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| Haste_2 | Posted 8/19/2006 2:47:26 PM | message detail |
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So, with CJayC's "preliminary" 1/8 seeds...are they based on pure
nominations, or did CJayC tamper with them already? CATS tells you he
probably did mess with them... Young Link would only beat Mario because you wouldn't have to worry about seeing him under the title "Young Link" in the poll. :P Otherwise, Mario might actually have a shot. Pichu should take the crown for weakest rather than Game & Watch. Sheik should probably be a little higher. I agree with everything else, give or take a spot. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:48:32 PM | message detail |
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Forgot Ness. Link Young Link <_<; Mario Dr. Mario Samus Bowser Ganondorf Kirby Zelda Luigi Donkey Kong Fox Sheik Peach Mew-Two Falco Captain Falcon Ness Marth Roy Pikachu Jigglypuff Ice Climbers Mr. Game & Watch Pichu --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:50:24 PM | message detail |
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I put Sheik that low due to the fact that there are people who
shockingly didn't know that Sheik was Zelda, even AFTER SSBM. It
probably wouldn't matter much though, but there is still potential... "Why does Zelda turn into Sheik?" >_< --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 2:50:51 PM | message detail |
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For the NN9, I'd pick Zelda and below to lose to Squall. He'd probably
beat Bowser and the Dorf as well, but at least that could be debated. <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4430/t30mpt4.png Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/19/2006 3:14:25 PM | message detail |
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Kirby Zelda Gah, I can't believe people still think Kirby > Zelda. The stats aren't everything, folks! --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/19/2006 3:35:11 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Kirby over Zelda for the simple fact that Kirby could pull an rSFF on her like he did on Bowser. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| transience | Posted 8/19/2006 3:36:04 PM | message detail |
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I'm late to the party here, but there's no way Mega Man loses to Bowser
or Ganon. there's about a .01% chance he loses to Squall or Vincent,
and seeing as how Mega Man blasted Snake twice already I'd take him to
win that a third time. Sonic / Mega Man? tricky... I'd probably take Mega Man, because I know a lot of people want to take Sonic. --- xyzzy iddqd |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/19/2006 3:47:03 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Kirby over Zelda for the simple fact that Kirby could pull an rSFF on her like he did on Bowser. Kirby got no SFF on Bowser. Why would he? If you think because of SSB/M, then looks at Bowser/Ness. Ness is a better character in both Smash games, and yet he was still SFF'd by Bowser. If you think because of "main character factor", then did Squall and Crono also SFF Vincent? Kirby looks so good in the stats because of Solid ****, and nothing more. Bowser's whole division is overrated to hell and back. --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/19/2006 3:48:58 PM | message detail |
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Kirby/Vincent. Who wins? --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend And Tag Champ Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| plasmabeam | Posted 8/19/2006 3:52:36 PM | message detail |
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Ice Climbers should be last. --- Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/19/2006 3:52:58 PM | message detail |
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Kirby got no SFF on Bowser. even taking Solid Crap, I think Kirby still beats Zelda. In a close match, I can bet Kirby gets at least the majority of the Nintendo votes and that alone is enough for me. I don't think comparing the Square fanbase is going to prove that Kirby didn't rSFF Bowser, I'm just using my gut here. I can see Bowser fans being compelled to vote Kirby very easily. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/19/2006 3:53:55 PM | message detail |
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Vincent beats Kirby since he beat Squall. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them”- Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| plasmabeam | Posted 8/19/2006 3:54:49 PM | message detail |
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From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 8/19/2006 4:53:55 PM | Message Detail Vincent beats Kirby since he beat Squall. Agreed. Case closed. --- Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/19/2006 4:44:56 PM | message detail |
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About the Bowser/Snake picture... Snake looked far better than he did
against Frog, and Snake looked about the same as when he faced Ryu
(2K3). Yet Ryu went UP in the x-stats in 2K4. The "I feel asleep!"
quote surely wouldn't hurt Snake. Bowser's 59% against Ryu should
suggest he'd give Snake trouble, anyway...and Sonic got 56% against the
same Ryu the year before. If you think Kirby is inflated, blame it on
Kirby/Bowser. Kirby overperforming against Bowser -might- be plausible, though...Tidus and Ryu are next to each other in the x-stats, yet the previous year Tidus lost WAY worse than Ryu against fairly comparable opponents. On the other hand, in 2K2 Ryu and Tidus had similar (relative) x-stat values and were in the same division... On the other hand, I would think Kirby is more popular than Yoshi, so in that sense, its 48% against Bowser makes sense. Oh, geez, I sound like that old guy from Fiddler on the Roof. Well, since I can't find convincing evidence for anything AGAINST the matches being legit, I'm gonna assume they are accurate. I wouldn't say that Zelda is that easy to SFF. Yoshi was SFFed by Mega Man, but Zelda seemed to avoid it completely. (At the least maybe you could take that as a case to take her Ganondorf...) I don't think Kirby would have the advantage of SFF against Zelda, but...who knows? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/19/2006 4:48:55 PM | message detail |
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Don't tell me we have to wait another week for the rest of the bracket. -_- --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 4:50:53 PM | message detail |
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| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 4:51:20 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Zelda over Kirby with little thought. Even if Kirby appears stronger, I can't really see him beating Zelda. <3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3 --- http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4430/t30mpt4.png Creator of Topic 30,000,000 | Founder of the Nidoran F nomination drive. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/19/2006 4:55:48 PM | message detail |
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Yep, I'd take Zelda. --- The Summer 2006 Guru Contest: Where Z1mZum kicked my ass. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 5:05:30 PM | message detail |
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Kirby looks so good in the stats because of Solid ****, and nothing more. Bowser's whole division is overrated to hell and back. The way Bowser destroyed Ryu and Kirby dismantled Tidus indicates that they should still be somewhere in that area... If they are overrated, it really isn't by that much. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 5:07:44 PM | message detail |
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Meh, my post is redundant. Haste2 just said everything I was thinking about saying in detail. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/19/2006 5:08:48 PM | message detail |
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They definitely have legitimate power, but things always get tricky
when you're dealing with SFF matches. This is especially true for
Nintendo SFF, which has more percentage-swaying potential than any
other contest factor. --- The Summer 2006 Guru Contest: Where Z1mZum kicked my ass. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 5:19:19 PM | message detail |
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Zelda definitely beats Kirby. That one wouldn't be a problem for me. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 5:24:32 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I would definitely take Zelda over Kirby. But indirectly I think
they are around the same strength. Kirby was definitely stronger than
he was in 2k4 when Squall beat him. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/19/2006 5:26:33 PM | message detail |
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I'd even take Luigi over Kirby, damn the stats. --- Z1mZum owned me in the guru contest (by two points!). Damn you Z1mZum! |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2006 5:27:24 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe someone actually suggested Kirby could rSFF Zelda. --- Demyx > Axel Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills! |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 5:30:50 PM | message detail |
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With the whole Bowser thing, I still say that a lot of people didn't
think Kirby could step up to Bowser, so fans of both gave Kirby the
pity vote. I know I always give my vote to the clear loser when there are two characters that I like. I'm a huge Bowser fan and not much of a Kirby fan, and even I was tempted to vote for Kirby in that match. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 5:32:19 PM | message detail |
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I'd be compelled to take Luigi over Kirby too. It just seems like it's
improbable to happen, but I can't shake the feeling that Luigi could
win ... --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 5:36:02 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I would probably be enticed to take Luigi myself. I can't fathom Kirby being that
popular all of a sudden after being a punching bag for Jill Valentine,
Alucard, and Squall. But that beatdown of Tidus was a real
eye-opener... unless it was just Tidus being exposed as being even more
of a ninny or something. And it's not like there is something between
Kirby and Tidus that caused Kirby to overperform. It was pretty legit
in my eyes. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 5:53:02 PM | message detail |
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45% on Squall ain't shabby at all if you think he's legit in 2k5, and
Kirby/Alucard was a relatively close match. Taking out his 2k2
appearance -- and a *lot* of people had weird ones then -- Kirby could
have simply increased gradually over the years rather than it be 'all
at once'. He's been behind some iffy matches over the years. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 5:56:09 PM | message detail |
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And Luigi's got the same 'problem' Kirby does as well -- that "getting
an apparent massive popularity boost in 2k5" thing. Thinking about it,
there's always a large amount of people willing to take Luigi in the
intra-Nintendo upsets. I'm sure he would have been the massive favorite
against Bowser in 2k3, he had quite a few taking him in 2k4, and now
with Kirby...I've been lucky to have never been burnt by Luigi bombing,
and I don't intend to start now. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 5:57:01 PM | message detail |
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he had quite a few taking him in 2k4 over Yoshi, for clarification --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 6:02:25 PM | message detail |
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Zelda definitely beats Kirby. That one wouldn't be a problem for me. So does Tidus, m i rite?! --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 6:55:28 PM | message detail |
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Tidus isn't really comparable to Zelda, he was vastly overrated...Tidus
2k3 is even with Kirby 2k5. Aside from perhaps Snake looking like
someone poured some battery acid on him in that picture, Zelda doesn't
have much of that, and she proved herself against Mega Man as well. The
doubt here is on Kirby's strength rather than Zelda's weakness,
anyway... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| rpgapzx | Posted 8/19/2006 6:57:01 PM | message detail |
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Question: Who is/are the newest gaming icons you can think of?
What's your grounds for their iconic status if they're fairly
recent(PS/N64 and on)? --- Poker is living proof that men are the irrational sex. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:03:07 PM | message detail |
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Lara Croft, Solid Snake, and Master Chief are the newest characters I
could entertain as 'icons' I can think of...though Lara's really fallen
off the map nowadays. Dante would probably take her place now. And
Snake's not really 'new' at all, he was just so obscure before that
people don't think of him that way. That makes me think...if Crono himself made a resurgence in the next generation, would he be a 'new-school' icon? Granted CT is more popular than the old MG games ever were, but it's still relatively niche. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 7:08:24 PM | message detail |
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I doubt Crono would ever really obtain an "iconic" type status. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:11:54 PM | message detail |
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Well, assuming that he would...but it really would take a lot, I know.
Even Cloud isn't really an 'icon'...the face of Final Fantasy, at best,
and even then fans of the other games often take that as an insult
(remember all the whining that Cloud was in every picture on FF/Zelda?). If a renewed series of Chrono games featured Crono as the main character of all of them and they somehow raised themselves to the popularity of the FFs though, that would do it I think. BIG stretches there. o.o --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:13:59 PM | message detail |
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Crash was an icon for a while there, but that died pretty quickly too. And he never fared well on this site. As for the whole Tidus thing, I was joking more than anything, but everyone seems so ready to right off Kirby when there's not much if anything pointing to him being overrated. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:17:33 PM | message detail |
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It's probably because it seems to contradict the pecking order, not
because of anything else pointing to it. When you think of popular
Nintendo characters, people tend to think Zelda is more popular than
Kirby. I wouldn't really know what to tell you, though. Kirby's burnt me every year. I had him beating Jill in 2k2, beating Alucard in 2k3, beating Squall in 2k4, and when I finally got fed up and had him losing to Tidus in 2k5, he screws around and ends up winning. I love Kirby, but as a contest character I want to blow his frigging head off. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 7:18:19 PM | message detail |
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If a renewed series of Chrono games featured Crono as the main
character of all of them and they somehow raised themselves to the
popularity of the FFs though, that would do it I think. BIG stretches
there. Yeah. If there were a game that was that big, it'd be pretty crazy. Of course, that seems almost entirely impossible at this point, but if it happens, he'd at least be one of the most popular characters within the entire gaming community, which would probably do wonders for him here of all places. As for the whole Tidus thing, I was joking more than anything, but everyone seems so ready to right off Kirby when there's not much if anything pointing to him being overrated. The idea of Kirby being overrated never really crossed my mind when I said I would take Zelda with no problem. It's just that there's no way I can see him beating her...even before TP gets here. Zelda's nearly his equal already, and there is zero doubt about what she can do. I just feel better taking Zelda there than I do Kirby, especially when they're not far apart. The favoring, stats-wise, is Kirby, but that's where the whole overrated thing comes into play ... I'm not really sure on my feelings there either. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:18:51 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I very nearly put Kirby over Metroid...but ended up thinking
better of it at the last moment. That was the one time I didn't get
snakebit, and it was still a close call. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:21:59 PM | message detail |
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It's not like there's much doubt as to what Kirby can do though... I
see no reason for Zelda to be such a lock that it doesn't even deserve
looking into. Kirby seems to have performed better on Bowser than he
should have, which leads me to believe he would perform similarly
against other Nintendo non main characters. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2006 7:25:56 PM | message detail |
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NOTE: I just reread everything I said, and I feel like I should clarify
something: I talk alot of why I think Kirby rSFF'd Bowser, but this is
mainly about how Kirby could NOT rSFF Zelda, even if Kirby's strength
last year is legit. I'm just saying everything that needs to be said. My main case of why Kirby could have rSFF'd Bowser -- assuming it happened (which I do to a small degree, just barely enough to bother arguing with) -- is this: we know the SMB series >>> the Kirby series, we know Bowser > Kirby, we've statistically seen in 2k3 and 2k4 (by means of adjustments, granted) that Kirby's statistically a lil' stronger than Yoshi, and that Yoshi got 43.66% on Bowser in 2k3. Now, between 2k4 and 2k5, Kirby had Canvas Curse release on the DS, which is what alot of Kirby supporters give credit for his new-found strength. However, we saw the Kirby series be decimated by the Metroid series last month, and we've never seen any sign of strength for Kirby as far as PotD's and GotY-polls go: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=197 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=225 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=261 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=771 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869 Granted, most of those are old and people generally say that Kirby Super Star is his strongest game...but those polls still cannot mean well for Kirby, and I doubt that a probably-low-selling handheld game is going to make him work wonders like he did against Bowser (judge Kirby through Tidus-2k4 with an ADJUSTED Mega Man, and Kirby'll be at 29.93%...through Bowser, it's 32.06% -- Kirby-Tidus gets 46.68% on Kirby-Bowser). Canvas Curse is not that kind of break-through game... ...so let's look at the Super Smash Bros. series -- Bowser is only in SSBM, and he is hhoorrrriibbllee in that game. Kirby, meanwhile, was in both SSB and SSBM, and he's both fun and is a casual gamer's pick if my friends account for anything, heh (can't say how MUCH better he is than Bowser, but he's definitely much better in both games). So, should you believe that Kirby rSFF'ed Bowser, here's probably your best reasoning for it. Now, as for Kirby rSFF'ing Zelda for the win, let me mention afew points about why Zelda is no Bowser (not in contest-strength, but rather in being able to be rSFF'd). We saw LoZ beat FF with 50.99% while SMB got 46.76%, so we know that LoZ is a bigger force here than SMB; that doesn't necessarily mean Zelda > Bowser, but it's another thing that's not going in Kirby's favor. Kirby had no game come inbetween 2k5 and 2k6 to my knowledge either, so don't expect a boost for him that other Nintendo characters wouldn't get. Let's not forget the SSB series -- while Bowser is an embarrassment of a fighter, Zelda/Sheik is a HUGE favorite to use in that game for noobs, and she's popular for tournament play, too. Any advantage Kirby had against Bowser in that aspect is lost against Zelda -- Zelda/Sheik in SSBM is probably more liked than Kirby in both SSB and SSBM combined. Let's throw in that LoZ:TP is coming closer and closer if you believe in hype, and you have NO room for Kirby to win the intangibles, which would let Zelda win even if Kirby wasn't over-rated at all last year (which is a small stretch to me). --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:27:54 PM | message detail |
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Well I think part of the apprehensiveness comes from the fact that at
face value, Kirby 2k5 beats Kirby 2k4 (his next strongest incarnation)
with over 60% of the vote. Zelda, in contrast, 55-45's her last
appearance...and she had two years to grow in strength, one of which
was the year Link got a hefty boost. Kirby being behind Squall in 2k4 eases things a bit for some, but not for others. There are still many people out there that don't think Samus was SFFed any by Link in 2k3. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:31:01 PM | message detail |
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No one seems to have a problem with Luigi suddenly being able to 60-40
his previous years self. I don't know why Kirby can't either,
especially when like you said, he was potentially underrated in 2K4. And if you don't think Link SFF'd Samus in 2K3 you should probably stop doing drugs. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 7:31:21 PM | message detail |
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HaRRicH, you're still on that whole Kirby overperformed on Bowser
because he sucks in SSBM tip? I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt someone
actually went "I like both, but Bowser sucks in SSBM which happens to
be the only game they share together, so I'm going with Kirby!". --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 7:35:19 PM | message detail |
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No one seems to have a problem with Luigi suddenly being able to 60-40 his previous years self. People mention it from time to time...but it's funny to mention it, as Luigi is *also* behind Squall, just in 2k3. Then being behind obvious SFF in 2k4 (just like Kirby), and... Frankly, I *do* have a problem with Luigi being that strong in general, as there are people below him that I couldn't fathom taking him over...and while I still tentatively accept it, it's why I think Sonic is the most volatile Noble Nine member this year. He could go from losing to Snake to beating Crono, IMO. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:35:27 PM | message detail |
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I don't think that's what HaRR is saying at all, not that I agree with
him entirely. He's saying that Kirby is better than Bowser in SSBM, and
appears in SSB, a game which Bowser does not. It's obvious this place
is crazy for SSB, especially with it's performance in the series
contest with 2 damn games. Anyway, Kirby is a much frendlier choice
than Bowser, in terms of him being a much easier character to use and
be good with. Hell he was ridiculously good in SSB, they toned him down
in SSBM, but he's still incredibly better than Bowser. The point is
that people like Kirby because they like using him in SSB, Bowser not
so much. It's more that Kirby get's the swing votes among the people
who don't really care about Kirby or Bowser, or people who like them
both pretty equally. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 7:37:00 PM | message detail |
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it's why I think Sonic is the most volatile Noble Nine member this year. He could go from losing to Snake to beating Crono, IMO. I don't follow. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 7:38:30 PM | message detail |
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Frankly, I *do* have a problem with Luigi being that strong in
general, as there are people below him that I couldn't fathom taking
him over... Really? Just out of curiosity, who might those be? I could see myself taking Luigi over a few more people who are higher than him. The only one below him who seems rather strange at first would be Ryu. --- “I haven’t invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess].” – Shigeru Miyamoto |