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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 4:51:57 PM | message detail
It's not that it's getting "not great" or lackluster reviews. It's getting actual bad reviews, from what I've heard.

That is because the four reviews or so that are actually up reviewed the Japanese version of the game for whatever reason, as mentioned. It would be nice if those few would actually go back to review the much improved American version of the game eventually, but it seems doubtful. I would expect Dirge of Cerberus's reviews to end up somewhere around that 70% mark, which is all it really needs to be.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 4:53:29 PM | message detail
NSMB.

I'm just going to sit back and hear someone explain this one to me. Tell me why Bowser gets a fairly significant boost from NSMB.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2006 4:57:39 PM | message detail
Because it is the newest 2D platformer the Mario series has had in a while. I'd think it would be a pretty huge deal on this site, especially with the apparent voting pool shift favoring Nintendo.
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 4:59:49 PM | message detail
Bowser > Vincent
Big Bob | Posted 8/7/2006 5:02:17 PM | message detail
Nintendo announces a 2D platformer called "Super Bowser". Board's reaction?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:03:57 PM | message detail
Because it is the newest 2D platformer the Mario series has had in a while. I'd think it would be a pretty huge deal on this site, especially with the apparent voting pool shift favoring Nintendo.

NSMB wasn't really that big of a deal here. If that poll was any indication, there is still a large chunk of this site that doesn't even have the game. Bowser's role in the game was no more than what he usually takes on in a game. If you think he's getting a fairly significant boost, then you'd have to be expecting an even bigger one for Mario, and possibly Luigi as well. I doubt any of their boosts are even all that notable, to be honest.

And that poll I'm talking about ...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2417

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:08:38 PM | message detail
And also, Vincent barely scraped past Squall. I sure as hell wouldn't take Squall over Bowser, let alone Snake. DoC won't boost Vincent above those two.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:09:21 PM | message detail
Nintendo announces a 2D platformer called "Super Bowser". Board's reaction?

The Noble Nine is so screwed
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:09:53 PM | message detail
I recall Squall/Bowser being heavily debated before 2K5. I don't see why it wouldn't be debatable now, since although Bowser boosted, Squall was apparently stronger than anyone except Leonhart thought.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:13:16 PM | message detail
And also, Vincent barely scraped past Squall. I sure as hell wouldn't take Squall over Bowser, let alone Snake. DoC won't boost Vincent above those two.

Perhaps you just don't understand. Vincent is already nearly equal to those two in strength. You're refusal to accept such things is just...stupid. We are talking about Vincent needing a whopping 2% boost in order to be stronger than those two. Are you seriously going to try to tell me that Dirge of Cerberus -- a game where Vincent is the star and is the complete focus -- Advent Children, and Kingdom Hearts II cannot make up that difference? All of that without even mentioning Final Fantasy VII's proven ability to really take it to Metal Gear. And it doesn't matter what round it takes place in because Vincent just cannot have a bad picture.

All of that cannot make up 2%? That should be the bare minimum for something like this.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:16:10 PM | message detail
I have no idea why people ignore all reason when discussing Vincent either. It's like there's someone punching, kicking, and stabbing you trying to get you to realize that Vincent's going to be a beast this year and the response is just "Nope. He won't gain much."

Mind blowing. <<

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/7/2006 5:16:47 PM | message detail
Draco is just being ignorant. Ignore him.
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:18:03 PM | message detail
At least the Vincent doubters, myself included, were somewhat justified last year. This year it boils down to "doc iz crap lawlz" as the lone reason that Vincent won't gain. I was wrong about Vincent once and I don't intend to underestimate him again.
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 5:19:03 PM | message detail
It can make the difference but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is going to happen. This is similar to how you said that Cloud was going to beat Link after the Advent Children Link, and how there is going to be a shift towards Square after KH2 and stuff. It gives Vincent a chance, but it definitely isn't guaranteed. Besides, just because the stats say they are the same strength doesn't mean that Bowser wouldn't have beaten Vincent 53-47 or something in the first place...
TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 5:20:04 PM | message detail
*leak, not Link... <_<
YoAriel33 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:21:30 PM | message detail
Oh, Vincent should definitely gain. You just have to ask yourself: if last year's Nintendo shift has continued to grow this year, will Vincent's boost be enough to take Bowser? Personally, until he's beaten by a non-Noble Niner, I view Bowser as the Character Battle's #10. I'd be much more inclined to take Vincent over Ganondorf, but I'd probably side with near-iconic Bowser against Mr. Valentine.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:24:37 PM | message detail
This is similar to how you said that Cloud was going to beat Link after the Advent Children Link,

My reasoning that year was not the link; rather, it was that Advent Children was supposed to come out simultaneously in both Japan and America on that day. It was delayed about a week or so before, but I wasn't about to give up on Cloud beating Link. This is the year where Cloud has Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II. I have been preaching the same thing for years, but it hasn't actually happened until this year. Cloud has all of the necessary things there to get him the win. He did not have these in 2005.

and how there is going to be a shift towards Square after KH2 and stuff. It gives Vincent a chance, but it definitely isn't guaranteed.

I do not see how anyone can say otherwise. Square will undoubtedly be at its strongest this year across the entire board -- Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent, Tifa, Auron, etc. They are all going to be stronger this year than they have been in any previous year. Nintendo as well should be at their strongest since they got their boosts last year, too.

Besides, just because the stats say they are the same strength doesn't mean that Bowser wouldn't have beaten Vincent 53-47 or something in the first place...

Yeah, and nothing says Vincent couldn't have beat Bowser in a match that year either. Now let's talk about something that is very likely -- Vincent increasing.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:25:42 PM | message detail
Hmm...we'll see what happens, but as of now, for some reason, I'd take Bowser over Vincent and not think twice about it.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:28:34 PM | message detail
You just have to ask yourself: if last year's Nintendo shift has continued to grow this year, will Vincent's boost be enough to take Bowser? Personally, until he's beaten by a non-Noble Niner, I view Bowser as the Character Battle's #10.

You can think about like that all you want, but ignoring what is in Vincent's corner against Bowser's is just being blind. I have already gone over how I think it is absolutely dumb to rely on the Nintendo shift to continue in the face of Square actually releasing more in the past year than they ever have as far as contests are concerned. There is no reason to believe that Nintendo will continue to widen the gap this year after what Square has done.

I'd be much more inclined to take Vincent over Ganondorf, but I'd probably side with near-iconic Bowser against Mr. Valentine.

I would be more willing to side with the character with all the reason to pass Bowser with ease and who originates from this site's number one game, myself. "Iconic" status means nothing here.

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SephirothG | Posted 8/7/2006 5:30:18 PM | message detail
Bowser > Ganondorf?
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SephirothG | Posted 8/7/2006 5:30:32 PM | message detail
rSFF style?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:31:24 PM | message detail
Definitely. Bowser > Ganondorf.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:31:31 PM | message detail
Hmm...we'll see what happens, but as of now, for some reason, I'd take Bowser over Vincent and not think twice about it.

I really don't know why. What makes you so confident in Bowser? The arguments presented for him have been anything but convincing.

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SephirothG | Posted 8/7/2006 5:32:21 PM | message detail
Although...

After DoC:

Vincent > Bowser
Bowser > Ganondorf
Ganondorf > Vincent!
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:33:00 PM | message detail
Wii in the middle of the contest > Kingdom Hearts II + Dirge of Cerberus + Advent Children + PS3 in the middle of the contest

To me, a lot of the predicting in this contest will just deal with trying to pin-point the Wii's release date.
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 5:33:38 PM | message detail
Once again, Heroic Mario thinks that his argument is correct and everyone that disagrees is blind.

Bowser > Vincent.
Tediz247 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:35:41 PM | message detail
Fourpack time. Remember KH2 for Squall >_>

Vincent
Bowser

Squall
Ganondorf

My choices:

Vincent > Bowser
Squall > Ganondorf (Assuming TP isn't out by then)

Vincent > Squall
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:36:23 PM | message detail
From TheFreeshooter Posted 8/7/2006 7:33:38 PM #426
Once again, Heroic Mario thinks that his argument is correct and everyone that disagrees is blind.

Bowser > Vincent.


Nice job backing it up, yo. Whether or not you disagree with him, at least HM actually backs up his claims.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/7/2006 5:36:33 PM | message detail
Wii in the middle of the contest > Kingdom Hearts II + Dirge of Cerberus + Advent Children + PS3 in the middle of the contest

Joke post?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:37:12 PM | message detail
Wii in the middle of the contest > Kingdom Hearts II + Dirge of Cerberus + Advent Children + PS3 in the middle of the contest

To me, a lot of the predicting in this contest will just deal with trying to pin-point the Wii's release date.


If this contest is still taking place that late in November, we have a serious problem. If this contest starts September 1st, or around there, we have no problems to worry about with either the Wii or PS3.

Once again, Heroic Mario thinks that his argument is correct and everyone that disagrees is blind.

When was the last time I felt that way?

But I do think people are blind when they are ignoring something as substantial as what is being presented for Vincent. It's being tossed aside as if it were nothing. If Cloud were the main character of Dirge of Cerberus, how many people here would even think about taking Link?

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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:38:23 PM | message detail
Joke post?

No joke. Take a look at the past few polls. This site wants the Wii to be a resounding success, and it wants the PS3 to fail. It's seething for it.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/7/2006 5:38:35 PM | message detail
8 Pack of Doom!

Vincent
Bowser

Kirby
Ryu

Ganondorf
Squall

Tidus
Knuckles
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:39:57 PM | message detail
Vincent
Bowser

Squall
Ganondorf


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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 5:40:49 PM | message detail
Nice job backing it up, yo. Whether or not you disagree with him, at least HM actually backs up his claims.

I'm not yo... <_<; And forgive me for disagreeing that Vincent automatically will beat Bowser. I already said that DoC gives him a great chance of doing it, but it's definitely not a given.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:41:32 PM | message detail
And back to that blind comment, it would be the same way if I were to say that Cloud is still going to win the contest after Twilight Princess comes out. I'm sure I would be met with some choice comments that range from "blind" to "Mega Man over Link!" =p

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:41:53 PM | message detail

And I can see Vincent defeating Snake, something that Bowser could not do.


Yeah, well, you're planning on taking him over Bowser. The two are somewhat close.

There is no ignoring the fact that Vincent and Bowser are already close. The comparisons you went on to make serve no purpose whatsoever when they actually ended up very close in strength. The fact that you viewed one more impressive than the other also has nothing to do with how this year would go.


Yeah, they're close if you go by using stats, but sometimes you have to bypass them and use your own opinions. Tidus/Shadow is a perfect example of this, and that match even turned out to be very close; I doubt Vincent/Bowser would. And their matches were different enough to require one being more noteworthy than another. Whether it was just because his bracket placement didn't allow for him to be as noteworthy as Bowser's victories, 49.41% on Snake is more impressive than 44.61% on Crono, regardless of what the stats say.

If you think Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, and Kingdom Hearts II wouldn't put Vincent over Bowser


Okay, the game isn't out yet. While it's supposed to be much better than the radically inferior Japanese version, there's only so much they can do, in what? a year? I know you've said it doesn't have to become radically better, but still, if you want to undermine DoC, that's where it comes in. It's no KH2, and apparently, it's not even close.

Advent Children is a movie. No matter what it did or didn't do last year, it's still just a movie.

Vincent was not in Kingdom Hearts II. Not sure if anyone else has pointed that out, but, um, he wasn't. I know it's supposed to result in the Square influx; personally I don't buy that. If that occurred to a large enough degree, it would have influenced the Series contest, and if it did occur and did affect the Series contest, it obviously wasn't enough.

, then you're expecting some type of fairly significant boost from Bowser for whatever reason. Vincent has the most room for improvement of the non-Noble Nine characters by far. Trying to undermine Vincent's upcoming boost or what he did in the previous contest is silly.


Bowser doesn't need to boost to beat Vincent though, and I don't see those factors helping him out enough to win. If you're willing to subscribe to KH2 drawing in Square fans, NSMB has been dominating the sales charts recently, it isn't as hated, as say, Dirge of Cerberus.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:42:21 PM | message detail
He's not saying Vincent is GUARANTEED to beat Bowser. He's just presenting his arguments in a very HM-like manner. Just be glad it isn't Chichiri. =P
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 5:42:56 PM | message detail
And I'd still feel comfortable taking Bowser in that one. I don't need a reason to back that up. I'm not trying to convert everyone into thinking Bowser wins it. There is a sound argument for Vincent to win, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen. I'd take Bowser in that matchup and never look back at it.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2006 5:42:58 PM | message detail
Bowser
Kirby
Ganondorf
Knux

Bowser > Ganon
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:47:04 PM | message detail
Advent Children is a movie. No matter what it did or didn't do last year, it's still just a movie.

Do you think it's a coincidence that FFVII is now quite expensive and pretty hard to find after Advent Children, or that FFVII was propelled to the #1 FAQ? Advent Children not only gave Vincent a pretty cool role, it made people want to go back and play FFVII.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:49:54 PM | message detail
8 Pack of Doom!

Vincent
Bowser

Kirby
Ryu

Ganondorf
Squall

Tidus
Knuckles


Knuckles/Tidus wouldn't be a difficult match to predict. Replace it with something like Tidus/Donkey Kong. Or Master Chief/Alucard.

Bowser > Vincent
Kirby > Ryu
Ganondorf > Squall
Knuckles > Tidus

Bowser > Kirby
Ganondorf > Knuckles

And finally...
Bowser > Ganondorf

Squall/Ganon was tough for me.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:54:05 PM | message detail
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/7/2006 5:54:50 PM | message detail
Do you think it's a coincidence that FFVII is now quite expensive and pretty hard to find after Advent Children, or that FFVII was propelled to the #1 FAQ? Advent Children not only gave Vincent a pretty cool role, it made people want to go back and play FFVII.

It never dips very low on the faqs listing, though. And it isn't new anymore, either. It doesn't have the added benefit a game does of people needing to come back to the site again and again. FFVII is popular, we know that already. A movie that was going to cater to its fans is going to...make them like it even more? That's good and all, but in terms of increasing its characters, I just don't think it will do much.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/7/2006 5:55:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, they're close if you go by using stats, but sometimes you have to bypass them and use your own opinions. Tidus/Shadow is a perfect example of this, and that match even turned out to be very close; I doubt Vincent/Bowser would.

... What? Why would anyone use the stats to determine a 0.04% difference? You practically have to make your own arguments and use your own opinions for something like that. What you seem to want to imply is that Vincent did nothing that puts him close to Bowser, which is simply ridiculous. Bowser did nothing that puts him in a tier above Vincent or so far ahead that it doesn't matter what Vincent has. The fact of the matter is that he would have beaten him last year with 51.32% of the vote. It is close enough to warrant choosing Vincent then, much less now. The only reason I even bring the stats up is because people have this misconception that the two aren't close. That's not the reality of it.

I know you've said it doesn't have to become radically better, but still, if you want to undermine DoC, that's where it comes in. It's no KH2, and apparently, it's not even close.

You're going to bother bringing up the quality of the game when that is really not what matters. We're not talking about how well Dirge of Cerberus as a game would perform in a contest; we're talking about what it would do for Vincent. That same Vincent who has been in one game before -- Final Fantasy VII. That same Vincent who is optional in that game and is one of the strongest characters in the contest. That same Vincent who will get tons of exposure through Dirge of Cerberus regardless of its quality.

Advent Children is a movie. No matter what it did or didn't do last year, it's still just a movie.

... I'm not even going to discuss Advent Children with you. You grossly exaggerate the "movie" point to death. It's not even up for discussion that GameFAQs visitors watched and enjoyed the movie. That's just a simple fact. Its effects were clearly seen by Final Fantasy VII shooting up to the number one FAQ, Advent Children itself making the Top 10 FAQs, and that poll that showed a number of people having seen the movie or whatever.

I know it's supposed to result in the Square influx; personally I don't buy that. If that occurred to a large enough degree, it would have influenced the Series contest, and if it did occur and did affect the Series contest, it obviously wasn't enough.

Why would it have affected the series contest? What would have been affected? Kingdom Hearts still performed well in that contest. If you're talking about Final Fantasy, then we have already gone over that point plenty of times. Even if you bring Square fans here, it does not mean that they are going to mindlessly vote for Final Fantasy in a Series contest. Trying to use that to determine what will happen in the Character Battle will not prove to be good in the long run.

and I don't see those factors helping him out enough to win. If you're willing to subscribe to KH2 drawing in Square fans, NSMB has been dominating the sales charts recently, it isn't as hated, as say, Dirge of Cerberus.

Fortunately, Kingdom Hearts II has been right up there with NSMB dominating the sales charts. It has sold more and it has had a far larger presence on GameFAQs.

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shadow8021 | Posted 8/7/2006 6:00:28 PM | message detail
Bowser would not beat Ganondorf.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/7/2006 6:05:34 PM | message detail
... I'm not even going to discuss Advent Children with you. You grossly exaggerate the "movie" point to death. It's not even up for discussion that GameFAQs visitors watched and enjoyed the movie. That's just a simple fact. Its effects were clearly seen by Final Fantasy VII shooting up to the number one FAQ, Advent Children itself making the Top 10 FAQs, and that poll that showed a number of people having seen the movie or whatever.

I've been saying that since Day 1 though. And not enough people seem to share that opinion, which is why I tend to express mine whenever the subject comes up.


Why would it have affected the series contest? What would have been affected? Kingdom Hearts still performed well in that contest. If you're talking about Final Fantasy, then we have already gone over that point plenty of times. Even if you bring Square fans here, it does not mean that they are going to mindlessly vote for Final Fantasy in a Series contest. Trying to use that to determine what will happen in the Character Battle will not prove to be good in the long run.


So they're not going to mindlessly vote for Final Fantasy, which does include FFVII, but they're going to favor Vincent? The Square influx would have let FF win; if it didn't, I don't see how that's going to help not even the main character of FFVII. I'm trying to get to that KH2 is not a factor in Vincent's favor. Tifa, sure, but not Vincent.

And I'm keen on bringing up their past performances, because, even though they're still very close together, Bowser did it in a more convincing fashion, with the odd exception of Kirby. Vincent beat Dante, but only squeaked past Squall. Struggling with Squall and struggling with Snake are two different things. It's also easier to undermine Vincent's victories. Kerrigan? Who cares. Dante is valid. And you can make cases for Square SFF with both Squall and Crono.

That said, I expect it to be a good match; I would still side with Bowser.
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meche313 | Posted 8/7/2006 6:37:47 PM | message detail
Zero/Kirby is much better than Kirby/Ryu.
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TheFreeshooter | Posted 8/7/2006 6:44:52 PM | message detail
Zero is not losing to Kirby...
meche313 | Posted 8/7/2006 6:47:30 PM | message detail
Well, Ryu would be lucky to get 45% on Kirby IMO.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/7/2006 6:58:49 PM | message detail
That Bowser/Ryu match still worries me from last year. I really didn't expect, and still don't believe, Bowser did so well. In my head, it's still sort of automatic to easily put Ryu over Kirby, Dante, etc. Before last year, would anyone else have done that, too? Or is just casual pickerness inside my head?
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