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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 349
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| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:12:06 PM | message detail |
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You have to be kidding if you consider AC sold about 6 times as much
as DMC: SE (plus, it's a movie: of the +55% of people that have watched
AC, only like 25% actually bought it). I wouldn't account for the leak to do much of anything. I don't have the poll on hand, but if my memory serves me, nearly all of the people who were interested in seeing the movie had already seen it thanks to the leak. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| cyko | Posted 8/27/2006 1:12:21 PM | message detail |
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so, after catching up on 1000 posts of contest discussion and perusing the bracket, here's what i think: female side: - hmph. pretty dull overall. Ceej really should have paired more new characters against each other; one or two entire 4-packs made up entirely of untested characters would have been excellent. - of the three matches between untested characters, only one is seriously difficult: Celes vs. The Boss. - there's no way that an ugly character from Beyond Good and Evil will beat a hotter character from a far more established series. HTF did the main character from Beyond Good and Evil pull a 5 seed anyways? who rallied for Jade? - Cortana and Joanna do seem pretty similar, but the finished version of Joanna looks way better than her 2K5 version and the hologram of Cortana. Cortana just looks plain scary. plus - people don't play Halo 2 for the story nearly as much as they play Halo 2 for multiplayer on X-Box live. therefore, Cortana's role is greatly reduced. - Peach and Kairi are the only other two wild cards. Kairi could lose in the first round or make the Sweet 16 with ease. *shrugs* Peach won't lose in the first round, but she could lose to Jill.... or, by some strange twist of fate, she could be stronger than Luigi and make a run at Tifa. unlikely, but possible. SSBM is a beast and she did get Super Princess Peach..... - then there's Zelda vs. Aeris. and that's about the last of the interesting female matches. Male Bracket - - man, so much wasted match potential - Bowser, Squall, Leon, Auron, MC, Alucard, Tidus, Ryu, etc..... - Crono's Division is obscenely easy to predict. yeesh. - the only semi-good 4 vs 5 match is Phoenix vs. Gordon. most of me wants to write off Phoenix immediately. but Phoenix WILL NOT be uber-fodder. unlike King of All Cosmos, Phoenix actually has the match pics for casual appeal. his anime-style look will get him more votes than most fodder, but i'm not so sure that it will be enough to topple Gordon.... - well, hey, at least there are three really good 4-packs: Riku/Yoshi/Dante, Kirby/Luigi/Zero, and Sonic/Ganon/Vincent. - i see a lot of talk about Ganon over Sonic (okay, maybe it's just HM, but............ whatever..........) and i can see that as a viable possibility. Ganon and Bowser have been placed BARELY below Snake AND Sonic since before SC2K5 by many people in here. any shift in voters and even a gust of wind could push Ganon past Sonic. - HOWEVER!! i don't see anyone talking about how Vincent has just as much of a chance at beating both Ganon AND Sonic. after beating Squall and Dante and doing very respectably against Crono, Vincent was already at or slightly above the level of Ganon and Bowser. THEN he got Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus. despite DoC's mediocre gameplay, every review i've read about it said that it does have a good story and expands Vincent's character quite nicely. all of that points to an almost certain boost for Vincent. - i was one of the very few to take Vincent to win his Division last year and i am taking Vincent to win his division again this year!!! overall, a mediocre bracket at this point. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. if you won't nominate Bahamut, then nominate Jeane from Suikoden! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:12:35 PM | message detail |
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The most notable launch title on the PS3 is Sonic the Hedgehog. The
others are like Resistance, Warhawk, Call of Duty 3, Fatal Interia, and
so on. Nothing too much. --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:12:50 PM | message detail |
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If the Nintendo Boost continues as a result of Nintendo's dominant
performance at E3, then he may be able to see something slight...but
I'm not banking on it. What I do doubt is DoC's ability to do much of
anything given how poorly the game is received overall. This is not
entirely from critics, but the FFVII fans who have played the game and
thought it was awful. Now Advent Children is a tricky situation...but I'm rather confident in Ganon pulling it out. I have not yet gone and done the research needed to have something to really counter this yet, but it'll be coming soon!! I've mentioned it before but the reader reviews are pretty satisfying. Gamespot has it at 79%, IGN at 84%. But seriously the exposure. Through adds and everything, remember? Dammit HM you're supposed to be arguing for Vincent! But I'm not saying I think it'll be doing a whole lot either. I'm putting my money on AC. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 1:13:40 PM | message detail |
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From MarioSuperstar Posted 8/27/2006 3:23:13 PM #296 What if Zero vs Mario was legit though? It reminds me of the Tidus situation. DING DING DING! That's why I have Kirby winning. Kirby's "WTF overperformance?" match was far more recent than Zero's, also. Regardless I like Zero better as a character, so I don't care if he costs me two points. IT'S NOT OVER YET! ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:14:07 PM | message detail |
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If you cared enough to download the leaked version, you were probably
voting for the Final Fantasy VII characters in the first place. Wait a minute... I don't even know which side I'm arguing for. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:16:31 PM | message detail |
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So awards thus far: Magus Award for Flopping Hard: 2002 - Gordon Freeman 2003 - Luigi Games - Kingdom Hearts 2004 - Viewtiful Joe Villains - Kuja 2005 - Magus Series - Grand Theft Auto 2006 - ? Starcraft Award for Great and/or Unexpected Runs: 2002 - Scorpion/Crono 2003 - Magus/Cloud/Squall Games - Starcraft 2004 - Frog/Sora Villains - Diablo 2005 - Vincent Valentine Series - Castlevania 2006 - ? Tanner Award for placing last statistically: 2002 - Mr. Driller 2003 - Mr. Resetti Games - Adventure 2004 - Tanner Villains - Officer Tenpenny 2005 - Yuri Hyuga Series - Shadow Hearts 2006 - ? I can't think of much more. Anyone want to contribute something? --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 1:16:40 PM | message detail |
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Eh, not only would I take Snake > Sonic in 2k3, I'd take Snake >
Sonic in 2k2, mostly due to where I think Mario's placement is that
year -- I'd take him to beat Sephiroth in a not *too* close match. And Sonic the Hedgehog is launch? Wow...see, now it would have been a 'shakeup' if we had that being released while Sonic was still in the running to win this thing -- Sonic > Crono probably seems a lot more enticing if it takes place around that game's release, doesn't it? --- Commit it to memory. |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:16:51 PM | message detail |
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Jade>cyko. >_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:17:29 PM | message detail |
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I don't have the poll on hand, but if my memory serves me, nearly
all of the people who were interested in seeing the movie had already
seen it thanks to the leak. I've looked into it, and only found a post-NA release poll. I'd find that extremely interesting to see though. But I just go from personal experience. I hadn't even seen the movie at the time despite being a major AC fan. And I showed it to my friends way after the contest too. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:19:01 PM | message detail |
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I've looked into it, and only found a post-NA release poll. I'd find
that extremely interesting to see though. But I just go from personal
experience. I hadn't even seen the movie at the time despite being a
major AC fan. And I showed it to my friends way after the contest too. Hooray anecdotal evidence! And I know for a fact there was a poll sometime before the NA official release. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:19:02 PM | message detail |
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Err, major FFVII fan. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:19:40 PM | message detail |
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If PS3 release before Sonic/Crono I take Sonic. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:20:06 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why Zelda would be any stronger this year than she was
the previous year besides a continued Nintendo boost. Aeris at least
has things like KH2 and AC. She didn't receive much of a boost (2.19%) when there was that massive Square influx in 2003 thanks to Kingdom Hearts. Even when Square was getting crazy boosts left and right, her's was rather tame in comparison. If the role is more important in KH2 than it was in KH, which I would assume so since I doubt we're going to see a massive Square influx again, then Aerith would get even less of a boost from that and her role in Advent Children -- while pretty significant when looking at the grand story -- was rather...tiny. She appeared in only a few scenes, and never really did much that would be deemed "cool." It is definitely understandable why someone would choose Aerith, especially when she's got that in her corner, but I think all of the advantages point to Zelda. People talk about taking the Nintendo character in a very close, very debatable match -- Zelda's favor. You also have to worry about Twilight Princess being out, which is in all likelihood will be -- Zelda's favor. And then you have to consider how much of a boost Aerith is going to get out of those two things (let's say 2% from both), that puts Aerith winning with 51.58% by the stats. Certainly good if you're thinking Aerith will win...but it's worth considering the whole picture. --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| luigi4500 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:20:27 PM | message detail |
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Claire vs. Kairi? --- People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 1:20:56 PM | message detail |
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Kairi could lose in the first round or make the Sweet 16 with ease. WTF --- Commit it to memory. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/27/2006 1:21:02 PM | message detail |
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Regardless I like Zero better as a character, so I don't care if he costs me two points. IT'S NOT OVER YET! Damn right! I'm probably too biased to him at this point, but I've played a lotta MMXC, Kirby Superstar, and NSMB the last couple of months, so its all good. --- I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator! Dagan Bomb For The WIN! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:21:12 PM | message detail |
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She didn't receive much of a boost (2.19%) when there was that massive Square influx in 2003 thanks to Kingdom Hearts. *thanks to higher votals. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:21:22 PM | message detail |
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Sonic > Crono probably seems a lot more enticing if it takes place around that game's release, doesn't it? Not when Sonic lost in the last round! --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:21:50 PM | message detail |
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Kairi! --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:22:05 PM | message detail |
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Hooray anecdotal evidence! And I know for a fact there was a poll sometime before the NA official release. You're damn right. Isn't it logical though? If nothing else, the movie still sold 1,200,000 copies already in NA. Are you saying the leak accounted for more than that? Come on now. Anyway, ctrl + f TRE's list: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2357 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2288 Nothing interesting there. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:22:06 PM | message detail |
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*thanks to higher votals. Uh huh. --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:22:57 PM | message detail |
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Oh wait yeah it is! Well pre-contest: AC 18.69% post-contest +45% (with 10 more coming up) --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 1:23:21 PM | message detail |
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If Ms. "The Biggest Thing I Did In KH2 Was Randomly Get a Schoolgirl
Uniform" was able to make the Sweet Sixteen, I'd shake my fist at my
computer screen! --- Commit it to memory. |
| cyko | Posted 8/27/2006 1:23:52 PM | message detail |
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Kairi could lose in the first round or make the Sweet 16 with ease. WTF well, okay, maybe not with ease. if Kairi does manage to beat Rikku, i doubt that it would be by a whole lot. but Kingdom Hearts is freakishly popular on thi site right now. even Axel made the bracket. FREAKING AXEL!!! so, if KH is bigger than FFX at the moment, Kairi could pull that one off. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:24:51 PM | message detail |
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if Kairi does manage to beat Rikku, That is not happening today, tomorrow, or even on the day that KH3 releases. --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 1:24:54 PM | message detail |
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Remember Sora/Aeris? Yeah...I'd still struggle on Sora/Tidus to be honest, there's no way I'm taking Kairi to beat Rikku. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:25:36 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2357 Which means more people saw it then will potentially be the owners of it, and it did absolutely nothing when leaked mid-contest, the best time to witness any sort of boosts thanks to everyone being nutty over it. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| cyko | Posted 8/27/2006 1:25:40 PM | message detail |
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Jade>cyko. >_> so, i take it Mr. Wavedash is behind some of this Jade nonsense? <_< --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:26:25 PM | message detail |
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Hey wait that's not even pre-contest. That's post-contest as well. So, it's safe to assume that *only* about 33% of gameFAQs watched AC through the leak (doesn't even mean before Vincent-Crono). --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 1:26:45 PM | message detail |
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and it did absolutely nothing when leaked mid-contest y helo thar potential Vincent overperformance --- Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 1:26:49 PM | message detail |
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My logic on Vincent/Ganon is a lot simpler than what everyone else keeps saying. I wouldn't pick Vincent to beat Bowser. I like both characters a lot, so I really don't care who wins. If I had a favorites bracket, I'd probably slightly root for Vince. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| luigi4500 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:26:50 PM | message detail |
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Is resident Evil coming out with a new game? and if so would that give claire a boost? --- People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:27:45 PM | message detail |
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y helo thar potential Vincent overperformance Yet Cloud feels nothing? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| cyko | Posted 8/27/2006 1:28:45 PM | message detail |
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yeah, but what does Rikku have going for her? she's a scantily clad, ditzy blonde from a major Square RPG. anything i'm missing? Kairi is a scantily clad schoolgirl from a major Square RPG. yeah, there's that whole being a playable character thing....... but at the moment, Kingdom Hearts is HUGELY popular. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:28:59 PM | message detail |
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Which means more people saw it then will potentially be the owners of it Which is pretty characteristic for a movie. But just compare the 2 polls. 18.69% watched the film through the leak, 37% waited for the DVD release. and it did absolutely nothing when leaked mid-contest, the best time to witness any sort of boosts thanks to everyone being nutty over it. Again, the leak is hardly comparable to the actual release, despite the "hype" obviously dying down. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:29:04 PM | message detail |
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My logic on Vincent/Ganon is a lot simpler than what everyone else keeps saying. I wouldn't pick Vincent to beat Bowser. A lot of people wouldn't pick Ganon to beat Bowser either. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| luigi4500 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:29:26 PM | message detail |
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oh no thats not what i mean i mean claire vs. kairi --- People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/27/2006 1:29:56 PM | message detail |
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she's a scantily clad, ditzy blonde from a major Square RPG. anything i'm missing? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2081 --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| transience | Posted 8/27/2006 1:29:58 PM | message detail |
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Kairi is going to be weak. Rikku would probably beat Riku, who would beat Kairi. no way does Kiri get 45% on Ryu. --- iddqd "MY SLEEPING PATTERNS ARE SHOT THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR FANFICTION" -windmage |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:30:00 PM | message detail |
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My logic for Rikku > Kairi: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2081 --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:31:02 PM | message detail |
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Which is pretty characteristic for a movie. But just compare the 2 polls. 18.69% watched the film through the leak, 37% waited for the DVD release. You assume that the percent that viewed it did so thanks to the DVD being released. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| VectorAgent | Posted 8/27/2006 1:31:40 PM | message detail |
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So HM really thinks Ganondorf will beat Sonic? The same guy who thought Star Ocean would beat Pokemon? --- CHARACTER BATTLE V: Samus Aran > Crono. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/27/2006 1:33:05 PM | message detail |
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About Ganon/Vincent, I don't think Advent Children will mean much to
Vincent by the time that match rolls around. Advent Children has pretty
much come and gone. Vincent's role in the movie wasn't really something
to make people like
him better to where they would vote him over Ganon when they wouldn't
before. If Advent Children was going to make a splash in his strength,
it would be to bringing FFVII fans on the site to talk about it. But
the buzz seems to be pretty much dead right now, at least from what I'm
seeing. I'd bank on Dirge of Cerberus doing more for Vincent, and if it's true about FFVII fans themselves not caring much for it, that won't be a big splash for Vincent as well. Although, I think that just seeing Vincent and him getting a nice new 3D look ought to do something for him. So the jury's still out for me... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 1:33:56 PM | message detail |
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So HM really thinks Ganondorf will beat Sonic? The same guy who thought Star Ocean would beat Pokemon? Star Ocean should have beat Pokemon you heathen! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| cyko | Posted 8/27/2006 1:34:08 PM | message detail |
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i'm not saying Kairi has a guaranteed victory or anything like that,
but i am saying that it is POSSIBLE for her to beat Rikku based on the
fact that we have ZERO match history for Kairi. noone, not even HM, has
solid 100% evidence that Kairi will fail. she very well could fail -
heck she might not even make it past Claire. but Kairi is an untested character from an extremely popular game in a weak to mid-strength bracket, therefore making her an unpredictable wild card. --- i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest. Vincent Valentine to win the Blast Division!! |
| transience | Posted 8/27/2006 1:35:19 PM | message detail |
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I could say the same thing about Ada Wong, but that doesn't mean she's going to beat Tifa or whoever she's against. --- iddqd "MY SLEEPING PATTERNS ARE SHOT THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR FANFICTION" -windmage |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/27/2006 1:35:24 PM | message detail |
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You assume that the percent that viewed it did so thanks to the DVD being released. Actually, I don't. Then I'd be saying +55% watched it through the DVD. The polls are pretty clear. 18.69% saw the film before it being released (thus they saw the leak). The rest was waiting for the release. After the release, over +55% has seen the film. +55% - 18.69% = 37% that has seen the film thanks to the DVD, about twice as much as there are people that have seen it through the leak. Also, the leak was just out when Vincent faced Crono. I saw the film through the leak, but well after Vincent-Crono (lol anecdotal). It is safe to assume many of the other 18.69% did so as well, and the ones that didn't were probably going to vote for Vincent anyway. --- "The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name." - Stronghold architect, journal. |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/27/2006 1:36:36 PM | message detail |
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Alright, fun little game to play to pass time, Predict the X-Stats. #1 to #64, no Battle Royale. Mine'll be up in a sec. *Yoshifan* |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2006 1:36:46 PM | message detail |
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From therealmnm Posted 8/27/2006 4:33:05 PM #444 About Ganon/Vincent, I don't think Advent Children will mean much to Vincent by the time that match rolls around. Advent Children has pretty much come and gone. Vincent's role in the movie wasn't really something to make people like him better to where they would vote him over Ganon when they wouldn't before. If Advent Children was going to make a splash in his strength, it would be to bringing FFVII fans on the site to talk about it. But the buzz seems to be pretty much dead right now, at least from what I'm seeing. I'd bank on Dirge of Cerberus doing more for Vincent, and if it's true about FFVII fans themselves not caring much for it, that won't be a big splash for Vincent as well. Although, I think that just seeing Vincent and him getting a nice new 3D look ought to do something for him. So the jury's still out for me... Hey the match will be close either way. I'm just annoyed when people take hard matches and act like they're mortal locks. You'd think the stats topic getting embarrassed time and time again for doing that would have taught these people something. I know I've stopped doing it. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |