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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/2/2006 10:30:16 PM | message detail
Oh and I don't understand talk of Bowser > Ganondorf. Zelda is the supreme king of NintendoFAQs. In a close match, where is the SFF more likely to go?

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:30:56 PM | message detail
And anyone taking Bowser > Ganondorf is out of their freaking mind. ZeldaFAQs, ZeldaFAQs, ZeldaFAQs. Get it through your head.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:31:19 PM | message detail
Oh....I'm sorry.

Give me one good performance from a TOS character and downgrade it a little, considering it'd be a female like Sheena or Colette. Now I'm damn sure Collette falls in around last place in most of the fanbase's character rankings, not quite sure on Sheena. Point is, Tron Bonne and the Servbots had such high demand from the MML fanbase they were given a spinoff, and it got some pretty good reviews. Hell, I've heard multiple credible reviewers call it "Maybe even better than some of the Mega Man games themselves!". Many of you will call that ludicrious, but the point remains.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/2/2006 10:31:57 PM | message detail
Extha, most people figure that equal noms=equal contest representation.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:32:18 PM | message detail
I hope Tron Bonne doesn't make it in. Her fans have been historically annoying around here, to the point of rallying for hours to try and win matches involving her in the Rally Contest and on GFA

<_< I dunno what your talking about.....>_>
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:34:44 PM | message detail
While Ganondorf > Bowser seems logical, Ganondorf has one of the worst records with SFF ever. The guy probably got SFFed by Samus.
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Lopen | Posted 8/2/2006 10:35:53 PM | message detail
WTF. Tron's Projectile assit alone makes me her more popular than Morrigan, nobody uses Morrigan in MvC2, Tron's a pretty frequent member.

You're not going to convince me than an assist makes her a more popular casual pick than a hot shoto-clone in Morrigan. I doubt the people who play MvC2 seriously really account for much anyway. (as if Tron's that useful there, either.. it's all Mags/Sent/Cable/a few others that aren't Tron)

I mean, don't get me wrong, I've seen more "good players" use Tron, but I'm just not seeing Tron as the more popular pick in general.

And Morrigan has MvC1.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:36:00 PM | message detail
I certainly wouldn't vote spam for her in a real contest setting though if thats what your getting at. I don't feel like having another main account of mine gone.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:36:19 PM | message detail
Well, guys... CATS, Kefka, Diablo, Ganon and Revolver Ocelot all did better in the villains contest than the character battle that folled very shortly after. LS got SFF'd. Bowser went up a ridiculous amount even after the villains contest. Luca dropped, but he was behind Wesker who was the only character other than Sephiroth to "boost" without reason. I can't explain why that happened, but I can be pretty damn sure that Sephiroth was simply anti-voted to hell that contest causing almost everyone else to look better than they should. Ganon included.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/2/2006 10:36:22 PM | message detail
Given that Bowser and Samus both suck with SFF, I doubt there was any there.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:36:40 PM | message detail
Oh and I don't understand talk of Bowser > Ganondorf. Zelda is the supreme king of NintendoFAQs. In a close match, where is the SFF more likely to go?

In a close match, there isn't likely to be any SFF and I think Bowser is stronger to begin with.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:37:11 PM | message detail
Given that Bowser and Samus both suck with SFF, I doubt there was any there.

Then Ganondorf isn't close to Bowser. Problem solved.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:37:34 PM | message detail
Extha, most people figure that equal noms=equal contest representation.

I figure there'll be more variation among the female noms or something. I don't know. I'm just hoping we aren't stuck with 25 fodderiffic females. >.<
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:37:47 PM | message detail
Bowser/Snake is good enough for me to justify Bowser over Ganondorf. Of course, then you can just slap that down with Bowser/Kirby sort of.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 8/2/2006 10:38:15 PM | message detail
I'd take Bowser over Ganondorf and feel confident over it. I don't really have a reason.. it's kinda like MM/MK. I was just confident in a MM victory.


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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:02 PM | message detail
Of course, then you can just slap that down with Bowser/Kirby sort of.

I can't see Ganondorf getting an overperformance if Bowser can't.
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Lopen | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:04 PM | message detail
can't explain why that happened, but I can be pretty damn sure that Sephiroth was simply anti-voted to hell that contest causing almost everyone else to look better than they should. Ganon included.

I've been saying this since the X-Stats came out, and I still believe it. Though I really think Sephiroth was only anti-voted against Bowser and Ganondorf... as that was the "we've gotta take him down now" time.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:12 PM | message detail
Ganondorf proved against Link that he has about ZERO fans of his own. You can say ZeldaFAQS but that doesn't mean that the Zelda fans will support every Zelda character over other Nintendo characters they most likely like as well.
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Chinballz | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:32 PM | message detail
Speaking of Tron, how do you guys think she would do if she had the following match picture?

http://zanyvgquotes.com/
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:37 PM | message detail
Well, using the stats, Kratos would get 27% on Sonic. So downgrade a little and we'll say Sheena or Colette would get tripled, maybe quadded. I'd wouldn't take Tron to even break 15% on Sonic.

As for Bowser/Ganondorf, being Ganondorf's #1, I'd actually probably pick Bowser, because if I went with Ganondorf, I'd feel extremely uncomfortable, and if Ganondorf wins anyway, screw my bracket, yadda yadda. They're pretty much equals, but I do think Bowser would SFF Ganondorf enough to slightly put him over.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:39:54 PM | message detail
I don't take much of what happened in the villains contest too seriously(aside from Sephiroth winning ^^;) because I think it was rather obvious that he got anti-voted to hell and back. That's why I thought Bowser > Snake was so freggin' ludicrous to me.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:40:00 PM | message detail
"Given that Bowser and Samus both suck with SFF, I doubt there was any there."

AHEM! Bowser vs. Yoshi?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:40:34 PM | message detail
I think she'd lose hard to giant needle Morrigan.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/2/2006 10:41:23 PM | message detail
I figure there'll be more variation among the female noms or something. I don't know. I'm just hoping we aren't stuck with 25 fodderiffic females. >.<

I'm certain there are more than 7 females who could beat Terra (who ranks directly under CATS) in a match. It's not going to be that bad at least in the upper half...
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:42:00 PM | message detail
Speaking of Tron, how do you guys think she would do if she had the following match picture?

http://zanyvgquotes.com/


I'd rather see Tron in her Marvel vs Capcom 2 pic with the Servbots. Or better yet her in the Santa Claus suit from Misadventures. Or in the business suit from MML2 >_>
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:42:15 PM | message detail
Ganondorf proved against Link that he has about ZERO fans of his own. You can say ZeldaFAQS but that doesn't mean that the Zelda fans will support every Zelda character over other Nintendo characters they most likely like as well.

Err... then Bowser has no fans of his own either, because Mario did pretty much the same thing to Bowser that Link did to Ganondorf.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/2/2006 10:43:35 PM | message detail
Except Bowser nearly broke 30% on Mario, while I won't even mention what Link got (since it still pains me)
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:43:45 PM | message detail
then Bowser has no fans of his own either, because Mario did pretty much the same thing to Bowser that Link did to Ganondorf.

Uhh...It's not even close to the same. Mario barely did better against Bowser than Cloud did.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:44:00 PM | message detail
He did? Then I am mistaken. I thought it was 80-20 or some such thing.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 8/2/2006 10:44:09 PM | message detail
Err... then Bowser has no fans of his own either, because Mario did pretty much the same thing to Bowser that Link did to Ganondorf.



Eh, the amount that Mario SFFed Bowser was much less extreme than the way Link SFFed Ganon.


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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:44:31 PM | message detail
Link got what, 93, 94% on Ganon?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:44:49 PM | message detail
ExTha, Mario didn't beat Bowser down nearly as badly. The guy isn't immune to it, but he survives it and Ganon does not.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/2/2006 10:45:07 PM | message detail
Then again, Link is far better with SFF than Mario. I'd still take Ganondorf > Bowser and feel pretty confident about it.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:45:46 PM | message detail
Ganon scored about 12% on Link.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 8/2/2006 10:46:25 PM | message detail
Then again, Link is far better with SFF than Mario


I wouldn't say "far better". Comparing Link/Samus and Mario/Samus would actually favor Mario... although I wonder how a Link/Samus match would go nowadays.


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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:46:27 PM | message detail
Then again, Link is far better with SFF than Mario.

That's really got nothing to do with THIS particular situation where it's the villain facing the hero. Ganondorf was exposed as a Link leech. Bowser has actually shown himself to have a fanbase for more reasons than just being the Mario bad guy.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:47:22 PM | message detail
I wouldn't. Ganon's score in 2k3 is tied direct to Tidus and Magus and he's dead even with them both, look at where those two are. Especially if we're talking pre-TP, I think the guy is at risk of losing to Kirby and that kid seems like he did a little too good on Bowser.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:48:03 PM | message detail
Link isn't all that much better at SFF than Mario - look at Samus.

Link's just... Link.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:48:46 PM | message detail
"Comparing Link/Samus and Mario/Samus would actually favor Mario..."

Not necessarily. I mean, don't you find it odd that Samus got her Metroid Prime boost more than a year after the game came out? I have a feeling she was on par w/ 2k4 Sephiroth in 2k3.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:49:15 PM | message detail
Prediction: Who would you predict alongside Samus, Tifa, Aeris, and Zelda in the Elite 8 of a 32 Female Bracket?
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/2/2006 10:50:22 PM | message detail
Lulu, Yuffie, Yuna, Rikku.

....Ouch.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/2/2006 10:50:53 PM | message detail
"Prediction: Who would you predict alongside Samus, Tifa, Aeris, and Zelda in the Elite 8 of a 32 Female Bracket?"

It depends a lot on who gets in and where they are placed in the bracket, but if I were to name what I thought were the next 4 strongest potential characters I'd go with: Yuffie, Yuna, Rikku, and Peach.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 8/2/2006 10:51:27 PM | message detail
...Lets say Lulu, Rikku, and Yuna somehow don't make the field. <_<
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:51:34 PM | message detail
Peach, Rikku, Jill Valentine and Yuna.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:51:40 PM | message detail
Peach, Yuna, Rikku, and KOS-MOS. I want to say Lara Croft has a shot, but that's only if she takes on two fodder characters and one of the previous eight gets terrible bracket placement.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/2/2006 10:51:46 PM | message detail
Depending on how the bracket was setup:
Yuffie, Yuna, Rikku, Chun-Li
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/2/2006 10:52:21 PM | message detail
Yuffie, Peach, Jill, KOS.........Ada.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 8/2/2006 10:52:24 PM | message detail
You have to snub a lot of characters before you get to an Elite Eight with Tron Bonne.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:52:26 PM | message detail
Ah, forgot about Yuffie. Yeah, I'd take her over KOS-MOS.
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Who Cares? | Posted 8/2/2006 10:52:35 PM | message detail
*Sigh* Why does everyone continue to forget Chun-Li? >_>
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