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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 353
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| Haste_2 | Posted 8/31/2006 2:15:32 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1685 - before SC2K4 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1284 - before SC2K3 These polls might be a sign of how weak Mario's going to be in the Battle Royale, at least in relation to Sephiroth, Cloud, or Link. Yeah, I know it's not a popularity contest there, but there's always some correlation between popularity and bracket support. It's interesting to note in the first poll that, despite Cloud winning SC2K3, Sephiroth was -still- almost as high as Cloud. But, maybe that should be expected as Sephiroth had more bracket support in 2K2 and 2K3, anyway. Oh, and here's a long forgetten "Battle Royale" match between some fodderific villains: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1988 - before Sp2K5 It's interesting to note that the rankings are more-or-less correct according to the x-stats EXCEPT for Master Hand... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/31/2006 2:17:14 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, actually. It's not like she could help Fisher being overrated. Lara, of course was horrifically underrated ! Forgive me for FIXING --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| SowlLikesMen | Posted 8/31/2006 2:19:08 PM | message detail |
| Ah yes, sweet sweet MH > Kuja. A day that will never be forgotten for ExLax's *****ing all over the board that he lost his perfect bracket because a bunch of kiddies voted for A ****ING GLOVE. I never stopped laughing. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/31/2006 2:20:29 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, actually. It's not like she could help Fisher and Croft being overrated. So, you think Fisher 2k3 should be adjusted down 8% (or more, since he got a new game between 2k3 and 2k4)? Seriously? That would be quite a drop for Ganon, Tidus, and Magus. Would Ganon even be strong enough to beat Alucard, using that adjustment? --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/31/2006 2:24:16 PM | message detail |
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Anybody that still thinks Samus can beat Crono and then be first
eliminated in the Battle Royale is insane. She will not only be first
eliminated, but Crono will get 55% on her. I'm calling it. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/31/2006 2:27:12 PM | message detail |
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Sub's got a great chance fer an upset over MC too. It woulda happened for sure pre-Halo 2. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 2:28:12 PM | message detail |
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So, you think Fisher 2k3 should be adjusted down 8% (or more, since
he got a new game between 2k3 and 2k4)? Seriously? That would be quite
a drop for Ganon, Tidus, and Magus. Hey, he doesn't need to be *quite* that low, but he's closer to there than not. And Tidus and Magus are chumps, with Magus *still* being overrated thanks to the Devil Division. Would Ganon even be strong enough to beat Alucard, using that adjustment? Ganondorf's likely been on a steady rise since 2k3. Link boosted in 2k4, and there's always the Nintendo boost in 2k5. The fact that he went from Tidus level to knocking on Snake's door in the eyes of many confirms this. --- Commit it to memory. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/31/2006 2:28:39 PM | message detail |
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A ****ING GLOVE!! --- Put 3 CDs, a blender, two forks, and an action figure in the microwave with your GBA SP. Turn it on defrost for ten minutes, and when the timer reads five, spray it with the hose. ~ Pyrrian |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 2:28:51 PM | message detail |
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Anybody that still thinks Samus can beat Crono and then be first
eliminated in the Battle Royale is insane. She will not only be first
eliminated, but Crono will get 55% on her. I'm calling it. Uh...Snake > Samus? --- Commit it to memory. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/31/2006 2:29:54 PM | message detail |
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Actually post SSBB and MGS4, I'd totally take Snake > Samus <_< --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Big Bob | Posted 8/31/2006 2:34:10 PM | message detail |
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You know, if Samus gets her Zero-suit Samus picture, she could push 60% on whoever her opponent is. >_> TJF! --- If the universe implodes, this space belongs to NClark128. If the law wins, I win! September 22nd! Amy Rose > KOS-MOS |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/31/2006 2:35:15 PM | message detail |
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Shes already gonna have all the support she needs when she dominates Nidoran F. Fanboys will splooge over her performance. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/31/2006 2:35:34 PM | message detail |
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Ganondorf's likely been on a steady rise since 2k3. Link boosted in
2k4, and there's always the Nintendo boost in 2k5. The fact that he
went from Tidus level to knocking on Snake's door in the eyes of many
confirms this. But going from losing to Alucard to beating him with over 57% in a single year? That's almost as ridiculous as DK beating Vivi in a rematch! And you really think that Tidus has been at exactly the same strength from 2k2 to 2k5? I think that Tidus dropped off between 2k3 and 2k4. The overrating wasn't that extreme. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| cyko | Posted 8/31/2006 3:11:33 PM | message detail |
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alright, now that's an argument i respect, KH. That. Is. Not. Happening. Let's also keep in mind that Donkey Kong, if we take his boost as legitimate, has the biggest boost out of ANY Nintendo character. Bigger than Mario, bigger than Luigi, bigger than Kirby. That's insane. granted, DK's boost was large. but, it wasn't that much larger than the rest of the Nintendo bunch. it's possible that DK had more to gain from alarge influx of Ninntendo fans than Mario and Luigi and Kirby. plus, Knuckles's boost was even bigger than DK's and none of us have been able to come up with a logical explanation for that one. As for Vercetti 2k4 being stronger than Vercetti 2k3...Vercetti 2k4 has a higher ranking on BL. What more do you want? i semi-concede that point. i've just never been a big fan of the "base Link" concept. we'd like to believe that Cloud stayed constant from 2003 to 2004 and that Crono stayed constant from 2004 to 2005, but we really have no solid guaranteed proof. it's always been a hypothesis when it comes from gauging characters from year to year. And finally, Sub-Zero *is* different from Scorpion in many ways. Different moves. Different character (Sub-Zero is typically good, Scorpion is neutral/evil). From MK3 on, Sub-Zero has an ENTIRELY different design from Scorps. He's had his own game, something Scorpion has not had. They're different. wasn't Sub-Zero's game the worst in the series by a longshot? >_> the problem i have with Sub-Zero finally getting a different design later on (and thereby increasing his individuality and popularity) is that even MK3 was past Mortal Kombat's prime. the series peaked with the first two games, and that's where most people will remember him from. that, and the movie. based on the later entries of the series, fine, Sub-Zero does have potential to be a little stronger than Scorpion. but i personally don't think it will be much, if any at all. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/31/2006 3:22:25 PM | message detail |
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FACT OR FICTION? Ceej gives Samus a Zero Suit pic at least once in contest. --- Damn you Z1mZum! Were it not for my owning at the hands of you I would've claimed the guru crown at the 1st attempt! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/31/2006 3:34:27 PM | message detail |
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Knuckles's boost was even bigger than DK's and none of us have been able to come up with a logical explanation for that one. I know I have my opinions on the matter...damned Devil Division. wasn't Sub-Zero's game the worst in the series by a longshot? >_> the problem i have with Sub-Zero finally getting a different design later on (and thereby increasing his individuality and popularity) is that even MK3 was past Mortal Kombat's prime. the series peaked with the first two games, and that's where most people will remember him from. that, and the movie. based on the later entries of the series, fine, Sub-Zero does have potential to be a little stronger than Scorpion. but i personally don't think it will be much, if any at all. It was pretty bad, yes, though I don't know the series well enough to say if there were worse games out there or not. MK2 was definitely his peak though, true, though MK1, MK3, and UMK3 are all held in similar regards while MK:D is more favored than those, even...well, at least in the poll we have: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1789 Sub-Zero's in all of those and is the closest to being the face of MK you'll get, not to mention the only one with his own game (I think Lui Kang and Raiden share a game though...?). The movie probably didn't hurt either, and MK'll be having another game release just afew days before their match, so Sub-Zero has plenty of room to do better than Scorpion; between being likely stronger than Scorpion before he got his own game (the reason why he got the game instead of Scorpion, I bet), nabbing 42.5% in the MK-favorite poll about two years ago (which included Scorpion getting just under 30%), and a potential MK influx (not a large one, but hey, it can't hurt) that Scorpion never had the luck to have... ...then, from there, I think Scorpion 2k3 (2k4 had him behind Sephiroth/Auron) is at about 23%, and if people still believe Xbox/Halo/MC gets anti-voted, that could make Sub-Zero look even better than wherever he's already at (I'm playing safe with 24%, though I might think higher)... ...now it all depends on MC. Unadjusted, he's at 28.29%...if he's at his 2k3 level, I think that puts him at 24.38%. If we assume he's still exactly at his 2k3 level still (which, considering Halo 2 and the 360 have come out since then, it's hard to completely agree with that), that this suddenly becomes a toss-up. It's hard not to give MC some benefit of the doubt here, what with his great performance against Crono and the minor influx of 360 gamers, but Sub-Zero can still easily make a match out of it... ...I'm gettin' more tempted to take the pick myself now. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 8/31/2006 4:31:35 PM | message detail |
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From longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/31/2006 2:24:16 PM | #105 Anybody that still thinks Samus can beat Crono and then be first eliminated in the Battle Royale is insane. She will not only be first eliminated, but Crono will get 55% on her. I'm calling it. What's changed to make you think this, exactly? -=- You. WILL. Eat. Healthily! *Nails you with an assortment of vitamin-rich vegetables* |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 4:34:30 PM | message detail |
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| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 4:46:40 PM | message detail |
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| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 4:47:10 PM | message detail |
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I still don't get the "Sub-Zero and Scorpion will be nearly identical
in strength" argument. Why, exactly? Because they have a similar
design? So do Ken and Ryu! They don't perform anywhere close to the
same. And Sub-Zero and Scorpion have always had a different moveset.
Until around Super Street Fighter II, Ryu and Ken shared the exact same
moveset with some very slight differences. Plus, Mortal Kombat is more storyline-oriented than Street Fighter since it went 3D and all, which has to count for something. That just makes the disparity between the two larger. People who vote for Scorpion won't automatically vote for Sub-Zero, or vice-versa. Even on this board, there are people who like Ryu a lot more than Ken (like me) and vice-versa (like HM). Just having a similar design does not guarantee similar popularity. Sub-Zero is on my top 25 favorite characters list, and Scorpion's not anywhere near it. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 8/31/2006 4:52:46 PM | message detail |
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Okay, one thing I never knew, but wanted to ask: how are X-Stats
adjusted for "Base Link"? How is it that it seems all characters are
increasing in strength? More importantly, how can they possibly be
certain or dependable? This is related to Zelda/Aeris, where I assume many people are guessing Aeris simply because with the adjusted X-Stats, it seems very plausible. I think Aeris is stronger than what credit is being given. -=- You. WILL. Eat. Healthily! *Nails you with an assortment of vitamin-rich vegetables* |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/31/2006 4:53:35 PM | message detail |
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This probably sounds insulting though my intent is innocent: I bet Leonhart has Subby > MC in his bracket, heh. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 4:55:47 PM | message detail |
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I don't pick my favorites as much as one likes to think. At first, I
had Master Chief without even thinking about it, but as I looked
through some past results, I realized Sub-Zero had a chance. It's
called a risk, baby. And I don't know why people are picking on me for doing this...I didn't take Luigi to win his four-pack last year or this year, unlike a certain RPGuy... --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:04:42 PM | message detail |
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I feel like saying something on Phoenix Wright/Gordon Freeman. Sorta
like MC, I'm almost to the point where I don't think Gordon has a
consistent value. He did so well on a good midcarder like Leon Kennedy,
and as a result, he ends up overrated in the overall stats. But I still don't think Phoenix Wright has much of a chance. I think Gordon could beat CATS, and AYB is a bigger and more universal fad than "Objection!" will ever hope to be. That's where a large portion of Phoenix's votes will come from, and it'll never beat out All Your Base. Due to his inconsistency, he might not blow out Phoenix Wright, but he'll win without much trouble. ...Then he'll break 40% on Sora, and Phoenix Wright will look halfway decent. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:05:52 PM | message detail |
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I think Gordon could beat CATS I'd disagree with that, personally. <_< --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:07:52 PM | message detail |
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I never said he would, but he could. It'd be close. There's no way CATS beats him worse than Sam or Max. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:08:52 PM | message detail |
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I don't think it'd be close at all. Face CATS is projected to score Ulti-style blowouts on all of GF's pre-2005 values. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:11:19 PM | message detail |
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SC2K5 Face CATS? Oh, you mean the one that faced Master Chief. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:11:54 PM | message detail |
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I was actually referring to Villains Contest CATS. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| Pikawil100 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:14:01 PM | message detail |
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There's no way CATS beats him worse than Sam and Max. (Sarcasm) You mean that dog and wabbit? But they were in no contest before! But then again, they actually started as comics, ala Strider who was originally a manga... --- Ken: Ryu, do you tattle Bison's ass so hard? Ryu: HA DOU, KEN! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:14:57 PM | message detail |
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I was actually referring to Villains Contest CATS. Oh, the Villains Contest CATS who was in the division of the Ganondorf that broke 40% on Sephiroth. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/31/2006 5:16:07 PM | message detail |
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I'm thinkin' about Sub-Zero myself, it's just a certain way you carry
your posts from time to time -- on top of already knowing you like
Sub-Zero -- that made me say that. I do want to put Sub-Zero higher the more I look at it, but I'm cautious about gettin' him TOO close to Ryu. At 24%, Sub-Zero should get 43.68% on Ryu. At 25%, Sub-Zero should get 45.5%...and I wouldn't like to go much higher than that, if at all. MC's lowest reasonable adjustment (no, I won't assume MC = unadjusted Frog) is his 2k3 level, which is about 24.38%...and at that pace, assuming neither Halo 2 nor the 360 helps him any with either favoritism nor influx since 2k3, MC would still get 48.76% on SZ if he was at 25%. Not that I think the 360 will help MC much, nor do I think Halo 2 did much of anything for him last year...but I feel like I'm already being generous with SZ and MC's match with Crono says that he should be well out of reach for SZ's peak, wherever that's at. I really want to take the Sub-Zero upset -- my heart is tellin' me to, man, and I like MC more than SZ -- but it's too big of a risk for me to go for when I try to look at it sensibly. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:16:36 PM | message detail |
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Oh, the Villains Contest CATS who was in the division of the Ganondorf that broke 40% on Sephiroth. Yeah, so did Bowser and VC Bowser is only projected to score 48% on SC2k5 Snake. Taking into account Solid ****, that's quite close to Bowser's performance on Snake. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 5:18:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, so did Bowser and VC Bowser is only projected to score 48% on SC2k5 Snake. The least squares on the VC is wrong. VC Bowser is above Mega Man. --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:19:12 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, so did Bowser and VC Bowser is only projected to score 48% on SC2k5 Snake Yeah, and Sephiroth owns him harder than he did during the Villains Contest. Something's wrong somewhere (and it's not Advent Children, folks). --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/31/2006 5:19:32 PM | message detail |
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The least squares on the VC is wrong. VC Bowser is above Mega Man. Ah, didn't realize that. My apologies then. --- Character Battle V Score - 0/0 points Current Prediction - Samus Aran vs. Nidoran F |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 5:24:34 PM | message detail |
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But going from losing to Alucard to beating him with over 57% in a
single year? That's almost as ridiculous as DK beating Vivi in a
rematch! Who says he loses to Alucard in 2k3? The only thing that suggests that is Tidus 2k4, and thanks to Link/Mega I'm inclined to believe he's underrated (I think MMAC boosted Mega a bit, he looked bloody fantastic up until that Link match). Not to mention that Ganondorf is almost indisputably the recipient of one of the biggest skyrockets ever. Even dividing them evenly between years, you get some pretty big boosts. I don't buy DK getting anything close to that, though. Especially given who he is, and what he's had as compared to G-dorf. And you really think that Tidus has been at exactly the same strength from 2k2 to 2k5? I think that Tidus dropped off between 2k3 and 2k4. The overrating wasn't that extreme. It'd be foolish to argue exact strength, but I see no reason for Tidus to take a MAJOR dive, or I'd expect the same out of Auron. A bit weaker, sure. But not anything insane. --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:24:45 PM | message detail |
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But back on MC/Sub-Zero, I'm not going to argue fervently for Subby's
chances. I know it's a longshot, but the longshots that pay off are
what win the contest. I've said from the beginning that I believe he'll
be noticeably stronger than Scorpion. It's just a matter of seeing if
it's enough to beat the Chief. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 5:26:42 PM | message detail |
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I just think it's silly to write off Subby's chances. I'm taking Chief
there (tentatively), but I wouldn't be shocked at the upset. As
compared to Auron/MC, where MC challenging him for even a second would
floor me. --- Commit it to memory. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:28:04 PM | message detail |
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Master Chief has a chance to beat Auron if: 1. Both of their 2005 values are legit (Auron's only .01% ahead), which assumes Samus's value is correct and she didn't SFF Ganon, and that MC didn't overperform on Crono 2. KHII does virtually nothing for Auron Both are stretches. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/31/2006 5:28:30 PM | message detail |
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Oh, the Villains Contest CATS who was in the division of the Ganondorf that broke 40% on Sephiroth. Why does everyone give the Villains contest so much flak? Aren't those stats using Sephiroth at 43% against Base Link? Or am I reading it wrong? We know Sephiroth is stronger than that, so don't the villain stats already take into account Ganon and Bowser overperformances? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/31/2006 5:30:38 PM | message detail |
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We know Sephiroth is stronger than that, so don't the villain stats already take into account Ganon and Bowser overperformances? Not necessarily. The extent of the overperformance is not known (at least in the case of Ganondorf). I certainly still believe it's possible that Ganon is not as strong as Bowser and that he overperformed to a larger extent due to it being the finals and him taking on Sephy after Bowser. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 5:31:14 PM | message detail |
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Yup, if anything their BL values underrate at least Bowser a tad
assuming he stayed constant. Though I don't buy CATS being as strong as
he looks even then (thanks Bacondorf). --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/31/2006 5:32:54 PM | message detail |
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And of course, as Leonhart states, there's no telling how much
Bowser/Ganondorf were overrated, if at all. If I were to retroactively
change the stats I'd adjust them by Sephy 2k5, which would show just
how badly overrated everyone is by them. Or maybe they, uh, dropped
from then to 2k5, who knows. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/31/2006 6:00:56 PM | message detail |
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Okay, one thing I never knew, but wanted to ask: how are X-Stats
adjusted for "Base Link"? How is it that it seems all characters are
increasing in strength? More importantly, how can they possibly be
certain or dependable? Okay, a lot to explain...hm... First of all, all characters are adjusted in relation to "base link" each year by taking all the characters that have participated in both of two consecutive contests, and do least squares using the x-stats of the previous year. So, if Mario, Luigi, and Bowser were the only ones to participate in 2K2 and 2K3 and the x-stats for Mario, Luigi, and Bowser were 40%, 30%, and 20% respectively in 2K2, and the raw x-stats for them in 2K3 were 20%, 15%, and 10% respectively, you simply double Mario/Luigi/Bowser's values in 2K3, which in turn doubles all the x-stats in 2K3. Now, for the question of why everyone is increasing? In my opinion, the x-stats of SC2K5 were adjusted slightly higher than it should've been (by like .5%), which could explain that a little bit. Another thing is that there's been both a "KH Factor" and a "Nintendo Boost." Many of the characters that repeatedly get into contests are Nintendo or Square (FF7 and later). It's odd how Nintendo and new-school Square have pretty much everyone in the dust since 2K2. It's almost as if GameFAQs is getting LESS mainstream as the years go by, even if the site has increased a bit in traffic over the years... though that's just kind of a theory I made up. Anyway, let's compare all the non-Nintendo/NS-Square characters that first appeared in either 2K2 or 2K3 (whichever's earlier) compared to their 2K5 values. [Character] - [2K5 stat] - [2K2/3 stat] Crono - 39.87% - 37.43% Mega Man - 38.79% - 39%* Sonic the Hedgehog - 38.50% - 37%* Solid Snake - 36.97% - 35.23% Dante - 32.73% - 25.02% Knuckles - 32.49% - 27.68% Zero - 32.09% - 33.28% Magus - 31.93% - 30%* Master Chief - 30.87% - 26.15% Ryu - 29.98% - 32%* Vercetti - 23.25% - 25.58% Alucard - 22.94% - 22.70% Gordon - 22.78% - 11.31% Kefka - 22.71% - 22.75%* Pac-Man - 22.28% - 20.30% Sam Fisher - 21.41% - 20%* KOS-MOS - 21.30% - 22.96% CATS - 19.24% - 13.30% Conker - 18.61% - 18.14% Vyse - 14.73% - 19.05% The ones with stars I adjusted myself, but watch out for CATS, Gordon, Sam Fisher, Magus, Knuckles, and Dante with their 2K5 values ...they're all possibly overrated. (+ many other things I failed to mention) Dante, Knuckles, Master Chief, Gordon, and CATS were about the only non-N/S characters to go up a lot...most stayed the about the same. Ryu, KOS-MOS, and Vercetti dropped some. I think it makes sense for Dante and MC to rise, since they were rather new characters in their first contest appearances, and needed some time to establish themselves. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/31/2006 6:05:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm not willing to argue Sub/MC yet, but I will say that my initial gut
pick was Sub-Zero. it's the only match that I'm completely up in the
air on in this bracket. I also will say that anything KH says I'm
likely going to agree with on this matter. Sub will definitely get more
on MC than MC would on Auron. --- xyzzy |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 8/31/2006 6:09:27 PM | message detail |
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What's the consensus on Kairi/Claire and The Boss/Celes? --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/31/2006 6:17:02 PM | message detail |
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Well, I guess Subby would be almost exactly as strong as Scorpion...
just cuz.... yeah.... those XBox games don't seem to be all that
popular here, but I guess it didn't hurt.... so Scorpion a little over
his 2K4 value? Heh, Auron. Intresting. So, 35%? Chief will break 35% on pre-KH2-Auron, so I feel comfortable with Chief. Unless of course all those new MK games got him pretty popular... Still, Subby could be loads more popular than Scorp, but I dunno.... I like Subby more personally. --- WiggedOut267 (Now 32.35% more... wigged out...) : Owned by Z1mmy Since 1987 Happily married to Alanna82 on VDay 2005 |
| WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/31/2006 6:17:36 PM | message detail |
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*would, will, was, whatever grammar works there. --- WiggedOut267 (Now 32.35% more... wigged out...) : Owned by Z1mmy Since 1987 Happily married to Alanna82 on VDay 2005 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/31/2006 6:19:02 PM | message detail |
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Chief breaks 40% on Auron with ease. well, I dunno about "ease", but he'll probably get 41 or 42. --- xyzzy |