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marioinblack | Posted 8/30/2006 5:24:39 PM | message detail
What's the line on the Kratos/Ryu match? I haven't heard much discussion of this one.

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therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2006 5:25:56 PM | message detail
Kratos/Ryu discussion? Por que?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/30/2006 5:26:51 PM | message detail
Kratos did pretty decent on Alucard last year, but hes not gonna be winning a match against Ryu.
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/30/2006 5:27:18 PM | message detail
I personally think Ryu would beat Alucard, and Alucard already beat Kratos, so there ya go.
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marioinblack | Posted 8/30/2006 5:28:23 PM | message detail
I had Ryu in my bracket, just makin' sure.

Thanks.

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/30/2006 5:28:49 PM | message detail
Kratos (2005c) VS Ryu (2005c)

Kratos has a strength of 20.40.
Ryu has a strength of 29.98.

Ryu wins with 65.98% of the vote!
A win of 28,290 with 88,532 total votes cast.

Of course, Kratos is underrated due to Snake/Sora, but yeah. Anyway, Ryu > Alucard > Kratos.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2006 5:29:05 PM | message detail
Kratos with 43+%, but I'm not goin' to get too optimistic about his chances.
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/30/2006 5:29:41 PM | message detail
I'd say Kratos barely breaks 40%.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2006 5:51:59 PM | message detail
Still catching up with the topic, but I'd like to make one more note about Big Boss: why do you all think he got into the contest in 2k5? He certainly got more nominations than he did any other year, despite Ocelot also making it in as a high seed. I have no doubt that this was due to MGS3 fans nominating "Big Boss", especially after CJayC's recent revelations about not counting spelling mistakes/alternate names - so, "Big Boss" got more nominations that "Naked Snake" did.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/30/2006 6:19:40 PM | message detail
I made a list of how I think the strength line goes for these guys (Like, how I would pick one or another probably, keeping SFF to a minimun unless it's well due or proven, etc.)

So, this is only for the male half of the bracket....


Crono
Sonic
Mega Man
Snake
Ganon
Bowser
Vince
Squall
Kirby
Zero
Yoshi
Sora
Auron
Luigi
Tidus (Yeah, maybe switch Auron and Tidus, so sue me =P)
Ryu (SF)
Chiefy
Dante
Alucard
Kratos
Riku
Leon
Sub-0
Capt. Falcon
Hayabusa
Prince of Persia
Axel
Soma
Gordon
Phoenix
CATS
Tingle


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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/30/2006 6:28:25 PM | message detail
(Go beat the second dungeon of the Dark World in Link to the Past and listen to what the maiden there has to say!)

I prefer to take a look at more recent games, such as The Wind Waker. The game often goes back and forth calling him Ganondorf and Ganon. I'd have to go search for it, but there was an interview with Miyamoto post-OoT that said neither name is attached to a particular form.

So, in short, lol alttp (Love the game!!)

(Oh, and Seven Wisemen? Not in the GBA version of ALttP!!)


What's the line on the Kratos/Ryu match? I haven't heard much discussion of this one.

That's because Ryu is much stronger than Kratos. Now, Kratos is a bit underrated because of the whole Snake/Sora affair and his game as sold over 500,000+ copies since he was last in the contest, but it's a bit too much for him to overcome. He should make the match closer than what the stats say by a good bit though.

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/30/2006 6:31:16 PM | message detail
Bank on Alucardy getting a nice boost from DoS?


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Tediz247 | Posted 8/30/2006 6:32:57 PM | message detail
Alucard probably will get a boost from DoS, but nothing compared to what Auron will get from KH2.

...man, Alucard was really wasted too.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/30/2006 6:34:11 PM | message detail
Bank on Alucardy getting a nice boost from DoS?

Except for that KH2 thing in Auron's corner.

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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/30/2006 6:34:50 PM | message detail
More like.

MM
Crono
Sonic
Snake
Ganon
Bowser
Vince
Squall
Yoshi
Luigi
Zero
Kirby
Auron
Dante
Ryu
Tidus
Chiefy
Riku
Alucard
Leon
Kratos
Axel
Sub-0
Capt. Falcon
Hayabusa
Prince of Persia
GFNWETT (GFNW except this time)
Soma
Phoenix
CATS
Tingle
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Tirofog | Posted 8/30/2006 6:42:07 PM | message detail
So... two questions:
- Is TP still coming out the same day as the Wii? (I remember hearing that somewhere...)
- And when is the Wii rumored to come out? I've heard October... but again, some solid info would be nice.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/30/2006 6:42:41 PM | message detail
Luigi
Zero
Kirby



vs.

Kirby
Zero
Luigi


It's like the song.....

"Sonic.......... Sonic will Tear us apart........... Again...."
By: Blast Division.

Certainly not a copyright infringement.

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/30/2006 6:44:56 PM | message detail
Except for that KH2 thing in Auron's corner.

Oh, I'm not implying Cardy has a shot or anything, I'm just saying I think he can do pretty well for himself.

40ish%, a little more.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2006 6:45:22 PM | message detail
There may be not be that much difficulty involved, especially after you figure everything out (Light Arrows are not even necessary to get behind him, but Lord I love shooting him in the face with those), but final boss fights and difficulty usually aren't frequent occurrences.

You know, I don't think I ever realized that you could use Light Arrows on Ganon. And I always wondered why everyone thought he was such an easy boss fight...
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 6:47:26 PM | message detail
More like

Kirby
Luigi
Zero

and

Crono
Snake
Sonic
Megaman
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/30/2006 6:47:48 PM | message detail
Well, looking at Ganon's matches against Alucard and Auron, it should be within 60-40, factoring boosts and such.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/30/2006 6:49:01 PM | message detail
You know, I don't think I ever realized that you could use Light Arrows on Ganon. And I always wondered why everyone thought he was such an easy boss fight...

I just used the Longshot.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2006 6:49:53 PM | message detail
Because it's a SFF match. There's a reason why virtually every Nintendo, and *especially* every MARIO character boosted like crazy last year. You want me to buy Mario, Bowser, Luigi all boosting heavily...but Yoshi gets kicked to the wayside? Why?

All the pre-SNES characters, you mean. And no, Yoshi's Cookie doesn't make Yoshi pre-SNES. >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2006 6:51:33 PM | message detail
Then Peach'll kick some ass!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/30/2006 6:55:54 PM | message detail
- Is TP still coming out the same day as the Wii? (I remember hearing that somewhere...)

Indeed. Twilight Princess is actually the first Zelda game to launch with one of Nintendo's new consoles.

(It's also the first Zelda game to get an expected T rating!! )

- And when is the Wii rumored to come out? I've heard October... but again, some solid info would be nice.

Multiple things point to a late October launch right now. Nintendo is expected to announce the date/price/official launch lineup around September 14th -- two days after the bracket closes.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2006 6:58:30 PM | message detail
Then Peach'll kick some ass!

Indeed. The Nintendo boost is one of the main things that keeps me from considering Jill > Peach (or even Chun Li > Peach) as a possibility.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/30/2006 7:19:10 PM | message detail
My turn

Crono
Sonic
Mega Man
Snake
Vincent
Ganondorf
Bowser
Squall
Yoshi
Kirby
Auron
Luigi
Zero
Sora
Dante
Master Chief
Tidus
Ryu (SF)
Alucard
Leon
Riku
Kratos
Sub-Zero
Ryu Hayabusa
Captain Falcon
Prince of Persia
Axel
Gordon Freeman
Soma
Phoenix
CATS
Tingle

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/30/2006 7:21:27 PM | message detail
charmander6000

Kirby
Auron
Luigi
Zero



=), I feel so much better about Kirby > Zero now.

(Yup, Zero not Luigi =P)

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 7:22:52 PM | message detail
Tomb Raider: Legend is the seventh game in the Tomb Raider series. Published by Eidos Interactive, this is the first game in the series not to be handled by British based Core Design, developed instead by U.S. studio Crystal Dynamics. It was released in Europe on April 7, 2006 and was released North America on April 11, 2006 for the PS2, PC, Xbox, and Xbox 360. The PSP version was released on June 20, 2006 and the GameCube, Game Boy Advance and the Nintendo DS will be released in fall 2006.

WTF GCN,GBA, and NINTENDO DS FALL 2006

NINTENDOFAQS

LARA CROFT > CHUN LI

FLAWLESS LOGIC
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/30/2006 7:24:41 PM | message detail
Kirby/Zero/Luigi could go any way.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/30/2006 7:26:25 PM | message detail
My own list for the 64 males:

1) Crono
2) Mega Man
3) Sonic
4) Solid Snake
5) Bowser
6) Vincent Valentine
7) Squall Leonhart
8) Ganondorf
9) Auron
10) Zero
11) Sora
12) Kirby
13) Dante
14) Yoshi
15) Luigi
16) Ryu (SF)
17) Tidus
18) Alucard
19) Master Chief
20) Leon Kennedy
21) Riku
22) Sub-Zero
23) Ryu Hayabusa
24) Kratos (GoW)
25) Prince of Persia
26) Captain Falcon
27) Soma Cruz
28) Axel
29) Phoenix Wright
30) CATS
31) Gordon Freeman
32) Tingle
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Tirofog | Posted 8/30/2006 7:28:58 PM | message detail
Ah, thanks. I feel much better about having Vincent > Ganondorf now. ^_^
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 7:29:26 PM | message detail

1) Crono
2) Mega Man
3) Sonic
4) Solid Snake


You seriously can't think this is going to play out exactly like last year with the top 4. Especially when the first 3 are seperated by a couple thousand votes.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/30/2006 7:51:55 PM | message detail
You seriously can't think this is going to play out exactly like last year with the top 4. Especially when the first 3 are seperated by a couple thousand votes.

Casual bracket people are huge fans of just taking whoever won the more recent match in something and voting that way.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/30/2006 7:53:40 PM | message detail
Hmmm...but with how close Sonic/Mega Man turned out, I might have to switch their spots. Other than that, I'm fairly confident Crono will win the male bracket and Snake will place 4th on the males side.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 7:53:43 PM | message detail

Casual bracket people are huge fans of just taking whoever won the more recent match in something and voting that way.


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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/30/2006 7:58:16 PM | message detail
You seriously can't think this is going to play out exactly like last year with the top 4. Especially when the first 3 are seperated by a couple thousand votes.

That's horrible logic. Just because it happened once, doesn't mean it can't happen again.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/30/2006 9:08:52 PM | message detail
Well besides Link, how many rematches go the other way around?

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Keno316 | Posted 8/30/2006 9:09:28 PM | message detail
Well besides Link, how many rematches go the other way around?


Mario/Crono?
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 8/30/2006 9:17:25 PM | message detail
Looking at Dante/Yoshi more seriously, it's only logical to put Yoshi anywhere from .5 to 1.5% higher than Dante... still nothing close to being decisive. Dante has had DMC3:SE since the last contest, which sold like crap, but could possibly give him the smallest of boosts. I have no idea if the Nintendo boost is going to stop this year, though I think it should. The site being so heavily pro-Wii doesn't make me think the site is getting even more "lol NintendoFAQs"ish, just that the Wii has been more impressive than anything Nintendo has put out there for a looooooong time. Anyway, it's going to be close as **** I think, and I have had Dante since I first looked at the bracket, and I've been uneasy as hell about it since, and I still am. But when it's 50/50, I think I have to just let my fanboyism take control, and go Dante.

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 8/30/2006 9:30:00 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'm totally starting a Naked Snake nomination rally next year. I want to start it now, but then I'd have to keep track of it for an entire goddamn year, and we all know that's not gonna happen, though PoP army almost lasted that long (damn Tennis & School & Work not leaving any time for me here). Because honestly, we have elite status character right thurr, and even if not, at least an upper midcarder. It's not like it's a cheap ripoff like Dark Samus either, so I don't see how Ceej can deny him getting in, although he could always pull a MMX, but then we'd all say darn you cjay and that would fix everything. Okay I'm really starting to ramble, but goddamit you all better nominate.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2006 9:35:10 PM | message detail
I think I would nominate him.
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ExplicitAriel | Posted 8/30/2006 9:36:43 PM | message detail
If you didn't I'd no longer allow you to have sex with my mother.

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 9:53:26 PM | message detail
Which is more likely to happen?

Snake/Sonic I or Sonic/Samus III
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/30/2006 9:53:53 PM | message detail
Which is more likely to happen?

Snake/Sonic I or Sonic/Samus III
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/30/2006 9:54:25 PM | message detail
We should start an Akuma rally. Srsly.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/30/2006 9:54:33 PM | message detail
Sonic/Samus III, for sure.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/30/2006 9:54:53 PM | message detail
Sonic/Samus III, as it'll be happening.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/30/2006 9:54:57 PM | message detail
Sonic/Samus III based on that Snake has a 0% shot of beating Mega Man IMO, and Sonic has around a 15% shot of beating out Crono and Mega Man for the male win.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/30/2006 9:55:02 PM | message detail
Kairi > Claire
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