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Tediz247 | Posted 8/2/2006 7:55:01 AM | message detail
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46 - Red Sox 777
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48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/2/2006 7:56:35 AM | message detail
I wouldn't say that the overlaps hurt FF. I'd say it's more that each Zelda game has a huge fanbase that would allow it to stand on it's own without any other game in the series.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/2/2006 8:02:34 AM | message detail
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10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
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15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
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31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu

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Yesmar | Posted 8/2/2006 8:05:09 AM | message detail
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15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
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Radix | Posted 8/2/2006 8:11:15 AM | message detail
Question: Does the winner of this guru contest get to pick a nom for the next "Spring" contest, character battle, or neither?
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 8/2/2006 8:13:09 AM | message detail
Hmm. Is it a fair assumption that FF7, not FF the series is the most powerful force in these contests? Could FF's massive overlap with everything have actually worked against it?

I would take the Zelda series over FF in a heartbeat. While FF does have FFVII, FFVI, FFX, and likely FFVIII, I don't see any Zelda being less than decently powerful.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 8:14:53 AM | message detail
They're guaranteed to get in.

After Chrono missed the Series Contest, I'm a little skeptical about things being "guaranteed."

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/2/2006 8:15:03 AM | message detail
I don't understand how a 51% win with your lead twindling down each update until the poll ended is Zelda dominance.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 8/2/2006 8:16:10 AM | message detail
Maybe we could've learned something from the original Zelda being stronger than the original FF in 2k4; many people suggested that these games got their impressive strength due to franchise association.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 8:20:16 AM | message detail
I wouldn't really think so, myself.

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shadow8021 | Posted 8/2/2006 8:21:56 AM | message detail
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9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
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Series Contest Score: 60/80
Winner: The Legend of Zelda
shadow8021 | Posted 8/2/2006 8:25:58 AM | message detail
Metal Gear vs. Sonic the Hedgehog, who ya got?
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Series Contest Score: 60/80
Winner: The Legend of Zelda
charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2006 8:33:46 AM | message detail
After Chrono missed the Series Contest, I'm a little skeptical about things being "guaranteed."

I wasn't expecting it to be in the contest.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 8:38:29 AM | message detail
There was really no reason to not expect Chrono to be in the contest. You're looking at a series that is at least in the top five for strength. I certainly wouldn't have thought it'd miss out.

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meche313 | Posted 8/2/2006 8:41:19 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: SSB series escapes being doubled by Final Fantasy and Zelda like the lol x-stats suggest.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 8:53:43 AM | message detail
at least in the top five for strength

While I wouldn't take RE over Chrono *cough*, this is still a huge assumption. There's almost no way it's above SSB. I'd take Sonic, Metal Gear, and Mega Man over it with little hesitation, too. It could beat them, maybe, but to say at least top five is quite foolish.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/2/2006 8:53:55 AM | message detail
Fiction.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2006 8:56:26 AM | message detail
There was really no reason to not expect Chrono to be in the contest. You're looking at a series that is at least in the top five for strength. I certainly wouldn't have thought it'd miss out.

Don't get me wrong I loved CT and liked CC, for some reason I don't see it as a series.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 9:03:09 AM | message detail
While I wouldn't take RE over Chrono *cough*, this is still a huge assumption. There's almost no way it's above SSB. I'd take Sonic, Metal Gear, and Mega Man over it with little hesitation, too. It could beat them, maybe, but to say at least top five is quite foolish.

I would take Chrono over SSB, myself. Unless you think SSB adds a crapload to the series, then I'm not sure why you would think it's able to beat Chrono without a problem. Chrono Trigger is safely ahead of SSBM in popularity -- there is no question who wins that match. Chrono Cross is certainly going to be weaker than SSB, but it's still going to be a strong game on its own too. It's not going to be a fodder game at all. The only series outside of the Big Three that I think has a really good shot at winning there is SSB.

Don't get me wrong I loved CT and liked CC, for some reason I don't see it as a series.

I dunno why you wouldn't. Of course, if you also have trouble seeing SSB, Halo, Kingdom Hearts, and so on then I could see why you would, if only because some people do have trouble seeing only a couple of games make a "series."

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xp1337 | Posted 8/2/2006 9:03:34 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: SSB series escapes being doubled by Final Fantasy and Zelda like the lol x-stats suggest.

Maybe against Final Fantasy. Though that is a rather big maybe.

I can't see it doing that to LoZ.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2006 9:14:02 AM | message detail
I dunno why you wouldn't. Of course, if you also have trouble seeing SSB, Halo, Kingdom Hearts, and so on then I could see why you would, if only because some people do have trouble seeing only a couple of games make a "series."

True I don't see any of them as series (though KH does have 3 games now), but I did expect them to be in the contest. The differenece between those "series" and Chrono is that I expect them to become series in the future while Square has more or less abandon Chrono.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 9:19:07 AM | message detail
Yeah, but it's a series contest. It's almost irrelevant that SSB would be massively stronger than CC, and that CT isn't even safely above SSBM. Series aren't simply a sum of their games. This contest has clearly shown that voters actually take the series as a whole, and CC brings down Chrono a lot. Hell, look at charmander6000, who doesn't even consider it a real series. It's quite likely that many voters will feel this way, I think.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 9:20:40 AM | message detail
Er, that "will" should be "would". Unless you expect to see this match happening any time soon...
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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 9:35:35 AM | message detail
I guess I should elaborate further. To earn one's vote in a series contest as a 2 game series, one should generally like both games, or have played one expecting that they would like the other. With SSB, you have the very popular SSBM and the slightly-less-liked SSB. Most people probably don't like one and hate the other, they just like one more, because the series is fairly homogeneous.

This isn't the case with Chrono, though. Many avid fans of Chrono Trigger hate Chrono Chross. Even some the other way around, meaning that a lot of Chrono Chross's strength doesn't matter, because those people are far less likely to vote for it as a series.

This argument isn't anything new; it's the best explanation for Zelda beating FF.
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MurderousNun | Posted 8/2/2006 9:38:14 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: SSB series escapes being doubled by Final Fantasy and Zelda like the lol x-stats suggest.

It's possible against Final Fantasy. Look what Smash did against Mario. Heck, we're not even sure if it got SFF'D in that match. Maybe it did. Maybe Sonic actually took advantage of his iconic status and overperformed on Smash. We certainly don't have much concrete evidence one way or the other, so it's all speculation at this point. However, after Brawl, I don't think Super Smash Bros. will have much trouble escaping the doubling on anything sans Zelda.

Speaking of which, no way against Zelda. No way. It's too much of an SFF-machine.
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Jman_gamerX8 | Posted 8/2/2006 9:46:59 AM | message detail
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14 - Z1mZum
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18 - Janus5000
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35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/2/2006 9:51:24 AM | message detail
Yeah, SSB likely couldn't against LoZ -- LoZ:WW is much bigger to the Gamecube here than SMS, and LoZ:OoT is much bigger than SM64 (even if you count the DS port). Those two alone make it harder for SSB/M to stand, and LoZ:LttP > SMB3 while LoZ ~= SMW...

...yeah, it'd be an uphill stuggle for SSB to avoid the doubling.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/2/2006 9:57:30 AM | message detail
Important X-Stats question!

As you'll remember, earlier this year we choose to adjust the stats for lolx to reflect the fact that Final Fantasy 7 was the most dominant force these Contests had ever seen. Since 2005 Link had just put up 54.56% on Base Link, we adjusted by making FF7 equal to 55.00% on BL. With Zelda having just taken down the FF series, it's clear that it needs to end up higher than FF7 alone. But how much higher?

If we adjust so that Final Fantasy Series = Final Fantasy 7, that gives us...

Zelda Series = 56.11%
Link = 54.56%
Ocarina = 50.80%

FF Series = 55.00%
FF7 = 55.00%
Cloud = 51.90%

Mario Series = 51.44%
Mario = 43.20%
Mario 3 = 43.89%

Sonic Series = 33.32% (SFFed by Melee?)
Sonic = 38.50%
Sonic 2 = 22.17%

MGS Series = 29.47% (looked unimpressive for some reason the whole contest?)
Snake = 36.97%
MGS2 = 35.77%

SSB Series = 39.35% (SFFed by Mario?)
Melee = 41.33%

Mega Man Series = 28.39% (I have no idea)
Mega Man = 38.79%

Hm... the last 4 seem to point to needing an upwards adjustment, but jeez, Mario looks like a monster already. I guess the other option would be to adjust so that SSB Series = Melee, but that seems risky considering how we don't know what kind of weirdness went on in that Mario/SSB matchup.

Hmmm...

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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 9:57:46 AM | message detail
SSB has proven to be pretty SFF resistant. It may be overrated a little due to other factors, but I think either Zelda or FF vs SSB would be around a doubling, give or take.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/2/2006 10:00:33 AM | message detail
After Chrono missed the Series Contest, I'm a little skeptical about things being "guaranteed."

The Chrono series wasn't absent from the contest because it didn't get enough nominations (which I think is what the person was talking about), it was absent from the contest because of CJay's discretion.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/2/2006 10:04:44 AM | message detail
FF series isn't equal to FF7, though. They are seperate entities in different types of contests.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/2/2006 10:05:55 AM | message detail
Er, the Chrono series didn't get enough nominations. Chrono + Crono + Crhono did, but he didn't count typos for other series, and it still may not have made it if he had.
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Snip Snip Now | Posted 8/2/2006 10:16:16 AM | message detail
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13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
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24 - Big Bob
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28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
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33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/2/2006 10:16:39 AM | message detail
Of course they're separate entities, just like FF7 is different than Cloud. But people like to use lol x-stats to compare Link VS Ocarina and Mario VS Super Mario World and the like, just for fun, and now they're going to want to compare the MG series against MGS itself, and so forth. It's not serious business, I just want to be able to deliver numbers that make some sort of sense.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/2/2006 10:21:14 AM | message detail
Yeah, but it's a series contest. It's almost irrelevant that SSB would be massively stronger than CC, and that CT isn't even safely above SSBM. Series aren't simply a sum of their games. This contest has clearly shown that voters actually take the series as a whole, and CC brings down Chrono a lot. Hell, look at charmander6000, who doesn't even consider it a real series. It's quite likely that many voters will feel this way, I think.

First off, SSB wouldn't be massively stronger than Chrono Cross. It'd be stronger, no doubt, but it isn't going to be by significant margins.

The idea that Chrono Cross brings down the series does not make much sense either. Chrono Cross does not bring the series down any more than Metal Gear Solid 2 brings Metal Gear down -- it doesn't. The hatred that people associate with Chrono Cross is viciously overrated. It has no more haters than your typical game.

Charmander also does not view the other games I mentioned (Halo, SSB, etc.) as series either. The mentality comes from there only being a couple of games in the series, but that certainly did not hurt SSB in the slightest. People not viewing it as a series would have nothing to do with the quality of the games.

This isn't the case with Chrono, though. Many avid fans of Chrono Trigger hate Chrono Chross. Even some the other way around, meaning that a lot of Chrono Chross's strength doesn't matter, because those people are far less likely to vote for it as a series.

Many people also love both of the games and the series as a whole. The idea that Cross is bringing in this hatred to taint the Chrono series is rather unfounded. There are people who hate it, sure, but they are not the majority or even close to it. What I have found through polls -- both new and old -- along with knowing about what we have seen of Chrono overall seems to tell me that it is going to be at least a top five series. SSB beating Chrono? Sure, I can understand that. Sonic beating Chrono? I don't see it happening.

And for those "polls" I mentioned ...

2/28/2003 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1182

5/04/2001 -- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=522

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2006 10:29:40 AM | message detail
I'd easily take SSB over Chrono easily. maybe it's instinct, but I don't see it doing much in a series contest.
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Tirofog | Posted 8/2/2006 10:50:58 AM | message detail
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8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
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27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
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31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
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Z1mZum knows why there's bacon in the soap. After all, he owned me in the Best Series Ever Guru contest.
LuniNutz99 | Posted 8/2/2006 11:20:01 AM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99

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Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/2/2006 11:25:31 AM | message detail
Street Fighter: 23.12%
Kingdom Hearts: 21.90%


Dragon Quest: 16.57%
Metroid: 15.30%


This X-stats even beats Kirby > Samus.
Street Fighter > Kingdom Hearts is a fact until we have another series contest. >_>

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Tails would nominate you for the next character contest if he could. Z1mZum > me
Nominate_Tails | Posted 8/2/2006 11:26:12 AM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
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Tails would nominate you for the next character contest if he could. Z1mZum > me
LuniNutz99 | Posted 8/2/2006 11:26:30 AM | message detail
Well, I ended the contest with a good score of 78. Only picks I missed were going with Halo and GTA. I should have known Castlevania would win only because anything related to Castlevania always screws up my bracket lol. I like the series so much that I'm usually biased towards it, so this time I went against it. The Plan got me again. :(

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Tediz247 | Posted 8/2/2006 11:51:58 AM | message detail
I'm surprised that the nominations haven't gone up on the front page yet. I hope this doesn't mean another ridiculous wait for the bracket.
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Guru status: Z1mZum'd.
ZSB [aX]
Kaxon | Posted 8/2/2006 12:01:57 PM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
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Z1mZum is the latest guru to destroy me in the Guru Contest. Congrats!
Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
KingBartz | Posted 8/2/2006 12:16:47 PM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz

And I'm back for another Character battle!

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I hate everyone equally.
TRE Public Account | Posted 8/2/2006 12:18:28 PM | message detail
3:15
MG vs KH - 94261
Is The Legend of Zelda really the best game series of all time? - 96372

oO

We're on pace for just under 140k now.
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"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
Tediz247 | Posted 8/2/2006 12:21:05 PM | message detail
W... TF? Never thought I'd see a PotD crack the top 5 all time.
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Guru status: Z1mZum'd.
ZSB [aX]
charmander6000 | Posted 8/2/2006 12:21:05 PM | message detail
140k

O_O

Only three matches have beaten that, though two of them were from yesterday and the day before.
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush
Congratulations to Z1mZum for winning the Guru Contest
TRE Public Account | Posted 8/2/2006 12:26:18 PM | message detail
W... TF? Never thought I'd see a PotD crack the top 5 all time.

Technically speaking, it's been done before:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1417

But that poll had a glitch where it was open for 2 and a half days and you could vote again each day.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
voltch | Posted 8/2/2006 12:34:59 PM | message detail
i hope the bracket comes up soon.
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Z1mZum humiliated me to hell and back in the Best.Series.Ever conest.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/2/2006 12:36:17 PM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - ChichiriMuyo
5 - Explicit Content
6 - transience
7 - Master Moltar
8 - Mac Arrowny
9 - dethfdddddh
10 - Draco1214
11 - arkenaga
12 - Yoshifan823
13 - MasterofHunters
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Shivan Reincarnated
16 - MegatokyoEd
17 - DomaDragoon
18 - Janus5000
19 - Applekidjosh
20 - BlAcK TuRtLe
21 - bobeta
22 - greatone
23 - NewLib
24 - Big Bob
25 - HaRRicH
26 - meche313
27 - MarioSuperstar
28 - RockMFR 5
29 - cavalier lowen
30 - Bobby200614
31 - junglebob22
32 - Heroic Mario
33 - yoblazer33
34 - trizob the hedgehog
35 - Aprosenf
36 - MoogleKupo141
37 - voltch
38 - XxSoulxX, yo
39 - Lieutenant Kettch
40 - A worlds envy
41- Osfan
42 - ff6man
43 - rpgapzx
44 - Viviff
45 - expaniol
46 - Red Sox 777
47 - ps2rulezzz
48 - cyko
49 - jonthomson
50 - jeevesthemole
51 - Luis_Sera89
52 - Phediuk
53 - FFDragon
54 - Vile Requiem
55 - charmander6000
56 - Radix
57 - Tediz247
58 - Brett with Atreyu
59- Yesmar
60 - shadow8021
61 - Jman_gamerX8
62 - Snip Snip Now
63 - Tirofog
64 - LuniNutz99
65 - Zylo the wolf
66 - Kaxon
67 - KingBartz
68- longbladeofhiko

When someone mind tellin me who won the BSE guru contest so I can remake mah sig when my Hiko account gets unwarned?
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Dagan Bomb For The WIN!