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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/29/2006 4:09:03 PM | message detail
So you think Peach wouldn't even 40% on Sora? Peach is a legend!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:09:45 PM | message detail
Pac-Man is a legend!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:09:52 PM | message detail
So you think Peach wouldn't even 40% on Sora? Peach is a legend!

So is Donkey Kong.

...and Pac-Man, for that matter.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:09:59 PM | message detail
I think Peach will be super super strong, like near Zelda level. Just wait!

... What? Is this supposed to be another "No one cares about Ocarina of Time" deal? >>

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:11:00 PM | message detail
Mega Man > Samus lolz

lol karma hunter indeed.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/29/2006 4:13:03 PM | message detail
Is it wrong to think that there'll be female SFF like, the stronger character gets more % than they should because they're facing another female?

Yeah, probably. But I feel like Peach will do better because she's Peach while the others are not Peach!! Undeniable logic.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:14:05 PM | message detail
That would be the case if anyone cared about Peach.

<_<
>_>

IBUlti.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:14:12 PM | message detail
Heroic Mario vehemently disagrees with me. I can't fail!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:14:22 PM | message detail
That'll happen against Daisy...But chick on chick matches will boil down to who is hotter.

Or who can win in a catfight.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/29/2006 4:16:28 PM | message detail
http://www.warmech.net/special/classes/ff10-2/berserker-rikku.jpg > Samus in hotness, and a catfight, especially since she looks like a cat.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:17:27 PM | message detail
Heroic Mario vehemently disagrees with me. I can't fail!

"GTA would definitely beat Metal Gear."

"*HM vehemently disagrees.*"

Oh what now?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:18:33 PM | message detail
I don't remember that disagreement being very vehement!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:21:29 PM | message detail
I know Sonic's exact fate within one match without fail! That means he'll be losing to Luigi/Kirby/Zero, not Vincent/Ganondorf!

Silly people!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:22:59 PM | message detail
About the Battle Royale, I've got Cloud -> Sephiroth -> Link -> Mario -> Male Winner -> Female Winner. A little bit of Hero SFF going on there.

Which is a hell of a good list. I'm struggling mightily trying to put Cloud ahead of Sephy.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:24:55 PM | message detail
It doesn't take that much trouble to click on a box, does it?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:25:56 PM | message detail
I don't remember that disagreement being very vehement!

You missed mnm and I going at it! You just chimed in later and I was tired of you GTA losers spouting your nonsense, so it wasn't as vehement!!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:28:19 PM | message detail
I didn't say 'vehemently disagrees with mnm', now did I? I'm like Superman, I get an invulnerability aura check and a jobber aura boost whenever my competition gets serious.

Heroic Mario is so screwed. (oh, yes!)
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riemedev | Posted 8/29/2006 4:28:51 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:36:37 PM | message detail
As long as Jill doesn't gain from 2k4 I think Peach should be ok.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:39:21 PM | message detail
I'm not going to call Kairi/Claire a lock by any means, but comparing Kairi to Ansem is completely ludicrous. Minor spoilers aside, you don't see Ansem until the absolute tail end of the first Kindgom Hearts, and he's nothing more than a pathetic excuse for a final boss and little else. His character design in horrendous. He has NO appeal at all in that game. He's seriously the Kingdom Hearts version of Necron.

And he still broke 20% on Ganondorf, before Kingdom Hearts 2. I'd wager Ansem would do a percent or two higher on him if that match were held again.

Kairi is a major NPC in both games. She's the focal point of the first game's story, more or less. And in 2, Kairi's needs no explanation. She went from teenybopper to bombshell, and was a lot more involved in terms of screen time and impact. What I'm saying is that people care about Kairi. No one gives two craps about Ansem.

I like the two KH games almost as much as partystar does, and believe me when I say that we're a fanatical bunch. Kairi has fans. A lot of them.

And so does Resident Evil, by the way. But with a nomination format in which people seriously struggled to think of more than one or two girls they actually liked, Claire managed a 7 seed. I don't think the RE fans care about her anymore, whereas the KH fans actually care about Kairi. This isn't a Street Fighter vs Resident Evil scenario in which RE4 will be able to bail RE out, either. Claire wasn't in RE4.

Claire winning isn't a bad pick, but don't make it based on thinking the opponent has no fans. Kairi, an unplayable NPC got a 2 seed. And if Ceej is telling the truth about how he does seedings, then Kairi was in 8th place in terms of how many nomination she got among females. That's more than the leading Street Fighter rep, more than both FF6 reps, more than the leading MGS rep, and most importantly more than BOTH RE reps. In matches where "no one cares" about either character, fan favorite voting along with bracket voting really matters. I think Kairi'll have the advantage in both departments.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:39:30 PM | message detail
As long as Jill doesn't gain from 2k4 I think Peach should be ok.

What if she was never really that weak in the first place?

I mean, could you really see THE Jill Valentine losing to Kefka, of all people...?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:41:32 PM | message detail
And he still broke 20% on Ganondorf

Why are you talking like this is some sort of accomplishment?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:41:52 PM | message detail
From charmander6000 Posted 8/29/2006 7:36:37 PM #469
As long as Jill doesn't gain from 2k4 I think Peach should be ok.

Even if she did, look at how close Zelda is to Link. Peach I guess would be around DK level, which should be enough to put her over Jill.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:41:55 PM | message detail
A weird thought -- if Jill had faced Tidus in 2k2, would you expect her to win?
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:42:30 PM | message detail
Actually, you could just mention that he put up 25% and outperformed Dr. Robotnik.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:43:30 PM | message detail
Why are you talking like this is some sort of accomplishment?

Ansem is Necron. Ansem is Giygas. Ansem is Colossus 16. He's there just to be there.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:44:16 PM | message detail
That's more than the leading Street Fighter rep, more than both FF6 reps, more than the leading MGS rep, and most importantly more than BOTH RE reps.

Because they didn't have a monopoly on nominations. Sure, there's Namine, but meh. Sure, Kairi has some weird pedophiles who think she's cute for some reason, but other than that, meh.

I seriously can't believe somebody like Ulti (who knows better) is trying to use nominations to justify any sort of pick.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:44:56 PM | message detail
I think we're all forgetting how horrible and random (but not really if you're obsessed with FFIX lol) Necron really was. Ansem is an Ultimecia, at worst.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:45:19 PM | message detail
Ansem is Necron. Ansem is Giygas. Ansem is Colossus 16. He's there just to be there.

He's nothing like any of those. Quit exaggerating. For one, Ansem had plot importance, and secondly, he didn't appear just out of nowhere. Thirdly, Billy Zane owns you.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:46:04 PM | message detail
Sure, Kairi has some weird pedophiles who think she's cute for some reason, but other than that, meh.

As of KH2, I'd probably call them ephebophiles. Uh <_< carry on.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:47:05 PM | message detail
Ansem had plot importance

*minor Kingdom Hearts spoilers*


No. They mention his name once near the beginning of the game, then never again until the end.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:48:25 PM | message detail
What? You don't think people paid attention to what the Ansem Reports were? You had to get some of them.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2006 4:48:46 PM | message detail
He does have plot importance beyond that, technically -- you collect Ansem Reports for basically the entire game.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:49:20 PM | message detail
I think it's safe to say that the casual KH fan couldn't care less about the Ansem reports.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:49:52 PM | message detail
But they knew what they were, and they read them. To say that Ansem came out of nowhere and had no plot importance is a stretch.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:50:45 PM | message detail
I seriously can't believe somebody like Ulti (who knows better) is trying to use nominations to justify any sort of pick.

Did you totally miss where I say the match is difficult or what? I never said picking Kairi was safe. I said that the people who assume no one cares about her don't know what they're talking about. That's it. Bracket-wise, either pick is good.

My real struggle is Vincent/Ganon. If Ganon is overrated at ALL, Vincent wins. Unless AC overrated Vincent. In which case Ganon wins. But English AC already came up, so Vincent is probably legit even if he DID overrate the Devil Division. And then there's what if any impact Dirge makes. But then there's lol ZeldaFAQs.

I'm about to just pick Vince out of liking him a little better and say screw it.

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gregskywalker | Posted 8/29/2006 4:50:54 PM | message detail
Does Claire Redfield have a chance against Kairi?
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:52:09 PM | message detail
But they knew what they were, and they read them. To say that Ansem came out of nowhere and had no plot importance is a stretch.

It doesn't matter. The game barely gives him screentime. It dosen't change the fact that KH fans just don't give a **** about Ansem. It's like saying MGS fans really cared about Big Boss before MGS3.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:52:12 PM | message detail
From LeonhartForever Posted 8/29/2006 7:49:52 PM #485
But they knew what they were, and they read them. To say that Ansem came out of nowhere and had no plot importance is a stretch.

But no one cared about him. People care about Kairi. Tell me you were touched by that ending in Kingdom Hearts. Anyone that says no is a damn liar.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:52:40 PM | message detail
It's like saying MGS fans really cared about Big Boss before MGS3.

O SNAP SON

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:53:47 PM | message detail
XD, No one in the right mind reads the Ansem reports. =P

I almost did, but I'm partially out of my mind.


As far as "that match" goes, I don't know what I'm talking about anymore. I picked for a win-win scenario for me. If that match comes through for me, well, maybe I got a shot here.

Actually, I'm still waiting for the "Knuckles > Magus so Sonic > Crono" explanations, if someone hadn't used that already, muhaha.

Has someone done that yet in one of these topics? >_>


And, just so I feel like I don't have to think about that match anymore, think Subby will be stronger than Scorpion?


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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:53:54 PM | message detail
People care about Kairi.

...Not that much. She's got those weird fanboys who think she's hot, and to the rest, she's not in the game that much either.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:54:11 PM | message detail
If Ganon is overrated at ALL, Vincent wins.

... What? Did you just mention Ganon being overrated?

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:54:45 PM | message detail
Good thing he did, too, because he's right! Ganondorf is NOT a Noble Nine breaker.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2006 4:55:23 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman has a strength of 15.86 against Base Link.
King of all Cosmos has a strength of 16.27 against Base Link.


Gordon Freeman 48.74% 44,082
Phoenix Wright 51.26% 46,361
TOTAL VOTES 90,443

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/29/2006 4:55:24 PM | message detail
That is your nasty bias speaking and nothing more!!

(Ganon is underrated if anything in 2005.)

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:55:52 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright will save the universe!
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/29/2006 4:56:03 PM | message detail
Kairi wins because you can look up her dress at the end there, totally.


Now, could you ever do that with Claire?


AHA! SHE'S WEARING JEANS!!



Anyhoo, I think Claire > Kairi is a nice little upset pick.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/29/2006 4:56:08 PM | message detail
The King of All Cosmos would destroy Phoenix Wright.

And I ain't talkin' Ulti-style either!
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Big Bob | Posted 8/29/2006 4:56:14 PM | message detail
I AM THE MAN WHO WILL BECOME THE PIRATE KING!

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