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Heroic Mario | Posted 9/1/2006 1:30:50 PM | message detail
http://www.cubed3.com/media/2006/August/jb/octoberzelda.jpg

Hey, look, IGN hiding something!!

=p

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HaRRicH | Posted 9/1/2006 1:38:58 PM | message detail
Why did they leave that picture up on there if they're hiding it? That looks pretty deliberate...but, then again, I dunno the context of how ya found it and all that.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/1/2006 2:05:39 PM | message detail
By the way, what's wrong with Dante's placement? He probably underperformed aginst Sonic in 2K4 due to a terrible pic, and DMC3 was the DMC series' return to glory. No reason why he wouldn't get quite a boost from it.

More like he was overrated in 2k3 thanks to Solid ****.

He got, what, 5% from that? The game hadn't even sold that well at the time either.

Indeed, but it has certainly sold fairly well at this time. I'd be quite surprised to see Dante under his 2k5 level, regardless of how overrated he was.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/1/2006 2:14:42 PM | message detail
If he was overrated in 2k3, it would have shown in 2k4.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 3:37:21 PM | message detail
From PartOfYourWorld Posted 9/1/2006 3:40:37 PM #411
One of the main things that screams "overrated" about Vincent is Dante's placement last year. I just don't buy it.

lol, X-Stats.

Things happen mid-contest that stats don't reflect. 200,000 people watching AC before Vincent/Crono is one of those things.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/1/2006 3:57:25 PM | message detail
What do you guys think about there being a female and a male half of the bracket every year?
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 9/1/2006 3:58:38 PM | message detail
I'd rather it wasn't male half/female half, but male and female alternating divisions.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 9/1/2006 4:04:23 PM | message detail
Things happen mid-contest that stats don't reflect. 200,000 people watching AC before Vincent/Crono is one of those things.

So... you agree with me?
Master Moltar | Posted 9/1/2006 4:06:00 PM | message detail
What do you guys think about there being a female and a male half of the bracket every year?

I think I'd have to go kill some people to vent.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 4:07:18 PM | message detail
So... you agree with me?

I thought you were saying Vincent is overrated. The rest of his division.... eh, probably.







Riku (2005) has a strength of 24.13 against Base Link.
Jill Valentine (2004) has a strength of 22.13 against Base Link.


Riku 54.14% 51,595
Jill Valentine 45.86% 43,697
TOTAL VOTES 95,292

OH SNAP.

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Pikawil100 | Posted 9/1/2006 4:12:37 PM | message detail
For all you Yoshi lovers, I'd like to remind you that Devil May Cry 2 went Greatest Hits since the last contest. Oh yeah, baby. Seriously though, DMC3 has doubled it's sales since the last contest with the help of SE, and now DMC2 is going GH? Boost baby, boost!

But Yoshi has Yoshi's Island 2--- Oh wait, it's gonna be released in Novemner.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/1/2006 4:16:09 PM | message detail
I think we're going to have these male/female brackets every year from now on. It just feels weird to suddenly have 22 females gone the next year.

Or not. >_>
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/1/2006 4:18:51 PM | message detail
Doubt it, this is pretty much a one time thing to breathe some life back into the contest, at least from the casual standpoint. We should be back to normal next year.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/1/2006 4:20:25 PM | message detail
Funny that I should check the stats topic on some Yoshi news. I'm in the midst of moving in to my dorm/last minute getaway so I haven't been able to keep up with the past two or three topics, for anyone who's interested. In other news, I will be trying to run Spread Betting for those in here who participate (more of you will this contest, wee), but it might be a little touch and go as I try to settle in to my freshman year. We'll see how it goes.

Anyway, Yoshi will beat Dante, it will be his crowning achievement in contest history. It shall be done. Oh, and just for the sheer point of saying them (and I don't even remember if they were this year or last year) Yoshi has had 2 ds games for what it's worth: Yoshi's Topsy Turvy and Yoshi Touch and Go. Hey, if Phoenix Wright's games can help him....yoshi's will carry him over Dante.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 4:39:59 PM | message detail
I doubt Yoshi even needs the help, given that he's been behind SFF in the stats every single year. If Dante isn't overrated, then he scores 44.79% on Bowser last year. Yoshi scored 1% less on Bowser in an SFF match. Dante needs to hope that Bowser massively overperformed on Snake if he wants to win that match.

Call it bias or whatever, but I think Yoshi would be around Zelda's level if he would ever actually get into the stats without being SFFd. 52-48 over Dante, bay-bee.

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Haste_2 | Posted 9/1/2006 4:47:49 PM | message detail
I'm glad you're covering the Spread Betting Contest, FF. I was waiting for it since the bracket came out(otherwise I woulda started it). =p

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 9/1/2006 4:48:17 PM | message detail
Call it bias or whatever, but I think Yoshi would be around Zelda's level if he would ever actually get into the stats without being SFFd. 52-48 over Dante, bay-bee.

That would be amazingly awesome and would make me very happy. I doubt it though, and just in thinking about it for three seconds, they both have matches with Mega Man, but that doesn't necessarily rule out they could be near equals, because of the sff.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2006 5:12:01 PM | message detail
That would be amazingly awesome and would make me very happy. I doubt it though, and just in thinking about it for three seconds, they both have matches with Mega Man,

Dante has lost to Crono, Ryu, Sonic, and Vincent. No Mega Man match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/1/2006 5:13:02 PM | message detail
Dante's never faced Mega Man. I think the only common opponent they've ever had was Ryo Hazuki, where Dante barely did better in 2k3 than Yoshi in 2k4.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 9/1/2006 5:19:59 PM | message detail
He was talking about Zelda/Mega Man.
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gregskywalker | Posted 9/1/2006 5:33:49 PM | message detail
Ryu (Street Fighter) OR Kratos (God of War)
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omegamanGXE | Posted 9/1/2006 5:44:57 PM | message detail
Best topic ever.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/1/2006 6:07:44 PM | message detail
If he was overrated in 2k3, it would have shown in 2k4.

But...it did.
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KingBartz | Posted 9/1/2006 6:34:01 PM | message detail
I think we're going to have these male/female brackets every year from now on. It just feels weird to suddenly have 22 females gone the next year.

Aw, hell naw.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/1/2006 7:02:03 PM | message detail
In what match(es)?
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/1/2006 7:22:32 PM | message detail
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Big Bob | Posted 9/1/2006 7:39:50 PM | message detail
Okay, does anyone have any idea why so many people think Bowser/Leon is a tossup? I've seen so many topics about it, and it's a goddamn lock. Bowser > Crono has a greater chance of happening than Leon > Bowser.
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/1/2006 7:41:32 PM | message detail
Okay, does anyone have any idea why so many people think Bowser/Leon is a tossup? I've seen so many topics about it, and it's a goddamn lock. Bowser > Crono has a greater chance of happening than Leon > Bowser.

RE4 on the PS2? It sold better than the GC version... still he'd need a 8%+ boost... I don't see it happening, but if Leon was given a different opponent slightly above him in the stats, it would have been awwwwwwwwesome.
shadow8021 | Posted 9/1/2006 7:50:07 PM | message detail
Man, it'd be awesome to see Bowser upset Crono.
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Sir Bormun | Posted 9/1/2006 7:52:51 PM | message detail
I just can't see Bowser jumping from "unable to beat Snake" to "able to beat Crono." But with the huge boom in vote totals from 2005 to 2006, I guess a demographic shift's always possible...
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/1/2006 7:54:31 PM | message detail
You'll find that, that huge boost won't be prevalent in this contest.
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2006 7:54:38 PM | message detail
I just can't see Bowser jumping from "unable to beat Snake" to "able to beat Crono."

You act as though Snake and Crono are worlds apart. And even if they were, the gap between Bowser and Leon is a damn galaxy.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/1/2006 7:56:01 PM | message detail
It doesn't seem like SC2k5 was a full-year ago...
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/1/2006 7:56:26 PM | message detail
I find stranger that Crono would jump from "able to beat Mario" to "unable to beat Bowser."
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/1/2006 7:57:10 PM | message detail
Good thing Crono hasn't moved!
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SowlLikesMen | Posted 9/1/2006 7:58:12 PM | message detail
Not in an upward direction anyway!
RPGuy96 | Posted 9/1/2006 7:59:42 PM | message detail
Eh, that depends on how you want to measure. He certainly fell relative to, well, most of the Noble Nine, and Bowser, over the last two years.
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therealmnm | Posted 9/1/2006 8:07:58 PM | message detail
Eh, that depends on how you want to measure. He certainly fell relative to, well, most of the Noble Nine, and Bowser, over the last two years.

Well that "most" of the Noble Nine consist of the Nintendo characters and Sonic increasing. Looking at Snake and Mega Man, Crono has been pretty consistent when put against them.
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 9/1/2006 8:12:43 PM | message detail
Looking at Snake and Mega Man, Crono has been pretty consistent when put against them.


You mean in comparison to them and their results on common opponents, right? Because he can't really be consistent against them in a match when he's only had one match against either of them...
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KingBartz | Posted 9/1/2006 9:29:19 PM | message detail
Leon will defeat Bowser before Bowser beats Crono. Bowser sufferers from... well.. suckiness.

That being said, Crono > Bowser > Leon


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Draco1214 | Posted 9/1/2006 9:30:10 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Jill breaks 55% on Peach.
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KingBartz | Posted 9/1/2006 9:32:09 PM | message detail
BOLDER PREDICTION: Jill breaks 60% on Peach.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/1/2006 9:37:20 PM | message detail
I'm still finding Zero vs Kirby hard, I mean, Zero did underperform in all of his matches, though, Hayabusa could have gained and Wesker was against Angel Kefka. Mario could have SFF'd him, as well.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 9:39:27 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/1/2006 9:39:53 PM | message detail
From UltimaterializerX Posted 9/2/2006 12:39:27 AM #494
BOLDEST PREDICTION: Peach will break 60% on Jill.

Fixed.

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Incompetence | Posted 9/1/2006 9:40:56 PM | message detail
*agrees with Ulti because it's the right thing to do*
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/1/2006 9:41:03 PM | message detail
BOLDESTEST PREDICTION: Sheena breaks 70% on Daisy.

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/1/2006 9:43:13 PM | message detail
BOLDEST PREDICTION IN THE TOPIC: Phoenix Wright becomes the first of GF's opponents to break 60% on him.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/1/2006 9:43:56 PM | message detail
Boldestest > Boldest Prediction in the topic.

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swirIdude | Posted 9/1/2006 9:44:25 PM | message detail
AAAAAAH!
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