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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/26/2006 8:21:41 PM | message detail
So. Many. Snubs.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html


!yawa tsoP
swirIdude | Posted 8/26/2006 8:22:00 PM | message detail
Tell. Me. About. It.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/26/2006 8:22:28 PM | message detail
Now that the bracket´s out...

Inequalities!

Phoenix Wright > Gordon Freeman
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 8:22:43 PM | message detail
Poor Shadow...
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junglebob22 | Posted 8/26/2006 8:23:17 PM | message detail
So..when do we start the Guru Contest?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 8:23:26 PM | message detail
Ganon > Sonic.

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SilverNightmareX7 | Posted 8/26/2006 8:24:18 PM | message detail
Vincent > Ganon
Vincent > Quite a few #2 seeds as well.
Evil_REmade | Posted 8/26/2006 8:24:30 PM | message detail
We all knew there would be snubs. We have close matches, and that's all that really matters.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/26/2006 8:32:01 PM | message detail
Yoshi = Dante

This match has me torn. ;_;
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smitelf | Posted 8/26/2006 8:32:21 PM | message detail
Hardest Round 1 matches to predict:

#5. Luigi vs. Zero
#4. Gordon Freeman vs. Phoenix Wright
#3. The Boss vs. Celes Chere
#2. Kairi vs. Claire Redfield
#1. Vincent Valentine vs. Ganondorf
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/26/2006 8:32:49 PM | message detail
Tingle > Sora!

...

Nah.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/26/2006 8:33:50 PM | message detail
Bowser > Crono
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LotteryTicket | Posted 8/26/2006 8:35:07 PM | message detail
You should get rid of the Top 100 Games link.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/26/2006 8:35:10 PM | message detail
Zero > Kirby!!!!! (one can hope =( )


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DeepHyren12 | Posted 8/26/2006 8:54:14 PM | message detail
HAY GUYZ GORDON FREEMAN NEVER WINZ LOLOL.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 8:58:30 PM | message detail
Vincent > Ganon

LOL YOUR BRACKET.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/26/2006 10:17:26 PM | message detail
From DeepHyren12 Posted 8/26/2006 11:54:14 PM #015
HAY GUYZ GORDON FREEMAN NEVER WINZ LOLOL.

Gordon Freeman is in the most winnable match he'll ever see, and I have him winning it in my bracket.

But if he actually fails to win, especially after Half-Life 2, he will go down as the single biggest contest joke of all time. Tina Armstrong would have absolutely nothing on this.

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BlastTheSpeaker | Posted 8/26/2006 10:18:08 PM | message detail
Zero > Sonic WTF LOL
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Pikawil100 | Posted 8/26/2006 10:21:03 PM | message detail
Hmm, if Shadow made the cut, do you think that his game, being generally considered a failure, would be a boost or obstacle for him?
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 10:32:47 PM | message detail
http://f5.putfile.com/5/13001035627.gif


Link plans to be so mean this year!

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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 8/26/2006 10:41:39 PM | message detail
http://www.elevenland.com/amano/view.php3?picName=Ceres+Chere&picImage=jCeresChereVI.jpg




Celes is fortunate to be one of the few examples of pretty good amano artwork
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/26/2006 10:41:50 PM | message detail
From Pikawil100 Posted 8/27/2006 1:21:03 AM #019
Hmm, if Shadow made the cut, do you think that his game, being generally considered a failure, would be a boost or obstacle for him?

Dante went up after DMC2.

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Chinballz | Posted 8/26/2006 10:41:56 PM | message detail
What I want to know is how Axel got in over Roxas.
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swirIdude | Posted 8/26/2006 10:42:20 PM | message detail
Therefore, Shadow could star in a game in which his main attack is to fling poo and he'd increase.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/26/2006 10:42:41 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Vincent will do better against Ganon than Sonic will.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/26/2006 10:43:25 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'll say it right now: Sonic's my upset special. He'll beat Crono and the winner of Snake/Mega Man. But lose to Samus.
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Gamer SDP | Posted 8/26/2006 10:44:22 PM | message detail
tag
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/26/2006 10:44:54 PM | message detail
Dante went up after DMC2.

DMC2 was mediocre. ShtH was utter crap. There is a difference.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/26/2006 10:45:47 PM | message detail
Crap.

July stat page is broken. Anyone know the prediction percentages on the final five matches?

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creativename | Posted 8/26/2006 10:45:56 PM | message detail
Peach vs. Jill is a tough match. There's always a chance Peach will flop, and RE has become more popular around here (though I don't know if this would benefit Jill, as she apparently wasn't in RE4). I picked Peach though.

I'm assuming that Zelda will be the favorite against Aeris, especially since it should be post-Twilight Princess. However I think Aeris is a bit above Zelda pre-Twilight Princess, and we also haven't seen Aeris in a while. She could be slightly stronger than she was.

My bracket finals are Samus vs. Crono. Sonic/Mega Man could beat Crono based off volatility alone, but I'll go with Crono. Samus/Crono has me torn though. I'll probably go with Crono off favoritism, but Samus makes a lot of sense, and she's going to have MP3 too.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 10:46:28 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: Vincent will do better against Ganon than Sonic will.

If he does, that'll be because of the monster -- Triforce Ganon -- he'll become. We're going to see two drastically different Ganons in this contest, which is why the stats will be pretty screwy for someone like Vincent. The same thing with Zelda.

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BlastTheSpeaker | Posted 8/26/2006 10:46:29 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'll say it right now: Sonic's my upset special. He'll beat Crono and the winner of Snake/Mega Man. But lose to Samus.

And your basing a big boost for Sonic on what exactly?
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 10:47:34 PM | message detail
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marioinblack | Posted 8/26/2006 10:48:00 PM | message detail
Crono/Samus is interesting. Two years ago I'd of not hesitated on Crono, but there is the Nintendo factor.

And am I the only one that thinks Vincent will beat Ganon?

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charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2006 10:48:01 PM | message detail
If Freeman overperformed because he had the Half-Life symbol in his picture and Obection would probably make PW stronger than KoAC then PW might be able to pull off the upset, but like I said PW would have to have everything going for him while Freeman would have to have nothing going for him.

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swirIdude | Posted 8/26/2006 10:48:09 PM | message detail
He needs only a small boost to reach Crono's level.
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creativename | Posted 8/26/2006 10:48:47 PM | message detail
And am I the only one that thinks Vincent will beat Ganon?

Despite the hype, I'm fairly confident Vincent beats Ganon.

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swirIdude | Posted 8/26/2006 10:49:04 PM | message detail
like I said PW would have to have everything going for him while Freeman would have to have nothing going for him.

mmhmm.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 10:49:11 PM | message detail
From smitelf | Posted 8/26/2006 10:32:21 PM | #010
Hardest Round 1 matches to predict:

#5. Luigi vs. Zero
#4. Gordon Freeman vs. Phoenix Wright
#3. The Boss vs. Celes Chere
#2. Kairi vs. Claire Redfield
#1. Vincent Valentine vs. Ganondorf


I'll one-up that! Hardest matches overall (assuming things go my way).

#5. Jill vs. Peach
#4. The Boss vs. Celes Chere
#3. Dante vs. Yoshi
#2. Kairi vs. Claire Redfield
#1. Zero vs. Kirby
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 10:49:52 PM | message detail
And am I the only one that thinks Vincent will beat Ganon?

There are a number of people who feel that Vincent beats Ganon, but I'm seeing Ganon pull that out in a close one.

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 10:50:03 PM | message detail
Er, switch around 4 and 5.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/26/2006 10:50:14 PM | message detail
Peach vs. Jill is a tough match. There's always a chance Peach will flop, and RE has become more popular around here (though I don't know if this would benefit Jill, as she apparently wasn't in RE4). I picked Peach though.

Ness would likely take out Jill with no problem. Peach with the 2k5 Nintendo boost shouldn't have any trouble.

However I think Aeris is a bit above Zelda pre-Twilight Princess, and we also haven't seen Aeris in a while. She could be slightly stronger than she was.

That depends on who you think is stronger: 2k3 Sonic or 2k5 Snake?
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marioinblack | Posted 8/26/2006 10:51:45 PM | message detail
The only problem I have with my Vincent pick is that if he doesn't jump out to a good start, Ganon won't give up a lead. I think Ganon would get a big push if it were a Frog/MC style close match.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 10:51:48 PM | message detail
#3. Dante vs. Yoshi

Yeah. This one is particularly painful.

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creativename | Posted 8/26/2006 10:55:47 PM | message detail
I think Zelda might have overperformed a slight bit on butt-ugly Snake, and I think Aeris was clearly somewhat stronger than Zelda in 2K3. And Aeris has had some reasons to have potentially gotten stronger since then.

I don't see why Yoshi would be favored over Dante. I guess the logic is that Dante isn't much ahead of Luigi last year and Yoshi beat Luigi with 54.5%. But I still think Dante should be the favorite in that match.

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Big Bob | Posted 8/26/2006 10:57:04 PM | message detail
Oddities happen in the contests. Both of Sonic's next-gen games are looking great, and Sonic Rush was absolutely awesome (as in, better than any Sonic game released since SA2). Crono's got no reason to really climb, and CT's #2 got ousted by Knuckles last contest (too bad Knuckles is gone...perhaps Amy can win a match in his stead).
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/26/2006 10:57:12 PM | message detail
5 hardest matches?

1. Crono/Sonic
2. Luigi/Zero
3. Luero/Kirby
4. Ganondorf/Vincent
5. Celes/The Boss
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 10:57:27 PM | message detail
Dante went up after DMC2.
KOS-MOS didn't go up after Xenosaga: Episode II, and I think there's other comparable examples. We can't ever say for sure if a character will boost from a game.

I agree that Aeris has more than a shot against Zelda, though I can't pick against Zelda here. Oh, and Peach won't totally flop. She was in SSBM...I think people'll think of her as more than a damsel in distress these days.

I haven't heard much on the comments of Kairi/Claire Redfield. If this was 2K2 Claire I think Claire has this match fairly easily, as she got 45% on Tidus. I don't think Claire has dropped too much (perhaps RE4 helped RE in general), so I have Claire on my bracket. Yes, I know Jill was measured at 22% on BL in SC2K4, but I just don't trust that, especially after seeing Leon's strength. Funny how only two people predicted Claire in the Oracle Challenge so far...

Sonic/Ganon/Vincent is just nightmarish...seriously, all THREE of these characters people are taking to win the whole tournament. I can't wait to see how this all goes.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/26/2006 10:58:38 PM | message detail
I think Zelda might have overperformed a slight bit on butt-ugly Snake, and I think Aeris was clearly somewhat stronger than Zelda in 2K3. And Aeris has had some reasons to have potentially gotten stronger since then.

Why do you think Zelda overperformed? She looked worse in that match than she did against Vivi.

Zelda has the LoZ boost from 2k3-2k5 to help her out, which outdoes anything Aeris has.

I don't see why Yoshi would be favored over Dante. I guess the logic is that Dante isn't much ahead of Luigi last year and Yoshi beat Luigi with 54.5%. But I still think Dante should be the favorite in that match.

DMC3 did sell most of its copies between the 2k5 contest and the 2k6 contest, but Yoshi could be very strong. Dante is the favorite, yes, but a Yoshi win would not surprise me at all.
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creativename | Posted 8/26/2006 11:01:27 PM | message detail
Kairi/Claire is a real odd one. Claire should be vastly weaker than her last appearance, despite RE's resurgence. But I can't see Kairi having any real strength. However, for some reason I just can't picture Claire winning that match.

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