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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 12:10:11 AM | message detail
Peach is so screwed.

lolcwuti-*gets shot*



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



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bobby200614 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:10:34 AM | message detail
1st?
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I ate my family because Z1mZum owned me so hard in the Guru Contest.
Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:11:16 AM | message detail
Jill Valentine > Peach.

You heard it here first!
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:25:48 AM | message detail
Yeah, Peach sucks.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:26:47 AM | message detail
Lulu > Peach, yo.

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
Janus5000 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:30:45 AM | message detail
"I'm lightning in a bottle!"
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Those who are ordinary gurus decide nothing. Z1mZum decides everything. Including my nominating Toadette.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/3/2006 12:32:15 AM | message detail
Tron Bonne > The Other Females
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:34:19 AM | message detail
Kid > Tron Bonne!!

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The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now.
bobby200614 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:35:19 AM | message detail
Toadette > Kid
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I ate my family because Z1mZum owned me so hard in the Guru Contest.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/3/2006 12:36:20 AM | message detail
Tron Bonne > Kid > Lucrecia
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
creativename | Posted 8/3/2006 1:02:35 AM | message detail
I still don't get how 20 pages were spent discussing Peach, of all people.

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 1:03:50 AM | message detail
Because SSBM means she can beat anyone!
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:12:15 AM | message detail
Ha, I closed your topic.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:13:00 AM | message detail
"Heh, I think that PS2 RE will have enough of an effect to increase his nominations quite substantially."

I think a year of not doing squat works to undo that entirely. Wouldn't be surprised if he got a lower seed considering there's no nomination rally to save his ass.
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 1:13:02 AM | message detail
Wow, it's like we hit 500 and we didn't even realize it!

On topic, I'm also doubting that Leon Kennedy gets in this year. After all, he got a lot of support by being a Nomination Rally winner last year.
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Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 1:13:17 AM | message detail
Are people really thinking the PS2 port will do more for Leon than DMC3 did for Dante? That Leon could put the fear in Vincent? If you want to take Leon over Dante, be my guest. I would struggle with Leon/Tidus, honestly.
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Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.
Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 1:13:44 AM | message detail
That was awesome... a 500 post that wasn't taken by a random "LOL 500!", but by... discussion!?

Best stats topic in a long time, man! The strength of random tangents and debates are flowing through us!
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:14:53 AM | message detail
"Because SSBM means she can beat anyone!"

Ever seen Ness in action? Any reason why he's an ungodly distance away from his game? Hmm... SSB, perhaps. Same goes for Samus and Kirby, too. Their games suck it up (no pun intended for Kirby) in contests yet they're both reasonably powerful. Oh where, oh where could that come from?!
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:16:12 AM | message detail
"I would struggle with Leon/Tidus, honestly."

I wouldn't, I'd just take Tidus. I've yet to lose a single point on the punk, either. He's a friggin' gold mine for me.
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 1:17:17 AM | message detail
From Lopen Posted 8/3/2006 4:13:44 AM #017
That was awesome... a 500 post that wasn't taken by a random "LOL 500!", but by... discussion!?

Best stats topic in a long time, man! The strength of random tangents and debates are flowing through us!


And people are doing it nicely, which is strange.

The stats topic has moved unusually fast today.

~*ST*~
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PWNED BY Z1mZum in the Guru Contest! Congrats!
Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), Fire Emblem 8
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:17:33 AM | message detail
That was awesome... a 500 post that wasn't taken by a random "LOL 500!", but by... discussion!?


^_^ That's the Moogle effect (TM)
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 1:17:45 AM | message detail
If Peach ends up beating someone like Rikku or Yuna, Snake is going to be a ****ing monster after SSBB. Because that would mean that game can do ANYTHING.
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Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/3/2006 1:18:00 AM | message detail
Meh, that stat project had too much Peach discussion for my taste >_>
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:18:06 AM | message detail
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:18:40 AM | message detail
"And people are doing it nicely, which is strange."

Well, I'm being overly sarcastic (which people sometimes feel is rude), but whatever. :)
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 1:19:01 AM | message detail
From longbladeofhiko Posted 8/3/2006 4:18:00 AM #023
Meh, that stat project had too much Peach discussion for my taste >_>

*loads shotgun*

Seriously boo :(

;'(

~*ST*~
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PWNED BY Z1mZum in the Guru Contest! Congrats!
Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), Fire Emblem 8
Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:19:16 AM | message detail
Damn, forgot to include the rest:

Ness (2005c) VS Earthbound (2004g)

Ness has a strength of 20.53.
Earthbound has a strength of 20.32.

Ness wins with 50.51% of the vote!
A win of 897 with 87,707 total votes cast.
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest
LegendarySnake | Posted 8/3/2006 1:19:44 AM | message detail
Ever seen Ness in action? Any reason why he's an ungodly distance away from his game? Hmm... SSB, perhaps. Same goes for Samus and Kirby, too. Their games suck it up (no pun intended for Kirby) in contests yet they're both reasonably powerful. Oh where, oh where could that come from?!

Oh, I'm not doubting SSBM has influence. I just think it's ridiculous when it gets to the point where people start taking characters JUST because of the game. There's more to it than that.
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Did you say "nerd?" - Raiden
No, you idiot. What are you, twelve? That's the worst attempt at humor ever. - The Colonel
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:20:12 AM | message detail
I guess I missed the part where Ulti became a huge Peach fan ;>_>

Not a bad choice, I just didn't realise until... today.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/3/2006 1:21:19 AM | message detail
I guess I missed the part where Ulti became a huge Peach fan ;>_>

ST = Smash Turnip

But yeah, I was surprised when I found out Peach had fans, too.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:21:59 AM | message detail
Draco, do consider it's quite impossible to extrapolate that without just making up a number. I mean, what's that based on, OoT = Link? FF7 = Cloud? Earthbound = Ness? Whatever it is, it's completely arbitrary and doesn't convey the idea that Ness scores 25~ on his contests champion while Earthbound looked as pitiful as Ryo Hazuki when compared to its champion (and also scored in the same range as Shen Mue, to boot, making him eerily the closest thing I'd consider to be a direct comparison).
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/3/2006 1:22:14 AM | message detail
I was actually joking. I meant to say uhh..too much Sephiroth discussion! Yeah, there ya go!

:D
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you?
Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/3/2006 1:22:14 AM | message detail
Predict It!

Peach
Pikachu

Mewtwo
Marth
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Pity for the Gurus is treason to Z1mZum.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:22:15 AM | message detail
So, um, off topic, but... can Tingle be next year's joke character?

Or Waluigi? I'm just really curious to see how a hated character from a super popular series does, and considering that Zolom seems to be out, we don't get that this year (Although I guess Zolom's point was that he was unknown, not hated.)
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:22:24 AM | message detail
...What in the world did Aeris do in KHII? She wasn't even involved in the Cloud plotline, other than one brief conversation.

Your order is...definitely unique. The fact that you have Aerith above Auron is strange to say the least. I can understand the others, but Aerith? ... Yeah. I would say Auron is much higher up in the rankings for the vast majority of people who played KH2.

Ha, I actually chuckled at the both of those. Yeah, I liked Aeris (bite me official verson of the game) more than Auron...I guess just because he was uninspiring. And come on, you know you laughed when she shot Squall that, "I'll kill you," look. That said, I haven't played X yet and am working on VII, so maybe that has something to do with it.

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Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:23:01 AM | message detail
I realize that, and I know Ness gets most of his strength from SSB/M, I just thought it was pretty funny to see nonetheless.
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:23:22 AM | message detail
Predict It!

Peach
Pikachu

Mewtwo
Marth




Mewtwo > Peach with absolutely no confidence.

I'm confident about the first round of it, though.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:23:34 AM | message detail
Oh, and I'm highly inclined to believe that Ness was underadjusted, considering he was behind Aruon/Seph AND Seph/Cloud in 2k4.
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:24:46 AM | message detail
If Peach ends up beating someone like Rikku or Yuna, Snake is going to be a ****ing monster after SSBB. Because that would mean that game can do ANYTHING.

Well, to be fair, and I'm going to have to go search through all the peach discussion since I skipped it, Peach could have had plenty of strength before Smash. Hm, maybe that's where Zelda's comes from, that would be something.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:25:04 AM | message detail
I hope Ness gets in this year for the sole reason that we really need to get an accurate reading on where he stands.
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Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac
Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:25:23 AM | message detail
" just think it's ridiculous when it gets to the point where people start taking characters JUST because of the game."

Why? Everything indicates that Samus, Kirby, and Ness have gained from it drastically. Why should another weakling, let's say Peach, wouldn't do the same? I'm not saying she's a powerhouse, but I also don't see her failing to crack a good 23% give or take.
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 1:25:36 AM | message detail
I'm really not in the mood to entertain joke characters whose sole purpose will be to test exactly how far blind NintendoFAQs will go. We already had Master Hand, and we're nominating Toadette this year.
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Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 1:26:30 AM | message detail
I've been a Peach fan my entire life, ever since Mario 2. When I do bother playing Mario Kart, I use her. She was awesome in Kart 64.

And then... SSBM godliness. She's the anti-advanced tactic. Go ahead, I dare you to wavedash against Peach. 60 damage, I follow up and you die. Go ahead, crouch cancel. 60 damage, I follow up and you die. Go ahead, be defensive because you're afraid to come near me. I have more gamer patience than you do; I beat the Calc SCC. I can out-projectile, out-defense, and out-annoy you. Go ahead, be a pro in the air. Only the disjointed hitboxes of the four swordsman and Shiek's airs stand a chance against her float canceling cheese. And this doesn't even factor in her randomly getting swords, bombs, and smash turnips that I can catch out of the air.

I piss off everyone I play against when I go all-out with Peach. Ask ExTha or Swift about it. You can know what's coming and exactly what to do to counter it, yet still get your ass whipped by my annoying patience and defense. And my ass. Peach's ass is the best ass in gaming by a mile, except for maybe Raiden.

And yes, I bought Super Princess Peach. How could I not? I grew up with her every bit as much as Mario and Link. She owns.

~*ST*~
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PWNED BY Z1mZum in the Guru Contest! Congrats!
Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), Fire Emblem 8
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:26:34 AM | message detail
Ooo, right, Toadette. Good point.


I'm happy this upcoming contest is my first Guru contest, because I would not want to spend a slot of Toadette.
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Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)
Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 1:26:40 AM | message detail
Draco, do consider it's quite impossible to extrapolate that without just making up a number. I mean, what's that based on, OoT = Link? FF7 = Cloud? Earthbound = Ness?

What are you comparing it to, then? I don't see how Ness is leagues away from Earthbound in any case. Earthbound didn't do too impressively, and neither does Ness.
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Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/3/2006 1:26:55 AM | message detail

The stats topic has moved unusually fast today.


I take full credit for this due to the fact that I'm posting here now and wasn't before.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 1:27:27 AM | message detail
Ness managed a 4 seed last year, he should at least rate a 7 this year.
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Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass.
Detective in Sir Chris' Police
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 1:27:31 AM | message detail
Everything indicates that Samus, Kirby, and Ness have gained from it drastically.

Out of curiosity, where would you peg those three to be without SSB?
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Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/3/2006 1:28:08 AM | message detail
And come on, you know you laughed when she shot Squall that, "I'll kill you," look.

When was this? I hardly remember it. Though I've only played through KHII once and that was a while ago.

Once again, Zelda is a world of difference compared to Peach. If it hadn't been for Sheik, I'm confident Zelda wouldn't be much of anything.

"But it's only one game!"

Funny, Link's primary rivals excel at the "It's only one game!" thing.
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"...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 1:28:12 AM | message detail
I take full credit for this due to the fact that I'm posting here now and wasn't before.


My 500th post proves that it's me posting here now and not before that's doing it.
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php
Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female)