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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 348

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 2:57:48 PM | message detail
Cloud wouldn't have broken 55% on Mario even if SMS hadn't been released that day. It's not happening.
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NewLib | Posted 8/26/2006 2:59:21 PM | message detail
I know it wont, but if TP is released before that match Zelda is going to be really overrated in the stats. Im talking top 10 overrated.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 2:59:55 PM | message detail
So, with the Battle Royale...anybody think Sephiroth has a chance at ousting Cloud? Just remember that this will act like a PotD...strange things could happen. Also, Sephiroth is a villain and Cloud and Link are the heroes, meaning Cloud and Link could split hero votes... And, I don't think Cloud/Sephiroth SFF means Sephiroth must lose because we all know Kefka would do relatively better than Crono in this sort of thing, even though Crono SFFed Kefka.

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MastaHealer | Posted 8/26/2006 3:00:09 PM | message detail
The stats are already going to be messed up due to fodderific female characters. 2K7 is going to be crazy!
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/26/2006 3:02:51 PM | message detail
The stats are already going to be messed up due to fodderific female characters.

How exactly are they going to mess up the stats? Only an overperformance on Samus by Tifa, Aeris, or Zelda could do that!
RPGuy96 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:03:18 PM | message detail
Hm. This Wii launch ismessing with my head...I think I'm going to change from Mega Man > Samus as my final to Samus winning, becuase of Corruption...I wonder what would happen if CT or the classic Mega Man games were available on the Virtual Console at launch?

And, looking at my bracket, I might just win the Lopen award for most upsets.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 8/26/2006 3:03:48 PM | message detail
The stats won't be messed up, we'll just have more contestants under 10% on BL then ever before.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 3:03:58 PM | message detail
Someone needs to get a snubs list up. No Kunx, Magus, Kefka...Shadow...

Anyway...

(1)Samus Aran
(8)Nidoran F

(4)Ada Wong
(5)Jade

(3)Rikku
(6)Lenneth

(2)Kairi
(7)Claire

Comments: Other than Kairi/Claire, nothing too debatable about this division.

(1)Tifa Lockhart
(8)Ivy Valentine

(4)The Boss
(5)Celes Chere

(3)Jill Valentine
(6)Sheena Fujibayashi

(2)Princess Peach
(7)Princess Daisy

Comments: Boss/Celes, Jill/Sheena (;_;). Peach/Jill should be interesting.

(1)Zelda
(8)Carmen Sandiego

(4)Terra Branford
(5)Sarah Kerrigan

(3)KOS-MOS
(6)Amy Rose

(2)Aeris
(7)Marle

Comments: Zelda/Aeris! Awesome. Rest of this division is pretty easy.

(1)Yuna
(8)Roll

(4)Joanna Dark
(5)Cortana

(3)Chun-Li
(6)Kasumi

(2)Lara Croft
(7)Alyx Vance

Comments: Yuna/Chun-Li is nice...I guess.

Overall, not too hard. Samus, Tifa, Zelda/Aeris, and Yuna/Chunners. I'm guessing Samus > Zelda in the finals.



(1)Solid Snake
(8)Soma Cruz

(4)Squall
(5)Tidus

(3)Riku
(6)Yoshi

(2)Dante
(7)Ryu Hayabusa

Comments: Squall/Tidus, lol Leon. Squall wasted in Round 2 too. Yoshi/Dante is tough though.

(1)Sora
(8)Tingle

(4)Pheonix Wright
(5)Gordon Freeman

(3)Kratos
(6)Ryu

(2)Megaman
(7)Axel

Comments: GF wins a match, but I bet Wright will keep it respectable. Mega Man walks over this division, though Kratos/Ryu may be more interesting that we might think.

(1)Sonic
(8)CATS

(4)Ganondorf
(5)Vincent Valentine

(3)Kirby
(6)Prince of Persia

(2)Luigi
(7)Zero

Comments: Ganon/Vincent in Round 1? Hot damn. The winner then gets Sonic? Ha Ha oh wow. Kirby/Luigi/Zero too is brutal. Best division in the bracket. (I called pre-Contest too that Sonic's division would be tough and stacked!)

(1)Crono
(8)Captain Falcon

(4)Bowser
(5)Leon Kennedy

(3)Auron
(6)Alucard

(2)Master Chief
(7)Sub Zero

Comments: Bowser is wasted, Auron/Alucard may be interesting, and the winner/Chief should be fun to watch.

Overall, much better than the female side. Snake, Mega, Sonic, Crono, and I'm guessing Crono > MM in the finals.



Battle Royale: Interesting...Samus is probably going to be last, then Crono, then Mario or Seph takes 4th. Link beats Cloud in the end. Whee.
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:04:03 PM | message detail
Imagine the votals we'll get in the Battle Royale. The four biggest draws on the site in one poll, along with two characters fresh off of winning their brackets. Could we break 175K? I think so.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/26/2006 3:04:19 PM | message detail
Lopen award goes to me. I have Mega Man winning the whole thing, and I'M NOT CHANGING IT.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:04:31 PM | message detail
The banner has Phoenix Wright.

WIN
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 3:05:32 PM | message detail
The stats won't be messed up, we'll just have more contestants under 10% on BL then ever before.

You telling me that Ganondorf edging out Vincent in a close one and then getting TP right before his Sonic match wouldn't mess up the stats?

Or Snake/Yoshi happening right around the time of the Wii release?

Luigi/Zero as opposed to Kirby v. Luigi/Zero?

There's a lot of room to mess up things this time around.
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Lopen | Posted 8/26/2006 3:06:32 PM | message detail
Pfft. I have Mega Man winning and then some. I'll be taking my award back this contest, gentlemen!
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 8/26/2006 3:07:07 PM | message detail
No Frog? No Magus? No Knuckles? Gordon Freeman given a free pass into the second round? Gosh... this contest sucks already.

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GavHarrison316 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:07:23 PM | message detail
The banner has Phoenix Wright.

WIN


The banner does NOT have Solid Snake, which makes me cry inside, or in medical terms, makes my organs puncture themselves in disgust.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 3:07:34 PM | message detail
The stats won't be messed up, we'll just have more contestants under 10% on BL then ever before.

One example -- Vincent will be horrifically overrated if Ganon beats Sonic because of TP.

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:07:36 PM | message detail
Random prediction: once we hit the female side of the bracket, every other day we'll all be shocked at the results. "OMG how can this be so close?! How can she be winning by so muuuuuch?!"

Also, I think the x-stats will be rather messed up in the female division. Remember Samus/Lara Croft? I doubt Lara was (or is) that weak. We might see a lot of "SFF" between female characters.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 3:08:01 PM | message detail
Man, some of these newbs on the board are unreal. I've seen people believing that Samus has won a contest before, that FF6 characters are nigh-unstoppable...
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:08:37 PM | message detail
And... the bracket is up, and I'm now eligible for prizes.

Kingdom Hearts 2 has sure brought in a lot of support bringing in 4 characters and Resident Evil also brought in 3.

As for characters that have been in every contest the number has dropped to 17 from 20, Donkey Kong, Knuckles and Pac-Man didn't make it.

15/32 Females have appeared in a contest before (Samus, Rikku, Claire, Tifa, Jill, Zelda, Terra, Kerrigan, KOS-MOS, Aeris, Yuna, Joanna Dark, Chun Li, Kasumi and Lara Croft) though Morrigan didn't make it.

We have a potenial Snake/Squall rematch in round 2, Freeman finally gets a win and we got Ganondorf/Vincent, but it is in the wrong division.

As for tough matches we have Kairi/Claire, The Boss/Celse, Squall/Tidus, Ganondorf/Vincent, Luigi/Zero, Peach/Jill, Dante/Yoshi, Luigi/Zero/Kirby, Master Chief/Auron and Zelda/Aeris.

Finally I like the Battle Royal idea.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:08:37 PM | message detail
Hey, I'm talking about the contest in its entirety. Find me someone else who has Alucard, Luigi, and Ganondorf taking their four packs!
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Redtooth | Posted 8/26/2006 3:08:43 PM | message detail
Since Slowflake isn't here, anybody have plans to take over the BOP?

I don't think anyone answered, but this thing really should keep going. I've been following it for a while and I always loved the idea. The problem is, I think I lack the ability to run such a big thing and the popularity to keep it big. That said, I wouldn't mind helping to keep the BOP alive though, in any way I can =D.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 3:09:07 PM | message detail
Find me someone else who has Alucard, Luigi, and Ganondorf taking their four packs!

Two out of three right here!

You win, sir!

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Tediz247 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:09:40 PM | message detail
Resident Evil also brought in 3.

4, actually. Ada, Claire, Jill, and Leon.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 8/26/2006 3:11:01 PM | message detail
You telling me that Ganondorf edging out Vincent in a close one and then getting TP right before his Sonic match wouldn't mess up the stats?

Or Snake/Yoshi happening right around the time of the Wii release?

Luigi/Zero as opposed to Kirby v. Luigi/Zero?

There's a lot of room to mess up things this time around.


If the wii gets released during the contest, I'd expect it to be near the end, and I don't think that hype really affects a characters strength in the contest.
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:12:42 PM | message detail
The more I think, the more trouble I have with Riku/Yoshi. Even if Riku didn't appear until the end of KH2, he did have a very major role that definitely increased his likeability. Riku/Yoshi/Dante could be the toughest fourpack in the contest.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/26/2006 3:14:10 PM | message detail
Why does everyone think Sonic>MegaMan now. It's not like Sonic's had a great game since then (Sonic Rush was decent). I mean, MMZX could concievably cancel out Sonic Rush+Crap (lol Sonic Riders and Shadow the Hedgehog).
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:14:20 PM | message detail
4, actually. Ada, Claire, Jill, and Leon

Opps forgot Leon.
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MastaHealer | Posted 8/26/2006 3:14:23 PM | message detail
Other then Luigi/Kirby/Zero...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 3:14:53 PM | message detail
Sonic could beat Mega Man purely on random variation. He doesn't *need* anything...
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 3:15:26 PM | message detail
I find Kirby/Luigi/Zero tougher than Riku/Yoshi/Dante. I don't think Riku will go from Frog level (30% on Samus) to Yoshi's level.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/26/2006 3:15:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, but why does everyone think the random variation goes in Sonic's favor?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:17:33 PM | message detail
Since someone asked before.

Snub List

Ness
Carl Johnson
Lloyd
Wesker
Yuri
Frog
Big Boss
Manny Calavera
Vivi
Agent 47
Cecil
King of All Cosmos
Donkey Kong
Sam Fisher
Kefka
Tommy Vercetti
Zidane
Magus
Knuckles
Geno
Jin Kazama
Kratos Aurion
Diablo
Vyse
Conker
Laharl
Revolver Ocelot
Pac-Man

Total: 28
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TheRye | Posted 8/26/2006 3:17:34 PM | message detail
God, every round of this bracket gives me headaches.
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:17:50 PM | message detail
I don't know, I could see Riku potentially getting a Squall/Sephiroth-like boost. I'll probably stick with Yoshi, though.
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WilhuffTarkin | Posted 8/26/2006 3:18:23 PM | message detail
Okay, here were the matches I was unsure of.

Kairi v. Claire Redfield
The Boss v. Celes Chere
Luigi v. Zero
Master Chief v. Sub-Zero

I went with my gut reaction on all of them, which means they're likely wrong.

Kairi, Celes, Luigi, and Sub-Zero.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 8/26/2006 3:18:55 PM | message detail
Why is everyone upset about Vincent/Ganon going up against Sonic rather than Snake? Snake wasn't behind Sonic by much at all last year, and I would see that match as a toss-up this year.

If you can see one of them taking out Snake then I don't see the problem with them taking out Sonic.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/26/2006 3:20:32 PM | message detail
Sigh, I really wish Cammy, Sakura, or Morrigan would've taken a spot from Lenneth, Alyx, or even Cortana. At least Street Fighter has managed to churn out good midcarders to its credit.
Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 3:20:52 PM | message detail
Thanks Char

DK, Frog, Kefka, Magus, but the snub of the Contest is Knuckles by far. (Though Shadow deserves it more)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 3:20:58 PM | message detail
Sonic's projected to beat Snake 52-48 by the stats...it's not utter dominance, but it's not in question. If he's overrated like I suspect he might be that could change, though...
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/26/2006 3:22:15 PM | message detail
I'm not that shocked about Frog missing the cut. Even under a normal bracket I felt his 15 minutes of fame was up when he & Liquid were exposed last year.
Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:22:43 PM | message detail
Wait a minute...KEFKA didn't make it?! O___O

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 3:23:05 PM | message detail
Man, I didn't even realize all the characters who didn't make the bracket until that list ...

Still a very nice bracket regardless.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2006 3:24:22 PM | message detail
...I can't believe Kefka went from a 3 to nothing. Maybe Ceej intentionally snubbed him in the interests of competition?

...nah.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:28:54 PM | message detail
My upset special? Cloud getting 4th in the Battle Royale. =p

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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/26/2006 3:28:59 PM | message detail
And, looking at my bracket, I might just win the Lopen award for most upsets.

Pfft. Are you bad enough to pick Alyx Vance over Lara Croft?
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:32:53 PM | message detail
From the sound of it I think I only took 4 or 5 upsets.
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/26/2006 3:33:45 PM | message detail
...I can't believe Kefka went from a 3 to nothing. Maybe Ceej intentionally snubbed him in the interests of competition?

I would appreciate it if he did!!

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Who Cares? | Posted 8/26/2006 3:35:24 PM | message detail
A little fun fact: Only nine series have been represented in all eight GameFAQs contests.

Final Fantasy
Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Brothers
Sonic the Hedgehog
Metal Gear
Metroid
Smash Brothers
Street Fighter
Resident Evil

(You could argue Kingdom Hearts because of the cameos, but since it wasn't released till after 2k2...)
Haste_2 | Posted 8/26/2006 3:36:24 PM | message detail
Well, if you count Smash Bros., then why not Kingdom Hearts? :p

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/26/2006 3:41:26 PM | message detail
Upsets? Hmm, I may be cookie again. Let's see.

Claire > Kairi, is that considered one? Or is that just a toss-up.
How about Boss > Celes
Kirby > Luigi/Zero

That may be it...
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