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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 349

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/27/2006 10:06:45 AM | message detail
From: BlAcK TuRtLe
GF/PW is probably my toughest choice right now.

My head says go with Gordon, but then the little voice starts screaming the names Tina Armstrong, Sam Fisher and Max Payne.....

I'm completely torn =(


TuRtLe


Sam Fisher and Payne would probably beat PW. Dunno about Tina, but we know 2k2 can't be taken too seriously.
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Super Luigi | Posted 8/27/2006 10:16:46 AM | message detail
What's a good tiebreaker to put?
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 10:17:07 AM | message detail
What's a good tiebreaker to put?

36
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jonthomson | Posted 8/27/2006 10:17:52 AM | message detail
I put 80k, but will probably scale that down a lot. Haven't checked whether it's for Samus/Crono or Cloud/Link.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:19:07 AM | message detail
GF/PW will be like Pac-Man/Ocelot, we'll know if PW might pull off the upset 5 min. before the match..
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/27/2006 10:19:23 AM | message detail
I put 75000. Anyone else think the votes will drop a bit because of the fall?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:20:35 AM | message detail
It's for Samus/Crono.

I figure that the match will probably at least pull in 140k
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:22:11 AM | message detail
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jonthomson | Posted 8/27/2006 10:23:01 AM | message detail
Samus/Crono? I'll probably go for around 68k
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:23:08 AM | message detail
From Super Luigi Posted 8/27/2006 1:16:46 PM
What's a good tiebreaker to put?

42. Seriously, I used it since SC2k4, and since then, I have a higher winning percentage than most of this board >_>

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/27/2006 10:25:04 AM | message detail
65000 was mine. Votes are more than likely going to drop off a bit from the July contest.


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jonthomson | Posted 8/27/2006 10:31:13 AM | message detail
Definitely going to have to take time over this one. I have Kirby making round 3 right now.
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Link2dapast | Posted 8/27/2006 10:33:25 AM | message detail
GF/PW is definitely the toughest 1st round match to predict aside from Ganon/Vincent.

If it were last year, I'd take Ganon by a slight amount since I actually think Samus SFF'd him being the superior character in terms of strength (Samus vs Mario is the only exception I guess). This year, most people think Vincent would have a boost in strength, which he problably does, but just the hype from TP gives the entire Zelda trio and game series a boost. Link gets a picture and trailer from TP, wins two times in a row never looking back vs Cloud in both polls. Zelda beats FF with no new installments even with FF getting AC, DoC, FF12 (in japan) and god knows how many other add-ons.

My point is, Zelda is the superior series on this site so counting out the Ganon/Vincent match because GFNW concerns most of us here is ludicrous. The winner of that match could very well take that division and cause turmoil to any bracket. All Ganon needs is a set TP date and a picture/anything showing him in TP, and I think he ousts Vincent. Then TP comes out, and it's goodnight Sonic, the upset of the tournament.
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voltch | Posted 8/27/2006 10:33:37 AM | message detail
where's magus/knuckles/shadow/frog?
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Nyah | Posted 8/27/2006 10:41:15 AM | message detail
If Luigi pulls off a win against Zero, I have a hard time believing he'll lose to Kirby.
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luigi4500 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:45:25 AM | message detail
snake vs yoshi?
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_Harmonica_ | Posted 8/27/2006 10:46:23 AM | message detail
Snake, easily.
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luigi4500 | Posted 8/27/2006 10:53:09 AM | message detail
pheonix vs gordan?
Dante vs. yoshi?

those are my toughest choices..
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Big Bob | Posted 8/27/2006 10:58:56 AM | message detail
You know, the Blast division is just GOLD. It's going to be the deciding factor of the contest.
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_Archvile_ | Posted 8/27/2006 11:00:12 AM | message detail
Does anyone have the bracket in a printable form? I despise logging in and out of my main to view it.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:10:39 AM | message detail
After going through the bracket this morning (feel a whole hell of a lot better today), is it me, or does the bracket suck?

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:21:25 AM | message detail
10 minutes without a response during the contest season? OMG WTF. *goes to read the topics since the bracket came out*

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:24:22 AM | message detail
One more thing to say before I go.

*notices Kratos (GoW) seed, looks back at PoP's seed*

**** you Ceej, **** you.

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_Archvile_ | Posted 8/27/2006 11:26:30 AM | message detail
Like I said before, the bracket is fantastic in terms of difficulty, but crappy in terms of the unwanted characters tha made it and for the lack of tradition (snubs, GFW, etc).
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wavedash101 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:28:31 AM | message detail
But GFNW..... ;_;
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 11:30:12 AM | message detail
...why are people still hung up on thinking Phoenix Wright is popular here? It's for the DS, a popular system, wonderful. So are a TON of unpopular games. The platform doesn't stop people from being the most abject of fodder. Tanner is centered on the PS2, the most popular system here.

The game isn't popular, the fad will be more or less meaningless, and PW will be bottom of the barrel fodder. If CATS were facing PW, the entire board would be all over that, and we know it. It's the concept of GFNW that keeps people from picking Gordon, and not much more.
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_Archvile_ | Posted 8/27/2006 11:31:08 AM | message detail
I picked Phoenix just out of principle, but I know he will probably lose 70-30.
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:31:08 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright will probably hold the lead for one update, then drop like a Thai hooker.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/27/2006 11:32:18 AM | message detail
After going through the bracket this morning (feel a whole hell of a lot better today), is it me, or does the bracket suck?

Nah, it's pretty tough to predict and honestly, that's all I really care about.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/27/2006 11:34:05 AM | message detail
I pretty much look at him as another King of All Cosmos. Fodder on an unpopular system.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/27/2006 11:34:21 AM | message detail
I mean, popular system.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:37:49 AM | message detail
Debatable matches in my eyes, using the male side only, because the female side wants to make me gouge my eyes out:

Ganon/Vincent - Projected Winner: Ganon
Luigi/Zero - Projected Winner: Luigi
MC/Subby - Projected Winner: MC (I didn't really look at this match as difficult, it's just a bad feeling I have, dunno really)
Snake/Squall - Projected Winner: Snake
Yoshi/Dante - Projected Winner Due To Horrible Bias: Dante
Sonic/Ganon - Projected Winner: Sonic
Kirby/Luigi - Projected Winner: Kirby (Y halo thar odd upset pick)
Auron/MC - Projected Winner: Auron (I really only included it because of lol x-stats, but meh)
Mega Man/Snake - Projected Winner: Mega Man
Sonic/Crono - Projected Winner: Crono
Mega Man/Crono - Projected Winner: Mega Man (lololol)
Mega Man/Samus - Projected Winner: Samus (>_> @ KH)

Matches that I might change:

Ganon/Vincent
Luigi/Zero
Kirby/Luigi

Matches I probably will change:

Dante/Yoshi (Damn my weak fanboyism!)
Mega Man/Crono

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:39:18 AM | message detail
If PW faced CATS, I'd take CATS without another question, anyone hyping of PW/GF is doing it only for the sake of hilarity, seriously thinking PW has a shot is just delusional.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:40:53 AM | message detail
Oh, and Nintendo really needs to specify their launch date before September 10th.

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Kaxon | Posted 8/27/2006 11:42:39 AM | message detail
I'm taking Phoenix.

Gordon Freeman has always risen (or fallen) to the level of his competition, and I don't think that's coincidence - I think it reflects the size of the PC fanbase, as some (Haste2?) already mentioned. This is the guy that lost to Sam Fisher, Max Payne, and Tina Armstrong, and I don't think one game has transformed him that much. I know I'd take Phoenix over Max and Tina in a heartbeat. Additionally, Gordon's only respectable performace was last year when he had this picture:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=29

If Ceej decides to return to the full body picture format, and Gordon looks like this:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=32

While Phoenix looks like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B000EOTWSI/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4236567-8550060?ie=UTF8

I think we can safely say that Phoenix will have the pic advantage.
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wavedash101 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:43:59 AM | message detail
*agrees with Klaxon*
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:45:13 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright has sold rougly the same amount of copies as Panzer Dragoon Saga, four.

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_Archvile_ | Posted 8/27/2006 11:45:26 AM | message detail
Ganon/Vincent - Projected Winner: Vincent (DoC gives me hope))
Luigi/Zero - Projected Winner: Zero (I'd put Zero just under Squall, who demolished Luigi. Plus, SFF may come into play)
MC/Subby - Projected Winner: MC (I bet Halo fans are former MK fans, so MC should win with relative ease)
Snake/Squall - Projected Winner: Snake (this is not tough at all)
Yoshi/Dante - Projected Winner: Yoshi (not really that difficult after the Nintendo surge)
Sonic/Vincent - Projected Winner: Sonic (this match will be a bigger win than Crono/Vincent)
Kirby/Zero - Projected Winner: Kirby (Kirby will just barely edge out Zero, methinks)
Auron/MC - Projected Winner: Auron (lol x-stats)
Mega Man/Snake - Projected Winner: Mega Man (not hard)
Sonic/Crono - Projected Winner: Crono (not hard)
Mega Man/Crono - Projected Winner: Crono (uh... last year ppl)
Crono/Samus - Projected Winner: Samus (Crono has lost too much steam)

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:46:30 AM | message detail
I know I'd take Phoenix over Max and Tina in a heartbeat.

I sure as hell wouldn't, Phoenix is going to be fodder, and not just any fodder, bottom feeder fodder. The only thing he has going for him is a fad, and that's on the boards, most of the voters don't even go to the boards.

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Redtooth | Posted 8/27/2006 11:47:33 AM | message detail
Truthfully, I doubt PW has a chance. I'm actually guessing he'll get doubled. Yet, I refuse to give Gordon Freeman the win. No matter who he would have faced, I'm leaving him as the loser. Laugh if you will, but I'm at least going to hope this match is close. At least then, everyone can enjoy it =D.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 11:47:46 AM | message detail
Fodder on a popular system is one thing. I'm talking PW being total, abject, bottom of the barrel fodder. What makes PW more popular than Disgaea? They're both in almost the exact same boat (adored cult classics, not enough copies made, getting a sequel brought over due to mass outcry). Laharl is a bottom five character in 2k5, and I could never bring myself to take Laharl over Gordon Freeman, even if I only had the 2k4 stats to work off of (where Laharl is a smidge above GF, for the slow).
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:48:06 AM | message detail
Snake/Squall - Projected Winner: Snake (this is not tough at all)

Snake is my favorite character, followed by Squall, and I'd hate to see the N9 taken down, but nothing would make me happier than to see Squall take out Snake so I could laugh at everyone in here, granted I'd have taken Snake too, but it would be a moral victory!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 11:49:51 AM | message detail
If Squall really did underperform in 2k2 due to some weird MGS > FF8 SFF, that should be one of the easiest picks ever. You're basically taking two things that Snake has overperformed on -- FF8 and KH -- and hoping that adding them together gives Squall the win.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 11:51:30 AM | message detail
Oh, and I would *never* take Phoenix over any of the characters GF has lost to. I'd take Sam and Max (LOL) to brutalize him, and even Tina should pull it out (she has kept up a stream of newer games y'know, I'd actually expect her to be stronger today than she was in 2k2).
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/27/2006 11:52:58 AM | message detail
I don't actually think Squall will win there, but I don't think you can write it off entirely.

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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/27/2006 11:54:08 AM | message detail
I'm telling you guys, Zero is gonna put on some Barry Bonds steroids and tear up that Blast Division like no tomorrow.

-Hiko
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/27/2006 11:55:08 AM | message detail
Heh, people are trying to rally for Phoenix on wikipedia.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/27/2006 11:56:13 AM | message detail
I suppose Squall has about as much chance of beating Snake as Bowser does of beating Crono. Seriously, you've got to convince me that firstly, his 2k5 standing is completely legit, not a smidge of overrating happening there. Then you've got to say KH2 is going to boost him up over Snake. Then, you've got to bank on Snake not overperforming on him in the slightest. It won't be in the sprite round, Snake will be the MASSIVE favorite, and all the intangibles will be in Snake's corner.

...so yeah. I guess it's not impossible, but...
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_Archvile_ | Posted 8/27/2006 11:56:26 AM | message detail
I'll point this out for discussion:

MC/Subby - Projected Winner: MC (I bet Halo fans are former MK fans, so MC should win with relative ease)

As much as I hate generalizations, the people who are fans of Master Chief were probably the same kids that bough MK1-3 in order to watch the bloody Fatalities and such. Bizarre-SFF FTW.
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MrPatch | Posted 8/27/2006 11:56:57 AM | message detail
I have a question for all of you. Do you guys think that Sonic is a big underachiever? I really think Sonic could've done better in a lot of these contests but he always rolls up on a bad draw in the later rounds. His contest losses look like this:

Samus (Twice), Cloud, Mega Man.

One of his matches with Samus was extremely close (lost by less than 50). And the match with Mega Man was pretty close too.
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