And it wasn't pathetic anyway, just average. And I think Sub-Zero>MC is a decent pick. I wouldn't take it, but my first reaction to the match on the bracket was hesitation. I was tempted to go with Sub-Zero for a bit. In the end I decided Sub-Zero was more risky than my first impression, but it wouldn't take a miracle for him to win. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/9/2006 7:47:08 PM | message detail |
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Hey creative, less arguing about Warcraft and more archiving of those missing 2002 match pics! ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: Disgaea 2, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, Castlevania: LoI |
| creativename | Posted 9/9/2006 7:50:29 PM | message detail |
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Were they posted or something? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/9/2006 7:52:40 PM | message detail |
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I'd consider the upset more if MK was just equal to SF's popularity on this site. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| shadow8021 | Posted 9/9/2006 7:53:16 PM | message detail |
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Sonic DESERVES to beat Crono. --- Character Battle Score: 0/0 Next Pick: lol Samus > Nidoran F |
| cyko | Posted 9/9/2006 7:53:20 PM | message detail |
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Vincent > Ganondorf > Sonic --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
