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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 345

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/18/2006 3:50:23 PM | message detail
Those two polls don't prove people like Zelda more than Ganondorf; it just proves that people like Link way more than Ganondorf. Sure, Ganondorf leeches, but I think the Zelda fanbase likes Ganondorf's 'badassness' more than Zelda's 'ninjaness' (I know I'm being silly here.) It's just instinct to me. I just can't picture the majority of the Zelda fanbase preferring the girl you rescue over the evil bad guy.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/18/2006 4:00:21 PM | message detail
In Zelda vs. Ganondorf, I see the opposite...I think the SFF occurs within the Zelda fanbase, and since Zelda relies on name-recognition for votes, she's underneath Ganondorf within her fanbase. So, Ganondorf SFFs Zelda, if anything.

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MnMZero | Posted 8/18/2006 4:15:33 PM | message detail
I would have to argue that these polls prove Zelda fans don't love their villain quite as much as FF VII fans love Sephiroth. I really don't think you can compare the two.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1750
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1776


How'd I know someone was going to bring that up. You do know that doesn't mean that Zelda fans don't care for Ganondorf right? All those polls mean is that most Ganon fans simply like Link better. It has nothing to do with how much Zelda fans like Ganon... Ganon's strength outside of that matchup is the indicator for that...
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 4:15:54 PM | message detail
Statistically, last year required Samus ~= Mario (assuming Samus didn't SFF Ganon) to make Ganon > Zelda. That's not impossible, but it's a tough stat...then head-to-head, I think we're seeing that there's a battle between Zelda and Ganon for preference as 2nd place in the LoZ series since apparently discussion has led us to believe both are leeches, so nothing's promised there...

...so let me ask this, because I'm known for bringing it up: does anybody think that SSBM would be the difference-maker in that match? Unlike Bowser (who I pick on when I mention rSFF due to SSBM), Zelda and Ganon have proven to be more of a leech than Bowser and have less reason to actually being liked besides having important roles in the most popular series here (though oftentimes that's reason enough, heh). So, perhaps it would be more likely for them to have fans solely because of SSBM since the series itself doesn't make them even comparable to Link in terms of favor...and if that is the case, Zelda would certainly have the edge, one would think (Ganon's fun though, granted)...

...also, just having the name-sake should get Zelda afew votes. Not enough to brag about, no, but every vote would count.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 4:17:33 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2019

Oh, you mean like this one? =P
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/18/2006 4:19:13 PM | message detail
Congrats to the one true perfect, mocktoid13.
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Phediuk | Posted 8/18/2006 4:31:11 PM | message detail
Final nomination tally Top 10s:

Male-

Phoenix Wright – 94
Jay Solano - 69
Prince of Persia – 66
CATS - 52
Raiden (MGS) – 50
Captain Falcon – 49
Sub-Zero – 45
Nightmare – 43
Midgar Zolom – 42
Gordon Freeman – 41

Female-

Samus Aran – 90
Princess Peach Toadstool – 83
Princess Zelda – 77
Lyndis – 72
The Boss – 62
Carmen Sandiego - 61
Nidoran F - 55
Celes Chere – 53
Tifa Lockheart – 48
Aeris Gainsborough – 48
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Redtooth | Posted 8/18/2006 4:37:11 PM | message detail
lol at Freeman making the top ten and being under both Nidoran F and Midgar Zolom =P.
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MnMZero | Posted 8/18/2006 4:37:13 PM | message detail
(assuming Samus didn't SFF Ganon)

Why are people so quick to assume this couldn't have happened now? I'd look at Samus SFFing Ganon before I look at Samus being statistically stronger than Mario.
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Kaxon | Posted 8/18/2006 4:42:10 PM | message detail
I'm amazed (in a good way) that Aeris tied Tifa in nominations.

Speaking of which, I should probably change my sig...
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 8/18/2006 5:04:36 PM | message detail
No Jay Solano ;____;

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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:04:49 PM | message detail
lol NinzeldoFAQs at tingle getting in.

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meeptroid | Posted 8/18/2006 5:05:15 PM | message detail
I wonder if Kazooie got in.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:05:27 PM | message detail
Ganon still wasn't likely SFF'd hard if he was SFF'd at all, and you still hear claims that Samus >= Mario indirectly from time to time -- not to mention that last year we actually have statistical proof of it...

...you can substitute some of Samus's strength in my lil' theories for Samus SFF'ing Ganon some if you like -- that's not a problem at all...but it's still a steep hill for Ganon to climb, is all.
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WildCherrySoul | Posted 8/18/2006 5:05:49 PM | message detail
Here's hoping Fox made it in...

*prays*
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:05:57 PM | message detail
...NIDORAN F?
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/18/2006 5:06:01 PM | message detail
1s:
Solid Snake, Sora, Sonic, Crono.
Samus, Zelda, Tifa, Yuna.

8s:
Soma, CATS, Captain Falcon, Tingle.
Roll. Carmen Sandiego, Ivy, Nidoran F.

Nidoran F got in?!?!?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:07:01 PM | message detail
TINGLE?!

PLEASE let him face Ganondorf.
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Big Bob | Posted 8/18/2006 5:07:38 PM | message detail
How the hell did Tingle get in? Even Vaati would beat him.

;_; @ Soma being an 8 seed

W00t at Sonic getting a 1 and Sora > Mega Man

Hell, CRONO got a 1!
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SonicLink15 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:07:40 PM | message detail
Sora a one seed?!
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/18/2006 5:07:53 PM | message detail
NIDORAN F!!!!!
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/18/2006 5:08:08 PM | message detail
And Sora got a 1 seed? Holy crap, KH2 power. Mega Man also getting a 2 is surprising.

1 seeds for females were beyond obvious.

Pheonix either didn't get in, or got a 6-7 seed...hmm. Also, boo Tingle. And Nightmare may not be alone.
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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:08:14 PM | message detail
I'm just psyched that Soma got in. That is totally awesome.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:08:30 PM | message detail
Sora? Hopefully he's in one of those lovely stacked divisions (Sora/Vincent/Squall/Ganondorf/Bowser type deals), and hopefully Aeris isn't in Samus' division. It'll be interesting to see where Mega Man ends up, as he could beat any of the top seeds.

And huzzah for Soma!
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Big Bob | Posted 8/18/2006 5:08:41 PM | message detail
*blinks*

Nidoran F...got...in?

*jaw drops*
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 8/18/2006 5:09:20 PM | message detail
I'm in shock. What happened to the "no generic characters" rule?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:09:26 PM | message detail
Jay easily outdid Nidoran F in the board nominations...and I can't imagine casuals picking Nidoran F...

...I think CJay's fibbing a lil', or some people nominated off of multiple accounts.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:10:12 PM | message detail
Solano and Zolom had to deal with the males, remember. Nidoran F had it easy.
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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:10:34 PM | message detail
Solid Snake, Sora, Sonic, Crono.
Samus, Zelda, Tifa, Yuna.


Soma, CATS, Captain Falcon, Tingle.
Roll. Carmen Sandiego, Ivy, Nidoran F.

let's see what would be great...

Snake vs. Tingle
Sora vs. CATS
Sonic vs. Captain Falcon
Crono vs. soma

Samus vs. Roll
Zelda vs. Ivy
Tifa vs. Nidoran F.
Yuna vs. Carmen Sandiego


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Jmast7 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:11:00 PM | message detail
I'm a bit surprised Peach didn't get a #1...
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ChaoChaoSuperqq | Posted 8/18/2006 5:11:23 PM | message detail
This is Part 345! When did it start? And is the bracket up yet?
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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:11:28 PM | message detail
Solano and Zolom had to deal with the males, remember. Nidoran F had it easy.

This man speaks the truth. Nidoran F had tons of fodder to deal with.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:11:42 PM | message detail
Hey, let's give Captain Falcon to Solid Snake, then we can call it SFF when he bombs!
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:12:30 PM | message detail
Sonic vs. Captain Falcon

SPEED SFF BAH
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:13:08 PM | message detail
I was talking about the Nomination Tally topic, unless lots of accounts didn't participate in it and nominated Nidoran F.
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ChaoChaoSuperqq | Posted 8/18/2006 5:14:06 PM | message detail
So there have been 344 parts before this!?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:14:36 PM | message detail
Dude, whatever -- run-speed and car-speed are two totally different kinds of speeds !!
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/18/2006 5:14:38 PM | message detail
Wow, I figured Sora had a shot at an one seed, but I never thought he'd take it from Mega Man. Nice to see Crono finally get a one though.

Also nice to see Yuna get a #1 seed, which means Aeris will be a #2 in either Zelda or Tifa's division.
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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:15:04 PM | message detail
Oh, and if sonic and megaman are not in the same division, Sonic could make the male bracket finals FTW
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:15:49 PM | message detail
Ya know, I'd actually like to see Aeris/Yuna just to see if Yuna could keep from being SFF'd, then let her face Zelda/Tifa (don't care which one) before Samus.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:16:23 PM | message detail
Even if Mega Man's in his division, I'm taking Sonic this year.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/18/2006 5:17:23 PM | message detail
I'm definitely taking Sonic this year over Mega Man. I know it's absolutely no evidence at all but Mega Man missing a 1 seed is telling my gut to pick Sonic.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:17:33 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: There will be a Gauntlet of Champions this year for the winner of the bracket to start off with.
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KingBartz | Posted 8/18/2006 5:17:47 PM | message detail
Well, I take sonic every year out of fanboyism... But THIS YEAR HE'LL HAVE A CHANCE!

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:18:21 PM | message detail
Peach and Aeris will probably get 2-seeds. I'm disappointed that Soma Cruz only got an 8-seed...if we're lucky maybe he can be bumped up a couple seeds, so he could have a chance.

If Toadette isn't among the 7-seeds I think it's safe to say she didn't make it.

TINGLE?!

PLEASE let him face Ganondorf.

Indeed...he should've been against Link, but we might as well make the blowout as large as possible. I'll take Ganondorf with 93% over Tingle.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:18:52 PM | message detail
Sonic's boost from last year that very well could continue on to this year, Mega Man not getting the one-seed, and Sonic > both Mega Man and MMX in the Series Contest -- on top of it being a close-ass match last year anyway -- has me taking Sonic this time.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:22:48 PM | message detail
As a side-note, I hope he used some matches from the Four-Pack Of Fun board -- I know he's aware of the board for sure this contest, and I'm tempted to think he saw it last contest because of Mega Man/Mario Kart (but I'm not going to flatter myself like that yet).
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/18/2006 5:23:16 PM | message detail
From HaRRicH Posted 8/18/2006 7:09:26 PM #277
Jay easily outdid Nidoran F in the board nominations...and I can't imagine casuals picking Nidoran F...

...I think CJay's fibbing a lil', or some people nominated off of multiple accounts.


LL was in Pokélinks when nominations first went up, and a lot of them nominated Nidoran F.

...I can't believe those jokes are actually making a contest. Hopefully Knuckles, Tidus, Vincent, Ganondorf, and others avoided the Snubhammer.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 5:23:39 PM | message detail
There's no way Toadette makes it when Captain Falcon was an 8-seed.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/18/2006 5:24:02 PM | message detail
If we get a Peach/Chun-Li setup in the second round, I'm 100% convinced Ceej reads the stats topic! :P
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