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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 347
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| Draco1214 | Posted 8/22/2006 5:32:36 PM | message detail |
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I'd put Cait Sith at the fodder line (whatever Vyse's value was before his colossal drop last year). So... Sora (2004c) VS Vyse (2004c) Sora has a strength of 28.93. Vyse has a strength of 19.21. Sora wins with 66.80% of the vote! A win of 30,076 with 89,517 total votes cast. This is before KH2. Post-KH2, I'd say Sora breaks 70% on him. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Zombies Yay | Posted 8/22/2006 5:33:15 PM | message detail |
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EC is so oblivious... --- ~Sess~ |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/22/2006 5:35:15 PM | message detail |
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Your mom is oblivious. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Zombies Yay | Posted 8/22/2006 5:35:43 PM | message detail |
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Whatever you say, Mr. Hairy Balls. --- ~Sess~ |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 5:36:27 PM | message detail |
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I see the general consensus is that Auron would beat Tidus and Vivi
would beat Zidane, but...exactly how would you expect those matches to
go? Exactly as they're predicted to? Would Tidus/Zidane score some rSFF
on either despite losing? Would they get SFFed? --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/22/2006 5:39:00 PM | message detail |
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I'm a lot more comfortable with Vivi taking out Zidane than I am with
Auron taking out Tidus, something just SCREAMS to me that taking Auron
for granted in that match-up is oh so wrong. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 5:40:45 PM | message detail |
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Well, I'm also a lot more confident on Vivi > Zidane just because
Zidane would have to have been SFFed a bunch by Crono and then score a
heckuva lot of rSFF on Vivi just to stay in the game...but I was more
curious about the percentages in that match. Tidus has a lot more going for him...but it's hard for me to give him the edge when looking at Auron and the edge he has now in KH2. --- Commit it to memory. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/22/2006 5:43:13 PM | message detail |
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I don't buy the size of the roll thing at all.... in fact I'm banking
on Square not getting much of a boost at all this year overall as a
result of KHII, I attribute 2K3 solely to increased votals, and you
guys wanting to throw the reasoning onto something gaming related. Not
you specifically mind you, don't even know when you started coming
here, but you get the idea. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/22/2006 6:05:43 PM | message detail |
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BUT EXPLICIT CONTENT, WE HAVE HIGH VOTE TOTALS THIS YEAR TOO! WHAT'S YOUR CALL?! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/22/2006 6:18:30 PM | message detail |
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KH2 won't cause a widespread Square boost like in 2003, but the
characters who were in it will still benefit from it, especially when
there are some signs pointing to a sizable KH2 boost. KH's performance
last contest, Sora getting the 1-seed, etc. Also, KH2 has done a lot for the series. Square fans no longer look at the franchise as some FF/Disney spinoff. KH2 helped establish KH as a flagship Square series and it's getting a lot of respect that it didn't have before. As for Sora, KH2 actually made him into a likable character and he doesn't get as much hate as he used to from what I've seen. The FF characters also had bigger roles in KH2 than they did in the first one, particularly Squall and Auron. KH2 is a new game and a very popular one at that. I see no reason to believe that the Square characters in it will not get a boost from it. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 6:52:20 PM | message detail |
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So who wins between Tidus and Auron? Auron. I have a hard time thinking the people who are fans of both would prefer Tidus there. And after KH2, Auron is going to get some kind of boost, which will just further separate him from Tidus. I think Auron would actually win by more than what the stats would predict now. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/22/2006 6:54:19 PM | message detail |
| There's absolutely nothing wrong with Auron being more popular than Tidus. You shouldn't even try to bring the "main character" argument there. From the inception of FFX, Auron was designed to be more likable than Tidus. You would expect him to be stronger than Tidus. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 7:06:00 PM | message detail |
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Zero Auron -- This match seems to come up a lot these days. Personally, I expect Auron's KH2 boost to out do whatever it is that Zero may have been affected by with SFF. I think Auron would just edge out Zero in an actual match, but it going Zero's would not be surprising at all. This is really tough match. I think both of these guys are out done by Vincent and Bowser though. Bowser Vincent -- Interestingly, this goes against my initial prediction of Vincent against Bowser. Perhaps I am being a bit pessimistic about Dirge of Cerberus, but I'm not sure how well it actually will end up helping him. It isn't too encouraging that it was given such poor reviews despite the rather nice localization. Added to that, this match might come during the hype for Wii's launch, which certainly gives a slight edge to any Nintendo character after they already have a clear edge as it is. One day I'll be Bowser, one day I'll be Vincent -- this would be one of those last minute decisions. Vincent's plenty capable of winning this match though, no doubt about it. And, uh, either beat Zero/Auron. No real need to even discuss those really. CATS Captain Falcon -- Falcon wins the pack!! ... But looking at that puts Falcon above Ness, which is not going to happen...but I can't see Freeman beating Ness, or Falcon for that matter. Maybe it's just hard seeing Freeman so damn high instead of absolute fodder. >> --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/22/2006 7:10:40 PM | message detail |
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DK would beat Frog. More in-depth reasoning is this: MC received 40%
against Aeris in 2K3 and 39% against Crono in 2K5...he had to have
boosted somewhere, and I think his biggest boost would've been between
2K4 (Frog/MC) and 2K5 (DK/MC) due to Halo 2. So, DK wins. Samus actually had a higher prediction percentage in that match, IIRC. Sonic winning would've been quite an upset. Nitpicky here, but 31% picked Samus there. If less than 31% picked Sonic, that means over 38% of the brackets would have picked Ryu, Tidus, or Claire Redfield over Samus AND Sonic...doubt it. As for Vivi vs. Zidane, I honestly think Vivi would SFF Zidane...Vivi avoided it against Sephiroth, of all characters. Auron/Tidus? I could see there either being no SFF or Auron being helped by it...but no SFF favoring Tidus. And...I think I'd take Sora over Yuffie among the FF7 cast. Yuffie'd probably get some rSFF, but I think Sora's stronger by enough. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 7:10:54 PM | message detail |
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in fact I'm banking on Square not getting much of a boost at all this year overall as a result of KHII, Perhaps not a widespread boost, but I think it'd be a bit foolish to think that the characters who did play a role in the game won't be getting any boosts. Kingdom Hearts II is clearly a very popular game and one that GameFAQs definitely took to. The Square characters that it can affect don't need astronomical boosts in order to get over some "humps." Tifa, Auron, Cloud, Aerith, Squall -- they all need rather small boosts of a few percentage points to overcome other characters and make matches more competitive. I don't think you're going to see anything similar to 2003, where Square was dominant and there were some pretty widespread boosts throughout. I think this may be more about the role in the game over the influx of Square fans, unless we have received that influx and it just wasn't as apparent as before. I think you're definitely going to see Square being more competitive and at the strongest they've ever been though. This is the first year when you can actually name off multiple games they've released before, during, or slightly after in a contest. Nintendo isn't going anywhere; in fact, they've got reason to go up mid-contest, but Square's going to be stronger this year than ever before...but so is Nintendo. It should be good. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| creativename | Posted 8/22/2006 7:43:18 PM | message detail |
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I actually agree with pretty much everything Yesmar said regarding
choking...but my perception will remain that DK is a choker, even if it
doesn't entirely make sense. After all, he already had a rep for
choking even before his last couple chokes. Draco1214: KH2 won't cause a widespread Square boost like in 2003, but the characters who were in it will still benefit from it Agreed. The Wii coming out could benefit Nintendo as a whole. But I'm surprised that no one has mentioned a possible Final Fantasy XII boost. The Wii is obviously a bigger deal, but FF12 is pretty big too. Now, FF12 benefiting Square as a whole is much more debatable than the Wii helping Nintendo characters, because those Nintendo characters will be in Wii games; whereas Final Fantasy characters would have to rely on an indirect boost. But if "increased company fan visitors" means anything, FF12 could help Square a bit. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 8/22/2006 7:45:04 PM | message detail |
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Actually when I said "Agreed" to KH2 helping those in it, I meant new
characters like Auron (and Vivi right?). I don't see it helping
Cloud/Sephiroth/Aeris at all. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 7:48:14 PM | message detail |
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Auron, Tifa, Vivi, Seifer, Fujin, Raijin, Yuna/Rikku/Paine, and Sezter
were all the new Final Fantasy characters in KH2, I believe. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| creativename | Posted 8/22/2006 7:54:05 PM | message detail |
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Tifa? Really? Hmm. That might actually change a result, e.g. if we see Zelda/Tifa. And The Final Fantasy X-2 girls too eh? Were these roles of any substance though, or were they just trivial? Because if it was like Aeris in the first one it shouldn't matter much for any of them. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 7:55:56 PM | message detail |
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Their roles were rather minor and not even that cool to begin with --
they were fairies who appeared...twice, I think. It shouldn't amount to
much of anything. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| KingBartz | Posted 8/22/2006 7:57:32 PM | message detail |
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Auron would definately beat Meg Ryan --- This life lesson was brought to you by the one and only KingBartz. |
| Lopen | Posted 8/22/2006 8:07:08 PM | message detail |
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Not that it matters, but Sephiroth got the biggest boost out of the FF characters as it relates to me from KH2. That boss battle was so good. I could see Tidus hanging tough with Auron, though I'd still take Auron for the win. On the other hand, I think Zidane would get thrashed by Vivi... probably worse than Solid Snake/Raiden. Oh yeah. --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/22/2006 8:13:00 PM | message detail |
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I'd also like to see Sora v. Red XIII, Barret, Cid, Yuffie, or any other lesser FFVII character. I don't think I could pick him in any of those matches, unless GameFAQs really is racist. Sora would take any of them; he really has grown quite a bit since his Aeris doubling him days. Should a rematch between the two ever occur, it would be much closer. Last year he kept Snake from doubling him (though saying that as an accomplishment hurts, because I felt it was a really bad showing by Sora), and he's had KH2 since then. If Aeris/Sora popped up in the bracket, I would probably go with Sora for the upset, but would feel hesitant about it. The Square sff could hurt, but Sora's had two solid selling games since then; I wouldn't expect his fanbase to abandon him so easily. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/22/2006 8:14:12 PM | message detail |
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Taking Sora > Aeris in a rematch is bracket suicide. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Yesmar | Posted 8/22/2006 8:16:19 PM | message detail |
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This has been partly said before but: I don't think Auron will increase as much due to KHII as the Square characters in 2003 did. I think that the characters mostly boosted due to a voter shift towards Square rather than their appearances in Kingdom Hearts. Even if you ignore my theories, the general idea behind KHF was the the characters' appearances in the game made people interested in their original games and made them want to go out and play the other Final Fantasy games. If that's indeed what happened, then people already played FFX, so Auron wouldn't get as big of a boost as in 2003 anyway. Also, speaking of matches like Auron/Tidus, Vivi/Zidane, and I'll add Kratos/Lloyd. In all of these match-ups, the "fan-favorite" would most likely beat the hero, and according to the stats, they wouldn't be all that close. That being said, why is Magus, one of the biggest "fan-favorites" in RPGS, so far behind Crono in popularity? I'm sure part of it is because Crono himself inspires barely any hate, but the gap in 2005 was sizable. The only thing I can think of is that the name of the game is Chrono Trigger. Just out of curiosity, assuming Crono's name stays the same, how popular do you think he'd be if the game was called Time Trigger instead? --- Z1mZum totally owned me in the July 2006 Guru Contest The Funky Chickens in Trivia XVIII |
| Who Cares? | Posted 8/22/2006 8:18:48 PM | message detail |
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Their roles were rather minor and not even that cool to begin with
-- they were fairies who appeared...twice, I think. It shouldn't amount
to much of anything. Heh, y'know before you said that, I completely forgot they were in the game...thus proving your point about how small & unmemorable their roles were. --- Waiting for the bracket! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 8:19:32 PM | message detail |
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One game is not going to turn a doubling into a victory for Sora. Aeris
is no Snake, and she still pulled that off -- and the reasoning is that
a huge number of the fans of KH are already fans of FF to begin with.
Sora may have done some work toward displacing characters like, maybe,
Tidus, but he has a LONG way to go before even touching the near-elites
of Final Fantasy. And that's what Aeris is. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 8:24:48 PM | message detail |
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Crono is expected to 60-40 Magus indirectly. Sonic is expected to 58-42 Knuckles indirectly. Mario is expected to 57-43 Bowser indirectly. Mega Man got 56-44 on Zero directly. Zero seems to be the exception to the rule, and even that wasn't terribly close. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 8:27:14 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and Cloud gets 66-34 on Vincent, FFVII's big fan-favorite...unless
you consider that to be Sephiroth, in which case it's another exception. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 8:30:44 PM | message detail |
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If that's indeed what happened, then people already played FFX, so Auron wouldn't get as big of a boost as in 2003 anyway. For whatever it's worth, there was an abundance of questions relating to Auron on the KH2 board during its peak. Everyone on there seemed to think Auron was extremely cool -- which he was -- but they also had a lot questions concerning his appearance on whatnot. Of course, I agree entirely that the boost he might get, if it is based on his role, wouldn't be as substantial as it might be in 2003. He doesn't really need to get any large boost like that anyway, unless we're talking about Auron taking out Ganon this year, which would need a nice 3 - 5% boost depending. In order to hang with Zero, he'll need something like a 2% boost from his current statistical rating, which may be a bit underrated from any possible Samus/Ganon SFF. So I think as far his match-ups go, he's looking pretty nice. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 8:34:07 PM | message detail |
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Even if Auron gets as little of a boost as Aeris did from
2k2 to 2k3, he moves up into that 49% range on Ganondorf. And his role
in KH2
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Aeris' in KH1, so if that were to matter at all he should win against
Ganon...right? --- Commit it to memory. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/22/2006 8:44:25 PM | message detail |
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One game is not going to turn a doubling into a victory for Sora.
Aeris is no Snake, and she still pulled that off -- and the reasoning
is that a huge number of the fans of KH are already fans of FF to begin
with. Sora may have done some work toward displacing characters like,
maybe, Tidus, but he has a LONG way to go before even touching the
near-elites of Final Fantasy. And that's what Aeris is. I realize he has a lot of ground to cover, but I don't think it's impossible. Aeris is no Snake, that's right, so next time around she sure isn't going to touch that 66%. Let's see past results just for kick. Granted, we have to dig way into the past for Aeris' matches, but, hey, why not? Kasumi 37.27% 22688 Aeris 62.73% 38190 TOTAL VOTES 60878 Aeris 76.93% 50055 Tina Armstrong 23.07% 15009 TOTAL VOTES 65064 Aeris 43.46% 32702 Solid Snake 56.54% 42545 TOTAL VOTES 75247 Sora 33.34% 32614 Aeris Gainsborough 66.66% 65196 TOTAL VOTES 97810 Aeris Gainsborough 60.15% 65136 Master Chief 39.85% 43161 TOTAL VOTES 108297 Aeris Gainsborough 46.98% 50241 Sonic the Hedgehog 53.02% 56701 TOTAL VOTES 106942 Sora 65.55% 54034 HK-47 34.45% 28392 TOTAL VOTES 82426 Sora 61.72% 49626 Ryu Hayabusa 38.28% 30773 TOTAL VOTES 80399 Sora 34.15% 29880 Samus Aran 65.85% 57627 TOTAL VOTES 87507 Sora 70.73% 62348 Agent 47 29.27% 25796 TOTAL VOTES 88144 Alucard 44.65% 43055 Sora 55.35% 53371 TOTAL VOTES 96426 Solid Snake 65.26% 63664 Sora 34.74% 33887 TOTAL VOTES 97551 Okay, after looking back, I wanted to delete them all becuase I saw how clearly inferior Sora's matches were, but it took too much time to get all of them together. Looking back made me really wonder again why Aeris wasn't in the past two contests. So yeah, Aeris > Sora, carry on, but it would at least be closer. --- Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 9:53:15 PM | message detail |
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so if that were to matter at all he should win against Ganon...right? It may be strange, but I wouldn't really consider the role being the reason for the 2003 increase. I'm more of a Square influx type person when it comes to that, but for whatever reason, I see the role being more of a reason for an increase here. Perhaps I'm just underestimating what potential Square influx we may have gotten -- does SMB beat FF without it kind of thing (I know, I know, but I'm just saying). I don't think you'll see an across the board increase for Square characters, which is why I don't think we're going to see that big influx. So I figure the reason for the 2003 increase dealt more with the influx and the 2006 increase will deal more with the role, which should net many of the characters a good couple of percent increases for those who had a prominent role. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/22/2006 9:55:23 PM | message detail |
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Even if Auron gets as little of a boost as Aeris did from 2k2 to
2k3, he moves up into that 49% range on Ganondorf. And his role in KH2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Aeris' in KH1, so if that were to matter at all he should win against
Ganon...right? If you don't think Nintendo got a boost at all, go ahead and make that pick. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/22/2006 10:04:44 PM | message detail |
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Sora may have done some work toward displacing characters like,
maybe, Tidus, but he has a LONG way to go before even touching the
near-elites of Final Fantasy. That won't necessarily stop him from touching near-elites that aren't Squaresoft, though. I think that Sora is like Samus...he seems to get extra fans outside the Square fanbase (moreso than other Square characters), but within the Square fanbase he still gets creamed. Hanging with Kirby and Dante and such may be hard to believe, but he was at 29% on BL back in 2K4...since then he's had KH:CoM, and even that seemed to boost him a little (55/45 win over Alucard following). This year he had KH2, which is much more popular (and hyped) than the first, he has a better outfit, his voice is lower...admittedly he's still his same annoying self. You get the point. I don't think Auron will increase as much due to KHII as the Square characters in 2003 did. I think that the characters mostly boosted due to a voter shift towards Square rather than their appearances in Kingdom Hearts. I think you're right, but Auron still had a bigger role in KHII than any other FF character. He'll still get the biggest boost, I bet. (plus KH2 > KH1 in popularity) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/22/2006 10:06:41 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and Cloud gets 66-34 on Vincent, FFVII's big
fan-favorite...unless you consider that to be Sephiroth, in which case
it's another exception. Cloud is FFVII's fan-favorite, not Vincent. The main character can be the fan-favorite too, you know. Those are the times when we see truly strong characters. Even if Auron gets as little of a boost as Aeris did from 2k2 to 2k3, he moves up into that 49% range on Ganondorf. And his role in KH2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aeris' in KH1, so if that were to matter at all he should win against Ganon...right? Well, there's this little game called Twilight Princess coming out that has something to say about that. But if Ganon was already stronger than Bowser in 2k5, we could see Auron > Bowser in 2k6. --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 10:07:27 PM | message detail |
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Not to get anyone too excited since it may not show up, but tonight may
be the big Wii release date/price reveal...which has a profound impact
on the contest!! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/22/2006 10:09:14 PM | message detail |
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Not to get anyone too excited since it may not show up, but tonight
may be the big Wii release date/price reveal...which has a profound
impact on the contest!! Assume MP3 comes out on the first day of the ToC. Can Samus win? --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 10:10:53 PM | message detail |
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Who is she facing? Mario? After the beating he gave her last year, I doubt Corruption is going to swing that many votes in her favor. You basically have this massive influx of Nintendo fans, and they still would likely prefer Mario over Samus. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/22/2006 10:14:48 PM | message detail |
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Actually, Sephiroth is the fan-favorite...get it right, people! Odds may not be favoring Auron over Bowser, but after the losses of Ocelot and Magus last year I'm open to most any upset if they're even remotely close to each other. I'm glad you guys are talking about Square influx these days...I remember when most of you guys thought that if a character wasn't in KH they couldn't have POSSIBLY boosted. I hope the PS3 release-date helps the non-Nintendo/Square characters as much as the Wii will help the Nintendo characters...the amount Nintendo and Square have distanced themselves from the rest of the pack is disturbing enough...I don't want it to happen even -more-. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 10:37:49 PM | message detail |
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If you don't think Nintendo got a boost at all, go ahead and make that pick. Nintendo boosting FROM 2k5? Not until the Wii releases. IF Ganon/Auron were to happen again, it would likely be pretty darned early, probably before the release of the Wii and TP. --- Commit it to memory. |
| Unpleased Limecat | Posted 8/22/2006 10:49:18 PM | message detail |
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Haven't caught up with stats topic yet, but.... WTF? Nidoran F? 32-32
bracket? Solano not getting in, when Nidoran F does? Give me a break. --- Limecat is not pleased. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 10:54:25 PM | message detail |
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All part of the plan...to ruin the next GameFAQs contest! lolololol *dies* --- Commit it to memory. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/22/2006 10:55:43 PM | message detail |
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IF Ganon/Auron were to happen again, it would likely be pretty darned early, probably before the release of the Wii and TP. And then it would depend on how much you think Auron boosted. Auron/Zero and then the next one facing Ganon in the second round would be rather awesome, I think!! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Unpleased Limecat | Posted 8/22/2006 11:32:05 PM | message detail |
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I'm also surprised that Soma got in. I have an FAQ posted for DoS, and the game isn't _that_ popular according to my hits. --- Limecat is not pleased. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/22/2006 11:39:09 PM | message detail |
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I don't see Ganon getting pitted against Auron again though...I see
G-dorf, Vincent, and probably another near-elite or two getting placed
in another 'Road of Hell' for Snake. Which I wouldn't necessarily mind,
but...Snake getting upset isn't much more different than, say, Bowser
getting upset from a purely objective standpoint. It's just the idea of
the Noble Nine that makes it that to the board. --- Commit it to memory. |
| voltch | Posted 8/23/2006 12:40:01 AM | message detail |
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so whose roll? --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever contest. |
| Redtooth | Posted 8/23/2006 1:25:22 AM | message detail |
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Roll is a character from Mega Man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_(Mega_Man) --- Z1mZum>Redtooth Nice list, I counted twenty that would be in my top ten - BlondeAfroHero7 |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/23/2006 1:32:47 AM | message detail |
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I'm actually curious to see how strong Sora will be now after KH2.
Chances are he's likely stronger than 2005 stats say he is, and if the
KH2 boost is large enough, he could possibly reach near-elite status. I
know it's a stretch, but the possibility is always there. It's not that big of a stretch IMO. I've been thinking about Sora, let me just copy what I said on the four pack of fun board (Sora/Luigi, Tidus/Ryu): I've been thinking about Sora, and where exactly he fits into the stats (because I fear him busting my bracket). In 2k3, he has an Xs of 21.88%, but is SFF'd by Aeris so it's hardly usable. 2k4 is a year where his Xs is perfectly accurate at 28.93% (base link). In 2k5, he has an Xs of 25.69%, which is odd because KH: CoM has been released since the last contest (decent reviews, strong sales, exposure to new audience). Oddly, Sora looked as strong as ever after beating Alucard comfortably with over 55%. Something happened in Snake - Sora. That's rather obvious. I'm sticking to it being SFF, but if you want to allot it to pic factor, fine by me. Whatever works. Basing Sora 2k5 off Alucard 2k3, Sora 2k5 has an Xs of 30.86%. Basing Sora off Alucard 2k4 (through Ganondorf 2k4, giving him an Xs of 32% rather than the stat- adjusted 34.72% he's been given, thusly underrating Sora, if anything), Sora has an Xs of 30.7%. I find it reasonable and logical that Sora went up a little under 2% after 2k4, after CoM was released. Certainly more reasonable than him dropping over 3% after a new release. I assume his 2k5's Xs is indeed around 30.75%. Luigi's Xs is, luckily, perfectly accurate at 31.32%. That's a bit stronger than Sora, but KH2 has been released since then, and it really should boost Sora more than NSMB should boost Luigi. Anyway, Tidus was behind Bowser/Snake and Kirby/Bowser (as opposed to Ryu who is only behind Bowser/Snake), and still rated under Ryu in the stats. As opposed to Sora, these guys are overrated, if anything, and unless Tidus actually faces Sora I'm certain he's weaker. So, Sora > Ryu. --- The blood of the weak shall be the ink with which we scribe great Yawgmoth's glorious name. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/23/2006 7:35:33 AM | message detail |
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