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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 346

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/19/2006 11:42:19 AM | message detail
because most of the Sonic fans are just doing wishful thinking.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2006 11:43:03 AM | message detail
Yoshi vs Knuckles. go.

Knuckles (2005c) VS Yoshi (2005c)

Knuckles has a strength of 32.49.
Yoshi has a strength of 29.01.

Knuckles wins with 55.36% of the vote!
A win of 9,415 with 87,900 total votes cast.

With that said I'd still go with Yoshi. I think he is underrated in the stats because of SFF and Knuckles also has the chance to be a little overrated too. Either way I still think it will be a close match.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/19/2006 11:44:07 AM | message detail
I'm not really sure why Mega Man seems to be the target here. He did beat Sonic and put up a very decent performance against Crono, all this not mentioning his crushing of Yoshi, which helps prove no one outside the Noble Nine will be able to touch him.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 11:44:08 AM | message detail
Because they like to use meaningless occurances to suit their personal opinions.

As for Phoenix, I still think he gets in, probably at around a 6 or 7 seed. PoP isn't getting in however, and I thought this for a while now, in the nomination rally topics people were copy and pasting their nominations directly from the nomination page, and I can't being to say how many variations of his name I saw.

The Prince of Persia, Prince (PoP), Prince of Persia, The Prince, and so on.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 11:44:11 AM | message detail
I'm confused. Why are some people equating seeding with strength now?

No idea.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 8/19/2006 11:47:52 AM | message detail
Tingle of all people making it into the contest is so incredibly strange. If he couldn't get into any other character contests, which had a majority of male characters, how did he make it in now? 0_o

Well I guess every contest needs joke fodder...
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2006 11:48:22 AM | message detail
Quick don't think

4) Sam Fisher
13) Magus

>_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 11:48:36 AM | message detail
It's just Smurf. He's been on a "Mega Man is out of the Noble Nine" trip for quite some time now, and people are taking him seriously for some reason now.

I'm *really* hoping for alternating between male and female divisions, though I know it's basically for naught. But it's basically my only chance to see Mega Man/Samus, since I don't think MM is going to make up the difference against Crono.

Also, depending on TP's release, if DoC keeps atop the FAQ pages, and the bracket, I may very well have Snake getting upset this year.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 11:48:46 AM | message detail
READ THE STATS TOPIC

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 11:49:53 AM | message detail

Also, depending on TP's release, if DoC keeps atop the FAQ pages, and the bracket, I may very well have Snake getting upset this year.


We just have to wait until Oct...err, this holiday season!!

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Who Cares? | Posted 8/19/2006 11:50:12 AM | message detail
PoP isn't getting in however, and I thought this for a while now, in the nomination rally topics people were copy and pasting their nominations directly from the nomination page, and I can't being to say how many variations of his name I saw.

The Prince of Persia, Prince (PoP), Prince of Persia, The Prince, and so on.


Really? Wow, I was thinking The Prince was the one rally character we didn't have to worry about missing. Maybe Raiden or Sub-Zero can get in. Not expecting Nightmare anymore.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 11:50:21 AM | message detail
That is, if Vincent even makes it in this year. I think his seeding will tell me a lot about DoC's effect (if he's like a 6 or a 7 I won't be too impressed).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 11:51:12 AM | message detail
Wait, you're not implying TP's been delayed again, are you? *sigh*
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 11:51:43 AM | message detail
I'm implying we're going to see something sooner than later!

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 11:54:55 AM | message detail
I'm implying that HM likes his pipe a little too much.

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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 11:55:25 AM | message detail
(Truth be told, I stole that bit from IGN's little poll about Zelda. Those losers and them being clever!!)

We'll find out the exact date (late October, mates!) like a week or so after this contest starts, assuming it's on September 1st. Peachy.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 11:57:36 AM | message detail
Speaking of Peaches, Peach >>> Thunder Thighs.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 11:58:34 AM | message detail
If you think Peach is stronger than Donkey Kong, maybe!!
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Heroic Mario | Posted 8/19/2006 11:58:54 AM | message detail
Now look what you've done!!

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/19/2006 12:01:26 PM | message detail
*walks into Stats topic*

Speaking of Peaches, Peach >>> Thunder Thighs.

*walks out of Stats topic*
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 12:02:09 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong is clearly anti-voted for ever trying to capture that dear, sweet Peach. Sure you might say then why is the pigman so popular when he does the same to Zelda? Simply because no one really cares about Zelda, that's why. It's all about name recognition folks.

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 12:02:34 PM | message detail
Good, we don't like your kind here Moltar!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 12:02:59 PM | message detail
How do you explain Bowser, then?
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/19/2006 12:03:32 PM | message detail
Bowser would've beaten Sephiroth without such anti-votes, obviously.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 12:06:50 PM | message detail
How do you explain Bowser, then?

And you have the nerve to call yourself a Mario fan?! Psh-haw! Bowsers intention has obviously never been to hurt that dear delicate Peach who can rip your face off in a second if she wanted to, but she wouldn't because that's how lovely she is. Bowser is but an ugly, grotesque being who has no chance of ever actually courting Peach, so in fit of hopelessness caused by his ever-lasting love for Peach, he captures her, hoping to change her opinion of him, and making sweet love all night long. Nintendo fans can't help but feel bad for him, and thusly his strength is founded on pity votes.

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Keno316 | Posted 8/19/2006 12:10:58 PM | message detail
Simply because no one really cares about Zelda, that's why.


LIES!!!!!


And technically, DK wanted to capture Paulina.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 12:11:40 PM | message detail
Stop with your blasphemy, I don't care to hear it any longer.

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Jmast7 | Posted 8/19/2006 12:13:52 PM | message detail
Your contest gurus:

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95- FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102- SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2
116 - Read_Only_Thx
117 - KleenexTissue50
118 - daverath
119 - Mithrandir1331
120 - ScorpionX3
121 - perdevious
122 - ExquisiteSamurai
123 - Buzzup
124 - Jmast7
125 - GrapefruitKing
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 12:17:16 PM | message detail
Woah, I just realized: unless Ceej starts with the ladies, the tradition of starting with a Nintendo character is going to be broken. o_0

Don't forget that Tingle and Falcon are 8 seeds. We'd still have a chance of starting with an Nintendo character, just not one who'll actually win.

And Tingle may as well be Zelda's Midgar Zolom.

<3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/19/2006 12:21:11 PM | message detail
And no way I see Mega Man falling out of the N9. I'd still put him over Snake, and while I think Sonic has a chance to beat him this year, there's no way I would write off Mega Man. He's still got strength, seeds be damned.

<3~^\Nidoran F > Samus/^~<3
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/19/2006 1:03:33 PM | message detail
I'm going to try something while making my bracket, I shall call it the Nintendo Nine. The members of the Nintendo Nine are (in order of strength)

Link
Mario
Samus
Ganondorf
Bowser
Zelda
Yoshi
Kirby
Luigi

The Non-Noble Nine Nintendo Nine (try saying that really fast) will beat any character except for the FFVII trio. So Vincent (if he makes it in) will beat all of the guys while Tifa and Aeris will beat Zelda. Mario and Samus will beat anybody except for Cloud and Sephiroth and Link will become the contest champ. The only trouble I would expect are from Auron, Knuckles, Dante, Magus and maybe Sora, but that;s a risk I am willing to take.
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bobby200614 | Posted 8/19/2006 1:29:02 PM | message detail
How is Megaman not a 1 seed?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 1:31:31 PM | message detail
Ganondorf above Bowser is one thing (seeing as how I disagree, but it's arguable), but Yoshi over Kirby? Direct performances on Bowser contradict that, and Kirby faced a stronger Bowser.

And I don't think Nintendo is joined at the hip. If everyone gets proportional boosts, then Samus *is* above Sephiroth.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 1:32:49 PM | message detail
And if you think Luigi would beat Squall, you're nuts.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 1:35:50 PM | message detail
And I don't think Nintendo is joined at the hip. If everyone gets proportional boosts, then Samus *is* above Sephiroth.

Well she sure as hell is above Mario! Oh and Seph > Link thanks to his role in KHII.

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rpgapzx | Posted 8/19/2006 1:35:59 PM | message detail
Question: Who is most likely to win the Frog award this year? That is, who is most likely to have his pre-contest expectations make him to be viewed as a possible Noble Nine breaker, only to become a Noble Nine Doormat?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 1:39:23 PM | message detail
Vincent is the only one I could see fall into that category -- and it's hard to see that happening, thanks to DoC. Ganondorf is the only other character that has been that hyped up to be a Noble-Nine breaker, but he's got so much past contest experience under his belt that he'd be grouped more with Magus instead of Frog (for obvious reasons, too).
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/19/2006 1:40:50 PM | message detail
Other than lunatics like Steve Illumina (hi!) who in their right mind was taking Frog to break the N9?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/19/2006 1:41:03 PM | message detail
Ugh... that's a hard one, as I don't really see anyone that people are talking about potentially taking out a nobler become that weak. Does Zero count? Probably not.... but if he does, let's go with that one.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/19/2006 1:44:57 PM | message detail
And if we had to confine it to *new* characters...I'd say the only chance we'd have is if Ceej changed his mind and allowed Mega Man X (or some other N9 'clone') in. I'm sure you'd have a lot of people taking X over Snake, and he also could 'bomb'...if by 'Zero level' you mean bomb, of course.
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rpgapzx | Posted 8/19/2006 1:46:44 PM | message detail
Other than lunatics like Steve Illumina (hi!) who in their right mind was taking Frog to break the N9?

Why the 2k4 lolxstats, of course? XD
Point taken, though. You did have to stretch it big time to say Frog > Sonic or something like that. The Magus Award would go for biggest let down --> 1st round upsetage though.

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rpgapzx | Posted 8/19/2006 1:47:59 PM | message detail
Ugh... that's a hard one, as I don't really see anyone that people are talking about potentially taking out a nobler become that weak. Does Zero count? Probably not.... but if he does, let's go with that one.

Don't think Zero is underrated in 2k5? Mario's ownage of Crono didn't soften the blow enough?
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/19/2006 1:52:59 PM | message detail
Hey, for the fun of it, let's do the SQUARESOFT Nine...

1)Cloud
2)Sephiroth
3)Crono
4)Vincent Valentine
5)Squall Leonhart
6)Tifa Lockhart
7)Aeris Gainsborough
8)Auron
9)Magus (maybe an FF7 character instead?)

Hmm....a little better than I thought.

So, would anyone take Sora over Luigi if they were paired at some point?

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/19/2006 1:57:24 PM | message detail
Sora would beat Luigi this year if they met. Also, I know he's Disney on some technicality, but why isn't Sora on that list? It's clear that as far as this site is concerned he's as good as being a Square character, and it'd be better than letting Magus on the list.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:12:23 PM | message detail
Other than lunatics like Steve Illumina (hi!) who in their right mind was taking Frog to break the N9?

The same people who thought Magus could beat Sonic.
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rpgapzx | Posted 8/19/2006 2:18:55 PM | message detail
Anyone want to try to rank the entire cast of SSBM in terms of potential contest strength?

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therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:37:59 PM | message detail
Anyone want to try to rank the entire cast of SSBM in terms of potential contest strength?

Sure... why not.

Link
Young Link <_<;
Mario
Samus
Dr. Mario
Bowser
Ganondorf
Kirby
Zelda
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Fox
Sheik
Peach
Mew-Two
Falco
Captain Falcon
Marth
Roy
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Ice Climbers
Pichu
Mr. Game and Watch
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therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:39:58 PM | message detail
Actually, what the hell... Dr. Mario wouldn't make a difference at all most likely. Put him above Samus. My ranking was for indirect strength, btw.
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Keno316 | Posted 8/19/2006 2:40:28 PM | message detail
I honestly think G&W would do better than Pichu.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/19/2006 2:46:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, most likely. I did it on a whim. But yeah, most people wouldn't care about G&W. People actually hate Pichu. Pichu is last!
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