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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 342

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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2006 10:20:17 PM | message detail
Tagteams done like Master's idea of a switch midway through the poll would be quite fun.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:20:57 PM | message detail
"Squall would get Bishounen rSFF and beat Sephiroth! Bank on it!"

Yeah, and Peach is a jobber too. *rolls eyes*
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 10:21:17 PM | message detail
That'd be too hard. Maybe Tag Teams where your partner changes every round, now that'd be interesting.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:21:49 PM | message detail
The only problem I have with the "free matches extra" is that they're practically just as predictable than the "gimme points" involving them. Rarely are you going to see an overthrow in the hierarchy in the Noble Nine. Basically, you're going to get to the point where...

Contest winner loses to Solid Snake, who loses to Sonic, who loses to Mega Man, who loses to Crono, who loses to Samus, who loses to Mario, who loses to Sephiroth, who loses to Cloud, who loses to Link.

Granted, the Noble Nine is certainly subject to change in the lower half in the next year or two, but you get the idea.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:22:22 PM | message detail
Yeah, and Peach is a jobber too.

Now you're catchin' on!
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 10:23:25 PM | message detail
Vincent or Bowser could very well jack a Noble Nine spot
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/4/2006 10:24:15 PM | message detail
^Eh, I think Ganon would do it before Bowser
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 10:24:45 PM | message detail
Oh boy, not the Ganon/Bowser debate again
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2006 10:26:24 PM | message detail
Know this idea is extremely farfetched, but could SMB doing so well on FF be taken as a sign of Sephiroth and Cloud possibly becoming touchable by Mario, Samus and Megaman again?
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:27:28 PM | message detail
The only part of Sephiroth those fools are touching is the tip of his sword.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:28:04 PM | message detail
"Yeah, and Peach is a jobber too.

Now you're catchin' on!"

to you being crazier than HM? Yeah, I AM catching on.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:28:45 PM | message detail
but could SMB doing so well on FF be taken as a sign of Sephiroth and Cloud possibly becoming touchable by Mario, Samus and Megaman again?

Everyone had the idea that Sephiroth was vulnerable last year...and we know how that turned out. More than likely, those two will never be beaten by anyone other than themselves and Link, especially after the inevitable FFVII remake.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:29:22 PM | message detail
to you being crazier than HM? Yeah, I AM catching on.

Except HM agrees with me on all points!
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/4/2006 10:29:29 PM | message detail
^Personally I think so.

This is just my theory (actually, I'm sure a lot of people might be thinking it), but I think the massive new voting pool is more pro-Nintendo than pro-Square (if that isn't obvious with SMB and LoZ's success on FF). Why wouldn't that carry over to a character contest? I wouldn't take Mario/Samus/MM to win, but I bet Mario/Seph would be an awful lot closer this time around.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:30:06 PM | message detail
"Know this idea is extremely farfetched, but could SMB doing so well on FF be taken as a sign of Sephiroth and Cloud possibly becoming touchable by Mario, Samus and Megaman again?"

They never had a shot at those cahracters, except that weir dmatch between MM/Seph that really never should have happened like it did. That aside, no, they aren't going to have a shot at Seph.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 8/4/2006 10:30:17 PM | message detail
That post was adressed to defaddhaahfh, whatever his name is.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:30:41 PM | message detail
"Except HM agrees with me on all points!"

That should be your first clue.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:31:21 PM | message detail
Sephiroth would still treat Mario like the Midgar Zolom, dood.

But by all means, put Sephiroth back into the main bracket. I wouldn't have any problems with it. =)
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:32:57 PM | message detail
While I wouldn't take Mario over Sephiroth, the Mario series doing well against FF would at least exist for you to point to if you did.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 10:34:53 PM | message detail
ExTha I would only allow that if a match pic between Solid Snake and Sephiroth featured an animated gif of Snake sneaking up on Sephiroth and RKOing him off a damn cliff. It'd be gold <_<
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:36:14 PM | message detail
Oh, and Leon, I don't think the ToC would work like that at all. Chances are it'd be an 8-man bracket if Ceek even took it that far. That was that year's chumpion gets in w/ L/C/S/M/S/C and another of the Noble Nine. Basically, IF it was taken to an extreme, It'd just seperate all but 2 of the Noble Niners, and those two are potentially beatable while all but 1 of the removed ones won't be for a good long time.

Wouldn't it be nice if just once the championship, or in this case chumpionship, was like a 6-way race? Can't you see it? MM, Sonic, Vincent, Bowser, Ganon and Squall all actually having a shot at jobbing to Link.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:37:28 PM | message detail
Ahem, Ceej, not Ceek. Stupid k next to the stupid j.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:38:01 PM | message detail
Just for kicks, say Twilight Princess and an FFVII remake came out on relatively the same day. Who do you take between Link and Cloud?
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:38:35 PM | message detail
Link.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:38:52 PM | message detail
Cloud.

FF7 remake > TP.

Oh, and Cloud for 2k9 champion... *sigh*
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2006 10:38:58 PM | message detail
Cloud. FF VII is the root of this site.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:39:30 PM | message detail
I'd take Cloud based on DIELINKYOUSONOFA*****WHYWONTYOULOSE
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:40:26 PM | message detail
Probably Link. I'm not sure if a remake will bring as many people to the site on any given day. Most people who buy it will know how to beat it, after all.

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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:40:27 PM | message detail
That's nearly my reasoning for taking him in 2k6. :)
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:41:23 PM | message detail
"Most people who buy it will know how to beat it, after all."

You mean to say you don't think they'd change things? You're nuts, yo.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:41:35 PM | message detail
I'd take Cloud based on DIELINKYOUSONOFA*****WHYWONTYOULOSEFACTOR

There, much better.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:41:53 PM | message detail
Also, I'd be even more weary if the remix was a PS3 title. I don't think the PS3 will have an installed user base big enough to really make a significant splash on the site within its first year or so.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:42:04 PM | message detail
Thanks J-man.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:42:46 PM | message detail
I declare the DLYSOBWWYL Factor as my reasoning for taking Cloud > Link this year.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:43:28 PM | message detail
Most people who buy it will know how to beat it, after all.

Come on. Square won't just give the game updated graphics. They'll add new content.

Besides, it's a Final Fantasy VII remake. That's a huge thing that would create overwhelming amounts of hype and excitement.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:43:42 PM | message detail
Launching across from TP almost assures it would be a PS2 title. Big games like that get held back for awhile by Sony. Seems to be their general rule, as they always seem to let the big dogs run when the system is in full production.
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Z1mZum | Posted 8/4/2006 10:44:07 PM | message detail
I'm a big fan of just scrolling through a thread and seeing half of the signatures have my name in them.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:46:11 PM | message detail
I don't think the PS3 will have an installed user base big enough to really make a significant splash on the site within its first year or so.

Poll 2412 (06/19/2006)
Would you buy a PlayStation 3 remake of Final Fantasy VII?

26080 29.9% Buy it? I'd invest in Square Enix to make it happen!
20936 24% Yes, I'd love to see it on a modern system
19117 21.91% Probably, if it was re-done well
9876 11.32% Probably not, I wasn't a big fan FF7
11227 12.87% No, I can't stand it


Poll 2379 (05/17/2006)
Do you plan to buy a PlayStation 3?

16643 22.69% Yes, the full $600 version
3077 4.19% Yes, the limited $500 version
11043 15.05% Maybe, if I see some good games
18286 24.92% Probably not, it's just too expensive
24316 33.14% No, I'd rather play a Wii/PC/360


Well...Isn't that interesting?
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
YoAriel33 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:46:49 PM | message detail
You mean to say you don't think they'd change things? You're nuts, yo.

Heh, probably.

it's a Final Fantasy VII remake. That's a huge thing that would create overwhelming amounts of hype and excitement.

Hmm... I'll agree with that, even though I've never played the game.

So, is the big complaint "Link will never lose again" or "Link will never lose until a FFVII remake comes out, after which he will lose every year"?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:48:00 PM | message detail
Link will lose when ExTha goes crazy and kills everyone who votes for him. >_>;
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:48:51 PM | message detail
Yeah, if the PS3 were launched w/ FF7remake the site would fangasm, and ownership of PS3's among GF users would be no less than 50% higher than they would be otherwise. FF7 matters here, it's the site's favorite game by a hell of a lot, even if it's series can't say the same.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:48:58 PM | message detail
I'm a big fan of just scrolling through a thread and seeing half of the signatures have my name in them.
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WELL YOU DON'T SEE IT IN MY SIG DO YOU, YOU ARROGANT LITTLE WHELP?!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:49:33 PM | message detail
I don't know if he'd lose every year, but in the immediate aftermath of an FFVII remake, I'd say he'd even be in danger of losing to Sephiroth.

Of course, that depends on how much Twilight Princess sets him above the two as well.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:49:38 PM | message detail
"even though I've never played the game."

Get off this ****ing site and don't come back 'til you have. It's too damn good to not play, man.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:51:05 PM | message detail
Well, I do think the game will get made. It seems silly that Square would release a FFVII movie and a bunch of spinoffs without remaking the original; the money and hype would be huge. Of course, it'll probably be at least a few years before that happens. Cloud has to wither one hell of a storm.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:51:08 PM | message detail
"I don't know if he'd lose every year, but in the immediate aftermath of an FFVII remake, I'd say he'd even be in danger of losing to Sephiroth."

Yes, it'd be 2k3 all over again except that Vincent would knock some poor blue dumb ass out of the noble Nine and Tifa and Aeris would both be knocking at the door.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/4/2006 10:51:56 PM | message detail
"Of course, it'll probably be at least a few years before that happens. Cloud has to wither one hell of a storm."

As I said, Cloud for 2k9 champ.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/4/2006 10:52:45 PM | message detail
Of course, that depends on how much Twilight Princess sets him above the two as well.

I think it matters more on the general voting pool more than anything else. Suppose the game launches in three years. In those three years, the Wii has become GameFAQs' favorite console. With an even more Nintendo-centric voting pool, I don't think the effect of a remake will be quite as big.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/4/2006 10:53:54 PM | message detail
I'd give up all my worldly possessions to see Sephiroth beat Link in one of these contests. I really, really would. I'd sell my soul for it, even. YOU HEAR THAT SATAN?! IF I GET TO ENJOY ONE WEEK OF SEPHIROTH > LINK(and Cloud), THEN YOU CAN HAVE MY DAMNED SOUL!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/4/2006 10:54:16 PM | message detail
With an even more Nintendo-centric voting pool, I don't think the effect of a remake will be quite as big.

When you've got a poll that indicates that people would buy a PS3 solely for a Final Fantasy VII remake when the Wii is already on target to be one of the more favored consoles, I think that says a lot. The site may be predominantly Nintendo, but FFVII is still the heart and soul of the site.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling