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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 346
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| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 7:41:45 PM | message detail |
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Nah, I'd take Luigi over Ryu in an instant, w/o even thinking. People above Luigi that I would pick Luigi to beat: Dante, Knux, Zero (maybe, I think that'd be a very close match), and Magus. People below Luigi that I think Luigi might struggle with: Auron --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:42:40 PM | message detail |
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If there's anything that overrates Luigi (and Tifa) in my eyes, it's
Mega Man/Sonic. People are still shocked that Sonic did so well on Mega
Man, especially after Link/MM SFF was more or less proven to be true
the round beforehand. If Sonic had gone out to Crono it might have been
one thing, but Sonic/Mega Man is a match like Mario/Sonic -- a match
that I wouldn't necessarily expect to go by the stats simply because of
what it is. There is an intense rivarly surrounding that matchup, the
mystique surrounding it and the history between the two characters.
It's probably not anything significant, but I have the suspicion that
Sonic might have done a *little* too well on Mega Man, which is the one
thing that keeps me from taking him over Crono without a second
thought. And I'll likely still take him to win the male bracket...but
if he takes an apparent 'dip', I won't exactly be surprised. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 7:44:24 PM | message detail |
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^So, you think Sonic is possibly going to take a 'dip', but you think
he'll make it through Mega Man this time around? I guess you just think
MM took a bigger dip? --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:44:51 PM | message detail |
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You're confusing me... I don't know whether you're expecting Sonic to
do better or worse this year. At first I thought better, but now I'm
thinking worse. It's probably the fact that I'm tired as hell, and
haven't eaten anything all day aside from a tray of ice cubes. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 7:45:13 PM | message detail |
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I'd take him over the same characters, too. I would take Luigi over a
large number of characters...but Ryu still seems just odd for some
reason. I suppose it's just because Ryu's been higher practically every
year they've both been in the contest. The deal with Auron is pretty self-explanatory given what he's had in the past year, which pretty much out does what Luigi has had. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 7:50:36 PM | message detail |
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The Non-Noble Nine Nintendo Nine (try saying that really fast) will beat any character except for the FFVII trio. Odd, Squall could potentially beat all but the top three, and he's already beaten two of them. Hey, and why do Luigi and Kirby seem to grow so much? Because they're based on 2003 Squall, which is obviously wrong! He's much stronger! Besides, Luigi being below DK in 2003 made no sense whatsoever. Besides, Jill 2002 and Jill 2003 line up pretty well if you adjust Squall accordingly. Of course, Hayabusa/Jill seems to throw a lot of things off, but that's 2004. Perhaps that's when she dropped. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:51:04 PM | message detail |
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Really? Just out of curiosity, who might those be? Going by face value stats...Yoshi (duh), Ryu, Sora, Tidus, Ganondorf...and though they're technically above him in the stats, I think Dante and Knuckles are higher than they should be, but I'd take them over Luigi without a second thought. And I'd never question Zero > Luigi. ^So, you think Sonic is possibly going to take a 'dip', but you think he'll make it through Mega Man this time around? I guess you just think MM took a bigger dip? No, what I'm saying is that a 'dip' of sorts wouldn't be indicative of Sonic losing popularity, but instead being slightly overrated by the MM/Sonic match. Being that it was that match in the first place that got me second guessing, I wouldn't expect Sonic to do worse this year. I'm expecting him to win outright if he and MM meet up, no matter what. You're confusing me... I don't know whether you're expecting Sonic to do better or worse this year. I don't know myself. He could do better (if he was legit and boosts a lil' more) or he could do worse (if he wasn't). My bias makes me choose the former, but I'm wary of the latter. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 7:54:18 PM | message detail |
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Hmm, Luigi v Squall redux! How much does Squall win by? --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:55:06 PM | message detail |
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Bah, I forgot Auron. Him, too. And Jill is massively underrated in 2k4. Hayabusa's apparent 'boost' in 2k5 despite being behind a probable SFF'd Zero, the fact Hayabusa was such a heavy favorite in the first place, the weirdness of that match, and the way she just plummets off the face of the earth leave me thinking there's no way 2k4 has Jill right. I can virtually guarantee she'll look great after this contest is over. I'd take her over Peach, that's for sure. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 7:56:36 PM | message detail |
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the fact Hayabusa was such a heavy favorite in the first place When? Hayabusa/Jill? Ms. Valentine was the bracket favorite, yo. --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:58:03 PM | message detail |
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Bracket favorite != board favorite, friend. When the board pushes for
their choice to win, it matters a lot more than the casual pick. And
the board probably never mattered as much in the close matches as it
did in 2k4, seeing as how there were so few matches in question and the
votals were so abysmal. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 7:58:50 PM | message detail |
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When the board pushes for their choice to win, it matters a lot more than the casual pick. Since when do a couple hundred people matter more than 30,000? --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:00:12 PM | message detail |
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Going by face value stats...Yoshi (duh), Ryu, Sora, Tidus, Ganondorf...and though they're technically above him in the stats, I think Dante and Knuckles are higher than they should be, but I'd take them over Luigi without a second thought. Hmm. I know it might have been a few, but that's definitely more than I was expecting. This is primarily because you think Luigi is too high based on ... Mega Man/Sonic, right? Eh, I have trouble believing he's too high, myself, as he seems at a fine position right now. I'm expecting some slight boosting for him this upcoming year, too. The most striking of that list, though, is Tidus. I wouldn't even have to give that one a second thought. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:01:59 PM | message detail |
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How much does Squall win by? Squall? Luigi clearly dominates due to NintendoFAQs! (Or Squall with about 55%!!) --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:03:30 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I'm not saying the *percentages* would have been vastly different
in that match...but seeing as how it's the second closest match of all
time, I do think the winner would have been. If I were going to chalk
up anything to the percentages I would attribute it to how the match
was run... but in either case the issue is how they went out, and I
can't see Jill stinking up the place in that second round like Arabusa
did. Not that she didn't necessarily take a dive, either, but especially considering Squall being behind Link/Samus the previous year...nah. She's not that weak. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2006 8:05:43 PM | message detail |
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EC spoke for me there -- considering how huge SSB/M is in general/the
Nintendo fanbase and how much better Kirby is in both games than Bowser
in just SSBM, I don't see why it's so unruly for Kirby to pull some
swing-votes in that match. I've never said that his complete boost from
last year was because of it, even -- I can't imagine Canvas Curse
hurting him any, and the Nintendo Boost in general probably helped his
cause too...not to mention what could have simply just been some
transitivity from year to year. I'm not saying Kirby should have gotten
44.7% on Bowser like Kirby-by-adjusted-Tidus-2k4 says, but I don't
think that KCC and MAYBE the Nintendo Boost favoring Kirby more than
Bowser (when both Mario and Luigi saw very big jumps last year) are
enough for him to get him a legit 47.88%. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:06:53 PM | message detail |
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What's wrong with Kirby getting a legit 47.88% when Squall > Bowser, and Squall did better? --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 8:08:41 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Bowser over Squall though, that's why I have a problem with
Kirby's number on Bowser. I doubt Squall could outpreform Bowser on
Snake, sprite or no sprite. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:08:49 PM | message detail |
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What's wrong with Kirby getting a legit 47.88% when Squall > Bowser, and Squall did better? I think that may be where the issue lies. <_< --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:09:43 PM | message detail |
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The problem of Kirby's overratedness lies in Bowser/Snake, not Kirby/Bowser, my friends! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2006 8:09:51 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd take Bowser over Squall last year too. Today's Squall may be a different story, but last year's? I'm not thinking twice. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:10:45 PM | message detail |
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Though Squall > Bowser is such a funny concept to me, because while
many people do take that upset, they don't entertain Squall >
Snake...and why? Because Snake will use the power of rSFF HELL YEAH. (note that I do not necessarily disagree with this, which tickles me even more) --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:11:00 PM | message detail |
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Squall > Bowser, He tried to slip in a quick one! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:11:30 PM | message detail |
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Hey, you guys know that if Squall still beats Kirby with 55%, Bowser's
where some of you guys think he should be in relation to Ganondorf
(that is, slightly below)! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:12:23 PM | message detail |
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He tried to slip in a quick one! Yeah, since I want as many people as possible to think Bowser is stronger. Less competition for me to worry about! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:12:33 PM | message detail |
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Eh, Bowser ain't that low. Kirby had more reason to boost than Squall, I doubt Squall could keep the puffball under 48%. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2006 8:12:53 PM | message detail |
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Sucks for you that I don't think Ganon > Bowser anymore! --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:13:06 PM | message detail |
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Oh, Squall would beat Kirby more than Bowser did! Bank on it! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:13:33 PM | message detail |
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Sucks for you that I don't think Ganon > Bowser anymore! Good, since it was stupid to think that in the first place! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 8:14:15 PM | message detail |
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Statwise I think Ganon>Bowser>Squall (as in, against a common
opponent with no possibility of oddities I'd take Ganon to do the
best), though Bowser would beat Ganon for very much the same reason
Mario beat Samus. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:14:49 PM | message detail |
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Bowser > Ganon...before TP! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:15:02 PM | message detail |
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And after! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:15:52 PM | message detail |
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My bracket would thank you!! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:16:20 PM | message detail |
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Thank me for enlightening you? I'd say so! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 8/19/2006 8:16:44 PM | message detail |
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*arrives late* ...huh? I thought Ganon > Bowser was the majority opinion round these parts! --- This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy! |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:17:33 PM | message detail |
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Depends. What do YOU think, Ed Bellis? The opposite is most likely correct!! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 8:17:36 PM | message detail |
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Man, now I want to see Squall/Snake. <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4430/t30mpt4.png Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 8:17:48 PM | message detail |
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...Again. <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4430/t30mpt4.png Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:18:34 PM | message detail |
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I can guarantee the board would favor Ganon, but there's a ton of
Bowser marks round these parts. Besides, his performance is fresher in
our minds -- 50/50 with Snake in the Elite Eight speaks volumes
compared to getting blown-out by Samus worse than Sephiroth... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:19:39 PM | message detail |
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"These parts" being the stats topics, of course. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 8/19/2006 8:19:46 PM | message detail |
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Well, I think Squall beats them both, Leon. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --- This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy! |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:20:28 PM | message detail |
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That thought is clearly not your own! It was stolen from me! And that wasn't the question! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 8/19/2006 8:21:26 PM | message detail |
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You're right, Leon. It wasn't the question. (By your rules, that means it was! YOU'RE CAUGHT IN A TANGLED WEB OF LIES!) --- This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy! |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 8:21:41 PM | message detail |
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I think the Dorf might be indirectly stronger than Bowser, but would
still lose against him in a direct. I mean, "It's freaking Bowser!" <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4430/t30mpt4.png Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:21:58 PM | message detail |
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...What are you talking about? --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 8:22:31 PM | message detail |
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Squall > Snake is probably the least enticing Noble-Nine upset for
me, especially if you consider potential "SFF" in 2k2...leaving only
KHF, and Snake/Sora is fair warning to those who think that'll make the
difference. I'd think Squall would max out at 47%, and Snake has the
potential to push him under 45% or worse depending on how weird the
match gets. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 8:22:58 PM | message detail |
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Thank me for enlightening you? I'd say so! Haw haw! It thanks you for eliminating yourself from the competition!! --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 8/19/2006 8:23:25 PM | message detail |
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...aaaaaand I'm leaving before I drag this any further off-topic. =P --- This was Ed Bellis, servant to the mighty Guru Z1mZum. Congrats, buddy! |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:23:27 PM | message detail |
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Meh, taking Squall to beat a Noble Niner was never my intention coming into this contest anyway. I'm not that delusional! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |
| LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/19/2006 8:24:11 PM | message detail |
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It thanks you for eliminating yourself from the competition!! Ah, just like my bracket thanked yours in 2004!! --- "A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul |