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| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/24/2006 6:43:09 PM | message detail |
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Zero Mission is the king of the Metroid games. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/25/2006 2:00:08 AM | message detail |
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You know, just how big of a secret must it be for Nintendo to not show anything
Ganon related since Twilight Princess's announcement? We're about three
months -- at the absolute most -- away from the release and we've seen
nothing. That role must be insane for them to not have shown anything, only confirming that he is the villain of the game. "No discussion of Twilight Princess' enemies can end without mentioning Ganon," Yoshiyuki said. "I know that everyone's wondering what's going on with Link's old nemesis. All I can say now is, we're preparing more than you could possibly ever, ever expect." Predict the boost. (We've been over this before, but we're talking about Metroid games and need to revisit this topic to get back to the great stuff -- lol bowser > ganon) --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/25/2006 2:07:10 AM | message detail |
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Woah, is that a post with "Heroic Mario"?! --- Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/25/2006 2:10:06 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Ganon may genuinely be poised to take a spot in the elite, but that's ONLY if he's as close as we think he is right now. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/25/2006 3:52:40 AM | message detail |
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Personally I don't see Ganondorf bbreaking 45% on Sonic, Megaman or
even Solid Snake. But I've always hated Ganondork (Give me the evil
blue PIG Ganon instead)so maybe it's just my antifanboyism. --- Arc the Lad > Shining Force. Andel DID notice >_> Z1m Zum > Me |
| jonthomson | Posted 8/25/2006 4:36:02 AM | message detail |
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I could possibly see Ganon taking down Sonic post-TP. But it'd be an upset pick for certain. I was hoping we'd get a bracket soon to be able to start on the 1st... either it's later than that, or we're going to have a very quick prediction turnaround... --- Jon Thomson - Z1mZum pwned me good and proper. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/25/2006 4:46:29 AM | message detail |
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At this point, I would bet a large sum of money that we're going to start on October 1st or September 15th. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." Z1mZum: Beating my ass mercilessly since 2006. |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/25/2006 5:00:16 AM | message detail |
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I hope in a fun twist Vaati and Agrahnim team up to be the villains of Twilight Princess and Ganondorf isn't even in it. --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female) |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/25/2006 8:32:05 AM | message detail |
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Personally I'm hoping the twist is that Ganon discovers that Tingle is
actually his brother, and he quits being a villain and dresses up as a
fairy instead. And then Vaati and Agahnim are the main villains of the
game. --- CATS for SC2k6 champion |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 8:35:51 AM | message detail |
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I believe Ganon's in it but I do not think he is the main villian. It
is someone totally new this time. I believe this was announced.
>_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/25/2006 8:50:05 AM | message detail |
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I hope in a fun twist Vaati and Agrahnim team up to be the villains of Twilight Princess and Ganondorf isn't even in it. Agahnim was essentially Ganon anyway!! I believe Ganon's in it but I do not think he is the main villian. It is someone totally new this time. I believe this was announced. Err, no, it was never announced that there would be a new villain. The fact that Ganon was confirmed for the game seems to imply to me that he'll be continuing his role as the villain in the series, as it should be. << --- "Winning isn't about being lucky, it's about being bold." -- Captain Falcon |
| KingBartz | Posted 8/25/2006 10:50:02 AM | message detail |
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^^^ CONCUR'D Ganon is always the villain, and he always will be. To do otherwise would be like not making Eggman the Sonic Villain. These set roles are what make the games fun. Shadow the Hedgehog shows what happens when you try to change the formula. --- This life lesson was brought to you by the one and only KingBartz. |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/25/2006 11:05:13 AM | message detail |
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Showing no Ganon before the release of Twilight Princess is no big
surprise, considering Nintendo didn't even mention him before Wind
Waker was released. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/25/2006 12:03:42 PM | message detail |
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Any of you guys think Mega Man ZX will give MM a significant boost? --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2006 1:26:57 PM | message detail |
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Personally I don't see Ganondorf bbreaking 45% on Sonic, Megaman or even Solid Snake. Ganondorf should easily break 45% on him post-TP. I don't see why he wouldn't. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 8/25/2006 1:28:37 PM | message detail |
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Ganondorf is stronger than Bowser if you look at their performances on
Sephiroth, and Bowser damn well near beat Solid Snake. Looking at that,
Ganondorf has a legitimate chance of beating Snake right now without TP. --- Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/25/2006 1:34:49 PM | message detail |
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Ganon would get 45.19% on Sonic based off of Diablo already, not to
mention Ganon getting 51.65% on Bowser based off of
Sephiroth...thinking he can't get 45% on Solid Snake -- whether it's
before or after LoZ:TP -- is ludicrous. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/25/2006 2:09:39 PM | message detail |
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Fact or Fiction: Mario would beat Sephiroth if he looked like Goku in overalls with a red cap. <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- Who will be the one to marry Wylvane Vyndale? Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 2:20:27 PM | message detail |
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Fiction. DBZ's not popular enough to do that. And in a real fight, it
would take Mario five episodes to attack, thus Sephiroth can Masamune
him right from the start. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/25/2006 9:12:28 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, I think Bowser > Ganondorf now. --- ...Z1mZum owned my B1mBum in the Guru Contest... |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 9:13:50 PM | message detail |
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If Ganondorf does have an amazingly awesome role in Twilight Princess,
does Ganondorf beat Bowser? I'd have to say the two are close to equals
right now, so I'd say yes. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/25/2006 9:14:37 PM | message detail |
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If Ganondorf is favored stastistics wise I believe Bowser could rSFF Ganondorf. --- ...Z1mZum owned my B1mBum in the Guru Contest... |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 9:15:55 PM | message detail |
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But I don't see the basis for it. Sure Bowser isn't as much of a
fanbase leech as Ganondorf, but we do know that the Zelda series is
bigger than the Mario fanbase. It's hard for me to see a Mario
character rSFF a Zelda character. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/25/2006 9:16:10 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's Friday night and we still have no bracket, and we probably
won't have it Saturday or Sunday, either. Considering we haven't had
much less than a month to predict the bracket before the contest's
start, the contest will almost surely start October 1st, as I predicted
a couple weeks ago. :[ --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/25/2006 9:16:46 PM | message detail |
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Once TP is released I'm taking Ganon over Bowser no questions asked. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:16:58 PM | message detail |
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Ganon would probably get a significant boost from Twilight Princess even if it didn't feature him at all.
I take Bowser > Ganondorf now, and so obviously have Snake >
Ganondorf, but if that match takes place after TP I'm very likely to
change it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:20:39 PM | message detail |
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Considering how the bracket looks and how noms went, though, I could
easily see Snake/Ganon in the second round if they were to meet, which should
be before TP. Third round is iffy...but what Snake doesn't want is for
Ganon to be in Sora's division (assuming the winner of the two meets up
in the Elite Eight). That's about as advantageous for Ganon as you can
get without having TP release on the day of the match. --- Commit it to memory. |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/25/2006 9:38:22 PM | message detail |
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Well if Bowser can almost beat Snake, Ganon sure could even without TP. That would be a great match. --- The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/25/2006 9:39:14 PM | message detail |
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I'd be tempted to take Ganon over Snake, and I was one of the people that didn't think Bowser had a good shot at it last year. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/25/2006 9:39:21 PM | message detail |
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All this Ganon boosting talk pleases me. Continue! --- Moltar Status: Currently the property of the true Master, Z1mZum Final July '06 Contest Score: 62 (Boo) |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2006 9:40:47 PM | message detail |
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It could possibly depend on how much that sprite screwed Snake. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:40:50 PM | message detail |
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Because Ganon couldn't possibly be weaker than Bowser! No,
not in million years, despite the fact that even taking their matches
against Sephiroth as legit leaves open the possibility for Bowser to be
stronger due to how close they were in the first place! --- Commit it to memory. |
| wavedash101 | Posted 8/25/2006 9:44:29 PM | message detail |
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Id take Bowser over Ganon IF it took place after SMG released. And if we dont get the damn bracket soon it might. >_> --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Board 8's Unofficial Master of the Phoenix Down |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:44:57 PM | message detail |
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Meh, Bowser could be every inch of what the stats say and Ganon could
still conceivably lose to Snake. Even if you don't buy Bowser being
able to rSFF Ganon, that doesn't mean the Koopa King can't be
indirectly stronger in the first place. Although if I were to take a wild shot on any overrating connected to Snake...didn't the Mario/Snake match happen right as the MGS4 trailer hit the scene and it was all over GameFAQ's front page (thanks to Gamespot)? Heck, that could have overrated Snake just as easily. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/25/2006 9:45:43 PM | message detail |
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I never said Bowser couldn't be stronger than Ganon, in a direct
match-up, I'd be confused as hell as to who I'd take. I'd probably side
with Ganon, simply because I feel like his x-stat position has sucked
nuts every year, and because of other reasons, think he's stronger than
where he is in the x-stats. In 2K3, we have the Magus ordeal, but I
sincerely doubt anyone takes Magus to actually beat Ganon today, thusly
even if he is
overrated by Magus in 2K3, it's not to all that bad of an extent. Now
in 2K4 and 2K5 you see all the Ninty characters boosting, but in 2K4
Ganon can't show his increase in strength thanks to getting SFFed into
the ground, and given his 2K3 numbers, and then in 2K5, we have
Mario/Samus, and I think it's been pretty well documented what my
feelings on that match are. I have absolutely no problem putting Samus
over Mario, and would probably put her on the level of 2K4 Seph. Which
is more than enough to make Ganon > Snake a very real possibility. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:49:27 PM | message detail |
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even if he is overrated by Magus in 2K3, it's not to all that bad of an extent. Tidus, who lost to Ganon in 2k3 (not Magus), is projected to lose to Ganondorf 60-40 in 2k4 when he went 50/50 the year before. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:50:09 PM | message detail |
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Not that Ganon can't be a legitimate near-elite now...but Ganondorf 2k3 is a friggin' chump. --- Commit it to memory. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/25/2006 9:51:54 PM | message detail |
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From FlamboyantSpy Posted 8/26/2006 12:16:46 AM #375 Once TP is released I'm taking Ganon over Bowser no questions asked. I'd take that now. I think it's silly to do otherwise, given that they shared an opponent two days apart from one another in the villains contest. and if either Ganon or Bowser have gone up since then, Ganon has. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Now Playing: SOTC, KH:COM (Sora), FE8, SFAA, Castlevania: LoI |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/25/2006 9:53:06 PM | message detail |
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Well, I would take Ganon over Snake right now, but if the match didn't
happen in the sprite round, I'd expect Snake to win. I think Bowser
would have performed substantially worse if his match against Snake had
been a round earlier or later. http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=173345 Personally, I see Ganon being somewhat stronger than Zelda, and Bowser somewhere between the two. After TP though, Ganon beats Snake even without the sprite round, and Zelda could come close. Not that Ganon can't be a legitimate near-elite now...but Ganondorf 2k3 is a friggin' chump. I'm curious: how would you rank the Tiduses in terms of strength? I would expect 2k3 to be one of his better years. I also think it likely that 2k3 Magus is stronger than Magus 2k5. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/25/2006 9:53:37 PM | message detail |
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Tidus, who lost to Ganon in 2k3 (not Magus), is projected to lose to Ganondorf 60-40 in 2k4 when he went 50/50 the year before. Fair enough, but I think any Nintendo boosting negates how overrated he was thanks to Magus in 2K3, I know I'm definitely in the minority on this one, and if there was one character that had a chance to pull a Magus this year, it would sure as hell be Ganondorf. Still, I think his strength is legitimate as far as x-stats go, if not underrated. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/25/2006 9:54:19 PM | message detail |
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It's a Nintendo SFF match. There's not much point to comparing common
opponents. I'm still not sure if Mario would have broken 70% on Frog
last year, and we all saw what happened to the gal who did. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/25/2006 9:54:32 PM | message detail |
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I'd take that now. I think it's silly to do otherwise, given that
they shared an opponent two days apart from one another in the villains
contest. and if either Ganon or Bowser have gone up since then, Ganon
has. So would I probably, but I can see how someone could make a debate for Bowser, post TP you'd have to be out of your mind. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 9:57:31 PM | message detail |
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2k3 was probably Tidus' best year, and even then I have a bad feeling about putting him over Dante. And Magus 2k5 is overrated somewhere in the whole mess...I'm just not sure if it's him overperforming, Knuckles overperforming, or Vincent overperforming that does it. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:01:43 PM | message detail |
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I'd be tempted to take Bowser in a rematch if Snake in SSBB wasn't still
causing buzz all around. He's had NSMB while Ganon has had nothing...I
don't see what's wrong with that pick, at least indirectly. And direct performances on common opponents close in time don't necessarily ensure that the winner goes exactly that way. Mega Man clearly outperformed Mario on Sephy in 2k3 (while some might argue that he was stronger then, I hesitate). Zero clearly outperformed Snake on Mega Man in 2k4. It doesn't always turn out like the stats would show, y'know... --- Commit it to memory. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/25/2006 10:08:33 PM | message detail |
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And direct performances on common opponents close in time don't
necessarily ensure that the winner goes exactly that way. Mega Man
clearly outperformed Mario on Sephy in 2k3 (while some might argue that
he was stronger then, I hesitate). Zero clearly outperformed Snake on
Mega Man in 2k4. It doesn't always turn out like the stats would show,
y'know... So, you think that if Frog and Zero's positions in 2k4 had been switched, Snake would still have won? --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Super Luigi | Posted 8/25/2006 10:11:15 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Bowser over Ganon. And who the hell would pick Ganon over Snake? --- Currently playing : Resident Evil 4(GC),NCAA Football 07(Xbox),Kirby Canvas Curse(DS). XBL Gamertag - SuPer MiKe 86. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/25/2006 10:12:27 PM | message detail |
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Depends on where you place the blame for Frog's fluke. If it was all
Frog (CT sprite overperforming, bandwagon), then I do take Snake in
that match. If it had to do with Solid ****, then I of course take Zero
-- as well as a LOT of others -- over Snake. However, Snake went out to Mega Man, which is what his value is based on. I don't see Zero beating *that* Snake. --- Commit it to memory. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/25/2006 10:13:32 PM | message detail |
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So, you think that if Frog and Zero's positions in 2k4 had been switched, Snake would still have won? Absolutely. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... Part of your woooorld! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2006 10:13:52 PM | message detail |
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And who the hell would pick Ganon over Snake? It's not like it's a foolish pick or anything. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/25/2006 10:15:15 PM | message detail |
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I like how people are taking a 1% difference between Ganon and Bowser
on a common opponent automatically means that Ganon is stronger than
Bowser. Random fluctuation anyone? A concentrated last ditch effort by
fans to take down Sephiroth? Hell, just about anything
can make up that 1% or so between Bowser and Ganon's performances on
Sephy. Bowser probably having more hardcore fans alone can be enough to
make that difference up. Bowser and Ganondorf are more or less equals.
I definitely wouldn't use a 1% difference as a deciding factor to
determine who is stronger. As Karma Hunter said before, Bowser could already be the stronger one. I don't exactly buy all this talk of Ganon being stronger than Snake just because he outdid Bowser by a tad against Sephiroth and Bowser's nearly taking out Snake... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |