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The Real Truth | Posted 8/5/2006 10:59:52 AM | message detail
That was poorly worded, but you get the idea. Even though he might not be in a new chapter of FF7 (Why would they make a continuation of it now anyway?), he will continue to be milked.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/5/2006 11:00:30 AM | message detail
Of course he'll continue to get used in Kingdom Hearts. Final Fantasy VII is a cash cow. Square would be stupid not to keep using Cloud and Sephiroth in that series.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
dethfdddddh | Posted 8/5/2006 11:00:50 AM | message detail
The Compilation fails if we don't have a game about the Wutai war.

And Sephiroth's survived so many deaths that I doubt that he'll ever be truly dead; SE will probably just pull the Deus Ex Machina excuse of having a random person acting as a host to him due to a surviving concentration of Jenova cells. They're not going to kill off their most popular villain anytime soon.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:01:27 AM | message detail
Too bad Tifa has always had a larger place in Cloud's heart! You never saw Aerith in the Lifestream sequence, did you? NO, SIR! The "sealed up, secret wish...tender memories, no one can ever know" refers to Tifa, not Aerith!

Childhood crush! We all had 'em! Besides, Tifa helped Cloud out because of Aerith. She's so considerate and selfless! Clearly a reason why Cloud prefers her!

Cloud only felt guilt because of what happened to her, not true love! He felt the same guilt about Zack!

Pfft! He was upset that he was let her die before he busted out the ring!

Surely that goes against your argument.

Hey, Tifa is just a replacement. Remember it well!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:03:41 AM | message detail
What does it matter? Sephiroth was still used and made to look like a superbadass. He's still being whored out after being killed how many times?

... That's generally the point. There's no problem with him being there as a cameo appearance in games like Kingdom Hearts. Square would be stupid to not put Sephiroth in a game like that. He can instantly get people intersted who would otherwise not be, which means a potential sale for Square.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Super Luigi | Posted 8/5/2006 11:04:42 AM | message detail
Anyone here looking forward to Star Fox Command?
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/5/2006 11:05:47 AM | message detail
Childhood crush! We all had 'em!

"Cloud, you're smiling."

"I am?"

"Yeah."

"Everything starts now. A new..." Cloud looked for the right words, "A new life."

"I'm going to live. I think that's the only way I can be forgiven. We've been through... all sorts of things."

"I guess you're right..."

"But when I think about how many times I've thought about starting a new life, it's funny."

"Why?"

"I've always failed to do it."

"That's not funny."

"...I think it will be all right this time."

Cloud became very quiet for a moment. Then he said, "Because you're with me."

"But I've always been with you."

"That's how it will be starting from tomorrow," Cloud replied smiling again.


Seems like more than a childhood crush to me!

Besides, Tifa helped Cloud out because of Aerith. She's so considerate and selfless! Clearly a reason why Cloud prefers her!

Why he prefers Tifa? I agree. Aerith was self-serving and was just trying to get into Cloud's pants. Tifa wanted to be in Cloud's heart. More noble, I must say!

Pfft! He was upset that he was let her die before he busted out the ring!

Oh, you mean the ring that Tifa wears now?
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:06:34 AM | message detail
The answer to this debate is simple. Just watch the 4 Golden Saucer dates, and tell me Cloud likes Aeris more than Barret.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:06:56 AM | message detail

And Sephiroth's survived so many deaths that I doubt that he'll ever be truly dead; SE will probably just pull the Deus Ex Machina excuse of having a random person acting as a host to him due to a surviving concentration of Jenova cells. They're not going to kill off their most popular villain anytime soon.


Well, he's really only died once before AC, and Square explained why he was able to come back in rather fine detail. They'd have a hard time explaining why he was able to come back a second time after how he went out. His line "I won't be a memory" or whatever is just one of those the villains always bust out before dying. "I SHALL NEVER BE DEFEATED!!! *dies*" That sort of thing.

And Cloud's story was brought to a close with Advent Children. I doubt they'll bother continuing it when it left off in a perfect way. Their other games seem to be focusing on other FFVII characters to flesh them out now anyway -- Vincent (DoC), Zack (CC), Turks (BC), etc.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/5/2006 11:07:15 AM | message detail
The Cloud/Yuffie chemistry was there, believe it! She was the only one with the intestinal fortitude to come right out and kiss him!
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:09:07 AM | message detail
I would say that last post was full of truth, but the username ruins it.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:10:12 AM | message detail
Seems like more than a childhood crush to me!

We all know how that ended up. Cloud living in Aerith's Church. And we all say the Cloud Tribute ending to AC!! Flowers on the desk from the field, yo!

Why he prefers Tifa? I agree. Aerith was self-serving and was just trying to get into Cloud's pants. Tifa wanted to be in Cloud's heart. More noble, I must say!

Aerith was just one of many who wanted into Cloud's pants, see. Luckily, she was the only one on his list until someone had to go and do his spoilerific thing. Dumb Sephiroth.

Oh, you mean the ring that Tifa wears now?

... Touche.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Slowflake | Posted 8/5/2006 11:11:28 AM | message detail
Aerith was just one who wanted into many's pants

Fix'd for truth.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:11:52 AM | message detail
Yuffie just realized she had to do something drastic, otherwise she was going to get left behind on The List!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
NewLib | Posted 8/5/2006 11:12:09 AM | message detail
Where is my FFVI remake? ;_; Celes you are still #1 in my heart.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/5/2006 11:12:11 AM | message detail
And we all say the Cloud Tribute ending to AC!! Flowers on the desk from the field, yo!

Probably for Tifa, like the last time he got flowers from Aerith!
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:12:40 AM | message detail
You changed the truth in nasty lies is more like it!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:12:46 AM | message detail
If Cait Sith hadn't ruined it, who knows what could have blossomed that night!
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/5/2006 11:13:17 AM | message detail
Except there was no panic or fear in his voice when he warned Cloud of his future return. Considering that he noticed that Meteor failed, I'd say it's quite likely that he knew that Aeris was responsible for manipulating the lifestream in order to halt it. After all, it's not that farfetched to imagine that he spent a few days in the lifestream after his defeat in FF VII. He'd likely suspect that Aeris would attempt to attack his incarnations and would've developed a back up plan in case of that result.

Besides, it's Cloud and Sephiroth. Light and Dark. It's a common literary device for their conflict to only truly be over when both of them die.
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NewLib | Posted 8/5/2006 11:13:20 AM | message detail
Wait. Does The List have anything to do with The Plan?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:13:23 AM | message detail
Aerith > Tifa > Celes, yo.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Slowflake | Posted 8/5/2006 11:13:44 AM | message detail
Nope, sorry. Aeris was a huge slut and an even bigger liar.

I feel really sorry for that guy she turned down in Corneo's mansion. Biggest failure of a man ever.
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 8/5/2006 11:14:56 AM | message detail
More like, Tifa > Yuna > Celes > Aerith!
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:16:02 AM | message detail
But Cloud is such an awesome manly man that after a few days around him, she gave up on other men! Cloud turned even the biggest slut into a desperate woman begging for his attention. So desperate for his attention, she ran off to the City of the Ancients, so she would feel special when Cloud came to find her.
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:16:23 AM | message detail
Everyone > Celes
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/5/2006 11:17:38 AM | message detail
Even Presea?
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:18:05 AM | message detail
Barely.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:19:32 AM | message detail
(Woohoo FFVII/AC Spoilers!!)



Except there was no panic or fear in his voice when he warned Cloud of his future return. Considering that he noticed that Meteor failed, I'd say it's quite likely that he knew that Aeris was responsible for manipulating the lifestream in order to halt it.

He certainly was unaware of how bad of an idea it was to kill Aerith. Holy, after all, was not able to stop Meteor by itself. Aerith had to call upon the Lifestream in the Planet to combine with Holy in order to stop Meteor. He may have discovered this after his time in the Lifestream, but it wouldn't have really mattered much anyway.

After all, it's not that farfetched to imagine that he spent a few days in the lifestream after his defeat in FF VII. He'd likely suspect that Aeris would attempt to attack his incarnations and would've developed a back up plan in case of that result.

His time spent in the Lifestream was corrupting it and trying to create a "Negative Lifestream" that would overtake the current Lifestream and give him complete control over the Planet. Imagine the scene with Kadaj walking into the water and spreading the black substance -- his will -- through the water and changing it. Similar thing happened in the Lifestream. But Square's not made any mention of him worrying about Aerith.

Besides, it's Cloud and Sephiroth. Light and Dark. It's a common literary device for their conflict to only truly be over when both of them die.

They were able to explain Sephiroth's return fairly easily this time, and while it is still possible, most feel it'd be a big stretch to bring him back again. But I doubt it's worth worrying about anyway. Square seems rather focused with taking care of the events pre-FFVII over post-FFVII at this point. DoC is the only game scheduled to come after FFVII right now.

Wait. Does The List have anything to do with The Plan?

It might!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:23:15 AM | message detail
In more contest-related news ...

Yuna v. Yuffie -- Who wins!

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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:23:35 AM | message detail
Yuna
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/5/2006 11:24:26 AM | message detail
I'd side with Yuna, but Yuffie would be a sexy upset pick.
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:25:02 AM | message detail
Yuffie's a sexy anything.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:26:14 AM | message detail
I'm liking Yuffie in such a match myself. I think it's really close either way though.

(DoC role FTW!!)

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/5/2006 11:26:43 AM | message detail
Not quite as sexy as Yuna, however!
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:27:18 AM | message detail
Truth
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Yesmar | Posted 8/5/2006 11:27:21 AM | message detail
I was being hypothetical with my Crono scenario. That's why I used the word "if."

I was very disappointed by Advent Children. The fanservice was OK, but I was expecting an actual good movie.

And

Aeris > Terra > Tifa > Celes IMO
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:28:37 AM | message detail
Talking of which I'm currently playing FFX-2. And, whenever nobody's talking, it's a decent game.

Except, just when it looks like there's some hope for the storyline, Rikku has to so "Aww, poopie".
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:29:01 AM | message detail
*say
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
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Slowflake | Posted 8/5/2006 11:29:42 AM | message detail
Yuna. Isn't Yuffie hated or something?
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:30:05 AM | message detail
Yuffie's a sexy anything.

Truth.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/5/2006 11:30:37 AM | message detail
Supposedly, but she's still from FFVII. Yuna's supposedly got a fair share of haters, as does Tidus. They do all right for themselves.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:30:42 AM | message detail
People whoe hate Yuffie are that way because they had their Materia stolen, clearly.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:31:14 AM | message detail
Any man who could hate Yuffie is a heartless demon.

And heartless demons have better things to do than vote in GameFAQs contests
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
[King of Board 8]
Slowflake | Posted 8/5/2006 11:31:37 AM | message detail
Exactly.

And she did a crappy job of it, too. She left me with a couple, including a Restore, an All and an Enemy Skill, which was all I really needed.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:32:42 AM | message detail
Hey -- it's not her fault you left it there for her taking. She's got ninja skillz, after all!


And we need a new FFVII favorite character poll or something. I wouldn't mind a week of those for different things.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:33:03 AM | message detail
See, Yuffie's even generous! When she could have stole all your materia, CRIPPLING you, she instead just took enough to restore all of Wutai, build it up to the size of Midgar and buy Shinra, and left you with what you needed to live.
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/5/2006 11:33:06 AM | message detail
Yuffie can only take so much Materia, so if you overstock, chances are you'll get left with SOMETHING at least. Of course, my first time through, I didn't have very much, so I lost it all.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:35:08 AM | message detail
I never have very much materia because all I use is HP Plus and Command materia. Magic lowers your strength too much!

Except last game, where I used Aeris all disc 1. She's awesome in battle due to her obscene magic stat, but on anyone else Magic is mostly useless.
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
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Steiner Shocker | Posted 8/5/2006 11:36:03 AM | message detail
And I have a very basic principle for RPGs: Magic sucks because it's not the first choice in combat so you have to go through the menus. Too much effort for me !!!
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Andel thought he was the only one capable of not living up to a bet.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/5/2006 11:36:45 AM | message detail
Heh. I never noticed this poll before ...

Would you buy enhanced versions of Final Fantasy VII, VIII, and IX on the PlayStation2?
No, I don't have a PS2 17.12% 4515
No, I don't like those games 8.26% 2179
Maybe, if they added some new features 25.87% 6823
Yes, at least one of them 21.16% 5580
Absolutely, all three of them! 27.59% 7277
TOTAL VOTES 26374

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=797

Good stuff.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.