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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 9:32:25 PM | message detail
1up 1up 1up 1up 1up....



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



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swirIdude | Posted 8/3/2006 9:33:03 PM | message detail
Most awesome first post evar!
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After the Series Contest, Z1mZum is now the guy I want to be like!
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 9:33:40 PM | message detail
*makes 1-Up sound effect*
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Janus5000 | Posted 8/3/2006 9:51:32 PM | message detail
Playing NSMB or something?
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Those who are ordinary gurus decide nothing. Z1mZum decides everything. Including my nominating Toadette.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 2:33:00 PM | message detail
Lulu > Peach!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 2:33:27 PM | message detail
Tag
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest
Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/4/2006 2:35:31 PM | message detail
What's with all the Peach hate?

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...Z1mZum owned my B1mBum in the Guru Contest...
Sir Crono | Posted 8/4/2006 2:36:43 PM | message detail
There's no Peach hate. It's Peach apathy! Learn the difference!
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As you wish.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 2:37:59 PM | message detail
Lulu is just awesome, see.


But, uh, I just don't care about Peach. She's just sort of...there. I do hope she completely bombs in the contest though!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Big Bob | Posted 8/4/2006 2:43:06 PM | message detail
Out of curiousity, what's the cut-off post # when people start trying to get the 500th post?
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Damned Z1mZum, beating me by one point. I'm gonna be pissed if Toadette makes 2k6 and Mewtwo doesn't.
78/80 points, baby!
Sir Crono | Posted 8/4/2006 2:43:34 PM | message detail
There's not really a set number.
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As you wish.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 2:49:39 PM | message detail
That was unusually simple.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 2:49:56 PM | message detail
Those last two posts were filled with nasty lies.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 2:50:26 PM | message detail
How can "truth" be filled with nasty lies?
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Osfan | Posted 8/4/2006 2:52:02 PM | message detail
any truth from Captain Jack sparrow is full of lies ;-)
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"I'll do it with my magic!" Tellah-Final Fantasy 4
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 2:52:32 PM | message detail
Actually, I tell the truth quite often, and yet people are always surprised.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2006 2:58:01 PM | message detail
I forgot how Luigi and Yoshi both destroy Pac-Man, so yeah, Peach wins that one easily..
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“Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2006 2:59:02 PM | message detail
oh, and as for those 1-Up sounds, he's not really referring to NSMB, he's referring to a certain joke that involves Peach.
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“Back in my day we used to actually play our videogames instead of watching them.” - Vivi0198 | Z1mZum owned me
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 2:59:14 PM | message detail
Peach is in no way comparable to Yoshi and Luigi.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/4/2006 3:09:00 PM | message detail
Toad would double Peach.
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Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues
I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin
CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 3:11:19 PM | message detail
From Tequilla Gundam Posted 8/4/2006 5:09:00 PM
Toad would double Peach.

Toad? No way. Toad is the most annoying of the two.
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4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest
FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/4/2006 3:12:20 PM | message detail
I know everyone's fought about Peach for long enough, but she isn't going to bomb in this contest. How many Zelda fans do you see running around proclaiming their love for her? She's done so little compared to what Peach has; sure she might be cooler, but through the Paper Mario's and her own video game (that has to count for something) she isn't going to completely fail. I also know this argument has been said enough times, but I just want it on the record that I'm in the Peach Support camp, too.
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Revenge is a dish best served by Z1mZum in the 2k6 Series Guru Contest.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 3:19:28 PM | message detail
her own video game (that has to count for something)

Yeah, around 150,000 sales shows just how popular the concept was. Of course, there were probably quite a few people who would be embarrassed even to buy the game.

And I know a lot of people who like Sheik. Besides, the majority of Mario's popularity comes from the main series (obviously) where, aside from SMB2, Peach is hardly anywhere to be seen except at the very end. She probably gets some help from Mario RPG as well, but I don't think it'd be enough.

I've stated before that Sheik being a part of the second biggest game on the site accounts for a lot. After all, the most popular game on the site brings instant popularity to those who have nothing else to their names.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/4/2006 3:20:09 PM | message detail
From Tequilla Gundam Posted 8/4/2006 6:09:00 PM #020
Toad would double Peach.

LOL

~*ST*~
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PWNED BY Z1mZum in the Guru Contest! Congrats!
Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), Fire Emblem 8
ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 3:26:07 PM | message detail
Why all the peach hate?

Peach would easily be top ten among the female characters.


Of course thats not really saying much.
Who Cares? | Posted 8/4/2006 3:29:38 PM | message detail
Hmm, something I been thinking about recently, since we'll only have like 1 or 2 new females that would break 23% on Base Link, which ones do you think could finish around 23%-18%, which is pretty much the range of KOS-MOS to Terra?

Some names I considered are Celes, Cammy, Lulu, Clarie & Ada Wong (aside from Wesker, RE characters do pretty well for themselves). Maybe Kasumi, Morrigan, one of the FF8 & Chrono gals?
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Noms: Ken, Nightmare, Sub Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden(MGS), Knuckles, Sora
Chun-Li, Morrigan, Sheena, Cammy, Presea, Talim, Ayane
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 3:35:02 PM | message detail
Peach would easily be top ten among the female characters.

No.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
therealmnm | Posted 8/4/2006 3:46:25 PM | message detail
I know everyone's fought about Peach for long enough, but she isn't going to bomb in this contest. How many Zelda fans do you see running around proclaiming their love for her? She's done so little compared to what Peach has; sure she might be cooler, but through the Paper Mario's and her own video game (that has to count for something) she isn't going to completely fail. I also know this argument has been said enough times, but I just want it on the record that I'm in the Peach Support camp, too.

This topic is simply against considering that Peach may have any kind of strength. I personally think SMB2, SMRPG, and Mario Kart alone are enough to get her votes over someone non-Nintendo that isn't stronger than a mid-carder. Not to mention how long she's been around. I already say that Pac-Man is her floor. I definitely don't see him being stronger than Peach. After that, there's not that much space between Pac-Man and Chun-Li. I don't see why it's so ludicrous to think that Peach is around that strength.
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Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 3:51:34 PM | message detail
Toad would probably beat Peach. Maybe not by a doubling... but I don't think Peach wins that match.

And as for Peach being top 10... well, I'm going to take my female nomination guess-sheet (from http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=29670256&message=324664186) and try to figure who I'd take over her without giving it too much thought.

1. Samus
2. Zelda
3. Tifa Lockheart
4. Rikku
5. Chun Li
6. Yuna
7. KOS-MOS
8. Terra
11. Jill Valentine
13. Aeris Gainsborough
15. Cortana
16. Quistis
18. Sheena Fujibayashi
19. Celes
22. Rinoa
23. Morrigan
25. Cammy
28. The Boss
30. Kairi
32. Yuffie

Holy crap... that's pretty horrible. And I'd struggle with a few more on my list, too. But looking at it... I don't think the female half is necessarily that horrible. Few elites... but there's a decent amount of low midcarders in there that could at least break the fodder line.

Go participate in said topic! Search for Guess the Nominees
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 3:52:45 PM | message detail
Cortana?!

Lopen, turn the Halo hypedrive off.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 3:54:09 PM | message detail
I learned my lesson about Halo during this last contest. Cortana > Peach wouldn't happen.
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4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 3:55:54 PM | message detail
... Cortana is not beating Peach. Good sweet mercy.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 3:56:39 PM | message detail
Cortana isn't even making the contest for that matter.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 3:57:09 PM | message detail
The Halo fanbase seems to like Cortana from my experience with it. I'd consider taking Cortana over Arbiter... I don't think she'd be total fodder.
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.
Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 3:57:56 PM | message detail
It's interesting that Cortana is the only one that I'm met with fierce arguments for, though...
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 3:58:30 PM | message detail
But it's...Cortana. I doubt the Halo fanbase cares about much more than Master Chief, and maybe Arbiter. She won't even make the contest anyway.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 3:58:40 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd be surprised to see Cortana in the contest.
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4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 3:59:15 PM | message detail
It's interesting that Cortana is the only one that I'm met with fierce arguments for, though...

Because she's probably the weakest of the ones you listed and you have a penchant for overestimating Halo.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Janus5000 | Posted 8/4/2006 3:59:39 PM | message detail
Huh, didn't think of this earlier:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2013
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2080

Near identical performances against Bowser, and we all know how Ocelot/Pac-Man turned out. If people think Peach would be above Pac-Man...

And, uh... Kairi?
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Those who are ordinary gurus decide nothing. Z1mZum decides everything. Including my nominating Toadette.
Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:01:41 PM | message detail
Kairi is a lock to make the female bracket in my mind.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:02:20 PM | message detail
Well, people think that Ocelot likely underperformed against Pac-Man because he actually looked stronger than Kefka in the Villains Contest.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:02:58 PM | message detail
Yeah, there's others on the list that I wouldn't agree with either, but some are tough calls and I'd have to think about it.
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4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest
Lopen | Posted 8/4/2006 4:05:19 PM | message detail
I don't see why people are doubting Cortana getting into the bracket. Hardcore Halo fans... that's the only thing they have to think of for the female half! MC always gets a 3+ seed, Cortana can at least scrounge up a 6 seed in the weaker nomination field.
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:06:15 PM | message detail
Hardcore Halo fans...

Don't care about any character besides Master Chief.

And Halo fans DO play other games.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
ccbfan | Posted 8/4/2006 4:07:32 PM | message detail
Peach would easily be top ten among the female characters.

No.



Who are those ten then?

The only ones I can say are definites are
Samus
Tifa
Aeris
Zelda
Chun li

Who else could beat her?

The ff10 chicks are general hated on this site and is nowhere near the FF7 chicks.

Other than Quistis FF8 chicks are even more hated.

FF4, FF6, FF9 characters has too small of a fanbase to really do anything. (The stupid hand beating Kuja should be proof enough)

Then you go with other RPGs where KOSMOS is the only one with decent strength expect she's been on a downward spiral for years.

We know how non-snake MSG characters perform.

Peach is easily the 3rd most popular female Nintendo character.

The only place where I can think of someone sneaking in ahead of peach is the RE chicks but thats not enough to keep Peach out of the top ten.
Draco1214 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:08:01 PM | message detail
I actually wouldn't be surprise if Cortana made the bracket...

...as an 8 seed, at best. Stuck facing one of the Samus/Zelda/Tifa/Aeris powerhouses.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 8/4/2006 4:08:20 PM | message detail
She's nonplayable, and isn't particularly memorable, anyways. I don't know, maybe she'll get in but with a REALLY low seed. 6 maximum, but I'd still say 7/8
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4th Place of the Fall 2005 10-Year Anniversary Contest
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/4/2006 4:08:47 PM | message detail
The ff10 chicks are general hated on this site and is nowhere near the FF7 chicks.

... What? Yuna, Rikku, and Lulu would have no trouble beating Peach. Two of them have already proven to be pretty strong -- the entire FFX cast tends to be around the same general area in strength.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/4/2006 4:09:10 PM | message detail
Yuna and Rikku are both decent midcarders and would beat Chun Li. So if you would take Chun Li over Peach why aren't you taking them? Yuffie would beat Peach easily as well.
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Z1mZum owned me in the Guru Contest with his mad skills!
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/4/2006 4:09:14 PM | message detail
Yuna
Rikku
Yuffie
Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield

There's at least 10.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow