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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 347
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| Super Luigi | Posted 8/25/2006 10:17:38 PM | message detail |
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MarioSuperstar Posted 8/25/2006 11:13:52 PM message detail And who the hell would pick Ganon over Snake? It's not like it's a foolish pick or anything. Yes it is. That's like me saying Bowser could take down Sonic. Snake would have more of a chance at beating Sonic than Ganondorf even coming close to Snake. --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2006 10:20:05 PM | message detail |
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Snake would have more of a chance at beating Sonic than Ganondorf even coming close to Snake. Really? So you think Ganondorf is that much weaker than Bowser? --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| Super Luigi | Posted 8/25/2006 10:20:52 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Bowser is a few % stronger than Ganon. I'd go with 52-47 match for Bowser between the two. --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| creativename | Posted 8/25/2006 10:20:54 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Bowser over Ganon right now. It's been some time since the
Villains contest, and they weren't very far apart then anyway. And
since then Bowser has had New SMB, which while perhaps not that big a
deal, it's more than what Ganon's had. Of course my picking Bowser could just be because Bowser is awesomely awesome. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2006 10:23:22 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Bowser is a few % stronger than Ganon. I'd go with 52-47 match for Bowser between the two. Indirectly, I think they're equals. Ganondorf can come close to Snake if Bowser's already done it. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:23:39 PM | message detail |
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Of course my picking Bowser could just be because Bowser is awesomely awesome. Now that's what I'm talking about! I've got such a bad feeling about Bowser/Ganon, and yet I'll refuse to let myself pick Ganon unless that match is after TP. w00t bias picks --- Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 8/25/2006 10:25:38 PM | message detail |
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I think you'd pretty much have to assume that Zero would've taken out Solid **** back in 2K4. Not point much in discussing it and we'd never know for sure, but I don't know if that's all that questionable. But without Solid ****, Snake beating Zero that year seems reasonable, despite their respective performances on Mega Man. It wasn't a good year for Snake though so it's hard to say. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/25/2006 10:25:46 PM | message detail |
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From Super Luigi Posted 8/26/2006 1:20:52 AM #403 I'd say Bowser is a few % stronger than Ganon. I'd go with 52-47 match for Bowser between the two. Bowser is so awesome that he doesn't even let the match add up to 100%? ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:27:59 PM | message detail |
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That last 1% goes to Peach. =P --- Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 8/25/2006 10:28:12 PM | message detail |
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Even without bias though, I just think that Bowser is slightly stronger than Ganon pre-Twilight Princess (in indirect terms). --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/25/2006 10:29:05 PM | message detail |
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That kind of assumes there won't be any Zelda > Mario SFF, though. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:29:38 PM | message detail |
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Since we are all still waiting for the bracket here's another female bracket. Division 1 1) Samus 8) Nidoran F 4) Celes 5) Kairi 3) KOS-MOS 6) Claire Redfield 2) Jill Valentine 7) Amy Rose Division 2 1) Yuna 8) Ivy 4) Rikku 5) Morrigan 3) Peach 6) Dizzy 2) Chun Li 7) Lenneth Valkyrie Division 3 1) Tifa 8) Roll 4) Marle 5) Lara Croft 3) Sniper Wolf 6) Garnet 2) Aeris 7) Lyndis Division 4 1) Zelda 8) Carmen Sandiego 4) Yuffie 5) Xianghua 3) Rinoa 6) Kasumi 2) The Boss 7) Rydia --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/25/2006 10:30:01 PM | message detail |
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But without Solid ****, Snake beating Zero that year seems
reasonable, despite their respective performances on Mega Man. It
wasn't a good year for Snake though so it's hard to say. I blame Snake doing so bad on Mega Man on him appearing to get his face blasted in... <_<; And as I said before, I used that to hype up Zero > Snake, but I never would have actually taken that upset. Although 2k4 was definitely Snake's worst year, I definitely never thought he was actually that low. I was just enjoying kicking him while he was down, since I had to deal with Sonic being the "weak point" of the Noble Nine after 2k3... MAGUS > SONIC! THE X-STATS SAY SO! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:30:32 PM | message detail |
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Hurray for bias. Bowser has some of the best dialogue of any character. I still think that if the contest took place after SMG's release, Bowser could equal Ganon. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 10:30:56 PM | message detail |
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Would someone tell me why so many think The Boss is going to get a 2 seed? --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:31:07 PM | message detail |
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Would you take Zelda > Bowser based on Zelda > Mario (r)SFF? If she can't, I really don't think the other leech can. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:32:09 PM | message detail |
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Would someone tell me why so many think The Boss is going to get a 2 seed? MGS characters tend to get overseeded (loyal, rabid fanbase will do that), and The Boss is an especially beloved character among fans. --- Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/25/2006 10:32:21 PM | message detail |
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I'd highly consider it, actually. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:32:48 PM | message detail |
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Until Zelda is playable the a Zelda game (lol irony), she does not beat Bowser or Ganon. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:33:34 PM | message detail |
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Boss could definitely be a two seed. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/25/2006 10:34:23 PM | message detail |
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That kind of assumes there won't be any Zelda > Mario SFF, though. While the Zelda series SFF's Mario, it doesn't mean that it automatically holds true for every single matchup between the series. Bowser is much more established than Ganon and has had much more of a presence over the year. I don't think it would be farfetched to think that a good chunk of voters who like both series to have a preference for Bowser, even though they like the Zelda series more. I definitely don't see Ganon being the beneficiary of SFF against friggin' Bowser. If anything, there will be none or Bowser takes it. It takes more than just being from a more popular game/series to take SFF... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/25/2006 10:34:51 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot getting a 2 seed in 2k5 after his flop in the VC comes to mind, heh. --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:35:37 PM | message detail |
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It takes more than just being from a more popular game/series to take SFF... As Samus/Ganon showed us. One might argue that Samus didn't take the SFF, but you sure as hell aren't going to tell me Ganon took it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:36:07 PM | message detail |
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Bowser has NSMB and SMG hype backing him up. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:36:52 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot was a 3 and 2 seed in the villains and character contest. MGS fans really come in numbers to nominate their characters. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:37:56 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot pretty much did what he was expected to do in the VC...some
people floated Ocelot > Bowser around, but that was due to the
sentiment that Ocelot would be stronger than Liquid and Liquid's
fraudulent ranking in 2k4. If Ocelot were to come back with a high seed after Ocelot/Pac-Man, that would be something. --- Commit it to memory. |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:38:52 PM | message detail |
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Bowser has NSMB and SMG hype backing him up. I can't possibly see how a character like Bowser could benefit from Mario hype. Ganon's strength possibly might increase with TP, but Bowser with SMG? Nah. --- 79/80 - Best. Series. Ever. o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| Super Luigi | Posted 8/25/2006 10:39:02 PM | message detail |
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UltimaterializerX Posted 8/25/2006 11:25:46 PM message detail From Super Luigi Posted 8/26/2006 1:20:52 AM #403 I'd say Bowser is a few % stronger than Ganon. I'd go with 52-47 match for Bowser between the two. Bowser is so awesome that he doesn't even let the match add up to 100%? I could have swore some matches have ended with the result of... 52.01 - 47.99 or with something similiar to that. --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/25/2006 10:39:13 PM | message detail |
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As Samus/Ganon showed us. One might argue that Samus didn't take the
SFF, but you sure as hell aren't going to tell me Ganon took it. And Vincent/Squall to a lesser extent... I know I wasn't the only one who thought Vincent would SFF Squall a bit and win comfortably. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/25/2006 10:40:20 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of hype, the idea of it making a noticable difference will be
put to the test this year with Snake; I'm interested in seeing him
after the SSBB trailer. Link 2k4 and SSB in 2k6 suggest that hype might
make a difference; Snake's the one who's gonna prove it or disprove it
this year. --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/25/2006 10:41:14 PM | message detail |
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I could have swore some matches have ended with the result of... 52.01 - 47.99 or with something similiar to that. I know you didn't just try to justify putting 52-47... 52.01-47.99 does not equal 52-47. That was a pathetic attempt to cover your ass! =P You were better off just letting it go! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:41:46 PM | message detail |
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Why if he is the villian especially, I forgot that he is playable in
Super Paper Mario, which is suppose to be the last great Cube other
than TP before the launch of the Wii. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Super Luigi | Posted 8/25/2006 10:42:27 PM | message detail |
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When I said 52-47 I meant in that range. Just nothing outside of 52-47. Geeze. --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:42:49 PM | message detail |
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If we are to assume Snake boosts as much from the SSBB trailer as Link
did from 2k3 to 2k4 (the implication being that the TP trailer was the
boost giver), he beats Mega Man. I guess we'll see, LOL! --- Commit it to memory. |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 10:45:51 PM | message detail |
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The SSBB trailer shouldn't have much effect on Snake's strength. It's
just a trailer, and its not like all SSB players know Snake's coming.
Or are interested in Snake's arrival. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/25/2006 10:46:54 PM | message detail |
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Well, SOMETHING caused SSB to go insane last month.... --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:48:46 PM | message detail |
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It was Meta Knight obviously. Meta Knight = pnwed 2k6 bracket. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:49:14 PM | message detail |
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The trailer was out before the Sonic match though, and based on that
Sonic's poised to not only be the number five series, but the #5 with absolute ease.
Something's screwy there, although after thinking about it I'm inclined
to place the blame on Super Mario Bros/Final Fantasy rather than
SMB/SSB. --- Commit it to memory. |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 10:55:40 PM | message detail |
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So SMB's hour long run at FF for dominance is what is to blame here? --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:58:47 PM | message detail |
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Blame for what? --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:59:14 PM | message detail |
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I'd say the whole match was flukish...if only because looking at the end results, Mario is worth a whopping 46% on Zelda. Zelda,
which has in virtually every other setting whalloped Mario into the
ground, whose main character is worth more than 60-40 on Mario *before*
SFF, letting Mario get so close is...odd, to say the very least. Maybe
it was ultra -badass Mario v. nose-picking Ashe or maybe it was just a
random fluke...but as much as Mario deserves it, I just don't think
that's what he's worth. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 11:00:29 PM | message detail |
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Well, I should say I *doubt* that's what he's worth. For all we know it's completely legit. But something screwed up down the line, as I'd never take Sonic to be so high compared to everything else. --- Commit it to memory. |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 11:12:04 PM | message detail |
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Well I'd hardly consider Series X-Stats reliable, considering the
number of SFF situations. But more importantly, series are a completely
different animal. People may like Link more than Mario as a character,
but if they loved many games in the Mario series more than Zelda games,
they can vote Mario, thus increasing the strength of the Mario series.
It's not too hard to believe, is it? --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 11:13:29 PM | message detail |
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Man...I really hope people aren't voting Link over Mario on the basis of him being a better character... =( --- Commit it to memory. |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 11:14:52 PM | message detail |
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But every Zelda has tons of fans too. Link gets his strength from how solid all of his games are. Same for Zelda as a whole. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 11:15:33 PM | message detail |
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I'm sure people are. Link has the cool image, especially with a sword.
Mario doesn't. He's considered a lot more kiddy than Link is.
Undoubtedly, some are voting Link over Mario for being a better
character. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 11:17:21 PM | message detail |
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Mario with a sword would totally own Sephiroth! ...am I joking or not? =( --- Commit it to memory. |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 11:18:17 PM | message detail |
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Its not like the Zelda stories are horrible. They just arent FF, which it is compared to all the time on this site. --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/25/2006 11:18:30 PM | message detail |
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My math suggests Ganondorf is approx. 35% on BL(measuring from
Kefka/Diablo and Auron from 2K4 after adjusting Sephiroth up). So, that
leaves quite a bit of room for Bowser to be stronger than Ganondorf. I
think Bowser's stronger, though I'm far from certain. If anything, there will be none or Bowser [takes the SFF against Ganondorf]. I've theorized that Link isn't as strong as Mario SFF-wise...see Samus/Link as opposed to Samus/Mario. Well, okay, that seems obvious. The theory is that Link gets extra non-Nintendo votes that Mario gets (like somebody mentioned earlier with Samus), and Mario is still more popular among Nintendo fans. So, if that's the case, Ganondorf would likely get SFFed by Bowser. Yeah, and I agree that SMB/FF was a fluke. I think FF had a (relatively) large change in popularity going from pictures that'll remind people of FFX-2 to pictures that'll make people instantly think of FF7 strongly... Another possibility might be SSB/SMB rSFF. I don't know. It doesn't seem right, but, hey, who knows? One thing I can guarantee...SMB would get more than 68% against Sonic if they faced each other. :p --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 11:19:15 PM | message detail |
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Mario with a sword would totally own Sephiroth! Oh yeah, definetly. That'd look GREAT in ASCII form! --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |