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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:24:08 PM | message detail
I'm sure Zelda is going to make that match much closer than it is projected or even anticipated to be, but Zelda winning is pretty much impossible.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 5:24:29 PM | message detail
From Karma Hunter Posted 8/29/2006 8:22:39 PM #048
Seeing as how you think Zelda is cleanly below Ganondorf Ulti, could you really imagine Zelda erasing a deficit of at LEAST 60% against Samus with TP? Zelda will need to supplant Link before I take that upset.

(It's wishful thinking, sweetheart.)

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:24:46 PM | message detail
Post-TP!

Post-SSBB/MGS4!

Well, maybe MGS4.


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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:25:50 PM | message detail
How is it the (adjusted) Xstats have Zelda > Ganon anyhow? What matches here were screwy?


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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:26:25 PM | message detail
What matches here were screwy?

What's up, Ganon/Samus and Mario/Samus.

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Who Cares? | Posted 8/29/2006 5:26:31 PM | message detail
This "Hi I'm Daisy!" thing.... where's it from and can I hear a clip anywhere? I seriously don't get the fad at all.

It's in Mario Kart: Double Dash. Anytime you swap drivers and have Daisy in the back, she goes "Hi I'm Daisy!" I'll see if I can find a sound clip.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:26:31 PM | message detail
This "Hi I'm Daisy!" thing.... where's it from and can I hear a clip anywhere? I seriously don't get the fad at all.

I'M VERY GLAD YOU ASKED!!!

"Hi I'm Daisy!" comes from Mario Kart: Double Dash, where when you play as Daisy and come in first, she will yell out, "Hi I'm Daisy!" as her winning taunt. It's deliciously random and makes no sense whatsoever. She also has a tendency to yell out "Hi!" when she passes people in a race.

Between that, being Peach's hottest skin in SSBM, SML, and being just about the only brown face in the entire Marioverse (though she lost her 'tan' a little while ago thanks to Nintendo being jerks), Daisy is clearly superior to Peach, and I encourage all to vote for her come that match.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:27:31 PM | message detail
Man, Daisy is going to compete with Nidoran F as this contest's Neo-Tanner. She's going to get SFF'd hard by Peach.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:27:33 PM | message detail
I encourage everyone to ignore what Karma Hunter just suggested for how vile it is.

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:27:53 PM | message detail
Ganon/Samus.... that match alone made me rethink about my trust in... well... a lot of characters.... but that and Mario/Samus even after SFF was adjusted?



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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:29:01 PM | message detail
What's up, Ganon/Samus and Mario/Samus.

Adjusted Mario/Samus still has Ganon below Zelda. As for the other match...well, I've heard it said from more than a few people that Samus can't SFF anything.

We'll see. Frankly, I think Vincent and Ganon could both be overrated from where people anticipate them being, which could still happily result in a good match.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 5:29:39 PM | message detail
Peach's hottest skin in SSBM

Is her wedding dress. I seriously see it so much that Peach in pink doesn't even look right to me anymore.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:29:42 PM | message detail
Even after Mario/Samus SFF adjustments, Vincent is still stronger than Ganon. It all depends on how much SFF was Samus/Ganon and if you think Vincent is overrated. Regardless, Vincent still has AC and DoC to back him up and I think that'll be enough to take down Ganon.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:29:43 PM | message detail
What about this? All those "special" guys who are the "Luigi > Mario" uh..... believers....... maybe they can use the same argument for Daisy > P-hahahahahah I can't even finish my sentence!



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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2006 5:30:19 PM | message detail
I just don't get the need to respond to every single point you disagree with. You're like... a classier 2005 Lasa at times. I don't get it.

Leonhart does seem to go around the board finding people to shoot down. He seems to disagree with people more than he makes his own arguments! Not that I mind at all. =P I don't think it's worth calling him out as a stats topic elitist...
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:30:25 PM | message detail
Ganon/Samus.... that match alone made me rethink about my trust in... well... a lot of characters.... but that and Mario/Samus even after SFF was adjusted?

Nothing was ever adjusted in CN's stats for Ganon/Samus, which is why I have made it my mission to spread the "Adjust Ganon by 2%!" for a while now. There's no way he's equal to Tifa or loses to Zelda at indirect strength...and he's right around Dante, too, which is just crazy.

But the value Samus was given shows a decrease from 2004 because there was that whole "Samus is not indirectly stronger than Mario" deal that went on. So those two matches are what underrate -- get that overrated nonsense out of there << -- Ganon by the stats.

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:31:46 PM | message detail
Peach's hottest skin in SSBM

Is her wedding dress. I seriously see it so much that Peach in pink doesn't even look right to me anymore.



My friend has Action Replay, and when he uses it on SSBM, if you play as Peach and taunt, she uh........ loses her dress....

Seriously, XD. Apparenty though she wears shorts under her dress.

AR is screwy in general, any taunting makes any player able to control the camera with the C-Stick..... not that I ever use the C-Stick in SSBM. >_>


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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:32:37 PM | message detail
Meh, I've had my fair share of mostly unaccepted ideas, and for being a so-called stat lover, I pick more statistical upsets than most people do.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/29/2006 5:33:18 PM | message detail
Why do people think Zelda might be playable in TP? Were there any hints towards it? Would Nintendo ever do anything that awesome? I bet she just sits in that tower the whole time, and ruins all the amazing potential she could have.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:33:33 PM | message detail
Adjusted Mario/Samus still has Ganon below Zelda. As for the other match...well, I've heard it said from more than a few people that Samus can't SFF anything.

I've seen the adjustment that makes Samus weaker compared to her previous self, but that doesn't necessarily make it right. I'm certainly not going to bother opening that can again, but Mario/Samus is an interesting little piece. And I believe the whole "Samus can't SFF anything" like I believe "Mega Man SFFs Nintendo." (ie., I don't.)

We'll see. Frankly, I think Vincent and Ganon could both be overrated from where people anticipate them being, which could still happily result in a good match.

It'll definitely be a good match, no doubt about it. I think it'll be the highlight of round 1.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 5:33:54 PM | message detail
Apparenty though she wears shorts under her dress

I have a picture of her dress being blown up in Icicle Mountain. She wears underwear that look like shorts, which are seriously the cutest kind.

I don't think it's worth calling him out as a stats topic elitist...

I said that I was sorry and just tired, jeez. I'm not lying, either. I've been awake since 1 a.m., and before that I was awake for about 26 hours straight.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:34:45 PM | message detail
She carried a sword in some artwork! THAT GUARANTEES PLAYABILITY!

They're just hyping Midna being playable more because that kind of additional hype would kill their devoted fans. Or something.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:34:50 PM | message detail
Why do people think Zelda might be playable in TP? Were there any hints towards it?

The artwork Nintendo released showed her with a sword.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 5:35:25 PM | message detail
I think it'll be the highlight of round 1.

And if it's dead even at the beginning, Vincent is in trouble I think. Zelda likes to rip FF to shreds during the day :(

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 5:36:03 PM | message detail
And if it's dead even at the beginning, Vincent is in trouble I think. Zelda likes to rip FF to shreds during the day

I approve!

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:36:46 PM | message detail
Samus needs to have the same taste in "Under-dress clothing" as Peach.


Ah, the good old days of SSB. Who didn't take Pikachu and Samus, have Pikachu shock her, and then pause at the right time? Goooooood times.....


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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:39:47 PM | message detail
Actually, I would be interested to see which way the SFF would go in a battle like Ganondorf vs. Zelda. I probably couldn't call it, but SFF just baffles me in general.


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Lopen | Posted 8/29/2006 5:45:47 PM | message detail
Just tried to sorta catch up on these. Wow, Kairi v Claire is debatable, eh? I know Claire probably fell, but much like Peach, I expect Kairi to flop because she isn't that interesting.

Sora > Riku >> Claire > Ansem ~= Axel > Kairi, by the way. That's the way I see it.

And I too shall be voting Daisy, KH! "Hi I'm Daisy!" > Peach! Oh yeah!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:47:15 PM | message detail
*throws in some disagreement somewhere for the sake of disagreeing out of bias and not because I can legitimately argue it*

...Or something. Besides, it's not like I have any original ideas.

But Ganon would probably SFF Zelda or whatever, but not by a lot.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2006 5:49:12 PM | message detail
...Or something. Besides, it's not like I have any original ideas.

Nobody said you didn't have any original ideas. I was just mentioning how it always seems like you're disagreeing with someone. But I've picked on you before about that. Stop being sensitive! :-/
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:49:38 PM | message detail
More like people are always disagreeing with me!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:50:51 PM | message detail
You gotta get a schtick, Leon. Me, I got Mega Man > Samus (and while I don't think he'll make it to her, if he does I'm sure he'll win). I also totally laugh at anyone who thinks Dante/Yoshi is a debatable match. WOO I'm being elitist look at me go! *dances*

BOLD PREDICTION: If Luigi beats Zero, Snake beats Mega Man.

BOLD PREDICTION: If Dante beats Yoshi, Cloud beats Link. Yes, this is how much of a non-issue this match is for me.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:51:41 PM | message detail
Awesome! Cloud beats Link!

And here I was thinking you were saying Dante/Yoshi was not debatable for Dante!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:52:35 PM | message detail
And my schtick has always been Sonic, dude. Haven't you been paying attention?!
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Lopen | Posted 8/29/2006 5:53:10 PM | message detail
Psh, they disagree with you? You're not in my league, Leonhart.

BOLD PREDICTION: Yoshi was overadjusted last year, Dante will beat him with ease, and even Riku will come damn close!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:54:37 PM | message detail
With Smurf around, having Sonic as an upset pick doesn't garner attention like it should. I mean, if you were arguing Squall > Snake (and there can be arguments formulated for it, if you choose to believe certain things), it would be mucho awesome.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:55:16 PM | message detail
...Well, I agree with Dante winning fairly easily. And yes, I know what that implies.

BOLD PREDICTION: Sub-Zero comes within 5% of Master Chief!

And maybe even wins, but that might be a bit TOO bold.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 5:55:29 PM | message detail
This is true, I've changed my mind on two matches this year already because of who Lopen had.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:56:10 PM | message detail
I mean, if you were arguing Squall > Snake (and there can be arguments formulated for it, if you choose to believe certain things), it would be mucho awesome.

I was one of the people who first mentioned the idea of a Snake/Squall overperformance, so...If I just believed Squall was that weak back in 2002, perhaps.

But alas!
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 5:57:37 PM | message detail
ITALIC PREDICTION: If Sheena beats Jill, I will eat my pants.

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Lopen | Posted 8/29/2006 5:57:46 PM | message detail
How do you know what I have? I've been very mum when it's come to this topic so far this year!

... curses, I'm expending bold predictions that go in my topic here! You'll get no more from me!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 5:59:43 PM | message detail
Besides, there aren't very many interesting and/or worthwhile things to align myself with that haven't been taken already. I've already gotten the Sonic wins round 2 with ease down, but beyond that...

I'd love to argue for an Amy Rose victory over KOS-MOS, but...I really wouldn't know where to start with that one.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 6:01:51 PM | message detail
"AMY ROSE IS HERE! =) <3"


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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 6:01:55 PM | message detail
I'd love to argue for an Amy Rose victory over KOS-MOS, but...I really wouldn't know where to start with that one.

Who is Amy Rose?

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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/29/2006 6:02:28 PM | message detail
Only the most adorable pink hedgehog ever!
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/29/2006 6:03:17 PM | message detail
Seriously though, I'm surprised she made it into the contest at all, much less with a 6 seed.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 6:03:32 PM | message detail
Who is Amy Rose?

First round fodder that will get crushed by KOS-MOS.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/29/2006 6:04:03 PM | message detail
Crushed? Surely you jest!
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 6:04:08 PM | message detail
Ouch! That one hury, Ulti. =(

AMY ROSE IS HERE!

Let me show you my real power!!


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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2006 6:05:55 PM | message detail
Hey, Amy Rose will outdo Crash Bandicoot!!!!!
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