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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 344
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/8/2006 6:33:12 AM | message detail |
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I do love the whole 'Noble Nine' mentality, though. "Yeah, I'd take
Vincent over Bowser, real easy...but take him over SNAKE??? Man, F
that, are you insane or something?!?!" --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/8/2006 6:40:11 AM | message detail |
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Sorry that it's the most tried and true theory in this contest. Second being GFNW. Also, I wouldn't take Vincent over Bowser. --- 4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/8/2006 6:45:36 AM | message detail |
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I support Vincent being the biggest non-Noble threat to Snake,
honestly. FFVII/MGS SFF has proven to be rather severe, and I really
can't see anything FFVII getting SFFed by anything other than FFVII.
Vincent ain't getting on Snake's level indirectly in my mind, but
looking at it from a perspective of rSFF, that match becomes a lot more
interesting in my mind. Heh, the opposite of what I was thinking :d I know I'm in the minority with that though. Whatever works, right? At the end of the day, we can all agree that Vincent is a potential noble nine upsetter. I do love the whole 'Noble Nine' mentality, though. "Yeah, I'd take Vincent over Bowser, real easy...but take him over SNAKE??? Man, F that, are you insane or something?!?!" To be fair, the super crappy pic accounts for some Bowser overratedness, but yeah, in general, the "noble nine" thing is overrated. --- Nominate Vincent Valentine for the character battle! |
| PIHB | Posted 8/8/2006 6:47:54 AM | message detail |
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When has a Noble 9 character ever lost to a non-Noble 9 character? ~Shake --- 'The witness! The witness is escaping! Or suiciding!' 'Either way, after him! ~Aeon Azuran |
| CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/8/2006 6:49:39 AM | message detail |
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There we go. --- 4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/8/2006 6:50:13 AM | message detail |
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I'm not referring to you specifically, it's more of a general
statement...Vincent over Bowser has been the big discussion over the
last topic or two, and yet you would think the discussion would focus
on the man who has been the glaring weak link of the Noble Nine since
the beginning of these contests. The upset would be much bigger, the
arguments much more concrete ("even if Vincent rSFFed Crono, what's to
stop him from rSFFing Vincent?!").The reason, of course, is that people
think Vincent > Bowser is far more reasonable than Vincent >
Snake thanks to NNNL (Noble Nine Never Loses!). Meh, Noble Nine seems like it's going to endure forever anyway, even if Snake ends up losing this year. The boost from MGS4 and SSBB will likely make such a loss placed into the same status as Mario > Cloud. As in, "never happening again" status. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/8/2006 6:53:57 AM | message detail |
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("even if Vincent rSFFed Crono, what's to stop him from rSFFing Vincent?!") Snake, Snake, Snake, I meant SNAKE dammit dammit dammit what's wrong with me ARGH --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 8/8/2006 6:55:48 AM | message detail |
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Last year, we were all predicting everyone to break the Noble Nine,
with Tifa over Sonic, Vincent over Crono, and anyone in his division it
seemed over Snake, and we were burned too badly to try it again. The
Noble Nine has a better record than even Clinkeroth! --- Z1mZum easily beat me with his superior skills. Nominate Magus and Crono! |
| CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/8/2006 6:57:55 AM | message detail |
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I agree that Snake is probably the weakest right at this moment, but in
the long term Crono is most likely to be the first to fall, IMO. We'll
see if he's any weaker in this contest. --- 4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2006 6:59:09 AM | message detail |
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of course it has a better record.. it's 9 characters, not 3. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/8/2006 6:59:48 AM | message detail |
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of course it has a better record.. it's 9 characters, not 3. Clinkeroth has a loss. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/8/2006 7:03:08 AM | message detail |
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lol mario --- 4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2006 7:11:08 AM | message detail |
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oh, I thought we were counting wins. --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/8/2006 7:12:44 AM | message detail |
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That would be sort of unfair considering that Clinkeroth wins are counted into the Noble Nine's record. <_< --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/8/2006 7:13:06 AM | message detail |
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Last year, we were all predicting everyone to break the Noble Nine,
with Tifa over Sonic, Vincent over Crono, and anyone in his division it
seemed over Snake, and we were burned too badly to try it again. The
Noble Nine has a better record than even Clinkeroth! Those were some pretty asinine predictions then. This year both Tifa and Vincent are far more likely to break the noble nine, and Snake will be on the edge of surviving this one last contest as a noble niner more than ever before (SSBB and MGS4 should put him safe for a good while), with characters like Bowser, Ganondorf, Vincent, Squall and Tifa breathing in his neck. TIFA?? DUDE WTF!! Meh KH2 and AC could provide a nice surprise. Even though Zelda could beat her, she just doesn't have the same potential for this contest (unless it starts so late that TP will be messing things up). --- Nominate Vincent Valentine for the character battle! |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2006 7:15:20 AM | message detail |
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.. oh yeah! I knew they were included in the Noble Nine! >_> --- “Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 8/8/2006 8:26:33 AM | message detail |
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Crono in SSBB. What happens? --- "Free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny"-- Commissioner Pravin Lal |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/8/2006 10:10:15 AM | message detail |
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Hmm. --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| NewLib | Posted 8/8/2006 10:13:27 AM | message detail |
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I be interested to see a SSBB Crono vs Mario. In theory Crono should
win, but all the new support that Crono is getting is from the Nintendo
fans. So he might just get SFFd by Mario and still lose. --- --NL-- Z1mZum made me look like Toadette. And made me nominate her. |
| Guess how many teens | Posted 8/8/2006 10:21:52 AM | message detail |
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Crono would get weaker because he appeared in a nintendo game? --- I got owned Z1mZum, the BSE Guru Champion! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 10:24:44 AM | message detail |
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He would obviously lose his indie cred. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/8/2006 10:38:30 AM | message detail |
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lawl @ overrating SSBB boosts. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2006 10:52:02 AM | message detail |
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I honestly wouldn't be too shocked if Crono takes a huge dive one of
these years. We're coming up on a new console generation, which will
definitely serve to bring in new and different pools of voters. It
doesn't take much at all for that 45% from Vincent to turn into 49%
from Bowser, and that would get everyone talking. --- The Summer 2006 Guru Contest: Where Z1mZum kicked my ass. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2006 10:55:02 AM | message detail |
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Also, if everyone wonders why I'm so quick to sing Bowser's praises,
it's because I do, in large part, agree with Karma Hunter's theory of
iconic characters holding an edge. As such, I view Bowser as the
biggest threat to break through the Noble Nine in the upcoming years.
Neither Vincent, Ganondorf, or Squall have the history and status in
the gaming industry that Bowser has amassed. He may not be GameFAQs'
villain, but he's video gaming's villain. --- The Summer 2006 Guru Contest: Where Z1mZum kicked my ass. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/8/2006 11:35:18 AM | message detail |
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"Icons" may hold an edge on their equals, but they do no such thing in regards to their betters. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/8/2006 11:46:27 AM | message detail |
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We're coming up on a new console generation Which Chrono Trigger may be a part of, thanks to the Virtual Console! Huzzah! --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/8/2006 12:12:11 PM | message detail |
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Crono in SSBB. What happens? We'll have a Marth that can use Pikachu's attacks. As for strength he will go up, but I think Mario can still win. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush Congratulations to Z1mZum for winning the Guru Contest |
| voltch | Posted 8/8/2006 12:14:48 PM | message detail |
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when you think about it what is bowser's career defining moment? the match against snake? the 500/500 against sephiroth? his opening of the villains contest? --- Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever conest. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 12:23:37 PM | message detail |
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Honestly... just the Virtual Console by itself is worth buying a Wii
for me. (I don't emulate, *****es) Considering I probably won't enjoy
TP, as I've never been more than apathetic about any Zelda before, and
I enjoy Metroid, though it's not a must have for me, and I'll still be
getting it at launch. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/8/2006 12:32:48 PM | message detail |
| I really hope Nintendo doesn't milk the Virtual Console prices. I'd be willing o pay $5 for a Super Nintendo game I really want to try out (say, Chrono Trigger), but I can't part with any more without feeling ripped off. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 12:40:50 PM | message detail |
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Yeah... it's not like they're going to be making any money off the
games anymore selling the cartridges, anymore than a couple bucks and I
won't be down. Unless of course it's a game I really, really want, but
even then much more and I still probably wouldn't. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2006 12:43:39 PM | message detail |
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About Vincent potentially rSFF'ing Solid...do keep in mind that Aeris
seemed to do normally against Solid in 2k2 and rose a lil' bit in 2k3.
That would mean either her small role in KH boosted her a bit or Solid
SFF'd her a bit (or random fluctuation, but where's the fun in that?).
I take it that Vincent's stronger, sure, and we saw FF7 **** up MGS,
but I wouldn't take it THAT far either -- and if so, not much at all. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 12:47:43 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Vincent rSFFing Snake is out of the realm of possibility
at all. As for Aeris, I contribute that to random fluctuation AKA a
ridiculous change in votals and people who come to this site (Not KHF!). --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/8/2006 12:49:34 PM | message detail |
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If Vincent is able to rSFF Solid, then I wouldn't think the case I've made for Vincent rSFF'ing Crono is a stretch at all. --- Z1mZum performed a hit and run on me in the Guru Contest. It still hurts to be rear-ended like that..... |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/8/2006 12:50:48 PM | message detail |
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Explain how rSFF on Solid Snake works for damn near anybody --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 12:52:11 PM | message detail |
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If Vincent is able to rSFF Solid, then I wouldn't think the case I've made for Vincent rSFF'ing Crono is a stretch at all. That's why I never said anything against it! Even if I think him SFFing Snake is more probable. --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/8/2006 12:52:33 PM | message detail |
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SFFing rSFFing blah blah --- Explicit Content I have been thoroughly owned by Z1mZum. Cheer me up. Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/8/2006 12:53:30 PM | message detail |
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Solid **** --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush Congratulations to Z1mZum for winning the Guru Contest |
| SephirothG | Posted 8/8/2006 2:47:02 PM | message detail |
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My god, are you people actually debating whether or not Vincent could take Solid Snake? XD Although, a related interesting point: Snake > Crono, but Crono > Sonic and Crono > Mega Man. I have no logic behind this whatsoever. --- Z1mZum:Me :: solarshadow:Tai My boyfriend is uncut and I laugh at him and ask him if I can put pennies in there. He doesn't appreciate it much.~ Ryoko |
| Super Luigi | Posted 8/8/2006 2:48:21 PM | message detail |
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| TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/8/2006 2:49:59 PM | message detail |
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Ah, so Chrono Trigger and Link to the Past are potential threats to the Ocarina of Time then? Okay, I know this is from last topic and it probably even has been discussed to death, but after seeing this statement again, I HAVE to step in and say something. I wanted to say something last night, but then I went to bed. Why do people automatically throw that FFVII SFF'ing Chrono Trigger means that Chrono Trigger is at Ocarina of Time's level? Last I checked, there was a significant gap between OoT and Chrono Trigger. Certainly enough for Chrono Trigger to have been SFF'd a tad and still lose to Ocarina of Time. And I absolutely can't stand how people are adamant that Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII don't share the same fanbase. Sure one might not be unproportionally preferred to the other, but come on now. They are arguably the two biggest Square RPGs. SURELY there must be a significant overlap of fanbases. And with that said, that means that any character relationship between them is fair game. Outside of Vincent/Crono, we've never seen how Chrono performs on one of the bigger Final Fantasy characters. For all we know, Crono gets hit by major SFF against Cloud or Sephiroth. Would Vincent overperforming on him seem so unlikely then? We simply don't have that info yet. As for FFVII SFF'ing CT, what exactly says that it didn't? Like I said, there's still a 4-5% gap between CT and Ocarina of Time. And who's to say that CT couldn't have gotten 47 or 48% on OoT rather than the 45% it's expected to get? Does it really make anything seem out of whack in consequence? Let's speculate a bit. CT being SFF'd would bring the 8-bit and 16-bit divisions up. We saw Super Mario Bros. perform better than we thought against Final Fantasy. Maybe SMB3 was stronger than the x-stats show against FFVII... Is there anything wrong with the SNES games looking a couple percent stronger? Street Fighter did impress in the series contest. And perhaps we underestimated how much strength LttP really would bring to the LoZ series. I'm majorly speculating right now, but I'm just saying that there isn't really much that disputes that FFVII didn't SFF Chrono Trigger a tad. So we bring the convo back to characters with Vincent overperforming on Chrono. Sure there's a decent argument for Vincent not overperforming, but I certainly am not taking "Final Fantasy VII didn't SFF Chrono Trigger" as a decent argument, especially when we're talking about characters between the two games. You're not going to tell me that they don't have an overlapping fanbase, because I know good and well that many of us here alone like both games. Anyways, just wanted to bring out a point. Feel free to dispute it if you may! |
| NewLib | Posted 8/8/2006 2:54:54 PM | message detail |
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If that FFVII and CT match was anywhere else but the finals, FFVII wins by more. Think Cloud/Sephiroth 2003 compared to Cloud/Sephiroth 2004. I dont know if the gap is at large, but its definitely larger. --- --NL-- Z1mZum made me look like Toadette. And made me nominate her. |
| steve illumina | Posted 8/8/2006 3:17:44 PM | message detail |
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Waits for the Bracket! --- Steve Illumina: Sage of Board 8 & Elitist Analyst Beaten by Z1m...may he revel in his Guru glory! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/8/2006 4:07:46 PM | message detail |
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Although, a related interesting point: Snake > Crono, but Crono
> Sonic and Crono > Mega Man. I have no logic behind this
whatsoever. But...Snake actually lost to Crono. --- Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum. |
| SephirothG | Posted 8/8/2006 4:10:42 PM | message detail |
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That's just my guess should those matches happen in the future. --- Z1mZum:Me :: solarshadow:Tai My boyfriend is uncut and I laugh at him and ask him if I can put pennies in there. He doesn't appreciate it much.~ Ryoko |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/8/2006 4:23:46 PM | message detail |
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It's amazing how fast I lose interest in these contests during the offseason. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/8/2006 4:55:48 PM | message detail |
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Guess I'd better do my usual analysis of Noble Nine releases in the past year, and potentially affecting games in the future: Link: Recent releases: None Upcoming releases: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass Zelda Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl Cloud: Recent releases: Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (not a game, but whatever) Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (it'll be out by contest time) Kingdom Hearts II Upcoming releases: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII Sephiroth: Recent releases: Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Kingdom Hearts II Upcoming releases: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII Mario: Recent releases: Mario Tennis: Power Tour Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time Mario Kart: Arcade GP Mario Kart DS Mario Superstar Baseball Super Mario Strikers Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix Mario Party 7 Super Princess Peach New Super Mario Bros. Upcoming releases: Mario Hoops 3-on-3 Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2 Super Mario Galaxy Super Paper Mario WarioWare: Smooth Moves Yoshi's Island 2 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Samus: Recent releases: Metroid Prime Pinball Metroid Prime Hunters Upcoming releases: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Super Smash Bros. Brawl Sonic: Recent releases: Sonic Rush Shadow the Hedgehog Sonic Riders Sonic the Hedgehog (Mobile) Upcoming releases: Sonic the Hedgehog (XB360, PS3) Sonic Wild Fire Sonic Rivals Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis Mega Man: Recent releases: Mega Man Powered Up Mega Man Battle Network 6 Upcoming releases: Mega Man ZX Rebirth Rockman: ZN Crono: Recent releases: None Upcoming releases: None Snake: Recent releases: Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence Metal Gear Acid 2 Upcoming releases: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Super Smash Bros. Brawl --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/8/2006 5:33:12 PM | message detail |
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Why is Crono behind Sonic/Megaman? Are you implying that they are above Crono this year? --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/8/2006 5:41:18 PM | message detail |
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Actually I'd go for the upset and probably take both Mega Man and Sonic over him. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush Congratulations to Z1mZum for winning the Guru Contest |
| Lopen | Posted 8/8/2006 5:45:00 PM | message detail |
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I went for Mega Man > Crono last year, you can be sure I'd try my
luck again. The match was so close, anyway. And whatever slight
boosting/dropping advantage there is to be had has to go to Mega Man. --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |