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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:07:02 PM | message detail
Since when do looks matter so much? Plus KoaC totally looks cooler anyway. But seriously, I'd go more by total amount of sales rather than looks. PW hasn't even sold as many copies as it's gonna take him votes to win the match.

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/28/2006 6:07:57 PM | message detail
But KD actually sold decently, while Phoenix is just a fad.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:08:50 PM | message detail
That is important because looks are everything.

Duh. Who would vote a little pink ball of fluff over a badass sword slinging Persian? PoP > Kirby baby!

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/28/2006 6:09:43 PM | message detail
By the way...

New CB5 Analysis Crew
Master Moltar
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Heroic Mario
Yoblazer
Lopen
Karma Hunter
You?

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cyko | Posted 8/28/2006 6:10:34 PM | message detail
Since when do looks matter so much?

since almost noone outside of Board 8 gives two craps about Phoenix, Gordon, or KoAC. casual appeal (i.e. looks) and having a familiar name are the only two things most voters will have to go off of.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/28/2006 6:10:35 PM | message detail
Duh. Who would vote a little pink ball of fluff over a badass sword slinging Persian? PoP > Kirby baby!

Ah, but you forget racism.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:10:39 PM | message detail
I just, like, totally lost all my indie cred. But don't you worry tranny, you'll get yours soon enough!
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:11:09 PM | message detail
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HAHAHAHA I TOTALLY KNEW THOSE SECRET EMAILS WERE ANALYSIS CREW RELATED. >_>

Also, I like how the 4 people I named as always reading their analysis made it. Oh, and as much as I hate Sowl, him not being on it is just wrong.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:11:41 PM | message detail
Ah, but you forget racism.

He looks white!

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/28/2006 6:11:47 PM | message detail
since almost noone outside of Board 8 gives two craps about Phoenix, Gordon, or KoAC. casual appeal (i.e. looks) and having a familiar name are the only two things most voters will have to go off of.


Looks matter little unless both entrants in the match are unknown. Gordon isn't unknown, Phoenix's appearance shouldn't have too much effect.

Same goes for KoAC when he was against Tidus.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:12:43 PM | message detail
since almost noone outside of Board 8 gives two craps about Phoenix, Gordon, or KoAC. casual appeal (i.e. looks) and having a familiar name are the only two things most voters will have to go off of.

Except that people actually know who Gordon is.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:12:58 PM | message detail
Gordon isn't unknown

The whole hilarity factor comes from him being unknown despite his game being one of the most popular and important games in history... <____<
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cyko | Posted 8/28/2006 6:17:44 PM | message detail

Except that people actually know who Gordon is.

...

The whole hilarity factor comes from him being unknown despite his game being one of the most popular and important games in history... <____<


exactly. outside of this board, the majority of people still don't know or care who Gordon Freeman is. and they never will until he gets a sequel called Half-Life 3: The Return of Gordon Freeman.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/28/2006 6:19:38 PM | message detail
I thought it wasn't that they didn't know him, but that they dislike him for being highly representative of their own, nerdy selves.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/28/2006 6:19:39 PM | message detail
Alyx Vance is more prominent in HL2 than Gordon is.

I'm curious on how close she could be to Gordon >_>

Well, she would be if she had TJF I bet
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:20:27 PM | message detail
If Alyx Vance ended up beating Lara Croft but Gordon Freeman lost to Phoenix Wright I would never stop laughing.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/28/2006 6:23:51 PM | message detail
Also, I like how the 4 people I named as always reading their analysis made it. Oh, and as much as I hate Sowl, him not being on it is just wrong.

It's because of how highly I value your opinion EC!

And yeah, letting go of Soul was tough, as he does very well each Contest. But he's already done the Crew 3 times, and I wanted to emphasize NEW AND EXCITING this Contest.

And few might care for Gordon normally, but I doubt casuals are going to flock to Phoenix. Also, remember this is Gordon post-HL2, and we didn't get a good read because of how strong Leon was instead of the user fodder opponent. Phoenix is going to be the true test.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:25:42 PM | message detail
Wait, did my inclusion mean Soul's exclusion??? 'Cause I don't want to be the one that stops anyone from doing Crew Writeups.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 6:26:52 PM | message detail
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22Gordon+freeman%22&word2=%22half-life+2%22

I put the "2" in to counter the science factor. How sad.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:30:15 PM | message detail
That usually holds true for any character/game relationship...just try it (as long as you don't do something like Link/Zelda, which is skewed for obvious reasons).
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 6:32:10 PM | message detail
Hmmm, you're right. Final Fantasy VII and Cloud Strife has a similar ratio.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/28/2006 6:37:40 PM | message detail
Adding these four to the Guru list:

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 6:42:54 PM | message detail
The more time that passes, the more I think this bracket could have been so much better, and that's with using the same seeding, if I could tweek a person up or down a seed, you could make it really good.

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/28/2006 6:49:44 PM | message detail
Maleficent sort of has the whole "hay guyz I was in a popular Disney movie too" that would easily have me going with her there...plus, I would actually expect her to benefit from KH2, unlike Ansem.

Not that this applies to the contest, but Sleeping Beauty is so damn underrated! I almost never see people saying it's their favorite disney movie, while the Lion King (and the Little Mermaid (just for you, yo)) are always mentioned. It's a shame we couldn't get Maleficent into this contest, because then she could take down Seph, as she should.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/28/2006 6:50:53 PM | message detail
Pete > Maleficent
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/28/2006 7:00:25 PM | message detail
That's not what I meant. I meant that despite Cloud having a way bigger role (Sephiroth's a little bigger) the boost wouldn't be equally bigger. And I am expecting Cloud to boost quite a lot from AC.

I would expect Cloud to have the largest boost of any character within the movie. The whole thing revolves entirely around him from beginning until end, and they make sure to give him numerous action scenes. But I'm not entirely sure how much I am expecting him to gain from the release. Something, certainly, but probably not anything big. I think his KH2/AC roles may combine to perhaps catch him up to Link.

I wouldn't go comparing Vincent's role to Barret's or Yuffie's though. Aside from stuff like Barret looking Godawful (have you seen the "shirt"?), he's just way cooler, gets to talk quite a lot, and also has the forest fight where he is actually useful.

It wouldn't really be comparing their respective characters as much as their roles. Vincent is just a cool character; he was that way in FFVII and he's that way in AC. But as far as his prominence? It's actually not much outside of most of the cast. He has one scene separate from that group...and it's mostly just him talking.

Vincent had a cool role in Advent Children, but it is primarily

I really disagree on Vincent's role not being different from the rest of the pack though. He's there more often, he has the best voice actor of them all (lol opinions), and he's actually useful and awesome.

He shares a lot of scenes with the other characters. The fight with Bahamut-Sin is shared between him, Yuffie, Cid, Barret, and Red XIII/Cait Sith. He didn't really stand out much in the fight either -- and all of them were outclassed by Cloud's appearance shortly after.

For someone who already likes Vincent, a large number of voters, I doubt AC would do much to really raise their opinion of Vincent moreso than the other characters. When you think of the characters that shine in the movie, Cloud, Sephiroth and Tifa come to mind. Vincent enters as a distant fourth...and that's just of the main cast. Rufus, Reno and Rude stole plenty of spotlight themselves. Vincent just is rather out done when it comes to the movie. That's why I wouldn't really expect that much from it in his case.

I'm still sceptical towards playership of the title. It keeps doing good in the FAQs though.

Indeed. The exposure and focus he has gotten as a result of the game is definitely a good thing for him, but I'm interested in some type of poll that asks how people feel/bought Dirge of Cerberus. I'm almost expecting it to be rather low, but we should get sales for America in a few weeks for the month of August.

I was talking about the influx. And TP will have a hard enough time holding off FFXII, but the Playstation 3? No no, Nintendo will need the Wii for that.

The PlayStation 3 is not nearly as big of a deal as it might have been pre-E3. The multiple polls taken here have shown that GameFAQs voters have little interest in the PS3 right now. That may change as time goes on, but it will only have been out for the final two days of the contest, meaning that its importance in affecting matches should not be really taken into consideration too much. What it, combined with Wii, may do is to increase the amount of people coming to the site during those days to get news or whatever.
Heroic Mario | Posted 8/28/2006 7:00:35 PM | message detail
5/01/06 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2363
8/27/06 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2483

Those are two polls essentially asking the same question. The first poll is pre-E3 and the second is post-E3. There are 8.31% (7,946 voters) that plan to get the PS3 on launch day. I doubt that will be enough to do very much, personally. The Wii will be out on the same date as Twilight Princess, so it will certainly get the help of that, but TP will clearly be more of a focus here than the PS3 will.

Interestingly, to compare to the Wii...

4/30/06 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2363
8/28/06 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2484

Just glancing over it, the PS3 performed slightly better than Wii heading into E3, but it is not even comparable after E3 -- a clear favoring toward Nintendo's upcoming console.

Over 55% on both Cloud and Link? Not happening. I think you're putting a little too much stock into TP. FFXII alone is as big of a deal, really. Not that it'll boost Cloud like TP will boost Link (not even close), you should just know that it's not going to be all Nintendo.

Final Fantasy XII will need to bring an influx of Square fans to the site in order to help Cloud out. The problem is that it is competing with the Wii and Twilight Princess releasing along with the overall site preference toward Nintendo. I'm uncertain of what kind of effect we'll see FFXII have this year, but I think TP is already bigger due to the site's preference and how hyped the two games are. Twilight Princess it the biggest release this year, by far, and that applies both here and everywhere else. I suppose we'll see though. I could see TP making Link completely untouchable for the rest of his time in these contests, as he will always have more games releasing in the future to help increase or sustain his popularity. 55% on Cloud doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me considering just what kind of game Link is getting.

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I just, like, totally lost all my indie cred. But don't you worry tranny, you'll get yours soon enough!

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/28/2006 7:10:54 PM | message detail
Pete > Maleficent

This is the truth.

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Who Cares? | Posted 8/28/2006 7:12:35 PM | message detail
The more time that passes, the more I think this bracket could have been so much better, and that's with using the same seeding, if I could tweek a person up or down a seed, you could make it really good.

That's been my main beef with the bracket. It has some good matches and a couple nice fourpacks, but there just aren't enough of them because a handful of characters are poorly positioned. Like you said just, swapping a couple characters here and there adds so much to the unpredictability.

At least for the female side I would've swapped Marle & Daisy, Kasumi & Alyx, and Sheena with either Jade or Kerrigan. And of course have Tifa waiting for Zelda/Aeris.

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/28/2006 7:13:59 PM | message detail
Pete > Maleficient

This is the truth.


That is a horrible, ugly, disgraceful lie. He's like Luigi in Villain form, and then the comparison is similar to saying something absurd like Luigi > Bowser. That's how preposterous that claim is. Pete is the epitome of useless flunkie, Maleficient rightly orders him around to give that purposeless waste of space direction.

If they were really cool, they'd give Maleficient the same optional boss fights Seph has.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/28/2006 7:15:36 PM | message detail
Actually, if they were really cool, they'd remove Maleficient entirely from the game to make Aitch Emm a happy camper.

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Janus5000 | Posted 8/28/2006 7:16:05 PM | message detail
...I like useless flunkies.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/28/2006 7:23:02 PM | message detail
You can like useless flunkies, just not more than Maleficient, especially in comparison to her useless flunkie.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/28/2006 7:24:59 PM | message detail
That is a horrible, ugly, disgraceful lie. He's like Luigi in Villain form, and then the comparison is similar to saying something absurd like Luigi > Bowser. That's how preposterous that claim is. Pete is the epitome of useless flunkie, Maleficient rightly orders him around to give that purposeless waste of space direction.


But Luigi is > Bowser, but not to as a large a degree as Pete is > Maleficient.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 7:30:21 PM | message detail
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 8:49:23 PM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: Alucard will do better on Auron than he did on Ganon in 2k4.

FACT or FICTION: Master Chief will do better on Auron than he did on Aeris in 2k3.

FACT or FICTION: Sonic 2006 will be weaker than Sonic 2005

FACT or FICTION: Crono 2006 will be weaker than Crono 2005

FACT or FICTION: Mega Man 2006 will be weaker than Mega Man 2005

FACT or FICTION: Samus 2006 will be stronger than Samus 2004
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Big Bob | Posted 8/28/2006 9:29:49 PM | message detail
I don't like these Fact/Fiction posts. I look at the scroll bar and see that the page is long, so I start expecting some long, thought-out posts. But nooo, it's just people saying the same thing over and over.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/28/2006 9:32:10 PM | message detail
FICTION: Alucard will do better on Auron than he did on Ganon in 2k4.

FICTION: Master Chief will do better on Auron than he did on Aeris in 2k3.

FICTION: Sonic 2006 will be weaker than Sonic 2005

Fact : Crono 2006 will be weaker than Crono 2005

FICTION: Mega Man 2006 will be weaker than Mega Man 2005

FICTION: Samus 2006 will be stronger than Samus 2004

The last 4 are all minor changes, though. I doubt any of them make any sort of jump in any direction. I see Crono having the most change, I see it being negative, but I see it being negligible.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2006 9:33:47 PM | message detail
FICTION: Alucard will do better on Auron than he did on Ganon in 2k4.

Auron should be stronger now than GDorf 2K4 and perhaps even at GDorf 2K5's level.

FACT: Master Chief will do better on Auron than he did on Aeris in 2k3.

Just barely...I think Auron will be fairly close to Crono's level, but not quite close enough for MC to get within 1% of what he got against Crono.

FICTION: Sonic 2006 will be weaker than Sonic 2005

Well, I'd imagine false...but you never know.

FICTION: Crono 2006 will be weaker than Crono 2005

I'm certainly open to Crono weakening, however.

FICTION: Mega Man 2006 will be weaker than Mega Man 2005

YES, I'm boring...I know. What do you expect me to do? Make some random wild prediction?

FACT: Samus 2006 will be stronger than Samus 2004

Well, I think Samus was slightly stronger in 2K5 than in 2K4, and with MP:H she should've maintained it.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 9:49:59 PM | message detail
I don't like these Fact/Fiction posts. I look at the scroll bar and see that the page is long, so I start expecting some long, thought-out posts. But nooo, it's just people saying the same thing over and over.

I'm not a big fan either, but when people actually respond to each point, like Haste 2 did, they can be quite interesting.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/28/2006 10:03:58 PM | message detail
I wanted a Maleficient rematch in KH2, dammit!!



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creativename | Posted 8/28/2006 11:21:44 PM | message detail
Adept of Aiur:
I guess in a manner of speaking, it's actually kind of impressive that Claire got in despite having no recency.

Yeah...this is another thing that makes me have second thoughts on picking Kairi.

Also I didn't know that Kairi was an NPC...people are right that good NPCs have a real bad track record.


YoAriel:
The very fact that Kairi/Ansem has me thinking (almost leaning toward Ansem, really) is troubling. Ansem could only muster 54% on Face CATS. Is Claire Redfield really that weak?

Troubling indeed. I'll have to believe those people that say Kairi is definitely stronger than Ansem, but I'm still highly unsure of sticking with Kairi.


Kaxon:
Personally, I think the people saying this are nuts. Phoenix losing to Max Payne would mean he's weaker than the King of All Cosmos. Phoenix has exactly the same type of popularity as the King of All Cosmos except that his fad is bigger, he's the main character of his game, his game has the same name as him, and he'll look better in the match pic. Sam Fisher would probably beat Phoenix but Max Payne and Tina Armstrong would not.

I'm really surprised you're saying this Kaxon. I don't believe this at all. Katamari Damacy was a fairly popular game with a lot of media exposure. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney is nothing.


FastFalcon:
Not that this applies to the contest, but Sleeping Beauty is so damn underrated!

Sleeping Beauty was a big box office disappointment and nearly bankrupted Disney. Regardless of its quality (I've never seen it), it only became a "Disney Classic" due to Disney retconning reality.

Though it not doing well at the box office fits with the theme of it being underrated, I suppose. Just commenting on this because I find the story of a flop being spun into a Classic fascinating.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2006 11:23:56 PM | message detail
Yeah, I was totally hoping I'd get to fight her again. :[ Also, a grand finale against Pete woulda been nice... maybe that's all for KH3.

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/29/2006 12:11:51 AM | message detail

Sleeping Beauty was a big box office disappointment and nearly bankrupted Disney. Regardless of its quality (I've never seen it), it only became a "Disney Classic" due to Disney retconning reality.

Though it not doing well at the box office fits with the theme of it being underrated, I suppose. Just commenting on this because I find the story of a flop being spun into a Classic fascinating.


Is that true? I never knew that; it was always my favorite disney movie as a kid. From watching the occasional commenary on it, I know they put a lot of money and time into the artwork, but yeah, it's worth seeing. Granted, it is a disney movie and therefore geared toward kids, but the music in it is great and the story is good, too.
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cardboard_BoxA_ | Posted 8/29/2006 2:01:32 AM | message detail
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Guess how many teens | Posted 8/29/2006 2:33:16 AM | message detail
The matches I'm worried about:

Claire vs Kairi:

Considering Kairi a lock inhere is just stupid.
Claire has only been in one contest, and she did decent.
She hasn't been in any games ever since, but Resident Evil fans remain resident evil fans and won't turn their back on her.
Kairi won't be as strong as Riku or Sora, and if she would be, you might think that Claire won't be much weaker than Leon too and that would make Claire win.


Jill Valentine vs Princess Peach:

How strong do you guys think Peach will be compared to Yoshi or Luigi? if she is anywhere near those two she will win easily, but I don't think she will be <-<.

Joanna Dark vs Cortana:

Joanna is very weak, Cortana will be too, but they will both be so weak it's hard to know who will be the weakest <_<

Auron vs Master CHief:
I would say Master Chief, but Halo or Master Chief never can pull of the win when it's close and this will be a close match. Also, Auron is just way more cooler.

That is all, so what do you think?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/29/2006 2:42:01 AM | message detail
Jill Valentine vs Princess Peach:

How strong do you guys think Peach will be compared to Yoshi or Luigi? if she is anywhere near those two she will win easily, but I don't think she will be <-<.


I'd take her to be a little stronger than Riku 2k5. She'd probably have a good match with Chun Li, and Chunners would have likely defeat Jill without much difficulty. Adjusted Ness would take Jill out, and I can't imagine Peach being weaker than Ness.

Joanna is very weak, Cortana will be too, but they will both be so weak it's hard to know who will be the weakest <_<

Joanna's had PDZ since the last contest, which gives her a pretty decisive advantage.

I would say Master Chief, but Halo or Master Chief never can pull of the win when it's close and this will be a close match. Also, Auron is just way more cooler.

Auron is one of the strongest characters in the contest, and has had KH2 since 2k5. This won't be close at all.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 8/29/2006 2:56:15 AM | message detail
I agree with you on all points except for auron vs mc


SC2k5:
22 Auron 28.30% 30.88% Zebes 2 3
23 Master Chief 28.29% 30.87% Flood 1 2

And that is AFTER SFF adjustments, before them MC is even stronger

I know x-stats don't tell everything but they tell something
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transience | Posted 8/29/2006 3:22:27 AM | message detail
you're nuts if you take MC's x-stat value seriously. I mean, you can take it if you want, but you're going to be very alone in that pick.
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