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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 11:06:47 PM | message detail
Indeed. Now, how do those compare to, say, MGS2?

About a million more copies. The fact that it exceeded a million pretty much denies all claims that it is a "flop."

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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:15:09 PM | message detail
*sigh*

Zero vs Kirby bothers me so much.... I can't ignore Kirby's 2005 strength, but I also can't ignore how much of a factor Zero is overall. Kirby has done well vs Squall, Bowser, tripled a FF character, 58% on Tidus....


Zero had his 47/48 on Sonic in 03. But that may be defunct. But he had 45 on Mega Man in 04. Also I don't know what to make of 61 on Vercetti. 63 on Ryu H is pretty blah if you ask me, and 37 on Mario is just decent. But I can't just look past his overall power. On paper, it seems he should beat Kirby, but Kirby had 48% ON BOWSER. BOWSER HAD 49.5% ON SNAKE.


What do you guys think, this is the hardest match of the contest for me...?


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Draco1214 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:16:57 PM | message detail
The hardest match for me is Ganondorf vs. Vincent, and I have a feeling it'll be the closest match on the male side. Both of them have great reasons to win that match.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:20:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, but since Vincent = Squall, just about (very slightly more powerful, the match bewteen those 2 was within 51-49), I think Ganon would beat Squall. So Ganon should beat Vince. SFF scares me a bit there though.

Still, I always considered Ganon to be the next one up after the N9.


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Janus5000 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:21:33 PM | message detail
I don't know how you can say this...he'd be on no one's radar if it wasn't for that fad.

The "needs you" page will do nothing, but the fad itself is obviously a big reason why he made it at all.


That's not quite what I meant - you're right, but I was referring to the Objection site linking to the nominations page doing nothing. I probably should've specified that.
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smitelf | Posted 8/27/2006 11:47:40 PM | message detail
For Zero vs. Kirby, this match wouldn't be considered an issue if Bowser hadn't overperformed against Snake. That's really the only piece of evidence in Kirby's favor, so his dubious rise in the standings in the last contest isn't enough for me to bet against Zero's solid historic pedigree.
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ShadowOwns | Posted 8/27/2006 11:54:50 PM | message detail
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Posted 8/27/2006 8:07:42 PM

Fact. Canadiens need something of note ever since Edmonton lost the Stanley Cup Finals (Go Hurricanes!)

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:( That is beyond hurtful. Just a note, most of canada hates edmonton in the first place. It wouldn't go past me if half of canada wanted the hurricanes to win anyway. Im surprised the 'canes actually have fans on this site :P jk

back to the contest....why is it that all the contests always have to happen right in the middle of school :(
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smitelf | Posted 8/27/2006 11:56:59 PM | message detail
:( That is beyond hurtful. Just a note, most of canada hates edmonton in the first place.

Most of Canada is unbecomingly jealous of Edmonton's economic success.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 8/28/2006 12:15:56 AM | message detail
For Zero vs. Kirby, this match wouldn't be considered an issue if Bowser hadn't overperformed against Snake. That's really the only piece of evidence in Kirby's favor, so his dubious rise in the standings in the last contest isn't enough for me to bet against Zero's solid historic pedigree.

But, while that match is suspicious, it's consistent with 2005 Kirby in general. After all, I'd expect Bowser to get about 60% on Tidus, which is 2% better than Kirby did. Kirby was 2% away from 50-50ing Bowser. Plus, like I said he tripled Cecil, an FFer. Kirby was for real in 2005.

Zero was unimpressive vs Ryu, did very well vs Lloyd, and only so-so on Mario.

Zero's trend hs been down. Kirby's has been up.

That's my 2 cetns to Kirby. It's just hard to pick against Zero.
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greatone10 | Posted 8/28/2006 1:05:47 AM | message detail
I attribute some of Kirby's 2005 run to being fresh off Canvas Curse, with many people still playing through it.

Now that it is most forgotten about, I expect Kirby to take a drop.
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ShadowOwns | Posted 8/28/2006 1:45:30 AM | message detail
Most of Canada is unbecomingly jealous of Edmonton's economic success.

That may be true, but I was actually refering to most of canada hating the oilers.

Its not that great in edmonton, its hot in the summer and real cold in the winter :S
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/28/2006 2:19:32 AM | message detail
What? No one hates the Oilers... they're always that underdog team that works hard and barely makes the playoffs.

Also, they had a man named WAYNE GRETZKY. You may have heard of him? And he enjoyed his best years there. Messier's pretty popular in Canada too.
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ShadowOwns | Posted 8/28/2006 2:45:16 AM | message detail
Ya ive heard of that guy lols. I guess my sig means nothin :(
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2006 3:53:43 AM | message detail
But, while that match is suspicious, it's consistent with 2005 Kirby in general. After all, I'd expect Bowser to get about 60% on Tidus, which is 2% better than Kirby did. Kirby was 2% away from 50-50ing Bowser. Plus, like I said he tripled Cecil, an FFer. Kirby was for real in 2005.

Well, Tidus actually looked stronger in 2k5 than in 2k4, which, IMO, doesn't make much sense. Adjusting him back down to his 2k4 level makes Kirby's 2k5 power somewhat less extreme...and since I believe Bowser did overperform on Snake, adjusting that division down makes sense to me.

I attribute some of Kirby's 2005 run to being fresh off Canvas Curse, with many people still playing through it.

But...CC really wasn't that big. Amazing Mirror, which also came out after SC2k4, sold more than twice as well as CC did. I think the two games combined were what gave Kirby his boost, moreso Amazing Mirror than CC.

Interestingly, Kirby's three best-selling games have come out since 2k2, with #5 being CC.

Fun fact: Kirby Super Star sold 33,000 copies. Still think it's Kirby's strongest game?
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consolefreak | Posted 8/28/2006 4:36:12 AM | message detail
This is old as I'm catching up, and I'm sure other people commented on this, too, but as someone who's repeatedly not excited by the effect of Advent Children, it still is not a game. It already appeared to a fanbase that supported Final Fantasy VII. Aside from the valid argument that it rallied the FFVII fans and made them vote more, I don't see Advent Children as attracting new fans to a game/series in the same way Kingdom Hearts did. Sorry if this is old, but, I just don't think an AC to KH comparison is valid.

But 55% of the site has seen it.. How could it not have an effect on Vincent, when he is a lot more prominent in it than in FFVII? Besides, movie characters can't be popular now? That's not much of a point IMO. Sure, gameFAQs is a gaming site, but the 55% viewer-rate is still there, despite it being, in fact, a gaming site.

And there's still the point of the film making people like Vincent more. I'd vote Vincent over Squall in the rematch, but voted Squall last year. Well I actually voted for Vincent, but I regretted that somewhat. Lol anecdotal, but you get the point.

a FFVII remake would appeal mostly to FFVII fans as well. You think it wouldn't boost FFVII characters?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 5:23:12 AM | message detail
he is a lot more prominent in it than in FFVII

Now that's just madness. It's kind of impossible for someone to have more exposure in a movie than in ~30 hours of a ~40 hour game.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 5:26:28 AM | message detail
And I'd bet on Dirge helping Vincent out more than Advent Children, really. I know when I think of AC and Vincent, his first scene sticks out as being the most memorable (because it's ****ing awesome, for the record). I can't even think of anything else.

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Tediz247 | Posted 8/28/2006 5:36:39 AM | message detail
From Phediuk Posted 8/27/2006 10:26:14 PM #189
The smiliarities between The Boss and Big Boss begin and end at their names.

No one looked at the old guy with the eyepatch last year and went, "WHOA! He's the guy from MGS3!" They just didn't. If you think they did, you're wrong.

Big Boss' true appearances in the MG series are limited to being the final boss of the first two games. That's it. He has, like, two lines total.

I may also remind you that the Big Boss as seen in his match pic artwork last year has never appeared in any game, in any form.

The Boss, on the other hand, is one of the main characters of MGS3. Comparing the two is just stupid.


That's exactly why I'm taking The Boss. Big Boss in MGS3 isn't referred to as Big Boss until the very end, and even then, the vast majority of people refer to him as "Snake". Old Man Big Boss did absolutely nothing in any MGS game; only in Metal Gear 1 and 2.

Coincidentally, that's why I also have a slight doubt in my mind about Kerrigan. What if... just what if she got her Brood War box art pic? That thing she got last year only appears on Blizzard's official website and nowhere else. I'm sure that the Kerrigan that every Starcraft fan sees when they load up SC would be strong enough to overcome the rather small difference between herself and Terra.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 5:38:27 AM | message detail
I wouldn't really call that a small difference. You have to hope for Brood War box art and Vincent massively overrating the entire Devil Division.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 6:26:33 AM | message detail
By the way, have I mentioned how much I like this Battle Royale idea? Samus/Crono (assuming both even get that far) is a lock for 5/6 somewhere, as is Link being #1 in the end. But 2/3/4 is tough. Mario is probably the odd one out.

So we have a Link/Cloud/Sephy poll, and it is so hard for me to imagine Sephy not taking second place in that. Yet I can't put it in my bracket.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 6:28:28 AM | message detail
Finally made it back! And to a new bracket! Here are my impressions as I look at the first round matches one at a time.

Spazer Division

(1) Samus Aran
(8) Nidoran F

First of all, Spazer?! What is that? Anyway, I guess Ceej just can’t get away from having a Nintendo character start any contest. Either way, this is the perfect opponent for Nidoran F to see just how low she can go.

(4) Ada Wong
(5) Jade

Is this Mortal Kombat Jade or what? I’m assuming it is. Either way, I didn’t expect her to make it in. I actually had to think about this match for a second before making a decision. *goes to board and reads Ceej’s sticky topic* Oh, nevermind then.

(3) Rikku
(6) Lenneth Valkyrie

Hey, Lenneth made it in! Here’s the one person who can beat Nidoran F for dead last in the stats. Rikku makes a big killing here.

(2) Kairi
(7) Claire Redfield

Man, talk about a situation where seeding should have been reversed. At least Claire makes her long-deserved return here.

Limit Division

(1) Tifa Lockheart
(8) Ivy Valentine

Looks like Tifa won’t get a chance to face Zelda before the end. Here’s hoping Aeris is in this division somewhere. Oh, Ivy? Big deal. She gets destroyed.

(4) The Boss
(5) Celes Chere

Awesome match here. I’m glad to see both of them in. I just wish they didn’t have to face each other right off the bat.

(3) Jill Valentine
(6) Sheena Fujibayashi

Hey, Sheena made it in! Oh, she gets the privilege of getting owned by Ms. Valentine in round one. What a shame. She could’ve won a match with a better draw.

(2) Princess Peach
(7) Princess Daisy

What the? Now Peach is going to look unusually strong going into round 2 because she gets to destroy her much less well-known alter ego. Oh well, all the better when brackets come crashing down.

Triforce Division

(1) Princess Zelda
(8) Carmen Sandiego

*starts singing the “Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?” theme song* Oh, there she is. It’ll be fun to see where she ends up.

(4) Terra Branford
(5) Sarah Kerrigan

Hey, two girls from the Devil Division last year! That actually makes this a really easy matchup to predict.

(3) KOS-MOS
(6) Amy Rose

AMY ROSE!!!! That is all. I’m not even going to acknowledge anything else about this match.

(2) Aeris Gainsborough
(7) Marle

Well, at least we get Zelda/Aeris, though Tifa/Aeris would have been better. Here’s hoping Marle gets smashed into the ground.

Aeon Division

(1) Yuna
(8) Roll

Ahh, man. Why did Roll have to get an opponent I can’t vote for her against? Ah well, at least she’s here, and so far, Tron Bonne is not. The better Mega Man lady made it in.

(4) Joanna Dark
(5) Cortana

Whoa, Cortana actually made it in?! And here I was thinking Lopen was just crazy. I’ll get another opportunity to call him crazy when he picks Cortana to win this one. This is the Lopen Trap Match, and it shall be dubbed thus from hereafter.

(3) Chun-Li
(6) Kasumi

Hey, Kasumi made it back! Whoo-hoo! Fighting game female SFF ahoy! Wait…Chun-Li might have a fighting chance at making it out of this division, though she’s the underdog against Yuna.

(2) Lara Croft
(7) Alyx Vance

Wait, we get Alyx Vance (infamous for being one of the worst characters in my NCAA Character Contest!) and NOT Presea Combatir? This sucks.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 6:28:42 AM | message detail
Patriot Division

(1) Solid Snake
(8) Soma Cruz

SNAAAAAAAAAKE! SC2K6 Championship, here we come!

(4) Squall Leonhart
(5) Tidus

………………………………………I hate you, CJayC. My top three favorite characters ever in one four-pack. This sucks. And to think, this was actually considered a highly debatable match at one point.

(3) Riku
(6) Yoshi

My, overseeded Kingdom Hearts characters everywhere! Riku could have actually been a good trap match if used somewhere else.

(2) Dante Sparda
(7) Ryu Hayabusa

But I like this. Looks like Ceej did take some ideas from the Four-Pack of Fun Board, after all! Good work!

Destiny Division

(1) Sora
(8) Tingle

Oh well, looks like we won’t see a 90% blowout on Tingle! It’ll be interesting to see just how much he can get on Sora though.

(4) Phoenix Wright
(5) Gordon Freeman

…I think I just heard the universe imploding somewhere. Two of the biggest Board 8 phenomena around facing off in round one. This’ll be a fun day on the board, at least.

(3) Kratos (God of War)
(6) Ryu (Street Fighter)

Hey, look! It’s a 3 seeded Kratos facing a heavily underseeded contest regular! Where have we seen this one before?! *crosses fingers and hopes Ryu can win this division*

(2) Mega Man
(7) Axel

*uncrosses fingers* Heh, at least Kingdom Hearts Axel made it into the contest. That’s pretty cool.

Blast Division

(1) Sonic the Hedgehog
(8) CATS

Three Noble Niners down, six more to go. Keep up the good work, CATS.

(4) Ganondorf
(5) Vincent Valentine

Holy crap. This is Sweet Sixteen material here. Huge bracket buster right off the bat. This should have been in Snake’s division though.

(3) Kirby
(6) The Prince of Persia

Introducing the Nomination Rally winner, the Prince of Persia! Kirby is gonna get some awesome powers from him!

(2) Luigi
(7) Zero

…Whoa! CJayC has been reading the stats topics! Seeing Zero as a 7 seed is…weird. But man, this is a tough four-pack. I’ll have to think about this one some more.

Time Division

(1) Crono
(8) Captain Falcon

Crono finally gets his much-deserved 1 seed, and he gets another Nomination Rally character to feed upon!

(4) Bowser Koopa
(5) Leon Kennedy

Hey, Leon made it back! Too bad he doesn’t have much of a chance to win. It’ll be interesting to see if he can outdo Ryu though, for all of the people who think Leon can beat him.

(3) Auron
(6) Alucard

The man with the Plan snuck back into the bracket with another 6 seed. This time, he doesn’t get an overseeded 3 though.

(2) Master Chief
(7) Sub-Zero

All right, Sub-Zero got in! Wait…this means Knuckles the Echidna didn’t. NOOOOOOOOOO! Well, three outta five Nomination Rally winners ain’t bad. Better luck next year, Raiden and Nightmare!

Battle Royale

Wow, I like what CJayC did with this. Instead of the usual Tournament of Champions, he decides to mix it up a bit. This certainly heightens the unpredictability.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 6:30:51 AM | message detail
First of all, Spazer?! What is that?

The name of her best beam in Super Metroid.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2006 6:33:45 AM | message detail
Oh and LEOOOOOOOOOON!!!

You in the Crew again?

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consolefreak | Posted 8/28/2006 6:41:19 AM | message detail
Now that's just madness. It's kind of impossible for someone to have more exposure in a movie than in ~30 hours of a ~40 hour game.

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Well, more prominent relatively, of course. In AC, he's pretty much the 3rd most prominent character behind Cloud and Tifa.

In FFVII, he's the most secret of all the main characters, and is behind a crapload of characters prominence-wise.

And the length of exposure doesn't really matter a whole lot in Vincent's case I think. It's not like Vincent had a lot to say. You either found him or you didn't, and then you either used him or you didn't. AC gives him a lot more character IMO.

And I'd bet on Dirge helping Vincent out more than Advent Children, really. I know when I think of AC and Vincent, his first scene sticks out as being the most memorable (because it's ****ing awesome, for the record). I can't even think of anything else.

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I don't know. Vincent is supposedly awesome in DoC as well, but how many of the site have played it? Hard to say. It's doing good in the FAQs though..

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XIII_rocks | Posted 8/28/2006 6:42:36 AM | message detail
Fact. Half-Life 2 is a popular game, and Lara is fading fast.

How anybody can say this is beyond me...Legend revived the series, and she's got 10th Anniversary Edition coming in December. Lara is by no means "fading fast" - quite the opposite, in fact. The move to Crystal Dynamics is one of the best things that could have happened for her.

Had you said this with Legend being non-existent, you might have a point.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 8/28/2006 6:56:55 AM | message detail
Don't ask me why I'm struggling with Amy/KOS. Just don't.
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th3l3fty | Posted 8/28/2006 7:15:03 AM | message detail
Are Guru signups still open? If so, I'd like to enter.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 8/28/2006 7:32:15 AM | message detail
Why people are legitimately debating Lara/Celes escapes me. Terra is more than likely stronger than Celes. Terra lost to Dante with only 28.5% of the vote. Lara has since had Legend (which will help her a lot) and the 10th anniversary edition announcement for the "purist" Lara fans who preferred the old PS1 games to Legend (2 > Legend > the rest). I'd put her back at her 2k2 strength this contest, maybe a little weaker but not much.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 7:40:21 AM | message detail
And after reading through the last three topics in full...People are actually debating Kairi/Claire? That just seems...odd. I took Claire without a second thought. I mean, I know she's not as strong as she looks in 2002, but still...Kairi won't be much of anything.

...I'm still angry about the Snake/Squall/Tidus four-pack. Extremely angry. Ceej does it to me every year.
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Ayvuir | Posted 8/28/2006 7:40:25 AM | message detail
Can i still sign up for the Guru contest? If so, i would like to.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 7:41:48 AM | message detail
Oh, the Analysis Crew? Moltar mentioned something about retooling it. If he wants to drop me or something, that's fine, but I'm up for it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 7:45:24 AM | message detail
Oh wait, I'm not done yet.

*shakes fist at Heroic Mario*

Not only did you betray Vincent, you betrayed him for Ganondorf. You disgust me!

By the way, you Ganon > Sonic people, you do...remember this...don't you?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2018
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2110

Actually, forget I said anything. Waste as many points as you want.

...Of course, this is coming from the resident Sonic overestimater.
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Trilroy | Posted 8/28/2006 7:46:12 AM | message detail
Shouldn't Mario, Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth all be removed from the contest, rather than glorified and given an instant chance to win every time? At the very least, characters who have won should be retired from the contest.
AmazingKirby | Posted 8/28/2006 7:46:32 AM | message detail
We're not so much debating Kairi/Claire as much as we're saying Kairi is the obvious winner.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 7:50:35 AM | message detail
Uh, Xic, Lara doesn't and won't face Celes.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/28/2006 7:54:42 AM | message detail
And for all of the Luigi/Zero/Kirby debates, the ONE thing that makes me wary about picking Zero to win even against Luigi is that the green plumber will be a ridiculously large bracket favorite. If it's close, that could be a difference maker.

...Wait, I just realized that Ceej put more of my favorite characters in a four-pack! CURSE YOUUUUUUUUU!
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Pats D | Posted 8/28/2006 7:55:41 AM | message detail
If still available, I'd like to sign up for the Guru Contest.
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/28/2006 7:58:31 AM | message detail
Aww, sorry Shadow *hugs*
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/28/2006 8:00:40 AM | message detail
Don't forget about Luigi! I can see Zero suffering from SFF against the plumber, as well as Kirby.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 8:02:38 AM | message detail
Don't forget about Luigi! I can see Zero suffering from SFF against the plumber, as well as Kirby.

...let's not go this far, though I'd give Luigi the intangibles.



Does nobody else get a bad feeling about Sheena?
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NominateSerge | Posted 8/28/2006 8:03:56 AM | message detail
Yeah, I have a bad feeling she's going to get owned.

Seriously though, her chances of beating Jill are around the general area of slim and none.
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Sir Crono | Posted 8/28/2006 8:08:05 AM | message detail
By the way, does anyone think Snake might overperform against Dante if they were to face off? Just an odd feeling I have.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/28/2006 8:08:07 AM | message detail
I'd love to see Sheena beat Jill.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/28/2006 8:10:00 AM | message detail
Oddly enough when I first saw Snake/Tidus/Squall in a fourpack my first thought was "Damn... that sucks for Leon" =P

And if Kairi.... KAIRI beats one of the better RE characters, I will be thoroughly freaking digusted.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/28/2006 8:10:35 AM | message detail
Huh? I'm not the only one that picked Claire?
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2006 8:10:57 AM | message detail
FF7 has had a lot in its favor over the last year. Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus were released, Kingdom Hearts II is out, and there's one another fact that I think is very overlooked: FF7 as a game is in high demand, and the prices for the game are soaring.

I really do think FF7 has had more to boost from than Zelda or Nintendo has (too bad we didn't have a "what's your favorite company?" poll this past year). For that matter, I don't think Final Fantasy could've managed 49% against The Legend of Zelda if the series contest was held -last- year.

I definitely want to call Vincent the favorite over Ganondorf, and also Aeris over Zelda assuming we aren't extremely close to the release of the Wii/Zelda: TP or some other majorly helpful thing for Zelda comes up. I must note to everybody that the winner of Aeris/Zelda gets a free-pass the next round (against Yuna)...if you miss it, you've missed 12 points.

Sorry, but there's NO WAY Luigi would beat Kirby, since Kirby got 48% against Bowser. Either Kirby is that strong, OR Kirby would get at least the same amount of beneficial SFF against Luigi and beat Luigi, anyway. And, if Luigi was SFFed by Yoshi, that means even bigger problems for Luigi on the SFF chain.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/28/2006 8:14:57 AM | message detail
There's really too much against Luigi to take him over Kirby, unfortunately. You've got a direct matchup against Squall where Kirby did 5% better. Then you have the match against Bowser, where you'd likely have to think Luigi > Yoshi or Yoshi > Bowser to take Luigi there. And even if you're one of those proponents of a Kirby overperformance, if he can do that to Bowser, that's not good news for Luigi.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2006 8:16:22 AM | message detail
Nah, I feel good about her doing well enough for herself in the match, if nothing else...

...but last year, Kratos Aurion is at 19.2%, and I remember a poll on Namco's site saying Sheena > Kratos (though it was pretty close). From there, we last saw Jill in 2k4, and she was at 20.65%. I know Hayabusa looked stronger in 2k5 than 2k4, but also compare their pictures -- he got the look he's actually KNOWN for in 2k5 instead of his not-only-ugly-but-easily-mistakable-as-well pics, and Jill still was practically equal with him that year. So, let's assume this was Jill VS Kratos Aurion...

...Jill wins with 53.51%...

...if Sheena > Kratos Aurion and/or Jill dropped any since 2k4, there very well could be a close match to be seen. I'm still giving it to Jill, but I have a shaky feeling about Sheena.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/28/2006 8:17:47 AM | message detail
and I remember a poll on Namco's site saying Sheena > Kratos

Unless the poll had a very, very small number of votes, I don't find that likely, for some reason.
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