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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 354
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 3:29:40 PM | message detail |
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Now, for the rankings predicted in Kay Aitch's bracket as of right now! (note: may cause heart failure for some) 1. Cloud 2. Link 3. Sephiroth 4. Mario 5. Samus Aran 6. Mega Man (beats Samus in the finals, however) 7. Sonic 8. Crono 9. Ganondorf (post-TP) 10. Solid Snake 11. Bowser 12. Vincent Valentine (beats Ganondorf since the match is pre-TP though) 13. Squall Leonhart 14. Tifa Lockheart 15. Aeris Gainsborough It's like I'm living in 2k3!!! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/2/2006 3:31:23 PM | message detail |
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Before: 1. Link 2. Cloud 3. Sephiroth 4. Mario 5. Samus Aran 6. Sonic the Hedgehog 7. Mega Man 8. Crono 9. Solid Snake 10. Ganondorf 11. Bowser 12. Vincent Valentine 13. Squall Leonhart 14. Tifa Lockheart 15. Auron After: 1. Link 2. Cloud 3. Sephiroth 4. Mario 5. Samus Aran 6. Sonic the Hedgehog 7. Mega Man 8. Ganondorf 9. Crono 10. Solid Snake 11. Bowser 12. Vincent Valentine 13. Zelda 14. Squall Leonhart 15. Tifa Lockheart Huh, not much changes in the actual order... though Link and Sonic should distance themselves from their immediate inferiors. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 3:32:28 PM | message detail |
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I think everyones banking on TP too much. For all we know Ganon
might not be in TP too much till about halfway through the game :O Bless it. The role is not nearly as important for this match. What is important is that the mindset of GameFAQs is completely turned to all things Zelda. Right now that may be a little hard to grasp, even with Zelda taking care of business in the series contest, but once the release date/price get announced it'll be the beginning of the crazy Nintendo hype train. This game is going to start getting hyped like nuts in only a short matter of time -- TV ads, magazine ads, Internet ads, trailers, screenshots, anticipation, etc. With Twilight Princess coming out around that match Ganon is going to be a crapload of votes he might not have otherwise gotten. Everyone coming to this site is going to be doing so for one thing -- Zelda. I do believe we saw something like this once...Super Mario Sunshine! --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/2/2006 3:32:44 PM | message detail |
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People banking on Sonic doing so well this contest...whats your
reasoning to an increase that will give him such an advantage in his
path? --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 3:34:19 PM | message detail |
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People banking on Sonic doing so well this contest...whats your
reasoning to an increase that will give him such an advantage in his
path? He needs like a 1% boost to do what they want him to. >> --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/2/2006 3:34:24 PM | message detail |
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Well I gotta admit HM, this is your best upset pick case to make yet. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 3:35:17 PM | message detail |
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People banking on Sonic doing so well this contest...whats your
reasoning to an increase that will give him such an advantage in his
path? Random variation and a good feeling! Also, I'm willing to place a large bet that if Sonic edges out Ganondorf HM will be all over the Sonic > Crono bandwagon. Then if Crono wins that match it'll all be Crono > MM. Then if MM wins he immediately shifts gears and tries to cling to his fleeting hope of Mega Man not SFFing Samus to victory! BOOK IT --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 3:35:27 PM | message detail |
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1. Cloud 2. Link Do you really have that? >> --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/2/2006 3:35:50 PM | message detail |
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He needs like a 1% boost to do what they want him to. >> Yep, I'm only expecting a slightly better performance from him on Crono than MM. Go Go increased vote totals/whatever other little random factors! --- Moltar Status: Bracket filled and ready to go. 2006 is the year of Samus Aran |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 3:36:14 PM | message detail |
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Do you really have that? >> I can almost hear your heart going all aflutter right now! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/2/2006 3:37:15 PM | message detail |
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Also, I'm willing to place a large bet that if Sonic edges out Ganondorf HM will be all over Well, duh. That's the purpose of account bets. ...Wait, there was more in that sentence? Eh. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 3:38:53 PM | message detail |
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I can almost hear your heart going all aflutter right now! My bracket would love for you to have such a thing~! ... But you'll already have burned after round 1 when Ganon begins his run through the male bracket!! lol vincent --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 9/2/2006 3:38:55 PM | message detail |
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Oh, well I keep seeing people have Sonic winning the finals, thats what
I don't get. Explain how the hell he could beat Crono, Mega Man, and
Samus, all in a row <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2006 3:39:20 PM | message detail |
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What Megatokyo said. Thank you. Perhaps you don't realize how damn close that makes Ganon to Sonic. The gap between the two if Ganon just barely, barely slips by is about 1.28%. Ganon doesn't even need Twilight Princess to beat Sonic if he's that close. You make it seem like there is a world of difference between Snake and Sonic when there's not that much. If Ganon beats Snake with 52%, then he's dead even with Sonic -- ahead by a slight margin even. I said WITHIN 2% OF EACH OTHER, not a 52% win. And then, Sonic is still ahead. I realise Sonic/Snake are close, by the way, please don't condescend. You say that it wouldn't matter because people are going to be apparently setting up their consoles (this takes all of five minutes at the most) and then playing the game. Now you're assuming that the wondrous gamers of GameFAQs are not going to eventually take a break and not come here to look for help or to discuss the game with other people. ...Why? The setting up their consoles thing was to add more realism to it. And with TP being as anticipated as it is, no, I don't think people are going to be doing a whole lot except the essentials. I'm not nearly as obsessive as some of the people of this site, but the "weekend of RE4" in April 2005 was almost completely-unGameFAQs'D. I did a little on Sunday night, but not much. And I didn't even have massive hopes for the game. I thought it would be good, not superbly fantastically great and awesome beyond belief to the point I wanted to explode, reform and then play it 3 times over. Now, imagine something as long and awesome as a Zelda game to keep people interested. It won't be EVERYBODY sitting in a zombified state, playing Zelda, but there will certainly be a fair few. Certainly enough to push Sonic there...just about. Besides, this is hypothetical. I still think Vince will beat Ganon anyway >_> Hmm, that'd be nice. It'd save me a sleepless night for sure. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 3:41:00 PM | message detail |
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My bracket would love for you to have such a thing~! ... But you'll already have burned after round 1 when Ganon begins his run through the male bracket!! lol vincent That's why I'm going to need Cloud to pull through and make a surprise comeback for my bracket! lol secret kh analysis that gives him an insider edge <___________________________< --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 3:42:35 PM | message detail |
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I'm not nearly as obsessive as some of the people of this site, but
the "weekend of RE4" in April 2005 was almost completely-unGameFAQs'D.
I did a little on Sunday night, but not much. And I didn't even have
massive hopes for the game. I thought it would be good, not superbly
fantastically great and awesome beyond belief to the point I wanted to
explode, reform and then play it 3 times over. Hey, you're not going to see any of me when I get Twilight Princess, but that doesn't mean no one is going to come to GameFAQs. People here will still be frequenting this board during the day and everything else -- and these people will have Twilight Princess. I have no clue why on earth you think Twilight Princess is going to do something different from any other large game. People are not going to be playing the game 24 hours a day until they beat it. And given what this site is called, I would imagine many of them would come here for help. Besides, this is hypothetical. I still think Vince will beat Ganon anyway You and all those who think like you are going down!! >> --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2006 3:55:46 PM | message detail |
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Why do I think TP is going to do something different than any other large game? Because it's been anticipated for years, it's Zelda, and it looks fantastic. People here will still be frequenting this board during the day and everything else -- and these people will have Twilight Princess. Yes, but who's to say Ganon will appear until halfway through the game? Or, hell, we might be seeing a Ganondorf in a completely different form - his pig form, or just plain different looking. Miyamoto said "more than you could ever, ever expect"...that could mean any number of things. And then there's the simple fact that not everybody is going to be buying Twilight Princess on the day it comes out. A fair few, certainly. But not enough. That's what Ganon is all about this year. Not enough fans. Not enough screentime. Not enough time for his boost to take effect. Not enough contest strength to overhaul Vincent. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 4:03:05 PM | message detail |
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Because it's been anticipated for years, it's Zelda, and it looks fantastic. And it looks significantly harder than The Wind Waker. Guess what that means! Yes, but who's to say Ganon will appear until halfway through the game? Or, hell, we might be seeing a Ganondorf in a completely different form - his pig form, or just plain different looking. Miyamoto said "more than you could ever, ever expect"...that could mean any number of things. Yoshiyuki, the game's enemy designer and Ganon's designer for the game, actually was the one who said that. Given how Ganondorf in his human state has been appearing since Ocarina of Time, I'd wager that's the one we'll see. We could see the other one, which would be crazy to see with those graphics, but that really doesn't make much difference. And Ganon can appear in the opening cut scene with his massive army ready to invade Hyrule for all we know. Not focusing on the role here when it's that early And then there's the simple fact that not everybody is going to be buying Twilight Princess on the day it comes out. A fair few, certainly. But not enough. That's what Ganon is all about this year. "A fair few"? That game is going to sell out the initial shipment with absolute ease. Everyone is going to be going out on day one to buy Twilight Princess -- and you don't have to buy a new console to get it either, which helps the situation out. The site is crazy for the Wii and Zelda; I'd be shocked if a huge percentage didn't go out and buy it on day one. If you know it's this large game, then you should expect more people to be buying this than any other big release. I can't believe we're discussing how many people coming to GameFAQs around this time will have bought Twilight Princess. Most people would think that Twilight Princess releasing on the day of the match is Ganon's best scenario, which may or may not be true. Lord knows it doesn't need to be out for weeks in order for Ganon to beat Sonic. Not enough fans. Not enough screentime. Not enough time for his boost to take effect. Not enough contest strength to overhaul Vincent. All of those happen to be wrong, too!! --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2006 4:13:40 PM | message detail |
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You say it'll sell out. Well, there's going to be a few people missing out on one, isn't there. Yes, there will be many buying it within one or two days of release. It might even exceed the number of votes Ganon is behind Sonic...but unless 100% of them vote Ganon, it's not happening. I know I'm nitpicking at small things, but we all know how close this one is going to be, Vincent OR Ganon. So the small things matter in a big way. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/2/2006 4:15:54 PM | message detail |
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Well, not 100% (over-exaggeration) but a very high percentage. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/2/2006 4:26:02 PM | message detail |
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I think everyones banking on TP too much. For all we know Ganon
might not be in TP too much till about halfway through the game :O Even if Ganon isn't in the game at all, he'll still beat Sonic because of it by Sunshining ahead of him. Of course, he'd then lose to Crono, but still. I can't see Ganon losing to Sonic, no matter what happens with TP. Why do I think TP is going to do something different than any other large game? Because it's been anticipated for years, it's Zelda, and it looks fantastic. You don't even necessarily have to think it'll do something different. Other than Mario Sunshine, we've never had a really big game come out during a contest before. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 4:27:11 PM | message detail |
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What happens if it isn't out? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/2/2006 4:29:43 PM | message detail |
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What happens if it isn't out? Then it'll be coming out in a day or two anyway, and hype will push Ganon through. But still, I'm about as worried about TP not coming out in time for Ganon vs. Sonic as I am about the FFVII remake coming out in time for Ganon vs. Vincent. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 4:31:50 PM | message detail |
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Betting on hype. Nice. Not to mention that it isn't impossible for TP to come out a little later than anticipated. Because it's NEVER been delayed before, right? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 4:34:15 PM | message detail |
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Not to mention that it isn't impossible for TP to come out a little
later than anticipated. Because it's NEVER been delayed before, right? Delays at this point are not happening. =p --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:04:17 PM | message detail |
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I obviously wouldn't expect it to get a date and then get delayed from
said date now, of course. But there's nothing that's making Nintendo
say "Holy crap we have to release it before X date or Wii are so screwed."
I've seen one concrete date -- Q4 2006. And I wouldn't expect them to
rush it, either -- they're Nintendo, and the reason why they're the
best gaming company in the biz is because their masterpieces take as
long as required to ensure perfection. If Twilight Princess needed a
week more, it'll get a week more. Simple as that. --- Commit it to memory. |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:09:37 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but as much as HM and myself are betting on TP being out before that match, people are betting that it's not.
Unless of course you think TP won't boost Ganon over Sonic, in which
case you're just crazy! The only thing that scares me about having
Ganon > Male Bracket is that Mega Man might try and pull some funny
business. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:11:01 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man will be pulling all kinds of funny business to become SC2k6 champion! Believe it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:11:36 PM | message detail |
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But I don't wanna! ;_; --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 5:13:46 PM | message detail |
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Twilight Princess is practically done at this point. They
have the exact date of when this is going to launch already in mind,
and there's no delay coming as a result. Everyone from the people in
the industry to the retailers have been hearing it's coming sooner than
later, which has a lot of people estimating we're going to see an
October launch from Nintendo. It isn't a matter of rushing to them at
all because everything is basically set for them to release any time
they want. Developers and publishers already have their final hardware,
the Wii has likely already began mass production -- along with software
-- and all that's left is to announce the date it's hitting the market
to masses. Expecting this before the match with Vincent would be a bit crazy. I mean, there have been rumblings of Nintendo coming out on the 14th and saying you'll be able to buy the Wii in two weeks, but that's not something you work with. But saying it'll come around the match with Sonic? That's not stretching anything; in fact, I'd wager that's likely that it would release around then. But on the other hand, it wouldn't shock me if it did happen to be in November as the release date, but I'm not expecting that to happen. Based on everything I've heard and everything I know about Nintendo, I've got the date pegged at October 22nd, 2006. We'll see how close it is in about two weeks. >> --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:20:48 PM | message detail |
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I know TP is done -- I follow the game too, y'know -- I'm just saying
if it NEEDED a week more than it would originally have, that's going to
delay the process of its eventual release (which entails more than just
the making of the game, as we all know). Plus, with the game coming out
with the Wii and no sooner (Nintendo likely doesn't want anyone other
than their hardcore followers to even know it's out on the GC), it is
potentially constrained by that as well. What if Nintendo slightly
delays the Wii in order to make sure that a game or two -- let's say
Corruption or, God willing,
Super Mario Galaxy -- makes launch, thus making a better and more
complete launch as a whole? They know their competitors' launch date,
and the ball is firmly in their court with a lot of room to work with.
They don't need to rush, and I'm not convinced TP makes it out in time
for Sonic/Ganon. It's certainly not such a sure thing that people are
making ludicrous comparisons to a non-existent FFVII remake... --- Commit it to memory. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/2/2006 5:33:13 PM | message detail |
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*obligatory Ganon will not make it to Sonic post* <_< --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:35:16 PM | message detail |
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*Obligatory LOL PW > FREEMAN YEAH RIGHT LOLLOLLSAUCE post* >_> --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:35:26 PM | message detail |
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Well duh. But I opt to entertain the opposition's fleeting hopes before their inevitable demise! --- Commit it to memory. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 9/2/2006 5:35:31 PM | message detail |
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Wonder what happens if they rush SMG and it winds up coming out before
Yoshi/Snake, or Bowser/Crono, or Luigi/Kirby+Sonic (if Luigi makes it
past Zero)? --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:36:30 PM | message detail |
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If SMG comes out before the conclusion of this contest I'll eat a kitten alive. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:36:35 PM | message detail |
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Wonder what happens if they rush SMG The first of many bad scenarios in your post. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/2/2006 5:36:49 PM | message detail |
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But you see, Phoenix will win. Ganon will not! --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:38:15 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, if Phoenix wins, I'll have a friend of mine video record me running around the streets of my town naked. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 5:38:20 PM | message detail |
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You could talk about the possibility of such a thing happening, but in all likelihood, something like that isn't
going to happen. The possible delay of Metroid Prime 3 could be for
nothing more than to make it so that it doesn't have to compete with
Zelda -- and that's why I would consider long before delaying the whole
Wii to have Metroid Prime 3 meet launch on day one. "Launch window" is
a term that companies often use now anyway, and if it's done on day
one, it'd still be within the launch window, which is good enough. I know that is just a situation you're coming up with, but it's not one I would even consider. There's no rush for them to come out, but they seem to be wanting to have it come out sooner. It makes sense that they would want to beat Sony out of the release gate by a few weeks, and if everything is done, which it seems to be, they'll want to release whenever they can. Twilight Princess coming out before the Ganon/Sonic match is certainly not a guarantee at this point. We won't know for absolute certain until September 14th, but with everything we know it isn't unlikely to expect it to come around then. --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/2/2006 5:38:57 PM | message detail |
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Get your camera ready !! --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:39:25 PM | message detail |
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It's actually broken, but I'll go out and buy a new one! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 5:39:31 PM | message detail |
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Vincent beat Ganon? HAW HAW. --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 9/2/2006 5:41:44 PM | message detail |
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The bad thing about this contest is there's no crazy upsets for me to take. Rikku > Samus? Sora > Mega Man? Riku > Dante? They're all too crazy to even consider. --- caps |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/2/2006 5:43:12 PM | message detail |
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Well, I guess Riku > Yoshi would be considered a crazy upset, but I
wouldn't be that surprised if Riku managed to win that match. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 9/2/2006 5:43:41 PM | message detail |
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I'd be floored. --- "Zelda isn't the type of game that can be a 100 on a scale of 1 to 100 -- it has to be 120." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:43:49 PM | message detail |
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Whoever said anything about Vincent beating Ganon? Clearly
CATS/Ganondorf is that second round match we've all been waiting for.
Let's get those predictions ready -- ! CATS (2004c raw) VS Ganondorf (2004c raw) CATS has a strength of 13.05. Ganondorf has a strength of 12.98. CATS wins with 50.27% of the vote! A win of 473 with 88,263 total votes cast. Clearly insurmountable odds, even for TP. --- Commit it to memory. |
| ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/2/2006 5:44:17 PM | message detail |
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I'd expect Dante to beat Snake before I expected Riku to beat Yoshi. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Angsty Mermaids. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/2/2006 5:44:47 PM | message detail |
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If you have Riku beating Yoshi, you may as well have Riku > Dante and Sora winning the male bracket. --- Commit it to memory. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 9/2/2006 5:45:16 PM | message detail |
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Sorry, but that's worth a laugh and a half. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |