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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 344
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| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/10/2006 7:35:43 PM | message detail |
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IT'S NOTHING LIKE THAT, ACTUALLY! BECAUSE SQUALL PROBABLY DIDN'T! --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| BeTheMan | Posted 8/10/2006 7:37:08 PM | message detail |
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MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED. I THANK YOU BOTH. --- ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO Z1mZum FOR ROCKING THE GURU WORLD |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/10/2006 7:38:16 PM | message detail |
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I CAN SEE CLEEEARLY NOW THAT THE SFF IS GOOOONE --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2006 7:40:02 PM | message detail |
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I CAN SEE ALL OBSTACLES IN MY X-STATS... ...okay, I'm done. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/10/2006 7:41:16 PM | message detail |
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I ENJOY TALKING IN ALL CAPS! I'M DOING IT IN TRIBUTE TO NORG'S PERFECT BRACKET! --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/10/2006 7:42:33 PM | message detail |
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I LIKE BOLDED CAPS BETTER --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2006 7:48:07 PM | message detail |
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There needs to be tags for my obvious fanboyism of ice-caps, but this is the closest I can get. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/10/2006 10:40:12 PM | message detail |
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<insert "I'm back!" message here> I must say...it was worth leaving for a while. So, while we're discussing pic factor...I hope we can agree on one thing: pictures are more likely to affect game series than individual games, at least in certain cases. I think the reason is obvious, but if you don't understand...an FF series picture with Cloud on it would remind people strongly of FF7. an FF series picture with...Yuna on it would remind people strongly of FFX-2. Yet, I I think many series(') would give people the exact same impression regardless of the picture, especially if basically the same characters are used in all the games. I don't think many matches were affected by pic factor. Here's an interesting way of judging MGS's strength using closely-related matches and without using matches against FF7... -MGS went 50/50 with FFT -MGS2 received 43% against SSBM, which beat FFX with 51% (ignoring pic-factor). I think we can agree FFX > FFT, even if it's by less than the normal x-stats indicate. I think MGS would be lucky to have been stronger than MGS2 by even a small margin at that time, so I don't think they were horribly off from each other. That being a couple years ago, of course. As for Xenogears, I think it could do much better than most of us originally anticipated before SC2K6. Pokemon kinda shined this past contest...granted, RBY is probably significantly stronger than GSC (I could be wrong). --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/10/2006 10:45:40 PM | message detail |
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I think MGS would be lucky to have been stronger than MGS2 by even a small margin at that time, Then kindly don't. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2006 10:49:53 PM | message detail |
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Thing is, there's still plenty of room between FFX and MGS2, and if the
Top 100 List is a sign of anything, FFT is closer to FFX than MGS is to
MGS2. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/10/2006 10:52:24 PM | message detail |
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It doesn't seem like the Top 100 is a sign of much. --- The Summer 2006 Guru Contest: Where Z1mZum kicked my ass. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2006 11:09:28 PM | message detail |
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It's a sign of more than what people give it credit for -- apparently,
people would rather dispute the list than the general point I'm making. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/11/2006 12:52:21 AM | message detail |
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<insert "I'm back!" message here> Glad you're back! --- Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats! Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2006 1:04:17 AM | message detail |
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Which game based around a real person would do the best in a Games
Contest? The strongest I can think of would be 50 Cent: Bulletproof, or
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, but Shaq Fu might be a nice choice for
the upset. Is there anything else that could mount a good challenge? --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| DomaDragoon | Posted 8/11/2006 1:11:23 AM | message detail |
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Which game based around a real person would do the best in a Games Contest? Hmm... would any of the Tony Hawk games count? --- Congratulations to Z1mZum, Guru Champion! www.rpgdl.com - Because everybody loves violent arena battles, right? |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2006 1:32:58 AM | message detail |
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Well, I was thinking that sports games were a whole different category,
so not really. Since the game's not really based on that person, it's a
whole bunch of people, ya know? --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/11/2006 1:55:20 AM | message detail |
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"Which game based around a real person would do the best in a Games Contest?" Dynasty Warriors. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/11/2006 1:57:46 AM | message detail |
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Oh, a singular real person. They'd all suck too much to matter. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/11/2006 6:31:05 AM | message detail |
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XIII vs. Yuri Hyuga Who wins? >_> (Oh come on, it's obvious XIII is never gonna make a contest and I just want some assurance of his strength) Oh, and does anybody have the link to the series contest final stats? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/11/2006 6:34:17 AM | message detail |
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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (or some variation thereof) has to be it. NO
WAY does something like Bulletproof do anything, that's likely worse
than Madden level. Shaq Fu has the fad here going for it, but not much
else...although that might be enough given how weak any of these games
would be. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/11/2006 6:36:47 AM | message detail |
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3 got the 10 at Gamespot, it would be easily the best. ... ... ... >_> --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/11/2006 6:37:56 AM | message detail |
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I'm not convinced Yuri is even as high as he looks in the adjusted
stats (yeah Samus, I'm doubting you after what I saw Shadow Hearts do
in the Series Contest). XIII probably has more playership here (though
it would hardly matter), his name is the name of his game, and while it
happens to be an FPS v. RPG setting, Shadow Hearts is just too obscure
to matter...I think. I'd take XIII just because I know Yuri is trash, but I wouldn't be completely happy about it. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/11/2006 6:40:10 AM | message detail |
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It's a sign of more than what people give it credit for --
apparently, people would rather dispute the list than the general point
I'm making. Because the general point has to do with the list in question. And what exactly is it a sign of? Only things that we knew already, and it's been completely off on other things. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/11/2006 6:51:23 AM | message detail |
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I'm not convinced Yuri is even as high as he looks in the adjusted
stats (yeah Samus, I'm doubting you after what I saw Shadow Hearts do
in the Series Contest). I question how valid the results of extreme blowouts are for extrapolation. Minor factors like anti-votes, pic factor, or small amounts of SFF matter more when someone's only getting 10% of the vote. --- Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats! Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/11/2006 7:29:58 AM | message detail |
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I question how valid the results of extreme blowouts are for
extrapolation. Minor factors like anti-votes, pic factor, or small
amounts of SFF matter more when someone's only getting 10% of the vote. Exactly. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/11/2006 9:27:17 AM | message detail |
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Yup...remember how FF was supposed to beat LoZ after Round 1 since Diablo must be able to beat Civilization by more than 64%? Oh, and what is the matter with MGS2 at one time being stronger than MGS by 1%...? Well, I'd take MGS over MGS2 in a direct match no matter what year. This reminds of how people claim that Mario has to be barely above Samus in raw strength, while Samus can't be a touch above Mario. We all agree than Samus would've lost to Mario in 2K4, right? It's all about even a small amount of variance, which is silly to say there can't be any. Maybe this has been discussed before, but what's everyone's expectations on Samus in this upcoming contest, anyway? I really do wonder if Samus has gotten weaker since 2K4...it feels like it could be, though it would make no sense, considering we've had a few Metroid games since then. If she's retained her popularity, the contest should be almost a lock for Samus. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/11/2006 10:11:46 AM | message detail |
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MGS: MGS2 is not a Mario/Samus situation. It's a Mario/Bowser situation. Thinking that MGS2 was ever, even for a second,
on the level of the original MGS is absurd. The vast majority of people
that I have seen even entertain the idea don't like the MGS games to
begin with (and thus have no concept of how the fanbase works). MGS2 is hated and reviled by so much of the original fanbase that it's almost funny. It's the reason why MGS3 had such a lackluster start in sales. If anything, the game probably does better the more time goes on thanks to the hate dying down. Of course, that hate doesn't stop the actual game from having decent strength, but neither would the hate Chrono Cross recieves, I imagine. And -- guess what? -- the only people who would entertain CC > CT have no grasp of the fanbase. And no, that would not change if we turned the clock back a few years. C'mon, people. MGS2 > MGS has never made sense. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/11/2006 10:12:52 AM | message detail |
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Funny, then, how Ulti was piping MGS2 > MGS all along during the
game contest, and MGS' seppuku against FF7 gave him such bragging
rights. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/11/2006 10:15:11 AM | message detail |
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And MGS2 wasn't '1%' above MGS in the SpC2k4 X-Stats. It was more like 4%. That's not trivial. That's a 55-45 loss. About the same as Mario/Samus, to be fair, but I've never trusted either of their SC2k4 stats. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/11/2006 10:31:58 AM | message detail |
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People only hate MGS2 because they can't handle the awesomeness of Raiden. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=22242738 Sign plz Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Z1m Zum, Z1m Zum...our guru champ. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/11/2006 12:52:12 PM | message detail |
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"I think MGS would be lucky to have been stronger than MGS2 by even a small margin at that time," Then kindly don't. OHHHHH BURRRRRRRRRRN --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2006 1:12:08 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/197909.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/913941.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid Proof that MGS2 is a better game than MGS1. >_> I really do like MGS2 better than MGS1 though, and so do many others. Cartwheels > All. --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/11/2006 1:14:22 PM | message detail |
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I really do like MGS2 better than MGS1 though, and so do many others Well, yeah, it's not like MGS would get 100% of the votes. There's just little doubt it's more favored. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/11/2006 1:15:10 PM | message detail |
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If MGS faced off against MGS2, I would expect a quadding. Not to say
MGS2 is that much weaker than MGS, but to think MGS2 is more popular
than MGS even indirectly is insane. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/11/2006 1:15:40 PM | message detail |
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I'd have Jay Solano doubling Yuri, for Christ's sake. All he needs is a decent pic and Yuri's ****ed. Now, where the hell's the bracket? --- Nominate Nidoran F. |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/11/2006 1:28:12 PM | message detail |
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Yay for 16 days and no bracket. How long did it take last time? --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/11/2006 1:29:03 PM | message detail |
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Like a month. Anyway, I really thought we'd see bracket a lot sooner
than now, it seemed Ceej had a rush on the contest what with putting up
noms before the damn contest even finished. lol me --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 8/11/2006 2:18:14 PM | message detail |
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I felt like being very pessimistic and predicted the bracket would come out in early September. I better be wrong. --- Z1mZum is a better Guru than me and Mel Gibson combined. |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/11/2006 2:19:56 PM | message detail |
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If so, the contest would be pretty much guaranteed to run during the Wii's launch. That would be both hilarious and awesome. <3~^\Pokemon > Metal Gear/^~<3 --- Hello, sig. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/11/2006 3:57:25 PM | message detail |
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I'll offer a sig bet with somebody that the contest will start after
September 1st (I expect it to start October 1st, in fact). Hey, it's
worth it. If I lose, the contest starts earlier than I expected, which
is what I want. If I win, I get to control somebody's sig. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| Knux_D_Echidna | Posted 8/11/2006 4:07:41 PM | message detail |
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Maybe this has been discussed before, but what's everyone's
expectations on Samus in this upcoming contest, anyway? I really do
wonder if Samus has gotten weaker since 2K4...it feels like it could
be, though it would make no sense, considering we've had a few Metroid
games since then. If she's retained her popularity, the contest should
be almost a lock for Samus. One SFF match against Mario isn't going to all of a sudden make me question Samus. She beat down Frog, and handled Ganon like she was supposed to. Her strength should never be in question. The only thing that has been in question is her SFF ability. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/11/2006 4:27:19 PM | message detail |
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October 1st? There's no way we should have to wait THAT long. I expect the bracket shortly after CJayC returns from his "holiday." --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/11/2006 4:46:31 PM | message detail |
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I'm glad to see that others still have faith in Samus. While I mentioned a sig bet, I might also offer a sig bet with someone that the Noble Nine will be undefeated yet again (excluding matches within themselves)...reason being I really want somebody from the Noble Nine to lose. Pokemon RBY vs. Metroid on NES: what wins? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, Z1mZum drinks punch and eats CAKE! ..I think." |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/11/2006 4:50:36 PM | message detail |
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rby --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/11/2006 4:52:18 PM | message detail |
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I expect the bracket shortly after CJayC returns from his "holiday." You and me both. Though the Contest still better start on Sept. 1st (or around then). And Samus is still a Top 5 competitor, yo! And Pokemon RBY > Metroid --- Moltar Status: Currently the property of the true Master, Z1mZum Final July '06 Contest Score: 62 (Boo) |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2006 5:48:50 PM | message detail |
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How long did it take to get the bracket in 2k5? I remember it being a
long nomination period, but I can't remember quite how long. --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/11/2006 5:49:46 PM | message detail |
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The nomination period wasn't that long. Maybe 5 days or something like
that. Ceej was pretty quick about getting the bracket and the contest
started. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Who Cares? | Posted 8/11/2006 5:53:02 PM | message detail |
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iirc the nominations were just a couple weeks in 2k5, but we had to wait a couple more weeks for the bracket to be released. And I think will be getting a mid-September start since he usually gives us a month for predictions. Either the 11th or 18th --- Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/11/2006 6:06:50 PM | message detail |
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I wonder if the only reason Ceej opened nominations during the last
contest was so he could post that link on the poll results page. Personally, I would be quite happy if the contest didn't start until October 1, but I doubt we'll have to wait that long. Mid September seems likely, and September 1 still wouldn't surprise me (but he'd have to have the bracket out early next week). --- Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats! Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/11/2006 6:43:13 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon RBY vs. Metroid on NES: what wins? Pokémon is a series that runs mostly on nostalgia. Vastly superior games are shunned just because they're newer. RBY wins with little trouble, since it's where the franchise somehow draws most of its popularity from. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |