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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 338

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jonthomson | Posted 8/1/2006 7:35:34 AM | message detail
2000+. The acceleration away begins.
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NidoranF | Posted 8/1/2006 7:43:00 AM | message detail
Final Fantasy is so screwed.
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Nominate Nidoran F
Tediz247 | Posted 8/1/2006 7:53:14 AM | message detail
*wakes up*

****ing NintendoFAQs. At least give us a good match.
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NidoranF | Posted 8/1/2006 8:03:31 AM | message detail
Zelda's taking off.

IT. IS. OVER.

Final Fantasy? Screwed.
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Kaxon | Posted 8/1/2006 8:05:53 AM | message detail
FF is trying to put up a fight, but nothing can stop the machine...
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voltch | Posted 8/1/2006 8:05:57 AM | message detail
how come everyone complains when final fantasy wins and start bashing it's games yet never do the same thing with zelda?
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/1/2006 8:07:10 AM | message detail
Final Fantasy = Choke Artist

This was FF's match to lose. After all, FF7 is the supposedly the Best. Game. Ever, according to GameFAQs faithful, but the series is getting it's ass whooped by Zelda. I mean, FF7 embarassed OoT in the Game Contest, and FF had more games in the top 100 than Zelda. FF loses, and deserves to lose.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/1/2006 8:07:45 AM | message detail
A good match? It's BEEN pretty good -- one of the better opening hours in a championship match yet, and this match is almost-certainly not goin' to go 55-45. There's other series I wish was here beside LoZ and FF, but it's not been too bad of a match.
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ps2rulezzz | Posted 8/1/2006 8:11:32 AM | message detail
ok. it's over on to the next contest, where link will beat cloud again.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/1/2006 8:32:37 AM | message detail
I would try to combat all this anti-Zelda vibe, but it would be a bit unprofessional of me, seeing as how the Stats Topic seems to be a haven of sorts for FF fans. I'm sorry for you guys, but I cannot hide the joy I feel inside. Not only is my favorite series winning, but it's pulling off the most unexpected win since 2003.
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Kaxon | Posted 8/1/2006 8:37:49 AM | message detail
Not only is my favorite series winning, but it's pulling off the most unexpected win since 2003.

Sorry, but I have to point to Knuckles/Magus here.

On the bright side, this match is gaining on FF/Mario in total votes. It's less than 200 behind at the moment.
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badnewsbrown | Posted 8/1/2006 8:37:54 AM | message detail
^^

Good job on the 2003 Cloud Link parallel.

This match definitely reminds me a lot of that.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/1/2006 8:38:49 AM | message detail
Sorry, but I have to point to Knuckles/Magus here.

I was referring to the championship match. This is the most unexpected champion since Cloud in 2003.
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Kaxon | Posted 8/1/2006 8:43:43 AM | message detail
Oh, definitely. Before the contest I thought Zelda had no chance. And I do like Zelda. It's just that I get tired of seeing Zelda win everything. If Cloud had won the last two contests and this happened, I'd be celebrating.
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Kaxon | Posted 8/1/2006 8:56:59 AM | message detail
Anyone have the motivation to do % by hour for this match?
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Phediuk | Posted 8/1/2006 8:59:24 AM | message detail
I'd like to point out that this is the most exciting final we've ever had. Not that that's saying a whole lot.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/1/2006 9:04:13 AM | message detail
Legend of Zelda's% by the hour

1:00 55.33%
2:00 52.31%
3:00 50.41%
4:00 48.86%
5:00 47.16%
6:00 46.87%
7:00 48.37%
8:00 49.63%
9:00 51.08%
10:00 51.68%
11:00 52.67%
12:00 52.80%
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/1/2006 9:05:09 AM | message detail
Oh, and the hour listed is the hour before it. So 12:00 is 11:01 to 12:00
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/1/2006 9:05:59 AM | message detail
Let's see, my projection for noon that I made at 6 am
12:00:

Legend of Zelda: 42,080/51.72%
Final Fantasy: 39,282/48.28%

Lead of 2798

Total: 81,362

Well, the vote totals have gone up again so... yeah. Other that that, not bad.
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jonthomson | Posted 8/1/2006 9:09:26 AM | message detail
Interesting to note that the votals from halfway through yesterday's match are pretty much identical to today.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/1/2006 9:11:06 AM | message detail
More votal adjustment, and..



16:00

Legend of Zelda: 59,607/51.87%
Final Fantasy: 55,311/48.13%

Lead of 4296

Total: 114,918



20:00

Legend of Zelda: 71,827/51.52%
Final Fantasy: 67,590/48.48%

Lead of 4237

Total: 139,417



24:00

Legend of Zelda: 80,822/51.16%
Final Fantasy: 77,157/48.84%

Lead of 3665

Total: 157,979


There we go. My goal is to get it right within 300 votes >_>
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Kaxon | Posted 8/1/2006 9:18:38 AM | message detail
The 2004 final is underrated in my opinion actually - maybe because no one was awake for the good part. But Cloud was really fighting there for a while in the early morning.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 9:20:19 AM | message detail
He did even more in 2k5. Didn't stop him from getting flattened even more.

Cloud/Sephiroth was the closest one, though it was hardly entertaining. Too many people wouldn't shut the hell up on the all-FFVII final. Y'know, 'cause 2k2 was so much better.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2006 9:26:05 AM | message detail
I just noticed that SMB got the same percent as Mario did in Mario/Crono III
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/1/2006 9:29:20 AM | message detail
Y'know, 'cause 2k2 was so much better.

You're telling me. That Link/Ganondorf final sucked.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 9:30:44 AM | message detail
Huh? Ganondorf? 2k2 was an all-SMRPG final!
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/1/2006 9:35:59 AM | message detail
Yeah, FF isn't even putting up a fight anymore. Sucks that this match was ruined by the morning vote.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 9:37:31 AM | message detail
I do commend it for putting up a tougher fight than Cloud with much higher votals. This will probably look like those 'could have gone either way' matches when all is said and done.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/1/2006 9:55:39 AM | message detail
I'd like to point out that this is the most exciting final we've ever had. Not that that's saying a whole lot.

The most exciting championship match was CT/FFVII, if you ask me. Chrono Trigger leading FFVII for thirty minutes and going back and forth for an hour beats anything we've seen in this match. Oh, sure, it got ugly after that hour, but this match has hardly been entertaining. Zelda has been in complete control since the start.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/1/2006 9:57:44 AM | message detail
You're telling me. That Link/Ganondorf final sucked.

Hey, Link/Ganon is far more entertaining than Link/Mario, yo!! I know I loved seeing Link get something like 500 votes before Ganon got one ... or something nutty like that.

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NidoranF | Posted 8/1/2006 10:18:52 AM | message detail
Wow, no one cares that FF won two updates in the last fifteen minutes?

I'd figure there'd still be one fan sticking with FF beyond reason saying FF will come back from this.
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/1/2006 10:23:12 AM | message detail
The lead's just too large. Unless FF starts making a huge, Master Chief-like push, it isn't winning. This is pretty much over.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/1/2006 10:53:04 AM | message detail
The lead is over 3300, but FF is hanging in there. With such high vote totals, and the fact that it will only get better for FF from here on out, it might have a small chance at a Duck Hunt style comeback.

From 13:45 to 24:00 EST:

FF gained 0.68% against SMB.
Yuna gained 0.93% against Ganondorf (different start time)
Chrono Trigger held essentially even with A Link to the Past, but lost quite a bit to FFVII.

Ok, so FF really doesn't have much of a chance, but I refuse to call the match. FF is more or less stalling Zelda in the middle of the day, and Zelda is far better in the morning than in the afternoon.



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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 10:54:34 AM | message detail
FF is actually winning some updates during the day here. But FF will still need a miracle. I'm talking 100 vote updates during the evening.
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Yesterday's Pick: FF Today's Pick: FF Today's Vote: Zelda CATS in the character contest!
Matroshka67 | Posted 8/1/2006 10:57:26 AM | message detail
Zelda in the middle of the day, and Zelda is far better in the morning than in the afternoon.

Zelda has actually been surprisingly consistent during this contest. True, morning is its best time, but it has been dominant from morning to the end of the poll. True, with Final Fantasy's night vote history and the fact that it's the strongest thing that's ever trailed, it will force the final result to be pretty close. However, Zelda already has a 3300 vote lead and is the strongest thing that's ever lead.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 10:59:16 AM | message detail
Wow, that last update was the also the kind of miracle I was talking about.
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Yesterday's Pick: FF Today's Pick: FF Today's Vote: Zelda CATS in the character contest!
BDawg | Posted 8/1/2006 11:00:09 AM | message detail
It was kind of funny going through the old posts and seeing people hoping against hope for a FF comeback. And knowing that their hopes are for naught. But I have to wonder how people vote for Zelda but not Mario against the same opponent?
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/1/2006 11:00:12 AM | message detail
Does anyone have the updates for Donkey Kong/Duck Hunt? Thanks in advance.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/1/2006 11:01:23 AM | message detail
Just when FF wins an update, Zelda smacks it down and takes everything it lost back, and then some. lol ZeldaFAQs.
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MurderousNun | Posted 8/1/2006 11:02:29 AM | message detail
We're also ahead of Final Fantasy/Mario now. If FF makes a killer push during the evening, I wonder if we can hit 160,000.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/1/2006 11:02:56 AM | message detail
It was kind of funny going through the old posts and seeing people hoping against hope for a FF comeback. And knowing that their hopes are for naught. But I have to wonder how people vote for Zelda but not Mario against the same opponent?

Just because you like one series doesn't automatically make you like the other. I voted SMB > FF, but also voted FF > LoZ.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 11:06:25 AM | message detail
I just check and around 4 PM is when FF started consistently winning 55% updates on Mario. If that happens again, it'll need that 8 hours to come back from 4000+ down.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 11:07:21 AM | message detail
lol @ biggest comeback ever in a Finals match

against Zelda
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TRE Public Account | Posted 8/1/2006 11:09:55 AM | message detail
Does anyone have the updates for Donkey Kong/Duck Hunt? Thanks in advance.

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/04Spring/04Spring-AllVoteUpdates.txt
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/1/2006 11:12:18 AM | message detail
*hugs Karma, HM, tranny, Leon, Ulti, Giggsalot, and other FF fans*


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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 8/1/2006 11:16:54 AM | message detail
What the hell is going on right now? FF's kept Zelda in check for the past 20 minutes!

Zelda really dropped off the map there too. Only 250 votes.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/1/2006 11:30:31 AM | message detail
Gah, Final Fantasy's collapsing now. I'm tired of the Nintendo domininance on this site and especially this bored.

I know a lot of people are, because they call it Nintendofaqs every chance they get, but they say it as it it's bad and undeserved. If it's not Nintendofaqs, what should it be? A mostly balanced, distributed site where the results vary from year to year? FF and Cloud win sometimes; it's true, they really do. But if they won all the time, I'd think the people supporting Link and Mario would be more justified in truly claiming for an upset. Cloud and Sephiroth are old and neither has been in a completely new game since FFVII that actually mattered. Yeah, they had cool roles in Kingdom Hearts, but they're hardly the focal points. FFVII won best game again on this site not last year, but still, we're Nintendofaqs and hate everything square.
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red sox 777 | Posted 8/1/2006 11:34:02 AM | message detail
This is about the time that Yuna began to increase percentage against Ganondorf, and Magus began to slow down Ganondorf. Also, Crono returned to gaining against Mario around this time in 2003. The day vote gradually transitions into the evening vote a lot earlier in summer than during the school year, and while Zelda and Mario are good in the afternoon, we are heading towards Final Fantasy's strongest time. This will end under 51/49. Come on Final Fantasy for the largest comeback ever!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 8/1/2006 11:34:05 AM | message detail
I'm glad the obvious had occured to you.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 11:42:07 AM | message detail
FFVII topped a top ten list from a pool that is extremely dissimilar to the voting pool. More and more I'm thinking FFVII is less of a lock for winning another Games Contest -- and it ain't gonna be TP that does it, for those that are delusional.

Which proves that NintendoFAQs isn't all bad, as it does throw many matches into question that weren't debated before. Could OoT upset FFVII? Could Mario 3 or SSBM take down CT?

Even matches like this are still relatively close -- correct me if I'm wrong, but won't this end up as one of the closest matches of the contest? -- and this is still an upset by the board's standards. It's not an ideal situation by any means, but NintendoFAQs isn't all bad.

The problem with it is that it's not enough. For all the shift that we had in 2k5, Mario didn't even come close to beating Sephiroth. Bowser couldn't upend Snake, and I doubt Ganondorf can either. If you take Link out, I don't care if Nintendo boosts for five more years, this is still going to be CloudFAQs.

So if it's not going to be enough, why have it at all? Keeping Nintendo and Square close is the optimum circumstance for unpredictability, so I'd like to see it continue.

Actually, what I'd like to see is something other than Nintendo and Square actually get a foothold in these things. Honestly, GameFAQs, would it have killed you to let Dante > Vincent, Ryu > Bowser, or The King of All Cosmos > anyone?
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