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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 341

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 2:25:14 AM | message detail
Yoshi and Knux aren't anything to write home about, but they're stronger than 3/4ths of the field. FF7's fan-favorite in Vincent made the Elite Eight. FF6 is no FF7, but it's Super Six. Kefka might as well be fodder.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 2:25:25 AM | message detail
Nothing makes me happier than seeing the stats topic explode into a debate about whether or not Peach will be strong. I love this. Go Peach! :)

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/3/2006 2:25:41 AM | message detail
Like you said (and this is more realistic of FF6's possition) he's the fan favorite. What have we learned about fan favorites? (ex: Yoshi, Knux)

Don't forget about Vincent, Auron, Vivi, and Zero!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:26:00 AM | message detail
"You're not going to find an 8 seed that can give Crono, Mega Man, Sonic, or Snake a decent match."

Look at Vincent's seeding in 2k5...
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 2:26:17 AM | message detail
The reason I didn't nominate Jay is because Link or Cloud is likely not in the main bracket. Without Clink, the chances of Jay breaking the all time futility record isn't a sure thing.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:27:09 AM | message detail
"No it doesn't. It's just picking a weird villain that helps your cause"

Give it up, dude. I never seriously meant to say that the proportions would hold to a T. Just give it the **** up.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:27:50 AM | message detail
"Yoshi and Knux aren't anything to write home about, but they're stronger than 3/4ths of the field."

And their respective heroes are greater than 90% of the field.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:27:52 AM | message detail
He was a 5 seed?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 2:28:16 AM | message detail
For the last time MoH, Jay going up against someone like Cloud would ensure that he wouldn't break the record. The big boys get anti-voted.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:29:13 AM | message detail
"Don't forget about Vincent, Auron, Vivi, and Zero!"

And yet none of the, except possibly Vivi, could ever hope to beat their leads.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:29:27 AM | message detail
:P
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 2:29:33 AM | message detail
That is true, I forgot about the FF anti-voters. Meh, I still have a spot left, maybe I'll nominate him.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:30:09 AM | message detail
And yet none of the, except possibly Vivi, could ever hope to beat their leads.


You really think Auron can't even hope to beat Tidus?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/3/2006 2:30:20 AM | message detail
I highly doubt they get anti-voted THAT much KH. >.>

But if Snake can do that to Tanner, I'm sure someone like Sonic or Megaman could do it to Jay.
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Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 2:30:50 AM | message detail
If you weren't trying to say proportions held, you'd have just cut the comparisons you were telling me to do and just conceded that long ago.

You're telling me to give it up when you were clearly wrong? That's rich.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:30:59 AM | message detail
"He was a 5 seed?"

Yes. And if you cut the field in half and throw out Mario and the 4 girls that rated a 4 or better you have 5 seeds being 7-8 seeds. I hope you don't mean to say Vincent couldn't give those pun-ass *****es a real fight.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 2:31:45 AM | message detail
Mega Man appears to be relatively anti-proof.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:32:12 AM | message detail
"You really think Auron can't even hope to beat Tidus?"

I forgot the :P, but I threw it in on the next post. :) Yes, post HK2 I think he can (and would). Pre-KH2, probably not.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 2:32:21 AM | message detail
Mega Man is the best person for the job. The way he just decimates fodder, a low amount of anti-votes, universally known, that sort of thing. Snake works that way, too. People like Mario and Sonic get too many anti-votes, while people like Samus and Crono just aren't well known enough.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:33:06 AM | message detail
Yes. And if you cut the field in half and throw out Mario and the 4 girls that rated a 4 or better you have 5 seeds being 7-8 seeds. I hope you don't mean to say Vincent couldn't give those pun-ass *****es a real fight.


He'd still just lose first round, though. Personally I'd rather see Phoenix get in the contest and lose 92 - 8 to Mega Man than Vincent get in the same spot and lose 55 - 45 or whatever he's projected to do.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:34:47 AM | message detail
"you'd have just cut the comparisons you were telling me to do and just conceded that long ago."

I did conceede it long ago, before the conversation came up really, but even still I said numerous times that I wasn't trying to say proportions held. As far as not having you do the comparisons, wellm what would be the fun in that?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:35:59 AM | message detail
"He'd still just lose first round, though"

The statement indicated that no 7-8 seed could put up a fight, that was false and I proved it.
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Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 2:36:13 AM | message detail
Well I've gotta admit the comparisons were fun. Seeing how much Terra failed expectations just doesn't get old.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:37:27 AM | message detail
Oh, and does that also mean you'd rathre have PW in to lose miserably than see other strong characters like Bowser and Squall? Becasue I tell ya what, Vincent's rigth there with 'em.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:37:31 AM | message detail
The statement indicated that no 7-8 seed could put up a fight, that was false and I proved it.


Touche.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:38:29 AM | message detail
"Well I've gotta admit the comparisons were fun."

And that's all they were meant to be. that's also why I said *I* should do them. Because I thought it was fun. You saved me the trouble.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 2:38:52 AM | message detail
There is no way Jay Solano takes 5.7% on Mega Man. But I won't be satisfied with that. It'd have to be like 97-3 for it to be really funny. Hell go for 99-1 lmao. But I worry the pity votes.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:41:57 AM | message detail
"Touche."

That reminds me of those Mac ads, where the condescending d-bag Mac says the PC guy didn't make a point. That'd sooooo be my role right now if we were in that ad.

God, could you people imagine me if I owned a Mac? LOL.
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/3/2006 2:42:07 AM | message detail
What's up with all the Jay hate?

Any character would break 90% on Jay. Most of us who nominated him will antivote him, he's on a N-Gage exckusive game which hasn't got any great reviews, and to top it all Jay look would lose the pic voters to John Madden.

If Jay gets more than 5000 votes, I would be very surprised.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:42:44 AM | message detail
I like the Mac guy. Too bad he has to die ;_;
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:43:25 AM | message detail
Oh, and what makes "Mac" a condescending d-bag is that, you know, "PC" actually did make a point. Then the counter point is "I do that and more". So not only do potential Mac owners now thing they have to be *******s to own one, but also that they have to be stupid.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 2:44:49 AM | message detail
I still like that the Mac guy calls the PC unfun, in spite of the Mac's ability to play KotOR, Halo 1, Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft, and the game based off the Cars movie.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:45:47 AM | message detail
"I like the Mac guy."

Barring that commercial I do as well. But that's mostly because he represents, to me, exactly how a Mac user would act... "greater than thou"
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 2:45:54 AM | message detail
Who knows, maybe board-8 will anti-vote the anti-jay voters... =p
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 2:47:43 AM | message detail
B8 will not vote for Jay, should he make the contest. That's the exact opposite reason of why we wanted him in to begin with.

Either way, point still stands, there's a good 10-15 chances of finding an adequate substitue in the bracket as it is.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 3:06:42 AM | message detail
There seems to be quite a few people opposed to nominating fodders, perhaps they'll vote for Jay just to spite the rallying... I know, not enough of them to really make a difference though.

Whoa Azp2k32, you have shadow beating both Squall and Vincent... interesting.
MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/3/2006 3:10:51 AM | message detail
I just tried to make a 32 male bracket and realized how tough it's going to be to make the cut. Considering the large rallys for Captain Falcon, PoP, Nightmare, PW, Jay, Raiden, and Sub-Zero... I really think some people like Alucard and Frog are going to miss the cut if it is indeed 32 males.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 3:13:42 AM | message detail
We just have to hope it is 48-16, with the female side taking up only 1 division.
consolefreak | Posted 8/3/2006 4:37:23 AM | message detail
He'd still just lose first round, though. Personally I'd rather see Phoenix get in the contest and lose 92 - 8 to Mega Man than Vincent get in the same spot and lose 55 - 45 or whatever he's projected to do.

Well that's nice. Since that contest, he'll be having Dirge of Cerberus , Advent Children and KH2. He's projected to lose with 45.85% based on the previous contest, btw.

I can't fathom how you could prefer uberfodder (yet with a fanbase strong enough not to be breaking any records, like you suggested with the 92-8 prediction) getting his ass blown out over a chance at one of the biggest upsets ever, and the possible end of the noble nine..

Trust me, even if I don't see Vincent winning, he would easily break 45%.

Regardless though, if Vincent would have an amount of nominations that would warrant an 8-seed, Cjay will probably boost him some anyway.

I just find it sad that someone with the contest potential of Phoenix Wright may be taking a spot over someone like Leon Kennedy or Tidus.

What's so exciting about your favourite (or one of) characters losing in humiliating fashion anyway?

And if you're nominating Phoenix as a joke character, I seriously think there's enough of those already with CATS and Jay Solano.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/3/2006 5:46:03 AM | message detail
*wakes up*
Wow, to think a discussion on a Peach/Chun-Li match would explode into all this! Now I really wanna see Ceej set that match up! :)
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/3/2006 7:52:14 AM | message detail
Peach/Chun Li would be a great match, but in the end I'd probably pick Peach to win.
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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/3/2006 8:00:53 AM | message detail
Chun Li has bigger boobs, she wins.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 8/3/2006 8:08:33 AM | message detail
There's more to the contest than exciting matches. It's about seeing your favorite character represented and watching how that character performs. Sure, it may not escape fodder level, but just getting your favorite character in and having him or her even have the potential to surprise some people and pull off something no one expected makes the whole thing worth it.

It's not like we have many surprises left from the current entrants we've been having, so we might as well nominate apparent fodder and be surprised when they shock everyone and actually beat someone like Kefka.

Now that I think about it, I'd be shocked if Phoenix Wright doesn't escape being doubled by Kefka, especially if it's Lettuce Kefka.
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Osfan | Posted 8/3/2006 8:19:54 AM | message detail
And if you're nominating Phoenix as a joke character, I seriously think there's enough of those already with CATS and Jay Solano.

the thing with that though is how Jay cant win a match it will never happen given the right circumstance CATS may one day pull the upset he just needs a good seed or a weak hi seed (IE Loyd's #2)
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Big Bob | Posted 8/3/2006 8:26:44 AM | message detail
CATS > Lloyd? Iunno about that one..
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Osfan | Posted 8/3/2006 8:29:37 AM | message detail
CATS > Lloyd? Iunno about that one..

and thats the point Jay/Lloyd is a joke CATS/Lloyd is at least a discussion im just saying CATS is more like reg tournament fodder then joke character fodder ;-)

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consolefreak | Posted 8/3/2006 8:42:14 AM | message detail
the thing with that though is how Jay cant win a match it will never happen given the right circumstance CATS may one day pull the upset he just needs a good seed or a weak hi seed (IE Loyd's #2)

I think the chance he got in the villain contest is about as much of a chance as he'll ever get.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/3/2006 9:05:05 AM | message detail
Nothing makes me happier to be back talking about characters again!

Speaking of which, Dante > Kirby in SC2K6! Vincent clearly Reverse Badass Factor'd Dante last year. I know Lopen's with me, so who else!?

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ExplicitAriel | Posted 8/3/2006 9:06:20 AM | message detail
I was totally supposed to make that post with this account. ;_;

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Osfan | Posted 8/3/2006 9:11:41 AM | message detail
no way dante beats kirby wont happen ill vote dante but wont happen i mean we are talking FF7 versus Devil May Cry. Dante doesnt have enough bad*** in him to pull that off. He might make it interesting mybe break 43 but id say 40 is as high as he gets on Kirby
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