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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 5:15:15 AM | message detail
If Sora broke 40% on Megaman, would you fear for MM's chances vs Snake?
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/1/2006 6:14:21 AM | message detail
Well, Samus kept her at 34% and he's since had KH2, not to mention I can see Mega Man start to fall once this next generation comes into play (not much, of course -- he's still a loved icon)...it would depend on how Solid does in his matches until he gets to Mega Man. Anamoly and KH2 or not, he doesn't want to do too much worse than Solid Snake did, and I can't imagine Mega Man actually matching that performance last year.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 6:34:39 AM | message detail
I don't know why but Megaman seems really vulnerable this year. I'm tempted to take Snake over him >_<
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 7:14:51 AM | message detail
Snake will surely increase this year, but I can't see him beating MM, somehow. I don't know why, just a feeling. He'll probably break 46 or 47%. Megaman is losing to one opponent and one opponent ONLY: Sonic the Hedgehog.
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/1/2006 7:49:27 AM | message detail
There are like 17 screennames with Link in the name on this board alone

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 7:59:27 AM | message detail
Only 46%-47%? Going by last year, he nearly breaks 48%. Add in SSBB + MGS4 hype and MGS3:S and Snake should be seeing 49%.
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luigi4500 | Posted 9/1/2006 8:04:01 AM | message detail
So do you guys really think Crono will rise above Megaman?

and Samus above them both?
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therealmnm | Posted 9/1/2006 8:09:49 AM | message detail
So do you guys really think Crono will rise above Megaman?

Huh?
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 9/1/2006 8:11:21 AM | message detail
I think Samus takes down the winner of the male bracket (Sonic) and Megaman takes down Snake. I knew both matches were two years ago, but I still can't see Solid Snake or Sonic coming back and win a rematch when they lost with around 42% against the same opponents.
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luigi4500 | Posted 9/1/2006 8:16:55 AM | message detail
i have the winner of the male bracket as megaman
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 8:18:42 AM | message detail
I think Samus takes down the winner of the male bracket (Sonic) and Megaman takes down Snake. I knew both matches were two years ago, but I still can't see Solid Snake or Sonic coming back and win a rematch when they lost with around 42% against the same opponents.

That's exactly what I thought.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 8:24:13 AM | message detail
but I still can't see Solid Snake or Sonic coming back and win a rematch when they lost with around 42% against the same opponents.

That's unfortunate :(
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voltch | Posted 9/1/2006 8:28:18 AM | message detail
crono should still retain a bit of strength right?
it's not all gone?
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 8:31:31 AM | message detail
What are you talking about >_>

Crono is consistant every year. He hasn't lost any strength.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/1/2006 8:34:52 AM | message detail
Meh, I still think Snake's performance on Mega Man in 2k4 was a fluke. Sure he was weaker that year, but not that much weaker!

Plus...

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/sc2k4/sum04b58.jpg

lol faceshot!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 8:39:10 AM | message detail
In terms of design, that's one of the best pictures ever. In terms of giving both characters an even footing, it sucks.

That picture probably gave MM a slight overperformance.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 8:40:01 AM | message detail
MM def. overperformed. Snake got more on roided up Mario then he did on MM in 2k4.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/1/2006 8:40:53 AM | message detail
For me, Crono's in the same boat as Link

And it's likely the same for several people on GameFAQs, and look at how popular Link is. Chrono Trigger is popular enough to be the 3rd strongest game on GameFAQs. Link isn't as popular as he is because he's some amazing character. He gets votes because people here adore the Legend of Zelda series, and he's the guy you play as. I would imagine it's the same for Crono. He gets votes because he's the main character of Chrono Trigger. Character is irrelevant.

Oh, and for me, I suppose Sonic/Ganondorf (if he beats Vincent, that is!!) is to me what Mario/Samus was to a lot of people last year. It's Sonic, man. The idea of Ganondorf beating him just...doesn't register with me. Yeah, that's horrible reasoning, but so was this same reasoning for picking Mario over Samus. It worked for them.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 8:59:40 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb5.jpg

Who is the face by Tifa? It's so bland, I can't tell.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/1/2006 9:00:47 AM | message detail
To the left or to the right? The left is Chun-Li, and the right in the back is...Carmen Sandiego, I think????
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therealmnm | Posted 9/1/2006 9:03:22 AM | message detail
Carmen Sandiego? Bland? Ha!
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/1/2006 9:04:07 AM | message detail
Oh, ok. It was Chun-Li then. I know Carmen >_>
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 9:08:10 AM | message detail
That banner is awesome. Lara has a relatively prominent position. Pity about the lack of Snake :(
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/1/2006 9:09:28 AM | message detail
But it has the male and female bracket winners on it, at least!
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shadow8021 | Posted 9/1/2006 9:11:21 AM | message detail
So how much can you see Bowser getting on Crono?

I think he might push 47%, after all, he has had New Super Mario Bros. this year.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 9/1/2006 9:11:58 AM | message detail
Oh, and I missed the Luigi/Yoshi stuff in the last topic, but...The whole "Yoshi did better than Luigi on Pac-Man so he's obviously stronger!" doesn't really fly with me. For one thing, it's a "SFF" match. The degree won't always be proportional. For another, Luigi would have done better in 2005 on Pac-Man than he would have in 2004, too. We just can't say how much.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 9:12:03 AM | message detail
Yes! Sonic has quite a bit of space as well! That damn mute has been SHUNT'D to the side in preparation for his CRUSHING DEFEAT at the hands of the FASTEST THING ON EARTH !!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 9:13:38 AM | message detail
Oh, and I missed the Luigi/Yoshi stuff in the last topic, but...The whole "Yoshi did better than Luigi on Pac-Man so he's obviously stronger!" doesn't really fly with me.

Nor me. That ignores the massive boost Luigi received.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 10:43:09 AM | message detail
How anyone can say Samus didn't get SFFed that badly, I have no idea. She drops 8% in the x-stats, and that's AFTER the amazing Nintendo boost. Yeah, okay.

Right now, this is how my Battle Royal looks.

Link > Cloud > Seph > Crono > Mario > Samus

The two things that have changed are Cloud > Seph as opposed to Seph > Cloud, and Crono > Mario instead of the other way around. Looking at that poll with Link, Cloud, Seph, and Mario just screams to me "PICK THE MALE WINNER YOU IDIOT LOLOLOLOLOL" the only way I see it playing out bad for me is if MM wins.

Also, sorry if I just broke up some discussion or debate, I'm only halfway through the sixth page, and have 15 posts left on the day.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/1/2006 11:02:25 AM | message detail
CJayC should have made the brackets close the night of the 14th. >>

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 11:23:38 AM | message detail
I thought about how that might work. The best I could come up with is to play out a final battle like normal, but after you make the final hit, switch to a cutscene where the two finish the fight, along with some dialogue. Thinking something like the Spaceworld 2001 demo where Ganon and Link fought, except Ganon ultimately ends up winning. <<

Or Zelda comes out of nowhere and you control her to kill Ganon for reals. LOL ZELDAFAQS OH MAN ZELDA/GANON FINAL BOOK IT.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 11:24:47 AM | message detail
From Super Luigi Posted 8/31/2006 9:44:16 PM #161
And the Mortal Kombat games this generation have been pretty good. And they're getting better as each one comes out.

GameFAQs doesn't care about Mortal Combat games. At all.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 11:28:11 AM | message detail
It's Super Luigi, Ulti.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 11:38:31 AM | message detail
...This has probably been brought up already, but...

The PS3 launch date (and thus, release of Sonic the Hedgehog on 360 and PS3) is November 17th, yes?
I think that this is day 2 of the battle royale. So presuming Samus is knocked out first...we might see something crazy from Sonic?

That said, there's a good chance of him losing to Crono. >_> But STILL.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 11:41:31 AM | message detail
And a basic rule of analysis is that you want to trust the logic of the person who predicted most accurately.

I like how you think, mainly because it allows me to throw "There was no way Samus wasn't going to get her ass SFFd to hell and back by Mario" around some more.

As for the BR, I have Link > Cloud > Sephy > Mario > Crono > Samus. The one part of this I'm struggling with is Mario vs Crono. Nintendo SFF is far more severe than Square SFF. The only thing holding me back from having Crono 4th is that there will be three Square characters in the poll at that point, as opposed to only two for Nintendo.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 11:44:17 AM | message detail
Plus Crono was on a Nintendo system. DOUBLE THE SFF OH LAWD. Seriously though, I have Crono > Mario and I'm feeling pretty good about it. I just can't see Mario having as many die-hards that would vote him over anyone like Crono, especially when you throw Link into the mix. Plus I don't think Seph or Cloud wold really overperform on them that much.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 11:44:31 AM | message detail
them = him.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/1/2006 11:46:43 AM | message detail
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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/1/2006 11:48:26 AM | message detail
I think that this is day 2 of the battle royale. So presuming Samus is knocked out first...we might see something crazy from Sonic?

The contest ends on November 19th, which means the PS3 would come out during Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Mario match. It shouldn't have any affect on Sonic, who won't be there but assuming he was. >>

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 11:49:38 AM | message detail
People are vastly overestimating Link's SFF power against Mario, I think. I doubt Samus would ever break 35% on Link again, but Mario might still be able to.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/1/2006 11:51:41 AM | message detail
People are vastly overestimating Link's SFF power against Mario, I think.

It's a different situation post-TP, which should have been out a couple of weeks before the Battle Royale even begins.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 11:56:01 AM | message detail
That's very true.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 12:05:43 PM | message detail
Which is why I have Crono > Mario. The Nintendo fanbase is going to be so hyped up on TP I'll be damned if anyone but the hardcorest Mario fans voted for him. Yeah, I just said hardcorest.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 12:06:30 PM | message detail
The contest ends on November 19th, which means the PS3 would come out during Link/Cloud/Sephiroth/Mario match. It shouldn't have any affect on Sonic, who won't be there but assuming he was. >>

...Dammit. I thought I had done the maths perfectly! :(

Well, let's just hope that hype for StH reaches fever pitch while he's still there, so he can beat...Mario >_> Actually, he might be able to do that anyway, with Link dominating Ninty votes and all post-TP.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 12:09:36 PM | message detail
From ExplicitAriel Posted 9/1/2006 3:05:43 PM #393
Which is why I have Crono > Mario. The Nintendo fanbase is going to be so hyped up on TP I'll be damned if anyone but the hardcorest Mario fans voted for him. Yeah, I just said hardcorest.

That plus Crono just seems like he'd resist Square SFF a lot better than Mario. His game already did the same, plus he himself did fairly well on Link in 2004.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/1/2006 12:12:47 PM | message detail
Not bad reasoning by any means, but I think Crono has too much going against him:

1. Mario is legitimately stronger. This will obviously help in any poll.
2. Mario will have one Nintendo character to contend with. Crono will have two Square characters to contend with.

Not only will Crono have to hold his own against Cloud, Sephiroth, and maybe even Link, but he'll have to hope for Nintendo SFF of the highest magnitude.
XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 12:15:30 PM | message detail
Why are you mentioning Crono? He won't even be there.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/1/2006 12:17:33 PM | message detail
My bad.
ExplicitAriel | Posted 9/1/2006 12:19:21 PM | message detail
Why are you mentioning Sonic, he's going out 2nd round? I'll be damned if I don't follow crazy HM upset pick one time in these contests, and then it actually happens!

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/1/2006 12:20:18 PM | message detail
Remind me to worry if the impossible happens and Vincent beats Ganon.
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