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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/17/2006 5:17:32 PM | message detail

Well, after this long, Ceej has had enough time to sort through nominations. Hopefully, we can get a bracket quickly.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow

therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2006 5:18:38 PM | message detail

I meant "as bad" as 83-85% rather than near 88%. He still rips Ganon a new one of course. I was just saying that I think there was more than just Link owning Ganon in that matchup. I know the trailer was all I could think about when I looked at the pic, and I know I'm not the only one.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC

THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/17/2006 5:19:55 PM | message detail

No, it'd still be 85% at the very least. Ganon doesn't escape that much.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow

Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2006 6:05:26 PM | message detail

I found a reason to participate in the Guru Challenge. But, man, do I hate these massive pastes. We need a better method.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95- FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102- SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2006 7:57:20 PM | message detail

As a matter of fact, since I'm in that sort of mood, I'll list the characters who have only lost to the Noble Nine (with a minimum of two appearances):

The Noble Nine (duh)
Fox McCloud
Bowser
Aeris Gainsborough
Zero
Ken Masters
Princess Zelda
Frog

Out of those, Ken is the only one who never won a match. Kinda weird.

(Edit: I see rpgapzx beat me to it...and with style, no less)

And while I'm at it, the characters who have never even faced a Noble Niner (minimum of two appearances):

Luigi
Ratchet
Miles "Tails" Prower
Pac-Man
Bomberman
Kirby
Gordon Freeman
Yuna
Ryo Hazuki
Guybrush Threepwood
Laharl
Ryu Hayabusa
Revolver Ocelot
Albert Wesker
Luca Blight

Out of those, Pac-Man, Kirby, and Gordon are the only three to make it every contest -- they need to buck up and stop hiding from the elites, heh. Also, out of those, Kirby has won the most matches...he's earned the right to face a Noble Nine member this year...

...in the Final Four.

I completely agree. Zelda beating Ganon has never once even crossed my mind, even through all the debate. Ganon is always going to be that second Zelda character in strength.

For what it's worth, assuming Samus is as strong as Mario, Ganon barely outdoes Zelda in the stats. While we already know that Link would do unto Zelda an SFF-beating like we haven't seen since Link/Ganon, I think the battle of favor between Zelda and Ganon as far as LoZ fans go is more debated than given credit for.

Man the stats topic has gone to hell in my short absence! Dante takes out Zero without even breaking a sweat! You know it to be true, don't even bother arguing, you're only be fighting yourself anyway.

Talking about crazy bull**** that involves EC (ha!), I bought all three PoP games for the Xbox today for $50, plus got Need For Speed: Underground with my purchase for free today. I'm actually well-behind on my gaming backlog though and college/moving into my apartment comes up next week...so, yeah, might be awhile, heh.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....

LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/17/2006 9:01:00 PM | message detail

It's Friday and nominations are still open, Ceej!

...Unless he's considering closing them at midnight PST. Bleh.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

Who Cares? | Posted 8/17/2006 9:06:30 PM | message detail

I think that's the case...booooo! And I was hoping I'd be awake for the bracket release! :(
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane

Lopen | Posted 8/17/2006 9:08:43 PM | message detail

Haw haw, Leonhart, your "bold prediction" failed!
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.

Slowflake | Posted 8/17/2006 9:15:55 PM | message detail

Dang it, and I expected to know whether I'd stay on this board or not when I came back from work. That's CJayC for ya.

[does Sonic's I'M WAAAAAAAITIIIIIIIING taunt from AoStH]
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/17/2006 9:22:35 PM | message detail

OK, I can't resist any longer. I'll bite.

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95- FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102- SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2
116 - Read_Only_Thx

<3~^\Paper Mario > Final Fantasy/^~<3
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/17/2006 9:23:20 PM | message detail

Haw haw, Leonhart, your "bold prediction" failed!

It's still Thursday somewhere, including where YOU are. I still have hope!
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

cyko | Posted 8/17/2006 9:24:25 PM | message detail

i wish i had a bracket to analyze so i could contribute something semi-meaningful to the topic again..... >_<

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i have officially been Z1mZum'D in the guru contest.
if you won't nominate Bahamut, then nominate Jeane from Suikoden!

plasmabeam | Posted 8/17/2006 9:25:11 PM | message detail

It's a shame that only 12% of the site could acknowledge Ganondorf as a better character than Link. Sure, you play as Link, but Ganondorf is inarguably a far better character.

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Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man
~Jacksonville Jaguars~

plasmabeam | Posted 8/17/2006 9:26:31 PM | message detail

From: cyko | Posted: 8/17/2006 10:24:25 PM | Message Detail
i wish i had a bracket to analyze so i could contribute something semi-meaningful to the topic again..... >_<

For fun... Bowser, Squall, and Ganondorf in the same 4-pack. Your thoughts?

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Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man
~Jacksonville Jaguars~

Lopen | Posted 8/17/2006 9:26:54 PM | message detail

Only I can abuse time zones! You've failed!

And I can't believe some people were expecting an immediate bracket. I'm thinking Monday, myself...
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.

LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/17/2006 9:26:55 PM | message detail

Squall > Bowser > Ganondorf!
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

Who Cares? | Posted 8/17/2006 9:31:41 PM | message detail

And I can't believe some people were expecting an immediate bracket. I'm thinking Monday, myself...

Well, like I said earlier, the 2k4 bracket went up surprisingly quick, nothing wrong in hoping he'll be just as quick with this one.
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane

Lopen | Posted 8/17/2006 9:34:12 PM | message detail

Sorry for making you repeat yourself, but just how quickly did it go up?
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.

plasmabeam | Posted 8/17/2006 9:34:31 PM | message detail

From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 8/17/2006 10:26:55 PM | Message Detail
Squall > Bowser > Ganondorf!

Care to explain? I think although Ganon performed better on Sephiroth than Bowser did, Bowser would win in a Mario/Samus type situation. I would take Squall over Ganon with little hesitation, but Bowser... hmm. Just how much will KH2 affect Squall? I'm waiting for a pricedrop, so I don't know how big Squall's KH2 role was.

Either way, I think I'd go with Bowser over Squall, just because of the whole NintendoFAQs thing. However, I can't just go that easily... Bowser overperformed on Snake, and Squall had a more impressive match with Kirby.

*Brain fries*

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Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man
~Jacksonville Jaguars~

LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/17/2006 9:35:23 PM | message detail

Squall doesn't need that much to beat Bowser, really.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

plasmabeam | Posted 8/17/2006 9:35:26 PM | message detail

the 2k4 bracket went up surprisingly quick

Take your time... please no 2K4ish mess.

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Wind Waker was as easy as a drunken hooker, I'll give you that. - ugly man
~Jacksonville Jaguars~

Who Cares? | Posted 8/17/2006 9:36:52 PM | message detail

It was released on the same day, I remember that much. I think it was about two hours after closing.
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane

LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/17/2006 9:37:56 PM | message detail

Ceej has had...what, three weeks for nominations? Surely he's had an idea of who was going to be in the contest by now, so...I don't know that he needs to take THAT long with it.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

transience | Posted 8/17/2006 9:40:10 PM | message detail

heh, the two fast brackets (2k4 and series) were arguably the two worst brackets.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2006 9:50:50 PM | message detail

Yeah, so CJay, if you need a quick bracket that's GOOD, just take lots of advice from the Four-Pack Of Fun board!
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....

HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2006 10:46:52 PM | message detail

FYI, I put up three brackets in the Nomination Tally topic -- two 32-character brackets for each gender, then a 64-character mixed bracket. Check it out if you like.
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Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest.
It still hurts to be rear-ended like that.....

Heroic Mario | Posted 8/17/2006 10:49:04 PM | message detail

For fun... Bowser, Squall, and Ganondorf in the same 4-pack. Your thoughts?

That's a might ugly looking four pack. Bowser/Squall would be brutal, I think, but I see Squall over Ganon in a Magus-type situation...as long as it's before the Wii comes out.

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/18/2006 5:12:57 AM | message detail

Noms are still up, huh?

So... CATS or Phoenix Wright?

<3~^\Paper Mario > Final Fantasy/^~<3
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Phediuk | Posted 8/18/2006 6:12:45 AM | message detail

CATS. Phoenix Wright will be bottom-of-the-barrel fodder.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

therealmnm | Posted 8/18/2006 6:27:48 AM | message detail

Bowser > Ganondorf > Squall

Although Squall would be closer on Bowser than Ganondorf. If Ganondorf didn't beat Auron 54-46, I would have taken Squall easily. Squall is most likely a bit stronger than Auron, but at least it showed that Ganondorf can actually stand up to a quality opponent like Squall. And once you get that close in strength, stats go out the window...
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC

Kaxon | Posted 8/18/2006 6:50:18 AM | message detail

I would take Squall of Ganon with no regrets - and I guaran-freaking-tee that Squall would beat Auron. Squall went nearly even with Vincent, the fan favorite from FF VII - and there should be no doubt in your mind that fan favorite from FF VII > fan favorite from FF X.
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Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats!
Nominate Aeris for SC2k6

therealmnm | Posted 8/18/2006 6:53:26 AM | message detail

When did I say Squall wouldn't beat Auron? I did say that Squall is a bit stronger, although the gap isn't nearly as big as the stats show since both Ganon and Auron are underrated. And I said nothing of a direct matchup between Squall and Auron. I just said that Ganon/Auron showed that Ganon can actually handle a quality opponent.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC

MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/18/2006 6:54:22 AM | message detail

I don't know what you mean by fan favorite if Auron is the strongest from FFX and Vincent is only third/fourth strongest from FFVII.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/18/2006 6:56:41 AM | message detail

and Ganondorf beat Auron a bit worse than Squall beat Knuckles. I'm inclined to choose Ganondorf.
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“Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me

Kaxon | Posted 8/18/2006 6:56:59 AM | message detail

You didn't say Auron would beat him, but you made it sound like you think they're pretty close. I think Squall is comfortably a step above Auron, directly or indirectly.
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Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats!
Nominate Aeris for SC2k6

therealmnm | Posted 8/18/2006 7:28:38 AM | message detail

Well then we simply have to disagree. Squall may be stronger, but I wouldn't put him a step above Auron. They are certainly in the same class.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/18/2006 7:33:14 AM | message detail

Almost missed this...

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95- FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102- SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2
116 - Read_Only_Thx
117 - KleenexTissue50
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daverath | Posted 8/18/2006 7:38:27 AM | message detail

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41 - Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59 - Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68 - longbladeofhiko
69 - Dekar TKB
70 - spikevegeta
71 - Azp2k32
72 - Ori
73 - CountCrazy007
74 - Lopen
75 - Chinballz
76 - Soniclink15
77 - ccbfan
78 - Fett0001
79 - Dark115
80 - Dilated Chemist
81 - Steve Illumina
82 - outsider920
83 - ExThaNemesis
84 - HeroicGammaRay
85 - RPGuy96
86 - Pathetique
87 - SonicRaptor
88 - swirldude
89 - TheRye
90 - Steinershocker
91 - XIII is sexy
92 - Smurf
93 - freac
94 - Redtooth
95- FastFalcon05
96 - Rufus Shinra 18
97 - _Harmonica_
98 - Nintendo Wiii
99 - Tjian
100 - Sephirot1
101 - plasmabeam
102- SephirothG
103 - Tai
104 - WHAT THE CRUNK ED BELLIS
105 - King Morgoth
106 - dragoontheguy
107 - outback
108 - Dunkeroo23
109 - canadiancatcher
110 - stingers135
111 - Tidus My Boy
112 - Guess how many Teens
113 - Prometheus321
114 - BeTheMan
115 - Haste2
116 - Read_Only_Thx
117 - KleenexTissue50
118 - daverath

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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/18/2006 8:15:13 AM | message detail

Talking about crazy bull**** that involves EC (ha!), I bought all three PoP games for the Xbox today for $50, plus got Need For Speed: Underground with my purchase for free today. I'm actually well-behind on my gaming backlog though and college/moving into my apartment comes up next week...so, yeah, might be awhile, heh.

A great purchase I must say! So long as you play them on the original XBox and not that haphazard contraption known as the 360!

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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/18/2006 9:17:46 AM | message detail

I don't foresee Squall struggling to beat Auron myself. He can certainly manage 55% on him, I think.

But nominations are still up? How disappointing.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/18/2006 9:20:09 AM | message detail

Hmmm...I was just looking at something...

Zelda/Auron: Who wins?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/18/2006 9:23:03 AM | message detail

I would take Zelda without even worring about it. My hate for Auron drives me to it >_>

I say Zelda with 57%, didn't Vivi and Auron preformed similar against Sephy in 2004?

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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/18/2006 9:26:29 AM | message detail

didn't Vivi and Auron preformed similar against Sephy in 2004?

Vivi got 29.75% and Auron got 32.30% on Sephiroth. Based on that, Auron would get 53.95% on Vivi. Of course, that's assuming they got SFF'd proportionally or not at all.

And honestly, looking at their 2004 and 2005 numbers, it would seem that SFF was minimal, if not non-existent, at least for Vivi. You can make an argument that Auron is underrated.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/18/2006 9:28:05 AM | message detail

Speaking of which, despite all of this talk that Auron has been behind some form of SFF in all three years of his contest experience, his statistical values are very close together. Each year is slightly stronger than the one before, for what it's worth.
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Mithrandir1331 | Posted 8/18/2006 9:45:40 AM | message detail

HaRRicH | Posted 8/18/2006 9:52:04 AM | message detail

Zelda/Auron: Who wins?

You have to assume Samus = Mario in order for Ganon to statistically be stronger than Zelda...and there's no way Zelda isn't within 4% of wherever Ganon's at. The only thing that scares me about it is Auron's since had KH2...but even then, I'll take Zelda.
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BeTheMan | Posted 8/18/2006 10:22:33 AM | message detail

It's hard trying to gauge Auron's strength...but as far as cross-contest comparisons go, I think that the 2k3 Knuckles/Yuna match (Knuckles won w/ 55.32%) is somewhat useful. Since Knuckles and Yuna both seem to have boosted since 2003, there's a good chance that a match between the two of them would have gone similarly last year.

If we're willing to assume that much, then:

Yuna = 44.68% on Knuckles
Yuna = 42.27% on Auron (through Ganondorf)

Knuckles = 47.30% on Auron
Knuckles = 46.20% on Squall

Auron = 48.84% on Squall (through Knuckles)
Auron = 45.90% on Ganondorf

Which would make Squall worth roughly 47% on Ganondorf as of last year. Even with a KH2 boost, I don't think Squall has enough to take down Ganondorf or Bowser...or maybe even Zelda.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/18/2006 10:27:11 AM | message detail

Auron did about as well against Tails and Scorpion as Squall did against Bomberman...I think we could say that Bomberman is about the same level as Tails or Scorpion. Granted, Bomberman had a big picture advantage, getting ready to toss a bomb at Squall... I think I'll say Ganondorf > Squall > Auron...but that was last year. Auron has KHII...he might be able to take on even Ganondorf now, especially with a good picture. Honestly, I'm suspicious with Auron and pic-factor since his design is so appealing, though maybe I'm wrong... I think there's a decent amount of voters who've never heard of Auron that will vote for that full-body pic holding that huge sword.

Yeah, I mentioned pic-factor twice, but I think it's hard to deny that pictures have affected Bomberman's performances, unless you think Alucard =/= Squall at any time from 2K3 and on. Bomberman was shiny and pink when he faced Alucard...

Auron would beat Zelda now, I bet. Post-(or even a few days before) TP, that might be a different story. I think Ganondorf's above Zelda by more than a miniscule amount, and KHII should cover for Auron.

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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/18/2006 11:23:46 AM | message detail

The only reason I mentioned Zelda/Auron is because I was looking at their performances on Snake and Ganondorf, and they were near equal. I had forgotten about KHII though, so that messes things up a bit.
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ScorpionX3 | Posted 8/18/2006 11:26:09 AM | message detail

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