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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 350
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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:07:53 PM | message detail |
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Ah, just ignore Ulti. He's on one of his tirades. Today it's the Crew, tomorrow it's the Sonic fanbase. TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:07:55 PM | message detail |
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I've never played FF6, so I have to take peoples word for it that Terra
would be slightly stronger than Celes.... but even then, I have no
doubt in my mind Ocelot is gonna be stronger than The Boss. Calling it
undebatable just makes you look foolish. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:08:20 PM | message detail |
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And Celes is from the "higly acclaimed" Final Fantasy VI, so I don't
think falling back on Metal Gear Solid 3 is such a great idea. --- "Who knew that head wounds bled so much?" ~ Kieran, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:08:49 PM | message detail |
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Oh please RPGuy, MGS3 > FF6! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:09:29 PM | message detail |
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I'm personally feeling pretty confident in Celes. I can't really
imagine The Boss being anywhere near Ocelot considering the number of
games each has been in. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:10:03 PM | message detail |
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The more time that passes the more I lean towards Celes... --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/27/2006 8:10:10 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I just think Celes will be close to Terra, and I wouldn't take Terra over The Boss. --- Moltar Status: Bracket filled and ready to go. 2006 is the year of Samus Aran |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:11:20 PM | message detail |
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At first I wouldn't take Terra over The Boss either. And then as I thought about it, I'd quickly change my mind. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:12:14 PM | message detail |
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Ah, just ignore Turtle. He's on one of his "I'll act like a know-it-all
12 year old" tirades. Today it's anti-nothing important, tomorrow it's
anti-Inviso for no real reason other than attention-whoring crap. And really, Turtle has contributed years worth of meaningful information that grants him the authority to tell others what to do, and has never made a fool out of himself in the process. Seriously. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:12:22 PM | message detail |
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The Boss just screams disgusting fodder character to me... I know Celes
would be too, but gah! This is why a women's bracket was a terrible
idea, I hate every single person who clamored for one. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:13:02 PM | message detail |
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Ah, just ignore Turtle. He's on one of his "I'll act like a
know-it-all 12 year old" tirades. Today it's anti-nothing important,
tomorrow it's anti-Inviso for no real reason other than
attention-whoring crap. And really, Turtle has contributed years worth of meaningful information that grants him the authority to tell others what to do, and has never made a fool out of himself in the process. Seriously. lol ulti (Now BT won't have to post a response!) --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| MnMZero | Posted 8/27/2006 8:13:25 PM | message detail |
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You guys forget that a bunch of Big Boss's votes probably were from people who voted him because of MGS3. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Mega Man X in Best. Series. Ever. Contest |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/27/2006 8:14:13 PM | message detail |
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I've never played FF6, so I have to take peoples word for it that
Terra would be slightly stronger than Celes.... but even then, I have
no doubt in my mind Ocelot is gonna be stronger than The Boss. Calling
it undebatable just makes you look foolish. It's debatable, but I think The Boss should go in as the favorite. She's extremely recognizable and well-liked by everyone who's played Metal Gear Solid 3. She had a ton of screen time and a very powerful relationship with the main character. Also, she was the main antagonist, something that Ocelot has never been. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:14:21 PM | message detail |
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From FlamboyantSpy Posted 8/27/2006 11:10:03 PM #156 The more time that passes the more I lean towards Celes... I hope she wins, but I'm sticking with The Boss regardless. Celes is a character that has a small amount of very noisy fans (I'm one of them, woohoo!), whereas almost everyone that plays MGS3 loves The Boss. What was that term that Phediuk used once? Ensemble cast? Yeah, that could kill Celes. I never get why people expect so much from FF6 characters. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| Big Bob | Posted 8/27/2006 8:14:43 PM | message detail |
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I picked The Boss in that match, because the FF6 characters have been
terrible in the contests. And if you want to bring up Ocelot,
well...Pac Man isn't THAT weak...and Liquid might have been SFF'd... --- If the universe implodes, this space belongs to NClark128. If the law wins, I win! |
| shadow8021 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:15:49 PM | message detail |
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Uggh, by "highly acclaimed" I meant more recent. I hate finding the wrong words >_< As for Ocelot, I really don't know where he lies, because one, the entire Villains Contest was pretty screwy, and two, he was behind Yoshi/Pac-Man and Mega Man/Yoshi in 2K5. I'd imagine he'd be slightly above the fodder line, and Terra was already close to being fodder herself. What I'm trying to say is, if the votals turn out to be high in this contest, there could be a good chance that the newcomers recognize The Boss better than Celes, with MGS3 being more "recent" and all. Say what you want, I just think there's no way Celes can win. --- Character Battle Score: 0/0 Next Pick: lol Samus > Nidoran F |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:16:31 PM | message detail |
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I picked The Boss in that match, because the FF6 characters have
been terrible in the contests. And if you want to bring up Ocelot,
well...Pac Man isn't THAT weak...and Liquid might have been SFF'd... Pac Man.... well he's Pac Man, he can beat up and rock the lesser knowns, but give him someone people can recognize, and it's pretty much auto-death for the dot eating freak. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:16:43 PM | message detail |
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I think Big Boss getting into the last contest period is a good indicator of what The Boss can do. I really doubt anyone playing MGS3 will go "Man, Big Boss kicks ass WOOT WOOT RAISE UP", but who knows. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:16:56 PM | message detail |
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From UltimaterializerX Posted 8/27/2006 11:12:14 PM Ah, just ignore Turtle. He's on one of his "I'll act like a know-it-all 12 year old" tirades. Today it's anti-nothing important, tomorrow it's anti-Inviso for no real reason other than attention-whoring crap. And really, Turtle has contributed years worth of meaningful information that grants him the authority to tell others what to do, and has never made a fool out of himself in the process. Seriously. ~*ST*~ You do realize I was joking right? lol utli TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:17:16 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Terra and Kefka were well liked by most people that played
FFVI, but that doesn't translate into contest success. Same goes for
Ocelot and any Metal Gear Solid. --- "Who knew that head wounds bled so much?" ~ Kieran, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:17:31 PM | message detail |
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At the same time, these high vote totals have been getting attributed
to Nintendo and maybe a little Kingdom Hearts 2. Both of those groups
would have been likely to play FF6 since it's a Final Fantasy game that
appeared on a Nintendo system. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/27/2006 8:18:49 PM | message detail |
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The split between generations this contest: ATARI ERA Luigi 8-BIT ERA Samus Aran Princess Peach Princess Daisy Zelda Carmen Sandiego Roll Solid Snake Ryu Hayabusa Ryu Mega Man Ganondorf Prince of Persia Bowser Alucard 16-BIT ERA Celes Chere Terra Branford Amy Rose Marle Chun-Li Yoshi Sonic the Hedgehog CATS Kirby Zero Crono Captain Falcon (debatable; he did not appear in-game, nor was he even mentioned, until F-Zero X) Sub-Zero 32/64-BIT ERA Nidoran F Ada Wong Lenneth Valkyrie Claire Redfield Tifa Lockheart Ivy Valentine Jill Valentine Sarah Kerrigan Aeris Joanna Dark Kasumi Lara Croft Squall Leonheart Tingle Gordon Freeman Vincent Valentine Leon Kennedy 128-BIT ERA Jade Rikku Kairi The Boss Sheena Fujibayashi KOS-MOS Yuna Cortana Alyx Vance Soma Cruz Tidus Riku Dante Sora Phoenix Wright Kratos Axel Auron Master Chief Luigi is the oldest character in the contest. Axel is the newest. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/27/2006 8:19:00 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't go as far to say there's no way (as I had Celes winning at
first), it's just that the odds favor The Boss more because she's
unknown, while it's likely Celes may suffer from Terra-syndrome. I
wouldn't be surprised if The Boss bombed. --- Moltar Status: Bracket filled and ready to go. 2006 is the year of Samus Aran |
| shadow8021 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:19:37 PM | message detail |
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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:19:38 PM | message detail |
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This reminds me of the Dante/Terra debates. How many pre-FF7 FF characters haven't tanked in their first go at this? ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:20:24 PM | message detail |
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I'd venture to guess that Final Fantasy VI has a higher playership rate on this site than Metal Gear Solid 3. --- "Who knew that head wounds bled so much?" ~ Kieran, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:20:30 PM | message detail |
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This reminds me of the Dante/Terra debates. How many pre-FF7 FF characters haven't tanked in their first go at this? Wario disappointed in his first contest appearance so Peach is primed for a first-round exit!!! --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:20:42 PM | message detail |
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And my reasoning for taking Celes (aside from my first thought when
rushing through my bracket) is that Kefka beat Pac-Man who beat Ocelot.
Unless you think Pac-Man boosted somehow, or Kefka dropped, I would
take Kefka over Ocelot, or at least very very close to him. The only other MGS character we can really use is Big Boss, who for the most part bombed. I'd say The Boss would be closer to Big Boss than Ocelot, and while Celes/Terra are probably weaker than Kefka, I can't see there being that much of a difference (what was it, 3% last year between Terra/Kefka?). Most people agree with this line of thought, but there are arguments on where exactly The Boss sits between Ocelot and Naked Snake. TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:21:40 PM | message detail |
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Something that I thought about: I think it's interesting we're the only "band" of people who do analyses...I'm surprised nobody else on the board collected afew people and made their own version, and even go so far as to compare how they do to how we do Because we sort of have the stats topic to discuss the contest. The analysis crew is great and all, but more often than not I just sort of skim through to the more individualized discussion posts. Isn't it more likely that everyone's going to produce valid points rather than six or seven people? And we sort of don't wait for the Analysis crew to spark discussion; a main reason I skim rather than am devoted to them is because, well, we've been doing what they're summarizing. That said, I don't think the Anaylsis Crew should stop, but I think more emphasis should be placed in activity outside this topic in order to suck in more people who don't normally frequent us here. I'm not going to lie, I'm also a fan of a more outside the stats topic viewpoint because then I don't have to feel like I should want to be on the analysis crew and beg to be on it. I don't think we need anything fostering "oh, well x and y is clearly a better poster, he should be on it. you in that corner there, you're not good enough, move on, move on,", etc. But that's just my opinion, I still respect the work Master Moltar puts into it. Also, it's fun putting some time into your post to have the topic be so five minutes ago by the time you post what you think. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| MnMZero | Posted 8/27/2006 8:22:00 PM | message detail |
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I never get why people expect so much from FF6 characters. I'm not expecting much out of Celes. I'm just also not expecting much out of The Boss. We write-off Terra because she ended up below the fodder line. But now that we have a half-bracket full of fodder, we actually have to look closer. Terra didn't do that badly. And I'm certainly not expecting much out of The Boss. The Boss and Celes are both only popular among their fanbases. A lot of people will be indifferent. Celes can very well pull more of the indifferent votes. The Boss is still the favorite, by recency alone, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Celes actually pulled out a win. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Mega Man X in Best. Series. Ever. Contest |
| shadow8021 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:22:18 PM | message detail |
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Well, we can debate about this all night, but the truth is that none of
us has the answer. Only the voters do. We are just left with opinions. Those said voters could ALSO be big MGS fans. We have no way of knowing until the polls are open. --- Character Battle Score: 0/0 Next Pick: lol Samus > Nidoran F |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:22:29 PM | message detail |
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You do realize I was joking right? lol utli lol bad trolling. One, learn how to spell if you're going to go after someone far smarter than you. You've never entered an argument without making all of the people unfortunate enough to agree with you cringe. Two, saying that you were joking after the fact is a pathetic attempt to save face. Shut up and go troll people that are stupid enough to not know exactly what you're doing. This is the wrong topic for you to try that garbage. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:23:04 PM | message detail |
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From Adept of Aiur Posted 8/27/2006 11:17:31 PM At the same time, these high vote totals have been getting attributed to Nintendo and maybe a little Kingdom Hearts 2. Both of those groups would have been likely to play FF6 since it's a Final Fantasy game that appeared on a Nintendo system. I wouldn't say that. Most of the extra votes from BSE will probably drop off due to school starting. Then again, the upcoming console releases might increase traffic. TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:23:35 PM | message detail |
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This seems like an excellent time to go to bed. Night all. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:23:58 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't say that. Most of the extra votes from BSE will probably drop off due to school starting. Then again, the upcoming console releases might increase traffic. I hope the votals stay high, but there's no real way of knowing. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| MnMZero | Posted 8/27/2006 8:24:16 PM | message detail |
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I think Big Boss getting into the last contest period is a good
indicator of what The Boss can do. I really doubt anyone playing MGS3
will go "Man, Big Boss kicks ass WOOT WOOT RAISE UP", but who knows. Seeing how most people who play MGS3 end up knowing that Naked Snake is Big Boss, I can see that happening. In fact, I'm willing to bet that a huge chunk of Big Boss's votes were because of MGS3. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Mega Man X in Best. Series. Ever. Contest |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 8/27/2006 8:24:43 PM | message detail |
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Inviso and Vlado on the crew actually made it exciting. It was so
interesting to find out how they could make excuses for their picks.
Better than "uh-oh, I'm boxed between 72.23 and 72.24 'cause everyone
is cookie cutter lawlz" And Marle has to be the most forgettable character in the contest. Every time I see her name I say, "whoa, I totally forgot she was in it." --- caps |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:25:21 PM | message detail |
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Wow Ulti, you're just a ray of sunshine today ^_^ TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/27/2006 8:26:14 PM | message detail |
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The smiliarities between The Boss and Big Boss begin and end at their names. No one looked at the old guy with the eyepatch last year and went, "WHOA! He's the guy from MGS3!" They just didn't. If you think they did, you're wrong. Big Boss' true appearances in the MG series are limited to being the final boss of the first two games. That's it. He has, like, two lines total. I may also remind you that the Big Boss as seen in his match pic artwork last year has never appeared in any game, in any form. The Boss, on the other hand, is one of the main characters of MGS3. Comparing the two is just stupid. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:26:26 PM | message detail |
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You know, for a second, I seriously forgot Alucard was in this contest. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:26:28 PM | message detail |
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And Marle has to be the most forgettable character in the contest. Along with Sora! *runs* Sora, Riku, Kairi and Axel all made it. God damn does that make me a happy man, because I seriously like all of them :) ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 8:26:34 PM | message detail |
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Seeing how most people who play MGS3 end up knowing that Naked Snake
is Big Boss, I can see that happening. In fact, I'm willing to bet that
a huge chunk of Big Boss's votes were because of MGS3. Wouldn't that mean Big Boss is The Boss' ceiling? --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 8:27:23 PM | message detail |
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From Phediuk Posted 8/27/2006 11:26:14 PM #189 The smiliarities between The Boss and Big Boss begin and end at their names. No one looked at the old guy with the eyepatch last year and went, "WHOA! He's the guy from MGS3!" They just didn't. If you think they did, you're wrong. Big Boss' true appearances in the MG series are limited to being the final boss of the first two games. That's it. He has, like, two lines total. I may also remind you that the Big Boss as seen in his match pic artwork last year has never appeared in any game, in any form. The Boss, on the other hand, is one of the main characters of MGS3. Comparing the two is just stupid. Yeah that's a better way of saying it than I ever could. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 8:28:57 PM | message detail |
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But is that difference enough to get past the Kefka barrier? (lol) TuRtLe ~~~ lol Z1mZum | BSE Contest final score: 61 pts Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V |
| MnMZero | Posted 8/27/2006 8:29:03 PM | message detail |
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No one looked at the old guy with the eyepatch last year and went,
"WHOA! He's the guy from MGS3!" They just didn't. If you think they
did, you're wrong. Wait, so you think MGS3 fans don't know that Naked Snake is Big Boss? You really insult the intelligence of MGS fans... I could see if you were making the case for non-fans.... --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Mega Man X in Best. Series. Ever. Contest |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/27/2006 8:29:04 PM | message detail |
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*also strongly agrees with Phediuk* --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 8:29:08 PM | message detail |
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This reminds me of the Dante/Terra debates. How many pre-FF7 FF characters haven't tanked in their first go at this? Now those were just insane. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/27/2006 8:29:29 PM | message detail |
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I'm just wondering who'll be stronger: The Boss or Big Boss? I've never played MGS3 so I wouldn't really know. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 8/27/2006 8:30:32 PM | message detail |
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Along with Sora! *runs* That too. Sora might have the most expected run ever in a contest. Or he could be typical contest-Sora and do something crazy and unexpected. But I doubt it. --- caps |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/27/2006 8:30:54 PM | message detail |
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Man, all this talk about retooling the Crew makes me want to do it right now. It's kinda unfair, but would anyone who's already said "yes" object to it? As long as no one has started their write-ups yet. --- Moltar Status: Bracket filled and ready to go. 2006 is the year of Samus Aran |