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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:10:24 PM | message detail
Yuna
Rikku
Yuffie
Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield


Other than Yuna none of those even have a chance of beating peach.
Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 4:10:30 PM | message detail
Say what you want... on this Halo hating board, Master Chief has 9 nominations according to the nomination tally... guess how many Cortana has...

7. Yeah, pretty close. The people do like Cortana... and yeah, I'd probably take her over Arbiter, now that I think about it. I'm not saying she'll be strong, or even necessarily break the fodder line, but I still think she could muster up enough to take Peach.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:10:47 PM | message detail
I'd take Jill over Peach, easily.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:11:07 PM | message detail

Other than Yuna none of those even have a chance of beating peach.


All of them would, plus more.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:11:20 PM | message detail
Other than Yuna none of those even have a chance of beating peach.

You DO know that Rikku is nearly equal with Yuna, and both are above Chun-Li, right? Jill Valentine has proven herself to be decently strong as well, and I believe Claire could be a little below.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:11:26 PM | message detail
From ccbfan Posted 8/4/2006 6:10:24 PM
Yuna
Rikku
Yuffie
Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield


Other than Yuna none of those even have a chance of beating peach.


Sure. I can already write your bracket off.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:12:09 PM | message detail
Peach is easily the 3rd most popular female Nintendo character.

True, but who's her competition for that? Misty? Krystal? Palette swap? Toadette?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:12:49 PM | message detail
True, but who's her competition for that? Misty? Krystal? Palette swap? Toadette?

Nidoran F...
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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:13:32 PM | message detail
Sure. I can already write your bracket off.

Many people said the same to me when they saw my best series bracket.

Can you guess what my score is for that?
Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:13:43 PM | message detail
Ah, silly me.

Oh, and Mother Brain.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:13:54 PM | message detail
And why in the world did we get back onto Peach again?

MOVE ON!

Okay...Somebody mentioned Kairi, what are we expecting from her?
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Osfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:14:11 PM | message detail
Has anyone stopped to think that this Peach discussion has lasted for almost 200 posts and she has near no shot of making it outta round 2. (I think we can all agree on that) I mean its Peach!!!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:14:33 PM | message detail
I wouldn't really expect much.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:15:45 PM | message detail
I wouldn't expect much from Kairi, either. Then again, I wouldn't expect much from the vast majority of the female bracket.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/4/2006 4:16:15 PM | message detail
Kairi? ...Can't see her being better than Ansem, and I doubt she'll get the seeding to get a managable opponent either.
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Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane
ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:16:26 PM | message detail
Bah, I'll take my Peach pick and we'll see what happens when the contest starts.

Hopefully the matches will be set up to prove me either right or wrong. (No fourth degree xstat crap)
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:16:37 PM | message detail
I think people are overrating how "fodder-filled" the females bracket will be.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:17:56 PM | message detail
I mean, really, how many non-fodder females are there?

Samus
Tifa
Zelda
Aeris
Yuna
Rikku
Chun-Li
Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield

...that's all I can think of now.
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Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 4:18:11 PM | message detail
Believe me, I don't expect anything out of Kairi either... and I'd probably take Cortana over her too. But that doesn't mean she doesn't get on the list.

... what?
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:18:16 PM | message detail
Kairi? Less than Peach.

Wait, uh... moving on, you say... still not much. She's not too much more than the damsel in distress in KH. She'll probably be stronger than DARKNESS, though I wouldn't bank on it. KHII should help her, though.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:18:45 PM | message detail
I mean, really, how many non-fodder females are there?

Lulu wouldn't be fodder, yo.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/4/2006 4:19:07 PM | message detail
Yuffie Draco
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:19:26 PM | message detail
Ah yeah, I forgot about Yuffie.
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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:19:36 PM | message detail

Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield


I wouldn't call these two non-fodder.

They were never strong to begin with and they can really only go down lately.
Who Cares? | Posted 8/4/2006 4:19:36 PM | message detail
I think people are overrating how "fodder-filled" the females bracket will be.

I've always felt the upper half of females would be far better than the Villains upper half.
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Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane
Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:21:18 PM | message detail
I wouldn't call these two non-fodder.

They were never strong to begin with and they can really only go down lately.


You consider Hayabusa fodder? Because Jill went toe-to-toe with him in 2004.

And I don't see why Claire wouldn't be much weaker, if at all, than Jill. RE2 is regarded as the next most popular RE installment next to 4.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:22:22 PM | message detail
I'm not denying that there will be a lot of fodder. I don't agree that the vast majority will be bad fodder, like people think.

Also...

KOS-MOS
Yuffie
Lulu
Cammy (possibly)

Terra and Celes are close, to boot. Possibly Quistis and/or Rinoa.

And even with this, we've already easily beaten out the Villains Contest for non-fodder.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:22:25 PM | message detail
From Who Cares? Posted 8/4/2006 6:19:36 PM
I think people are overrating how "fodder-filled" the females bracket will be.

I've always felt the upper half of females would be far better than the Villains upper half.


True. There were only 3 non-fodder characters in the Villains top-half, IMO. Females has some potential, it's just when you go down the list then the talent runs dry very quickly.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/4/2006 4:22:44 PM | message detail
I mean, really, how many non-fodder females are there?

I just posed the question a few posts ago, asking who could fall in the 23%-18% on Base Link range (pretty much KOS-MOS to Terra), which wouldn't be pure fodder.
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:23:42 PM | message detail
wouldn't call these two non-fodder.

They were never strong to begin with and they can really only go down lately.


Jill Valentine has beaten Kirby and has outperformed Luigi on Squall. She went 50/50 with Hayabusa, who certainly is NOT fodder. And despite what you may think of Tidus, Claire Redfield actually put up a respectable performance.
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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:31:58 PM | message detail
You consider Hayabusa fodder? Because Jill went toe-to-toe with him in 2004.

And I don't see why Claire wouldn't be much weaker, if at all, than Jill. RE2 is regarded as the next most popular RE installment next to 4.


Depends on what you consider fodder.

Some people think only the super weak are fodder.


I see everyone under Donkey kong as fodder.

I personally don't think Ryu, Jill and Claire could beat Donkey Kong. Jill might be able to in 2002 but I don't think anymore.
Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:35:06 PM | message detail
I see everyone under Donkey kong as fodder.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 4:36:08 PM | message detail
Tag. Now lets see what the ol Statheads are talkin bout today.
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/4/2006 4:36:11 PM | message detail
Why does everyone forget Aya Brea? Sure she might have gotten weaker now, but she almost won over freaking DK who then got SFF'D as hell against Mario. I think she has at least something to do in this contest. And blonde girls are known for doing well in this poll (Tina > Gordon Freeman, Samus (Even if she shouldn't count), Rikku doing great against Ryu, Mithos (HEH!) looking stronger than Lloyd e.t.c)

And Lyndis should be pretty popular as well. Her number of nominations on this board is crazy.



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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:36:19 PM | message detail
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So Ryu (SF), Tidus, Leon Kennedy, and Yoshi are all fodder?

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 4:36:53 PM | message detail
Draco, I think he means Pre-Nintendo boost Donkey Kong.
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/4/2006 4:37:33 PM | message detail
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:37:58 PM | message detail
Then he needs to use a percentage value or a new character as his fodder cut off line.

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From: longbladeofhiko | Posted: 8/4/2006 4:36:53 PM | Message Detail
Draco, I think he means Pre-Nintendo boost Donkey Kong.


Even pre-Nintendo boost DK is far from fodder. Didn't we establish Vyse's pre-2k5 value as the fodder line?
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/4/2006 4:39:30 PM | message detail
Something always striked me as odd about DK now being worth 30% in the stats and having close matches with Auron and Ryu.
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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:40:11 PM | message detail
So Ryu (SF), Tidus, Leon Kennedy, and Yoshi are all fodder?

It obvious all those can beat Donkey Kong.

Again as I've said many time before and argued many times don't prove things with 8 degrees of outdated xstats.

Theres a reason why the analysis crew was so horendous.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:41:14 PM | message detail
If he is referring to DK 2k4, then the "fodder" cut off is at 23.55% on Base Link. Hayabusa 2k5 is at 23.75%, so he'd be above the fodder line in that case.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 4:41:15 PM | message detail
You know what would be interesting? Ryu Hayubasa vs Alucard. I dunno why but I think those two could put on a pretty close match. The X-Stats probably favor Alucard with about 55-57% though knowing my luck.
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/4/2006 4:43:13 PM | message detail
I'm not going to give any %, but there's no way Alucard can lose against Ryu Hayabusa, but the vote swings COULD (Based on what Castlevania did to HALO) be interesting ^_^
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:43:48 PM | message detail
Theres a reason why the analysis crew was so horendous.

The latest Crew? Yeah -- this contest was new. There was little reason to even look at the previous contest stats for the Series Contest.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:44:37 PM | message detail
Alucard =/= the Castlevania series.

Alucard sucks with the day vote. Always has, always will.

For the record, I'd take Alucard in that match.
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Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 4:46:19 PM | message detail
Theres a reason why the analysis crew was so horendous.

Oh, yeah... nice cheap shotting... thought we were "horrendous" (I doubt you'd do any better at all... but let's not make this a flame war) or not, you can't really blame X-Stats on it... there were none to speak of!

And yeah, I think DK is overrated... but I still think he could beat half the field in a normal contest. Are you calling half the field fodder? That's foolishness.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/4/2006 4:46:32 PM | message detail
For the record, I'd take Alucard in that match.

Ahh, but with how much? But I guess Alucard would have the favor if that match happened to take place this year, seeing as Castlevania's got a decent boost from Dawn of Sorrow we can try and assume.
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ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:46:47 PM | message detail
There was little reason to even look at the previous contest stats for the Series Contest.

Well that sure didn't stop you guys from drilling xstat into everyone.