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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 338
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| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:54:06 AM | message detail |
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***SUMMER 2006 CONTEST WINNERS AND LOSERS*** The mid-contest column becomes a full-fledged review of the tournament? Who got the best deal and who got the short end of the Deku Stick? Read on to find out! As usual, this is my own opinion, and not that of Board 8/GameFAQs/you/CJayC/etc. WINNERS STAR OF THE CONTEST: Pokémon (H3) - In terms of wins and losses, Pokémon did exactly as expected. However, the way it did so was one of the biggest shockers in this contest. Before this tournament went underway, Pokémon was considered to carry the lethal stigma of being the one franchise that could lose a match by name recognition; people would sooner be caught dead than voting for Pokémon out in the open. We have the overmerchandising of the franchise to blame for that. Hell, when the picture for the match against Star Ocean came up, we were all virtually giving the match to Star Ocean. Pikachu had center stage with the stupidest pose possible, and in the background were all manners of cute Pokémon, namely the RBY and RSE starters. The rest is history... the match ended up in a 65-35 clobbering. For Pokémon. Still, no one gave it a chance against fellow Nintendo series, Metroid, if only because of SFF. But by nothing short of an act of God, Pokémon/Metroid became what Frog/Riku was just last year: an afterthought mounting a challenge against a near-unanimous favorite. It's no secret, Pokémon got such a high seed because of board 8. Here, Pokémon is only surpassed by SSB in popularity. But what happened since the Xenogears match in order to allow Pokémon to live up to that 3-seed? Hatred for the series dying down is the easy answer, but why is it more acceptable to vote for Pokémon? As much as I'd like to say it's because of the awesomeness of Emerald and FRLG, that's probably not it. And you better watch out in coming years, because if a Pokémon entrant comes back there's real potential there. Diamond/Pearl is interesting many people who stopped playing with GSC, or even only played RBY in some cases. It's a new beginning for Pokémon - let's hope it makes the best of it. HONORABLE MENTION: Castlevania (S3) - One of many "old" series that highlighted the seemingly inherent weakness of newer entries, but Castlevania did it in style. At first glance, Castlevania/Halo was a match specifically engineered to try and get the biggest vote swing ever between night and day. And as such, Castlevania only really opened people's eyes a few hours in, when it managed to build what was thought to be a sufficient lead to prevent Halo from coming back like a bullet like it usually did. However, nothing prepared us for what was going to happen next - Castlevania only lost a single percent throughout the day, leading to an extremely easy win. What's even more dumbfounding was that Castlevania then tried the same trick on Kingdom Hearts, but the latter managed to pull off what was expected from Halo. Still, Castlevania put up much more of a fight than we expected pre-contest (though KH's pitiful performance on Harvest Moon was the ideal warning that CV really had it in it to win), and nailed a solid position in the stats in the process. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:54:19 AM | message detail |
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Legend of Zelda (H1) - Despite what the BOP numbers suggest,
Zelda isn't a surprise champion in the slightest - although why it is
the champion likely has more to do with FF being underwhelming than
Zelda being even more of a doomsday powerhouse than previously
understood, if you look at Mario/FF. I mean, Zelda IS a doomsday
powerhouse, given that the only series that gave the big three any sort
of challenge was SSB (more on that later). But the way the bracket was
set up, Zelda was allowed to keep all its cards hidden until the
semifinals. A match against Civilization isn't going to tell much...
but interestingly enough, the 85-15 SFF beatdown of Metroid was
considered by many to be a Cloud/Sonic-like warning sign that Mario's
and FF's performances so far weren't just the opponents' weakness,
which was the way FF/Diablo came across as, for instance, but that the
big three was so far above the rest it was ridiculous. Then came the
semifinals... Zelda's match against Metal Gear got percentages
comparable to those of FF/Megaman. And given that Metal Gear is much
more than Snake compared to what Megaman is to his series, while it
didn't hand Zelda the contest outright, it had to come in as the
favorite. And it started the match as such, building a humongous lead
of TWO THOUSAND VOTES before the night vote finally kicked in - but it
was too late. Zelda had just won the entire thing. I don't think I need
to elaborate on the implications this has in the upcoming character
contest - there ain't no getting offa this train we're on, but if you
want to throw yourself in front of it by picking someone else than
Link, be my guest. Don't blame me for turning you into splattery
remains, though. Suikoden (H4) - Ever since Suikoden 2 was FF7's designated first round fodder, Suikoden has had a history of stinking up the bottom of the barrel. However, this time, it managed to not look like complete crap with a solid 27% against MMX. Granted, its X-stat value is nothing unusual, but given that the standard is so much higher than anything we've ever seen before, it equates to a better performance than usual. Don't get me wrong, I'm tired of seeing those Suikoden jokers in contests. But I have to give the series credit for doing something right for once. Megaman X (H5) - Almost 20% against Zelda certainly isn't too shabby, since like I mentioned, the standard is so high. Throw some possible SFF on top of that, and you get a series that isn't too far away from the original Megaman. Of course, there's this old poll that shows people prefer MMX - but I'll be damned if people don't think of all the Megaman series when voting for Megaman. MMX didn't have that advantage, and despite a hiccup against Suikoden, it held its own well against Zelda. Star Ocean (H6) - Star Ocean over Pokémon was the mandatory "I have bigger balls than you" Heroic Mario pick of the tournament. Naturally, as a result, Star Ocean got completely annihilated (well, it's still a good step or two above Ulti's definition of the word) despite Pokémon having a picture that could easily remind people of why they never vote for it. Not that I believe in the pic factor generally, but it was one of those rare matches where it could have done something. But the real reason Star Ocean is here is because of how Pokémon subsequently held up against Metroid. SO was lined up to be an absolute joke when it was all said and done - it was seen as a contender for last place in the stats, thanks to double SFF from Zelda/Metroid and Metroid/Pokémon. But the latter did NOT deliver the SFF, as I mentioned earlier. In fact, it managed to rank ahead of Kirby in the end, which dumbfounded most of us. Talk about damage control. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:55:17 AM | message detail |
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Metal Gear (S1) - One of the most credible contenders for fourth
place, Metal Gear had a very solid (omg pun) run overall. Granted, it
didn't actually GET that fourth place, but 26% on Zelda... well, very
few series could possibly get that. There were many skeptics who
thought Metal Gear wouldn't get out of its division, but they were all
gone after Metal Gear's first match. I still can't explain how Soul
Calibur went from going blow for blow against Kingdom Hearts to jobbing
that badly. The Fire Emblem match was the only flaw we ever saw in
Metal Gear's armor, and it probably wasn't its own fault (more on that
later). Kingdom Hearts was one of the most popular upset picks on the
board, but all hope of that was already gone when KH barely squeaked by
Castlevania, slamming the door wide open for Metal Gear to get to the
Final Four. Of course, its run stopped there, but no one expected it
not to. A string of very impressive performances made it a good choice
for an award, but sadly for it there were much bigger shockers... Fire Emblem (S4) - Ever since FE7 claimed last place in the division 128 X-stats in the game contest, Fire Emblem has always had an aura of suckitude around it, despite having no actual proof this last place was deserved - the possibility of SFF between FF10 and FFTA and between FFTA and FE7 has always been very real, but lack of any possible proof makes this a big question mark. That and board 8 hates FFTA, so we're biased as hell from the start. And despite all of this, Fire Emblem escaped a doubling, something Soul Calibur, SOUL CALIBUR! failed to do. Silent Hill (S5) - And by extension, Silent Hill looks good as well. The loser of the mandatory "who the **** cares" match ended up matching Soul Calibur in the stats. Out of left field, I know, though this is probably more Soul Calibur sucking. Still, Silent Hill has proven it's worth much, much more than Pyramid Head. I'd like to see how James what's-his-name would do. Harvest Moon (S7) - Just like Agent 47 before it, Harvest Moon proved it wasn't the second coming of Tanner by putting up a result in the high 20s against Kingdom Hearts. And while Kingdom Hearts completely bombed in this contest, Harvest Moon ended up being stronger than many series it wasn't expected to beat, such as Civilization for instance. Fun fact: for the longest time, I thought that one HM game was called "A Wonderful Time". Yes, just like those Gman YTMNDs. Super Mario Bros. (M1) - For such a strong entrant, there's not much to say. After nabbing what would become the fourth biggest blowout of all time and the biggest since Snake/Tanner, Mario reared his head in the Zelda/FF debate in a "Me too! Me too!" fashion. It kept up the pace by holding Warcraft under 20%, which wasn't terribly surprising since FF creamed Diablo much, much worse. It then topped its incredible run off by thrashing FF with the board vote, and holding the lead for a full hour before letting go, in CT/FF7 fashion. All in all, the heroic plumber had a run worthy of such a legend. The one time it faltered, though, it did so big time, and it was against "cousin" Super Smash Bros. How to explain why so many people abandoned Mario, supposedly the king of SFF, for a little sideshow (however popular it may be)? More on that... right now! --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:55:33 AM | message detail |
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Super Smash Bros. (M2) - One of the recurrent themes of this
contest was how the old series outdid newer ones that were thought to
hold more power. SSB turned out to be the exception that confirmed the
rule. It killed two series that were known for being really ****ing old
(though Dragon Quest was a novelty for most non-Japanese people), and
held its own against Mario in such a fashion cries of rSFF could be
heard. Personally, I don't think that match was legit. I mean, consider
this. SSB's extrapolated value on FF is similar to what SSBM managed on
FF7. That means whatever little increase SSB was worth was equally
significant to what every other FF than 7 brought to the series. Even
with the argument that the variety of the fanbase was what stopped FF
from winning this contest, I still can't bring myself to believe that.
That, and there's the fact that every single series in the bracket
short of Sonic would fail to break 40% on it. No... just, no. Speaking
of Sonic, that'd mean it would beat everything but the big three and
SSB without even being close. Considering there's Metal Gear and
Megaman out there... once again, I'm hugely skeptical. Nothing can
possibly justify SSB being so strong. Not even Nintendo music. Megaman (U4) - The blue bomber had a great tournament - sadly, its run was cut short by shoddy seeding. No one had any doubt that the winner of Megaman vs. Mario Kart would be the second strongest in the division. And Megaman won that one handily, much to the surprise of many of us. I personally thought the power of the Mario name combined with Megaman being considered Nintendo as far as SFF trends go could give it the win. In the immortal words of a certain Lex Luthor, WROOOOOONG! Unfortunately, it was doomed to run into FF in the second round, and the fight it put up puts it very high in the X-stats. Small blip, though: it lost the age-old battle to Metal Gear. Not that it's really surprising. Elder Scrolls (U3) - At the time, 35% against Street Fighter looked impressive (even though many people were calling for it pulling a surprise win). But with the fight Street Fighter put up against Resident Evil, followed by Resident Evil falling just short of what Megaman did on FF, it ended up ranking comfortably ahead of Diablo. And by that I mean, it's not even a contest. Considering what Diablo the character did in past contests, this came as a shock to many, especially since the "Elder Scrolls" name was thought to be a handicap. The idea behind why Elder Scrolls was thought to be weak was that the voter who didn't play the games only knew the names Morrowind and Oblivion, so Elder Scrolls wouldn't ring a bell, unlike Street Fighter. But Oblivion isn't among the top FAQ pages for nothing, and in the end its players came out and voted en masse, paving the way for a possibly extended contest career, maybe...? Street Fighter (U6) - The most popular traditional fighter on GameFAQs showed once again that the genre wasn't completely nonexistant on this site. After falling short of 65% against the Elder Scrolls, an oddball if there ever was one, it went blow for blow against Resident Evil. The same RE that blew out Shadow Hearts worse than Samus beat Yuri, for Christ's sake. The same RE that came up just short of what Megaman did against FF. I'm repeating myself now, am I? The interesting thing is that SF held up much better against RE than SF2 did against SMRPG. No way is the entire RE series stronger than SMRPG alone, so I see this as a testament to how Street Fighter makes an impact as a series, but not any individual game. Kinda like Megaman. As a matter of fact, I hesitated for a very long time between Castlevania and Street Fighter for the Honorable Mention. I eventually chose CV, but it doesn't take anything away from what SF accomplished. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:56:25 AM | message detail |
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Resident Evil (U2) - I gave away why I'm putting RE here in the ES and SF write-ups, so I'm not going to bother saying it a third time. Mocktroid13, xXxNORGxXx, TheNFinity, ccbfan, ZidaneTribal13N - Our first ever perfect brackets! Now let's see some REAL impressive stuff and make one last a full 63-match contest, because let's face it, 31 matches perfect was done in the very first contest by RPGexpert and has been repeated in every contest so far save the villain contest. I still wonder how in hell we couldn't get a perfect there. But I digress. A perfect is a perfect, and kudos to the five users who finally did it and broke one of the longest-standing myths on this site! Those who picked Pokémon over Metroid - You were labeled as complete nutcases... a little too quickly. Don't ask how it happened, but we almost had our comeuppance. Almost. Seriously, great job sticking with an unlikely pick against all odds. It almost paid off. Almost. ;) LOSERS TURD OF THE CONTEST: Shadow Hearts (U7) - It's so amazingly weak, it allowed Resident Evil to become the first non-elite entrant to ever break 85% in a match. And it got much, much higher than that to boot. In the end, the X-stats will likely put it in third place all-time in terms of futility, behind Tanner and Adventure. The funniest thing about Shadow Hearts doesn't have anything to do with numbers, though. You know how unbearable the whining got every single day of the contest? Well, not here. No one gave two ****s about Shadow Hearts' decimation. That is an excellent reason to open the nominations to everyone - just so we don't have any more stinkbombs like that. I mean, it's the second contest in a row where Shadow Hearts ends up dead last. How the heck did Yuri do so well against Samus, anyway? DISHONORABLE MENTION: Kirby (H7) - It's one of two things: either Kirby got SFFed by Metroid, which is really ****ing sad in and of itself (I mean, it's ****ing Metroid, it shouldn't SFF anything), or that result was actually legit and Kirby would've lost to Star Ocean. Either way, Kirby loses. One thing I'm interested to see is the stock people will have in Kirby next contest. Will we pick him to lose a close match just because of what he did here? Considering board 8 is the bandwagon board to end all bandwagon boards, I wouldn't be shocked. Civilization (H8) - Given how strong Zelda turned out to be, 10% on it shouldn't be THAT bad... except Civilization was expected to have a small cult fanbase that would put it above some of the fodder that ended up ranking above it (I'm looking at you, Harvest Moon). The match pic didn't help things, either... it was the most stacked one this side of FF10/SSBM. Seriously, a humongous face shot of Link vs. a parking lot? Great job, Ceej. Ten bucks says Ulti uses the overdone and clichéd "The first match isn't about who will win, it's about how big the blowout will be" line in his PCA. Because he ALWAYS does that. Metroid (H2) - After its first round match against Kirby, it really looked like it managed to silence its critics, who remembered how badly the Metroid games ended up doing in the game contest as well as on The List(R). But we couldn't have a Metroid entry that's not "Samus Aran" do well, could we? I've already described extensively its choke job against Pokémon (come to think of it, that's why I always talk about everything in the Winners section that the Losers' always ends up much shorter), and then 15% against Zelda... ugh. Sure, there was SFF. but dang was that brutal. A far cry from Link/Samus, where there wasn't even enough SFF to definitely say that there was... and that hurts a lot more as a Metroid fan. Damn. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:57:12 AM | message detail |
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Soul Calibur (S8) - Coming into this contest, Soul Calibur
looked criminally underseeded. Everyone still had in mind the way its
first game almost toppled Kingdom Hearts in the game contest. As such,
many of us expected a follow-up to that. Needless to say, we didn't get
it. Breaking 30% against Metal Gear isn't bad per se, but it fell so
short of the expectations it lost a lot of credibility in the process.
Not to mention, Nightmare was one of the five characters backed by the
Nomination Rally Tournament, which prompted a reaction akin to "did we
do a huge mistake?". Halo (S6) - I've already mentioned how the newer series tended to fall like flies at the hands of the newer ones, and Halo's defeat to Castlevania was emblematic of that trend. The most surprising thing is how Halo was NEVER in it. It was meant to come back from anything CV threw at it during the night, and not only was the lead over 5000 when the sun rose, but Halo kept losing ground all day long, only gaining a single percentage point. And that's not all. Many people couldn't see how Halo could possibly lose to KH in a hypothetic second round match. After all, Halo has a history of outdoing KH in those things, and Halo 2 broke all kinds of sales records. Thing is, KH2 definitely had a huge impact on its own series as well; KH1 sales climbed around KH2's release IIRC. Kingdom Hearts (S2) - And yet, this was just barely enough to squeak by Castlevania. Sure, one-upping Halo is a plus, but given what KH2 was supposed to bring to the table, what it ended up getting against Metal Gear was nothing short of disastrous. KH2 was the very reason why KH over MG was one of the most popular upset picks. Interestingly, Kingdom Hearts, Soul Calibur and Halo all underachieving led people to question Starcraft's transitivity in the game contest. As has been said multiple times before, a cheater being found against SSBM could've only been the tip of the iceberg. Madden NFL (M8) - For the very first time, a sports entrant made it onto the fiel... oh wait, there's Little Mac. Sorry. However, what Madden ended up doing made Little Mac look like a juggernaut. Being on the ass end of the fourth biggest blowout of all time is no good, even if it's Mario and not, say, Resident Evil doing the blowout. Just like with Shadow Hearts, the most hilarious thing about Madden was the board, not the result. In the weeks leading up to the match, many contest vets tried messing with the n00bs' heads by persuading them Madden really had a chance of beating Mario. And some of them actually fell for it, believe it or not. Lately, there were a couple of those n00bs claiming that had Madden been elsewhere on the bracket, it might've made the Elite 8. Please. The only series it could beat on that bracket is Shadow Hearts. BOOM! Tough-actin' Tinactin was completely powerless against the fungi of the Mushroom Kingdom. Grand Theft Auto (M4) - Poor GTA. I don't recall ever seeing the odds so stacked against something... it's a miracle it managed to make it respectable against Warcraft. Seriously. The match was held on a Tuesday (how come nobody ever brought up the Tuesday factor before the match?), there was rallying on the Blizzard forums, a blue post... and the sky-high votals tend to confirm that the rallying alone was enough to cost GTA not only the victory, but an otherwise easy one at that. I believe it was HaRRicH who came up with a calculation method to figure out how much GTA would've gotten without the rallying... about 55%. Which, mind you, still puts GTA around Halo if you extrapolate. Really, for all the accusations of hate and lack of transitivity Halo has, you'd think GTA would outdo it constantly. Besides, after the fight Vice City put up against SSBM in the game contest, one would expect GTA to have more gas in the tank than that. Guess not. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra |
| transience | Posted 8/1/2006 11:57:20 AM | message detail |
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FF's holding up better than I thought it would. not bad, FF. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:57:28 AM | message detail |
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Warcraft (M5) - Yes, it had everything going for it against GTA.
But we also got to see what Warcraft really was made of against Mario,
and, well, I found that underwhelming. 19% puts it above a good chunk
of the field, but it's still far from being as impressive as what
Starcraft did way back then, effectively blowing up the Warcraft >
Starcraft theory. On the flip side, it won the battle against Diablo,
and easily at that. Sonic the Hedgehog (M3) - By all means, it should've been in the winners. However, first of all, I don't trust its X-stat value, and secondly, the big reason why it's here is because the comparison with Mario is pretty grim - Sonic 2 may have NOT been the victim of SFF against SMW in the game contest. As a result, it's doubtful we'll ever see Sonic succeed in anything but a character contest. Devil May Cry (M6) - Look at Sonic/Dante. Look at Sonic/DMC. See a difference? Series like Megaman and Sonic usually don't have much difference with their lead characters, relatively speaking. And yet DMC failed spectacularly in attempting to match Dante's 2004 performance. Yes, Sonic boosted since then... but so did Dante. Dragon Quest (M7) - DQ only has one American release under its belt, I'll give you that. However, for all the traffic DQ8 generated, one would expect a lot better result. That, and a lot of people playing the previous ones thanks to importing or emulation wouldn't be surprising either. Oh well, one more entry falling under the category of high FAQ/board activity, low contest performance. Not unlike pre-2006 Pokémon, really. Or maybe, maybe DQ is considered "new" by American standards and paid for it. (Remember, SSB is the exception to that rule, naturally.) Final Fantasy (U1) - Well, here's a name I certainly didn't expect to write in this part of the column. Just remember the reactions to its second update against Diablo. CONTEST OVER. OMG FF IS GONNA DOMINATE. But then it soon became apparent that a blowout of this size was only due to the big three being so far above the rest. It did its job well against Megaman, before leaving RE a little too much ground for its own good. But just like Zelda, it yet had to fight real competition. And the first real competition, Mario, didn't win, but gave it a huge slap in the face by leading for an hour and almost getting 47%. Zelda then followed it up by quickly building a 2000-vote lead before FF could even react. From there, it was game over. Zelda and Mario are proportionally doing what I expected them to do compared to each other, but I (and many others) didn't expect FF to lose at all. After all, when you get into any kind of competition with 1:7 odds, odds are, you win. And as such, I consider this to be more FF dropping the soap than Zelda being even more of a behemoth than previously though. Wait, I'm repeating myself. So I'll close this off with a fun fact: after picking FF7, Link, Sephiroth, Link again and FF7 again as champions, this is the first time ever the BOP gets a champion wrong. With a low, low prediction percentage of 21.21%. I fully expect the overall one to be higher, since for whatever reason most casuals were confident in Zelda winning. Diablo (U8) - I think I've mentioned just how bad the clobbering against FF was, and I've mentioned how badly it lost the comparisons game to Warcraft (and even Elder Scrolls kicked its ass good), so I'll just say this: especially with the gimmick to the upcoming contest, it's likely Diablo's contest career is over. That's a bit sad, considering how hardcore Diablo rocked our brackets in the villain contest. If he beat Kefka, he should stay. Too bad he probably won't. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/1/2006 11:57:33 AM | message detail |
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I vote we take Link and Cloud out, making this site SephirothFAQs for the remainder of forever. --- Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111 |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 11:58:32 AM | message detail |
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Mario Kart (U5) - At one point, Megaman was favored over Mario
Kart 33-4 in the BOP. Then a few regulars began mentioning Mario Kart's
chances... and the rest is history. Most popular upset pick throughout
the bracket, blah blah blah. And it was a reasonable one, too. After
all, Mario Kart is easily the most popular of the Mario spin-offs (I
don't consider SSB Mario, for the record), and the Mario name alone had
the potential to carry it far. Alas, that was not to be. Mario Kart was
never in it; I find the 42% it got to be a relatively poor performance.
It's enough to put it below Resident Evil and Street Fighter in the
X-stats as well... which doesn't make much sense in my mind. People who took SSB over Mario - Okay, what in the **** were you guys thinking? SSB didn't even get 40%, and STILL many people are calling for rSFF. Did you really think Nintendo fans would give up on Mario for SSB even more than they already did? Or did you think this match equated to Mario vs. all of Nintendo AND EVEN METAL GEAR?!? I'm dead serious, I saw that Metal Gear excuse multiple times. Jesus. Contest n00bs, whiners, etc. - Re-Jesus. I feel like I lost 50 points of IQ reading some of the crap some of those idiots decided to waste bandwidth on. What kind of excuses didn't I hear? The most popular was of course, OMG IT HAS HISTORY IT SHOULD WIN. Who the **** are you to care about history? You act like you were four when SMB1 came out, but it looks more like you were four when FF7 came out. Speaking of FF7, there was one particular idiot who mentioned how Mario went back to the NES and SNES days and therefore it should win. Hello? FF7. The 7 is there for a reason. There were six other games before, dumbass. What else were there? Oh, of course. People who wanted Mortal Kombat, Tetris, C&C in the bracket. I don't know about you, but where I live we have a mentality of "if you don't vote, you're not allowed to complain about the government" when it comes to elections. Same thing here. Did you nominate your series? If not, SHUT THE HELL UP. There were so many others, including the typical "OMG BAN FF/ZELDA/MARIO" (one guy actually added Metal Gear to those) people. People who clamored for a female contest - I will never forgive you for the ****fest we're about to see in the character battle. You saw how fodderific the villain contest was, right? A female contest is going to be the same damn thing, and the sad thing is, it's actually being incorporated in a character battle. If there's a ToC on top of that, forget it, I'm outta here. Zolom/NidoranF/whatever nominators - Your junk isn't eligible. Live with it. Some guy actually begged a mod to convince CJayC to let the Zolom in in a moderation contest form. Understandably, the mod pizzowned him, while still being merciful enough to not consider it contest abuse. If you really want to nominate joke characters, at least nominate eligible ones, like CATS, Jay Solano, heck, even Doc Louis (the ***** Stole My Bike guy for those of you not in the know). But noooooooo, you have to ***** and moan like even kids wouldn't. Sorry, had to get that off my chest. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| MurderousNun | Posted 8/1/2006 12:02:57 PM | message detail |
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Yikes, Slow. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:04:50 PM | message detail |
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how come nobody ever brought up the Tuesday factor before the match? Oh, they did. They DID. And I will never let tranny forget it. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:10:29 PM | message detail |
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the big reason why it's here is because the comparison with Mario
is pretty grim - Sonic 2 may have NOT been the victim of SFF against
SMW in the game contest After Sonic is projected to do better as a series than Sonic 2 did against Mario World, and after Mario proved to be more of a beast as a series than it's ever been at anything else, you're saying this leans more toward there NOT being SFF? Silly. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/1/2006 12:11:22 PM | message detail |
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good read. Pokemon though? Yeah it was supposed to get destroyed, but whatever validation it gets from hanging with Metroid, how much is it left with when Metroid crashes against Zelda? Oh, and not Mario for most impressive? --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 8/1/2006 12:11:32 PM | message detail |
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So I assume this match is pretty much over? --- I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator!(Hiko) Dagan Bomb For The WIN! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:11:34 PM | message detail |
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I'm not expecting it... or thinking it's a reality at all, but how many votes per update does FF need to win this? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:11:49 PM | message detail |
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Also, kudos to Final Fantasy for holding up fairly well. It may not
have entirely survived the morning, but it didn't go down without a
fight. Impressed that it's still fighting, too. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm holding out hope. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:13:05 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy needs 17.9 votes per five minutes to catch Zelda. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 12:14:22 PM | message detail |
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I mentioned that Mario and Zelda are doing as good compared to each
other as I expected. I'm putting the blame on FF for what's happening
today. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| BeTheMan | Posted 8/1/2006 12:14:55 PM | message detail |
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Assuming that we've got 50,000 or so votes left out, FF needs to bring
in somewhere around 53.50% of the remaining votes to pull off the win.
In its best hours of the poll (4-6 AM), FF pulled in a little under
53%. Is it possible for FF to pull it off? I suppose, but it's really,
really unlikely. --- ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man? |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:16:13 PM | message detail |
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Aw... I thought FF might have had something brewing until that last update. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Heroic Applekid | Posted 8/1/2006 12:17:00 PM | message detail |
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Meh, Zolom was a good try --- lol AKJ @ work Z1mZum made me his GIR |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 12:19:10 PM | message detail |
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I think FF IS brewing actually. Zelda's only gained like 30 votes in
the past hour and 15 minutes. We're nearing FF's evening vote. --- Sp2k6: 60/64 Rank: Tied for 1018th Losses: Halo, GTA, SF Nominate Nidoran F and Yesterday's Pick: FF Today's Pick: FF Today's Vote: Zelda CATS in the character contest! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2006 12:20:46 PM | message detail |
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Didn't CJayC started the contest a day later than expected which meant WC/GTA would've been on a Monday. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:20:54 PM | message detail |
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Time to make this match look much closer than it actually was! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:21:40 PM | message detail |
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If this match finishes within 51% I'll be happy. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 12:21:44 PM | message detail |
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Ah, yes. That's true. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| transience | Posted 8/1/2006 12:22:03 PM | message detail |
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FF is going to gain from here on, I'd say. it won't be enough, but it will probably be the closest final ever. that first hour is essentially the entire difference in this match; otherwise it's 50/50. I wonder why the so-called board vote hates Final Fantasy so much. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 12:22:29 PM | message detail |
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I hope this match ends in Duck Hunt/DK style, except much closer. How
exciting would it be waiting to see if FF gains just enough votes in
the final update? --- Sp2k6: 60/64 Rank: Tied for 1018th Losses: Halo, GTA, SF Nominate Nidoran F and Yesterday's Pick: FF Today's Pick: FF Today's Vote: Zelda CATS in the character contest! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:22:43 PM | message detail |
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I don't know tranman.... but that swell from 3-7 AM was awesome as hell. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:22:48 PM | message detail |
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Because Final Fantasy wins all the time, lololo --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| transience | Posted 8/1/2006 12:23:19 PM | message detail |
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by the way, turd of the contest has to be GTA in my mind. we knew
Shadow Hearts was going to get killed, but GTA went from being a
contender for fourth strongest series to below the fodder line. as far
as expectations go, GTA is the big loser. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:23:35 PM | message detail |
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I hope this match ends in Duck Hunt/DK style, except much closer.
How exciting would it be waiting to see if FF gains just enough votes
in the final update? If FF had to gain 100 votes or less in the final update I'd be flipping out. Sure 100 is a big gain to get, but dammit that would be awesome. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 12:24:04 PM | message detail |
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I know. Usually I give awards to series that matter, but it got killed so ridiculously hard I just couldn't resist. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/1/2006 12:24:15 PM | message detail |
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Congrats to the 5 perfects. --- Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:25:04 PM | message detail |
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Eh, NintendoFAQs is tolerable. ProNintendoAntiFinalFantasyB8 is...well,
I tried not to pay too much attention to the NCAA contest during the
regular season. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:25:34 PM | message detail |
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OH GOD 27 VOTE CUT, FF COME BACK. IT'S MORE THAN IT NEEDS PER UPDATE. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Big Bob | Posted 8/1/2006 12:25:37 PM | message detail |
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Sonic? A disappointment? He overperformed on DMC, then got what (I, anyway) was expected against Super Smash Bros, which then did great against Super Mario Bros. I'm happy with him being top 5. >.> --- Damned Z1mZum, beating me by one point. I'm gonna be pissed if Toadette makes 2k6 and Mewtwo doesn't. |
| FlamboyantSpy | Posted 8/1/2006 12:25:49 PM | message detail |
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29 votes works too. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids - Team Tranny Did! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:25:59 PM | message detail |
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Although it's not anti-Square in the slightest. This board loves them some KH. (and I'm not just talking about me, lol!) --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| transience | Posted 8/1/2006 12:26:17 PM | message detail |
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one of those perfects is red13n's alt, so we really only have four. for
a contest that seemed so predictable (and nothing weird happened), 4
perfects is pretty low. --- xyzzy I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE! |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:29:43 PM | message detail |
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And 45,000 brackets increased the odds of a perfect bracket. If we had
had this many entries for the Villains Contest, there would have been a lot of perfects. --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| THEJackSparrow | Posted 8/1/2006 12:30:47 PM | message detail |
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ProNintendoAntiFinalFantasyB8 is...well, I tried not to pay too much attention to the NCAA contest during the regular season. Just take solace in knowing Square > Nintendo in the finals of the NCAA Character Contest! --- "...And then they made me their chief." - Captain Jack Sparrow |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:31:37 PM | message detail |
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It's that groupthink that occurred with FF/Zelda...a tossup beforehand,
but once the stats topic makes their minds up (and does so with little
dissent, although many Zelda supporters refused to dissent
intentionally), it spreads like wildfire through the board brackets.
Just watch how the perfects, -1s and -2s burn on this match while
everyone else does reasonably well. It's so strange how a select few people post here, yet logically virtually the ENTIRE board has to read these things. It's like...wow. HEY IF YOU'RE READING THIS AND DON'T POST HERE, I HATE YOU --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| NewLib | Posted 8/1/2006 12:32:06 PM | message detail |
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I will remember this contest for one thing mainly. Worst match pic ever. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=18 --- --NL-- Where am I? |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/1/2006 12:32:38 PM | message detail |
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Slow, I completely disagree with your analysis of our psuedo females
bracket to be. The chicas may not have a high as high (Samus is no
Sephiroth) but it has a narrower band of power and many more near
elites than villains. Aeris, Zelda and Tifa may not beat Ganon and
Bowser, but they outnumber them. We also have a shot for Yuffie who
should beat Diablo with ease. Heck, we've already seen Rikku, Yuna and
Chun-li above old scaly too. I can't say abad things about the idea
when the contest should have seven or more characters capable of
beating the viallains contest's 4th place. --- ... Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/1/2006 12:33:00 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and let's not forget outside chances like Marle and whatnot. --- ... Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 12:34:46 PM | message detail |
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Worst contest picture? Heh, that's probably not even in Snake's top
three (or bottom three, if you prefer). As I see it it goes... 3. Snake/Zelda 2. Bowser/Snake 1. Frog/Snake Plus, Resident Evil/Street Fighter was *far* worse. Sure, we laugh about it now, but if Street Fighter had won the complaints would have never stopped... --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Slowflake | Posted 8/1/2006 12:35:03 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, that's true. But still, the other day we were trying to find 16
worthy females and struggled towards the end. Imagine 32, now. Hey, could be worse... it could be Japan vs. the world. What would the latter have? Master Chief, Diablo, Vercetti, CJ... ummm... Dark Samus if she gets the nominations... mmmm... nope, sorry. --- i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/1/2006 12:35:20 PM | message detail |
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Just take solace in knowing Square > Nintendo in the finals of the NCAA Character Contest! Good times... LockeFAQs > BowserFAQs > PreseaFAQs > the rest --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |