GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 351
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 4:59:55 PM | message detail |
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why can't she still be stronger than Jill Because I don't buy Tidus 2k2's ranking, plus a dose of good ol' common sense lets me recognize exactly how much more popular Jill is... --- Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:01:40 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to mention again that, for what it's worth, Gordon has had HL2 ported to the Xbox since the last character battle. Also, there's very rarely been signs of Yuffie being liked. We know the FF7 poll here where she's, what, only ahead of Cait Sith and maybe Barret? When HM posted the results of the DoC-site's poll results, I think over 50% said they remembered Yuffie for stealing the materia...and who didn't get mad about that? She is an optional character, too -- hey, I had to. I'm just saying there's very little sign that she's strong, except that she's from FF7 and has apearances in KH now...which is plenty enough for most characters to be strong, but not necessarily liked enough to be nominated. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:02:41 PM | message detail |
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A single game can do a LOT when you're just that weak. We just
haven't had a lot of legitimate recurring fodder in these contests. Regardless, it's still a PC game on GameFAQs and the fact that no one really cares about Gordon. The first Half-Life was a huge deal back then, yet Gordon still turned out to be complete **** fodder. Why would Half-Life 2 change things for him? --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 8/28/2006 5:04:01 PM | message detail |
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AiAi vs. Phoenix Wright I'd take AiAi. --- caps |
| Tai | Posted 8/28/2006 5:04:33 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to mention again that, for what it's worth, Gordon has had HL2 ported to the Xbox since the last character battle. For what it's worth is right. XBox and PC....I can't see any good being in games that are only playable in those two systems. :( Not in GameFAQs contests. --- Just like the South in the Civil War, the Red Sox will always and forever be remebered for getting owned by the Yankees. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:04:38 PM | message detail |
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I buy his 2k2's ranking, it's just that 2002 was a completely different
year than we've ever seen before, and it's part of the reason I don't
buy KH boost as much as voter shift changes everything, but happens to
favor Square the most. But just seeing her above her at one point means
that it's at least possible. Do I personally think so? No. But that
doesn't mean it can be completely ruled out, there's no reason for me
to believe the 2K2 numbers are incorrect, just outdated. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:05:48 PM | message detail |
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:06:19 PM | message detail |
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Half-Life was a big deal, but aside from being just plain
old it was more or less pushed to the sidelines in the wake of
Counter-Strike and the slew of other mods, in which Gordon Freeman
reaps no benefit. Half-Life 2 is a game that is fresh, new, and still
has its own legs today -- not to mention that Gordon takes a 'lil' bit
more focus in it. The fact that it's the first game GF has had in, oh,
FOREVER is enough to think that it did something for him, even if it is a PC only game. --- Commit it to memory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:06:21 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth is right. XBox and PC....I can't see any good being in games that are only playable in those two systems. Oh, you mean like Halo? 'Cuz, I mean, Halo was on Xbox and PC..... --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| greatone10 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:06:37 PM | message detail |
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Bold prediction: If the GFNW fad never existed, no one would even think of taking Wright over Freeman. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest. |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 8/28/2006 5:07:49 PM | message detail |
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Bold prediction: If the GFNW fad never existed, no one would even think of taking Wright over Freeman. Of course. Whether Freeman is strong or not, Phoenix is n-o-t-h-i-n-g. --- caps |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:08:09 PM | message detail |
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Bold prediction: If the GFNW fad never existed, no one would even think of taking Wright over Freeman. GFNW exists for a reason. Gordon has one of the worst track records in GameFAQs contest history. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:08:11 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth is right. XBox and PC....I can't see any good
being in games that are only playable in those two systems. :( Not in
GameFAQs contests. Yeah I know, MC &Diablo are both totally below Gordon's place in the stats, no one could LOGICALLY be that high when appearing on XBox or PC, it's just CRAZY! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:08:12 PM | message detail |
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Bold prediction: If the GFNW fad never existed, no one would even think of taking Wright over Freeman. Well, yeah, but no one would exactly think of taking Sam Fisher over Freeman as well... Speaking of which, I'd take Sam Fisher and Max Payne to clobber PW, so even if GF is back to his old self this year I see him trashing Wright. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tai | Posted 8/28/2006 5:08:30 PM | message detail |
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Oh, you mean like Halo? 'Cuz, I mean, Halo was on Xbox and PC..... Yeah..and it choked in both the Game and Series contests. :( --- Just like the South in the Civil War, the Red Sox will always and forever be remebered for getting owned by the Yankees. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:09:04 PM | message detail |
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There is a huge difference between Halo and Half-Life. Halo single-handedly carried an entire console. Half-Life didn't. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:09:22 PM | message detail |
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Yeah..and it choked in both the Game and Series contests. :( Go ahead and take Phoenix Wright over Halo. I dare ya. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:09:23 PM | message detail |
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Bold prediction: If the GFNW fad never existed, no one would even think of taking Wright over Freeman. No kidding, people just want an excuse to take their beloved PW to win a match, even if their thinking has to be completely delusional on the matter. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Tai | Posted 8/28/2006 5:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Halo single-handedly carried an entire console to hell. Fixed, in terms of these contests. ;-) --- Just like the South in the Civil War, the Red Sox will always and forever be remebered for getting owned by the Yankees. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:09:46 PM | message detail |
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Incorrect: despite FF7 being as big as it is here, we saw
Kerrigan-supporters be loud and in high numbers against Vincent. When
so many people rally for a character and they face somebody who's not
Noble Nine-material, they tend to stick to their nomination rather
vehemently. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| greatone10 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:10:01 PM | message detail |
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Well, yeah, but no one would exactly think of taking Sam Fisher over Freeman as well... Sam Fisher performed well on Magus the year before, which also happened to be the year he overperformed on Link. He would have been the favorite regardless. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:10:21 PM | message detail |
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Yeah..and it choked in both the Game and Series contests. :( Wow.... just stop talking please. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| BlastTheSpeaker | Posted 8/28/2006 5:12:01 PM | message detail |
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Well it didn't exactly win matches >_> -Hiko --- Blast the Speakers!! Hopeful Soon To Be WWEGSB FPV DL Member |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:12:08 PM | message detail |
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Sam Fisher performed well on Magus the year before, which also
happened to be the year he overperformed on Link. He would have been
the favorite regardless. I was sort of assuming that it would be a 'first contest' thing...even if the GFNW catchphrase doesn't exist, Gordon's poor performances speak for themselves... --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tai | Posted 8/28/2006 5:12:46 PM | message detail |
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Go ahead and take Phoenix Wright over Halo. I dare ya. Woah...I'd take Halo over quite a few characters, let's not get extreme here. :( Wow.... just stop talking please. Yeah, cause it's obvious I missed something. Mind telling me what it is? --- Just like the South in the Civil War, the Red Sox will always and forever be remebered for getting owned by the Yankees. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:13:08 PM | message detail |
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Half-Life 2 is a game that is fresh, new, and still has its own legs
today -- not to mention that Gordon takes a 'lil' bit more focus in it.
The fact that it's the first game GF has had in, oh, FOREVER is enough
to think that it did something for him, even if it is a PC only game. I'll concede that HL2 did give Gordon a boost, but I do not think that it's a large as 2005 stats suggest. Minimal, at best, IMO. How big the boost was is subject to debate. All I'm saying is that taking Phoenix over Gordon is not as ludicrous as people are thinking and I personally see it as a toss-up between the two. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Tai | Posted 8/28/2006 5:13:30 PM | message detail |
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Well it didn't exactly win matches Exactly....if you mean Halo, that is. --- Just like the South in the Civil War, the Red Sox will always and forever be remebered for getting owned by the Yankees. |
| greatone10 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:16:35 PM | message detail |
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Half-Life was a big deal, but aside from being just plain old it was
more or less pushed to the sidelines in the wake of Counter-Strike and
the slew of other mods, in which Gordon Freeman reaps no benefit.
Half-Life 2 is a game that is fresh, new, and still has its own legs
today -- not to mention that Gordon takes a 'lil' bit more focus in it.
The fact that it's the first game GF has had in, oh, FOREVER is enough
to think that it did something for him, even if it is a PC only game. This is exactly why Gordon performed well in 2K5. I can buy Counter-Strike Retail right now and be totally unaware that I am playing Half-Life, but with Terrorists instead of a scientist waving a crowbar. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 Z1mZum made me look like Shadow Hearts in the Guru contest. |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/28/2006 5:18:29 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of which, I'd take Sam Fisher and Max Payne to clobber PW,
so even if GF is back to his old self this year I see him trashing
Wright. Personally, I think the people saying this are nuts. Phoenix losing to Max Payne would mean he's weaker than the King of All Cosmos. Phoenix has exactly the same type of popularity as the King of All Cosmos except that his fad is bigger, he's the main character of his game, his game has the same name as him, and he'll look better in the match pic. Sam Fisher would probably beat Phoenix but Max Payne and Tina Armstrong would not. --- CATS for SC2k6 champion |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/28/2006 5:18:29 PM | message detail |
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I still think that Gordon is non-linear. I may be in the minority though. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:20:10 PM | message detail |
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I think Gordon Freeman suffers a bit from the same thing Master Chief
does, albeit on a much smaller scale. He'll never blow anyone out but
the worst of fodder, but he'll also likely overperform on characters
that are stronger than him. He definitely gained from HL2, but not as
much as the stats indicate. Of course, he doesn't have to get much to beat Phoenix. He has every reason to make the King of all Cosmos look strong. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:20:41 PM | message detail |
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Uh...you do realize Max 2k4 > King of All Cosmos, right? --- Commit it to memory. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:22:11 PM | message detail |
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The difference being the King's game actually sold triple digits. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:22:11 PM | message detail |
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All I'm saying is that taking Phoenix over Gordon is not as
ludicrous as people are thinking and I personally see it as a toss-up
between the two. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2243 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1871 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1877 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2304 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2306 Top 100 List: Half-Life 2 (before the Xbox port) - #25 Pokemon Red - #28 Half-Life - #31 I mention Pokemon at #28 because it's the highest handheld-only title I saw on the list...and PW's game will be NOWHERE near its popularity, if the other polls weren't already enough to show that. You will have to be counting on the PW fad being the majority of his strength to win AND for the fad to be noticably bigger than CATS's AYB fad. I deem it unlikely, so to say. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:22:25 PM | message detail |
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Hell, after inspection, Max Payne has been stronger than KoaC for every year he's been in the contests (three years). --- Commit it to memory. |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:23:36 PM | message detail |
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And with my last he, I meant Phoenix Wright. Sorry, should have clarified. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:25:29 PM | message detail |
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Top 100 List: Half-Life 2 (before the Xbox port) - #25 Pokemon Red - #28 Half-Life - #31 I mention Pokemon at #28 because it's the highest handheld-only title I saw on the list...and PW's game will be NOWHERE near its popularity, if the other polls weren't already enough to show that. You will have to be counting on the PW fad being the majority of his strength to win AND for the fad to be noticably bigger than CATS's AYB fad. I deem it unlikely, so to say. *orgasms* --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:26:24 PM | message detail |
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Now when am I gonna get mine, EC?! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/28/2006 5:28:50 PM | message detail |
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Be patient! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:29:09 PM | message detail |
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I would not say it is anything significant, but Snake should be a
bit stronger this year than he was last year. I know he got at least
one new fan since the last contest -- and it's thanks to that MGS4
trailer!! =p Well, I kinda feel more inclined to vote for Solid Snake due to the trailor myself...heh, sue me. I'd go Ansem > Kairi > Axel, but they'd all be pretty close together. Ansem beating Kairi?!?! No way. I'm thinking Kairi >> Axel > Ansem. Claire Redfield would beat Ansem without question, though... The first Half-Life was a huge deal back then, yet Gordon still turned out to be complete **** fodder. Why would Half-Life 2 change things for him? I think part of the reason Gordon did so well was because he's been rather established in these contests (becoming "iconic" in a way). It's a similar situation to CATS...voters are starting to recognize/like those characters from being in past contests, for one reason or another. The fact that they're "joke" characters may be part of that. There's not a lot of proof, though, especially since CATS faced another jobber and Mr. Anti-votes last year. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:32:42 PM | message detail |
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Again, Half-Life >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gordon Freeman. The popularity of the games means nothing in relation
to Gordon Freeman. The first Half-Life is worth ~30% on FF7, yet Gordon
was still uber fodder back then. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 5:33:41 PM | message detail |
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The first Half-Life is worth ~30% on FF7 *looks at what it's behind* Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... --- Commit it to memory. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/28/2006 5:36:47 PM | message detail |
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I know quite a few people that never played HL and played HL2 and loved
it. There's no real evidence but you can't count out the fact that a
lot of people might of experienced the HL series for the first time
with HL2 and thus voted for Gordon in 2k5. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 5:39:26 PM | message detail |
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I would still wager that Gordon Freeman > PW's game, too, so be sure
to add that to the equation. Also, don't forget Half-Life was bound to
be very over-rated in the Game Contest thanks to Starcraft. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:42:18 PM | message detail |
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I would still wager that Gordon Freeman > PW's game, too, so be sure to add that to the equation. I disagree, but there's nothing I can really say about that. Your guess is as good as mine, but I'm still banking on a Phoenix upset. And about Starcraft, by how much are you guys thinking it overrated the 128 Division? --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 5:43:55 PM | message detail |
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The first Half-Life is worth ~30% on FF7 *looks at what it's behind* Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... Indeed, WW > MP SFF means HL is much stronger than that. >_> --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:59:55 PM | message detail |
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I think he means Starcraft. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2006 6:02:47 PM | message detail |
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I think he knows. -_- --- Commit it to memory. |
| cyko | Posted 8/28/2006 6:05:15 PM | message detail |
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Of course, he doesn't have to get much to beat Phoenix. He has every reason to make the King of all Cosmos look strong. i strongly doubt that Phoenix will do as poorly as the King. perhaps you have forgotten what they look like - King of All Cosmos: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/bombtrak/king_cosmos.jpg Phoenix Wright: http://case.oncle-tom.net/images/Jeux-video/Phoenix-wright/Phoenix-wright-ryuichi.jpg ......yeah............... one looks like a Village People reject while the other looks like one of the Turks. Phoenix has way more potential to be strong fodder than KoAC. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 6:07:02 PM | message detail |
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That is important because looks are everything. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |