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| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/2/2006 11:51:23 PM | message detail |
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Zero got hit with the touch of SFF, little doubt of that to me. But I think post-KH2 Auron will pass Zero's 2k4 value. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 11:52:06 PM | message detail |
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You keep telling yourself that, Tequilla. --- Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 11:52:22 PM | message detail |
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"but in a close match, I'll side with the Square character." I used to hear people say that in Square vs. Nintendo matches, too.......... --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Lopen | Posted 8/2/2006 11:53:04 PM | message detail |
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...Anger...rising. His name is NOT "Tie-dus." A Tidus fan who likes the "Tee-dus" pronunciation more!? Blasphemy. Oh, and I take Zero. Zero probably did get a lil SFF against Mario last year. Like Chich said, look at Link/Mega Man! KH2 boost makes it a bit tougher, though. --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| BeTheMan | Posted 8/2/2006 11:54:36 PM | message detail |
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Square might not trump Nintendo these days, but I'm fairly confident that it has Capcom beat. --- ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO Z1mZum FOR ROCKING THE GURU WORLD |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/2/2006 11:55:13 PM | message detail |
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FF05, we're you floored by Sephiroth or "Leon" in KH1? Sephiroth absolutely, because of the boss fight. And I think I see where you're going with the "only having the dark mysterious past" factor with the Leon/Auron comparison, but Squall's a presence throughout most of the game, they do explain, granted briefly, the reason for his name change/unhappiness. Yeah, the coliseum was also a stage with rooms and what not and Auron can fight with you, but I spent a lot more of my time in the actual tournament. (on a related btw, the very last coliseum tournament caught me by complete surprise, between actually beating the game and actually beating the game with everything it took another twenty hours) Oh, and I agree him being more than a cameo helps Leon, he just wasn't my favorite FF character in the game. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 11:55:32 PM | message detail |
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KH2 makes it tougher, but I severely doubt KH2 had the same effect on
characters as KH1 did. If it did, we'd have to give Cloud a legitimate
shot at Link and do you think anyone is doing that? --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/2/2006 11:57:23 PM | message detail |
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KH2 makes it tougher, but I severely doubt KH2 had the same effect
on characters as KH1 did. If it did, we'd have to give Cloud a
legitimate shot at Link and do you think anyone is doing that? I don't think it'll have much effect on the characters who got the KH1 boost, but for newcomers like Auron, Vivi, and Seifer it'll be good. --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female) |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/2/2006 11:58:31 PM | message detail |
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FastFalcon, I think you're in the minority. The Colisseum wasn't quite
as open to players due to the annoying point system; it wasn't simple
like KH 1's Colisseum was. --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/2/2006 11:58:41 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I'm taking Cloud over Link, despite the fact that I think it won't
happen...a virtual impossibility is not the same as an actual
impossibility! Auron has never been in a KH game, so if people are actually right about it being in the game that matters, we could see something similar to the original KHF for him. It's hard to gauge because we never saw him in 2k2, naturally. And as far as I'm concerned, Tidus has never had a reliable value until 2k4. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 11:58:57 PM | message detail |
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"but Squall's a presence throughout most of the game" Which means he damn well should have seen much better gains than Auron. If you account for the SFF from his Snake match, I don't think he actually gained that much. Plus, KH1 caused an entire demographic shift that has since been undone and not redone by KH2. Auron does not not stand to gain nearly as much as ANY character that appread in KH1 did from 2k2 to 2k3. I think he gains less from KH2 then Aeris gained from KH1 simply because the demographic hasn't been shifted in FF's favor this time. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 11:58:57 PM | message detail |
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A Tidus fan who likes the "Tee-dus" pronunciation more!? Blasphemy. I generally prefer being correct, so yes. And I can't see KHII helping Vivi at all. I mean, his role is even smaller than Tidus's was. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 11:59:08 PM | message detail |
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If it did, we'd have to give Cloud a legitimate shot at Link and do you think anyone is doing that? Cloud does have Advent Children. >> --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:01:03 AM | message detail |
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And I can't see KHII helping Vivi at all. I mean, his role is even smaller than Tidus's was. Tidus didn't do anything. He was an optional battle. Vivi was at least required, even if it wasn't totally him. And he had other appearances with the Seifer gang. Tidus was just... there in KH1. --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female) |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 12:01:57 AM | message detail |
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Squall and Cloud's gains can be disputed due to iffy matches in
2k2...but not Sephiroth. 2k2 Sephy's change to 2k3 cannot be denied. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 12:02:26 AM | message detail |
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" we could see something similar to the original KHF for him." No, we can't. When KH1 came along it completely shifted the focus of the voter pool. KH2 didn't do that. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 12:03:13 AM | message detail |
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I generally prefer being correct, so yes. That was a American-spelling->Japanese-pronunciation error, clearly. Tie-dus is canon now, deal with it, baby! --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/3/2006 12:03:43 AM | message detail |
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That was one HELL of a boss fight, KH. I remember the hype shooting up
for the game after people learned that Sephiroth was an optional boss.
KH's early hatred was largely erased due to that surprise. --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 12:04:01 AM | message detail |
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Hey, I agree with you about the shifting focus of the voter pool,
Chichiri. The thing is, as evidenced by a few topics ago, most
disagree. They think it is the role itself that matters. Which is why under that "If ____, then ____" scenario, it's foolish to not expect a massive boost from Auron. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:04:23 AM | message detail |
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And Auron's role in KH2 was awesome. Before even buying
the game, I was anxious to see the area that Auron was in. The fact
that he joined your party, had his Limit Breaks, and was extremely
cool every time he had screentime is enough to make him easily the best
new character and only behind Leon as far as FF cameos go in the game.
Everyone loved him, too, from what I saw of the KH2 board. --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 8/3/2006 12:05:14 AM | message detail |
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I just remembered that Yuna and Rikku were in KH2. Boost! No more chances of losing to Chun-Li! --- caps |
| Janus5000 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:05:34 AM | message detail |
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"Thanks for meddling." --- Those who are ordinary gurus decide nothing. Z1mZum decides everything. Including my nominating Toadette. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:05:40 AM | message detail |
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Tie-dus is canon now, deal with it, baby! You know, anything Final Fantasy in the world of Kingdom Hearts isn't actually canon. And I'd trust Wakka long before I'd trust a dimwit like Selphie. She said she doesn't even feel like she knows them anymore, which means she's clearly forgotten how to pronounce his name! --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 12:06:21 AM | message detail |
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"They think it is the role itself that matters." Then he gets less of a boost than Dante got from DMC3. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:06:29 AM | message detail |
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You know, anything Final Fantasy in the world of Kingdom Hearts isn't actually canon. So then the official pronounciation of Tidus is ..., huh? --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php Please nominate K. K. Slider (Animal Crossing) (Male) and Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (Female) |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:06:52 AM | message detail |
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Tee-dus > Tie-dus. And I love Yuna, but her role in KH2 sucked something hard. >> --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 12:07:12 AM | message detail |
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Squall and Cloud's gains can be disputed due to iffy matches in
2k2...but not Sephiroth. 2k2 Sephy's change to 2k3 cannot be denied. Sephiroth could've rSFFed Cloud in the championship match because of bitter Link fans or whatever... Sephiroth 2k4 and 2k5 really aren't all that far away from Sephiroth 2k2. 2k3 just screams Seph overperformance. And I would think Seph would get the most out of the KHF. That boss fight was awesome... I don't care if he had less screentime than Cloud or Squall, he still seemed more important to the game when I think back on it. --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/3/2006 12:07:25 AM | message detail |
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I personally thought Auron surpassed Leon as far as the FF cameos went. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa I jobbed to Z1mZum in the Guru Contest. Did you? |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/3/2006 12:07:45 AM | message detail |
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Auron might be the only thing canon FF wise, on an off topic
observation. His dialogue was word for word with his protests with
Braska and Jecht. He also had pyreflies when he vanished in the credits. --- z1mzum was the one to fill my dark soul with LIIIIGHHHT! |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:09:00 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth 2k4 and 2k5 really aren't all that far away from Sephiroth 2k2. Guess who's stronger in 2004 and 2005 over 2002 and 2003? --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:10:34 AM | message detail |
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So then the official pronounciation of Tidus is ..., huh? No, it sounds more like "Star-player-of-the-Zanarkand-Abes," which sounds oddly similar to "him" or "you." --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 12:11:01 AM | message detail |
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I'm talking with your foolish "2k3 Link adjusted standings", by the
way. Seph 2k2 is only 2% lower than 2k4 and 2k5... whereas Seph 2k3 is
5% higher. --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 12:11:02 AM | message detail |
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Dante (2005c) VS Dante (2004c) Dante has a strength of 32.73. Dante has a strength of 27.33. Dante wins with 58.25% of the vote! A win of 13,620 with 82,555 total votes cast. ...I can handle Auron getting something similar to Dante w/DMC3. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:12:56 AM | message detail |
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I'm talking with your foolish "2k3 Link adjusted standings", by the
way. Seph 2k2 is only 2% lower than 2k4 and 2k5... whereas Seph 2k3 is
5% higher. ... Sephiroth 2k2 is not only 2% lower than Sephiroth 2k5. Sephiroth in 2005 is very similar to Sephiroth in 2003 as far as Base Link goes. --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/3/2006 12:14:02 AM | message detail |
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Fun fact: I had no idea what Auron's role in KH2, so his first appearance floored me. I loved it. ~*ST*~ --- PWNED BY Z1mZum in the Guru Contest! Congrats! Now Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), Fire Emblem 8 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/3/2006 12:14:06 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth (2005c) VS Sephiroth (2003c) Sephiroth has a strength of 49.16. Sephiroth has a strength of 49.71. Sephiroth wins with 50.55% of the vote! A win of 1,095 with 99,011 total votes cast. --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Owned by Z1mZum in the Best. Series. Ever. Guru Contest |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:14:23 AM | message detail |
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Seph 2k2 is only 2% lower than 2k4 and 2k5... whereas Seph 2k3 is 5% higher. Is that so? Sephiroth 2005 - 49.16% against BL Sephiroth 2004 - 45.47% against BL Sephiroth 2003 - 49.71% against BL Sephiroth 2002 - 43.35% against BL I'm guessing you were looking at Sephy's 2005 value against 2005 Link. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Lopen | Posted 8/3/2006 12:14:55 AM | message detail |
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My bad, I misread 2005... but 2004 Sephiroth is. Why would this "Kingdom Hearts Boost" suddenly wane like that? I'm still saying Seph gained 2-3% at the most from KH, and I still say that he's the one who should gain the most from it. The KH factor is way overblown. Oh no... not this again!! --- Z1mZum whooped me so bad in the Guru Contest that the next Lopen wannabe is gonna feel it. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:15:55 AM | message detail |
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Why would this "Kingdom Hearts Boost" suddenly wane like that? I'd wager Cloud probably overperformed on him. Some have suggested bracket voting (which was virtually non-existent in their match in 2003). --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| creativename | Posted 8/3/2006 12:16:08 AM | message detail |
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I don't think it'll have much effect on the characters who got the
KH1 boost, but for newcomers like Auron, Vivi, and Seifer it'll be good. Agreed. If Seifer actually makes the tourney, I think we can assume Auron and Vivi will get some substantial KH2 boosts. Though of course I doubt he makes it. Though up to now I didn't even know Vivi and Seifer were in the game. --- As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/3/2006 12:16:08 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth gets 100% against Link in our heart's, right guys? --- Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 12:16:09 AM | message detail |
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"but 2004 Sephiroth is." He was SFF'd by Cloud that year when he was not in 2k3. It's weird, but it happeend. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:16:30 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth's 2004 value comes from that...odd encounter with Cloud, too. --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| creativename | Posted 8/3/2006 12:17:31 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth could've rSFFed Cloud in the championship match because of
bitter Link fans or whatever... Sephiroth 2k4 and 2k5 really aren't all
that far away from Sephiroth 2k2. 2k3 just screams Seph overperformance. ...you do realize Sephiroth destroyed Mario and Mega Man that year right? --- As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/3/2006 12:18:09 AM | message detail |
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"Sephiroth gets 100% against Link in our heart's, right guys?" In my heart he at least decimates Link (you know, as in to say Link gets 10%), probably even pushing for 95%. He doesn't quite strike 100% and if you asked me 4 years ago Link'd have escaped the doubling. --- Z1mzum kicked my ass in the guru contest, so now I have to kiss his ass. Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/3/2006 12:18:20 AM | message detail |
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Heh, I think you'd regret it. Not only is he simply not strong
enough (and I could just kinda stop right here, really), but he's one
of those characters who wouldn't really have an advantage over Snake in
the sprite round. What is this sprite round you speak of? Is there a round designated for using sprite match pics? Well I'm confident in Ganondorf > Bowser, yes, but this might be stretching a bit too far, even for ZeldaFAQs. A bit far fetched yes, but those things tend to become reality. I see an elite eight that is untouchable by outsiders at the moment, not noble nine as everyone else does. Snake has never even come close to competing with the elite eight. Snake vs. Bowser is all the confirmation I need really, to give Ganondorf a fighting chance. |
| creativename | Posted 8/3/2006 12:19:11 AM | message detail |
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Also, Sephiroth managing to gain a couple points on Link from 2K2 to 2K5 after the Nintendo boost is quite substantial itself. --- As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/3/2006 12:19:11 AM | message detail |
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Cloud/Sephiroth 2k3 had all the things in Sephy's favor going for it.
He had a ton of bracket voters over him (myself included, stupid
Sephy), the irate Link fans, it being a Finals match... ...I don't think he 'overperformed' in the traditional way, but I think he simply avoided the SFF that would later come back to haunt him in 2k4. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/3/2006 12:19:35 AM | message detail |
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Sephiroth gets 100% against Link in our heart's, right guys? More like 85%!! --- The winner begins with Z1m and ends with Zum... This is the truth! This is my belief! ...At least for now. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/3/2006 12:19:54 AM | message detail |
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Eh, he gets 50.01% from me. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |