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| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/1/2006 1:44:16 PM | message detail |
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Well, Square has, what, three games this generation that most Square
fans can get behind? They rivaled Nintendo in the three previous
generations because they put out so many games, and not just main
series Final Fantasys, either. They really dropped the ball this
generation in terms of quantity, for whatever reason. It's not terribly
surprising that Square has been slipping on GameFAQs since 2k3, the
year that the second big Square game came out. --- Luigi, Magus, Kefka, Ike, Alucard, Phoenix Wright Lyn, Peach, Celes, Lenneth, Presea, Alex Roivas |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:44:58 PM | message detail |
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You know, after seeing how high Mega Man X ended up ranking
(relatively, of course), did it really get SFF'd by the Legend of
Zelda? Or would it actually end up being stronger than Mega Man? --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Yesmar | Posted 8/1/2006 1:45:24 PM | message detail |
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I think we all just need to take a breath and calm down. EVERY YEAR we
go through the same "These contests have become hopelessly predictable;
why should we have them anymore?" and then every year or so there's a
shift and everything turns on it's head. 2003: Link will win easily. WRONG! 2004: After Cloud and FFVII won the last two contests why would Link have a shot at winning? WRONG! 2005: Other than Link winning, the last two years have been dominated by Square. Why would Nintendo start doing better? WRONG! This happens time and time again. Nothing in these contests is predictable, and we've been learning that in every contest since 2003. Trust me, "NintendoFAQS" isn't gonna last forever.* Hell, this has been the most unpredictable final since the first two contests, and probably one of the most exciting final matches we've had, and people are STILL complaining about being predictable. Plus, I think it's hypocritical for some people who are complaining now to be rooting for Mario to win yesterday, but when Zelda turns around and beats FF, all anyone in this topic can say is "Waaah, NintendoFAQS." Make up your mind or stop complaining. *Unless Wii totally revolutionizes the market or something. --- "Dropo! You're the laziest man on Mars." The Funky Chickens in Trivia XVIII |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 1:45:38 PM | message detail |
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if you want some guidelines, the follow games are underrated in the stats: Metroid Pokemon Star Ocean Kirby Mega Man X Suikoden Weird Stuff happened to these: Diablo Warcraft GTA and that's only a guess. it could be that Mega Man X or Diablo is just that weak. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:46:03 PM | message detail |
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They really dropped the ball this generation in terms of quantity,
for whatever reason. It's not terribly surprising that Square has been
slipping on GameFAQs since 2k3, the year that the second big Square
game came out. But even now that Square has finally released another big game, things don't seem to be changing. And Final Fantasy XII probably won't change anything because of...well, the Wii. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/1/2006 1:46:24 PM | message detail |
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It was all thanks to Spirits Within...the rumored remakes of FF VII, VIII and IX could've came true if not for that flop. --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:47:32 PM | message detail |
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Plus, I think it's hypocritical for some people who are complaining
now to be rooting for Mario to win yesterday, but when Zelda turns
around and beats FF, all anyone in this topic can say is "Waaah,
NintendoFAQS." Don't worry. I was rooting for Final Fantasy yesterday. My whining is consistent. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/1/2006 1:48:47 PM | message detail |
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Ulti, I'd give an honorable mention to Western RPG fans as well. They
act as if any JRPG ever made is inferior to even the worst of Western
RPGs. Every JRPG has a "terrible" story, "clichéd" characters, and a
"menu-driven snorefest" for a battle system. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/1/2006 1:50:51 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but did Final Fantasy IX or Majora's Mask really change anything?
It's obviously hard to tell, what with no contests before 2k2, but I'd
argue against it, because of the impending PS2 (and GC). It's just too
late for XII to make a significant difference, and four big games per
generation is significantly under Square's average. I mean, they don't
have any minor titles unless you want to count Enix's half, just two Final Fantasys and two Kingdom Hearts. --- Luigi, Magus, Kefka, Ike, Alucard, Phoenix Wright Lyn, Peach, Celes, Lenneth, Presea, Alex Roivas |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:51:03 PM | message detail |
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Man, those Elder Scrolls fans were horrible on the day of the Street Fighter match. "Look at how complex Elder Scrolls is. Who cares if it's not more fun
than Street Fighter? Only a moron would vote for something like that
because he's too stupid to understand/enjoy Elder Scrolls! Fighting
games are just a bunch of button-mashing anyway! My five-year-old
brother could play that!" --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| TessaTestarossa | Posted 8/1/2006 1:51:49 PM | message detail |
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Also Ulti, I'm curious where you'd put Rhythm gamers... if you even think of us. --- lol AKJ @ work Z1mZum made me his GIR |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 1:52:12 PM | message detail |
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eh, I don't think I'm whining.. I just wish there was more balance is
all. it makes for a more fun contest atmosphere. hell, I like Metroid
more than anything Square's ever done. it's not like I hate Nintendo or
anything. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/1/2006 1:52:28 PM | message detail |
| MMORPG needs to die. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:52:31 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I've got a lot of respect for anybody who can actually play DDR well. Those guys are fun to watch. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2006 1:52:46 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but did Final Fantasy IX or Majora's Mask really change anything? One would hope the best Zelda game would make a difference. >_> --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SpC2k6 (61/64) LoZ v FF |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 1:54:15 PM | message detail |
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Josh calls me a "closet DDR fan" because I never boast of how dorky I
am on the pads. those games are embarassing as hell to me, but they're
fun as hell to play. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/1/2006 1:54:37 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, the people who insist that JRPGs have shallow character development are always good for a laugh. Yes, go back to your 1000th WRPG avatar who never speaks or has any form of development whatsoever. On the other hand, silent protagonists are quite rare in JRPGs nowadays. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 8/1/2006 1:56:31 PM | message detail |
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WoW players is self-explanatory. Not only has the popularity of
such a bad game completely ruined Blizzard (D3, SC2 and WC4 will
probably all be terrible), but these people don't care. MMO players in
general are the blight of gaming given that they're so obsessed with
their escapist realities, but they don't even care. They put a black
mark on the entire gaming community with their cyberaddiction. I don't quite understand the hate of MMO players. The only thing I can see is that the games are so engrossing that you really don't have time for other games, but I still don't see how the hatred is self-explanatory. --- "Civil government is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor" --Adam Smith |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 1:57:12 PM | message detail |
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And Zelda just spanked FF on another update. --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/1/2006 1:59:01 PM | message detail |
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lol ZeldaFAQs --- Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 2:00:09 PM | message detail |
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you know, there are bad fans of everything. I've met annoying Square
fans, rhythm game elitists, cult RPG elitists (these are especially
bad), fighting game elitists, "Nintendrones", irritating kids obsessed
with how superior Sega is to Nintendo, GTA/Halo idiots, 2d platforming
kids who brag about how good they are, people who think old = good,
"graphics whores", MMO freaks who never leave their house, "otakus" and
god knows what else. there are good and bad fans and it's as simple as
that. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2006 2:00:38 PM | message detail |
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I find the periodic +70 Zelda spikes the most confusing in this match. You have cut/stall for about 30 minutes, and then ZOMG ZELDA SPIKE, and then right back to cut/stall. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SpC2k6 (61/64) LoZ v FF |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 2:01:33 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe in all that you didn't mention anything about obnoxious Metal Gear fans. That's strike four, tranny! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 2:01:38 PM | message detail |
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You have cut/stall for about 30 minutes, and then ZOMG ZELDA SPIKE, and then right back to cut/stall. check the updates - last night that's how Final Fantasy was. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/1/2006 2:01:58 PM | message detail |
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Plus, I think it's hypocritical for some people who are complaining now to be rooting for Mario to win yesterday, I was one of those rooting for FF to beat it down as bad as possible yesterday, myself!! --- Give you 10G if you act like a chicken! Yes. No. |
| Phediuk | Posted 8/1/2006 2:02:03 PM | message detail |
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Oh yes. "Graphics whore". That term really just means "smart person",
because they have enough of a brain to realize that gameplay isn't the
only thing that matters. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 2:02:18 PM | message detail |
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Metal Gear fans? pfft, they're fewer in number than Mega Man fans, and the x-stats say so! rockman fanboys --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 8/1/2006 2:02:55 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe in all that you didn't mention anything about obnoxious Metal Gear fans. That's because our elitism is justified. After all, Metal Gear IS the best! --- Squall, Tidus, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling |
| xp1337 | Posted 8/1/2006 2:03:22 PM | message detail |
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I know, I was around for a decent bit of it, but FF was getting
consistent cuts, even if they were slim. And Zelda's spikes usually
weren't huge, like they are now. FF's spikes were only something like
+30, which while comparitively big, wasn't as big considering FF was
consistently cutting about 10 otherwise. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SpC2k6 (61/64) LoZ v FF |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 2:03:50 PM | message detail |
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I suppose it was your plan to make Metroid run into a wall of SFF all
the time so that it looks like fodder and gets you massive indie cred.
One problem, tranny! Even SFFed Metroid still blows out Shadow Hearts! --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 2:05:24 PM | message detail |
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I dunno, it was like -3 -3 -4 -5 -50 -45 -3 -6 +2... Metroid blowing out Shadow Hearts is fine to me! it just gets SFFed hard by something else and makes SH look that much worse. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 8/1/2006 2:06:52 PM | message detail |
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They really dropped the ball this generation in terms of quantity, for whatever reason. They ran into some issues about midway through the generation -- merger with Enix being apart of that. But yeah, that is as good a reason as any right there. Square really wasn't on top of their game this generation. They had FFX at the beginning, then a few years until KH, then a few more years until KH2 and now FFXII here at the end. That about covers their big games throughout this generation. FFXII's six year development pretty much sums up how bad Square had things this generation. That is the longest FF development cycle in their history, I believe. They do seem to be getting on the ball here recently, so if they can keep the games coming, hopefully GameFAQs goes back to being a bit more balanced. --- Give you 10G if you act like a chicken! Yes. No. |
| MurderousNun | Posted 8/1/2006 2:20:17 PM | message detail |
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http://gamefaqsisunited.ytmnd.com/ Let us not fight amongst ourselves. Let us stand as one. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| Redtooth | Posted 8/1/2006 2:24:31 PM | message detail |
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I used to be very surprised at the MMO hate people had all the time. I
always felt that these games were engrossing and incredible. I played
RO for several years and have tried several other MMOs as well. But then I looked back at what people were like in those games. Every 5 minutes in any of those games, someone would be trying to scam you or exploit you. If you were ever in a big city, everyone would be spamming useless spells to crash people with poor connections, hundreds of merchants would pollute the streets with overpriced merchandise, and dozens would chase you around asking for money. I guess at least it has a realistic feel, but it was still terribly stupid. This coupled with the cheaters, dupers and botters gave a terrible view of MMOs. Truthfully, I think it's just because of the size of these things. If the population of these MMOs could be restricted, I'm 100% sure the community would improve dramatically. Every MMO I've played in the Alpha/Beta stages never seem to have the problem of 10k idiots destroying the atmosphere. The reason I loved RO so was because, although there was lameness all around me, I still managed to find a great group of players whom I've sticked with for years. That and my odd love for grinding levels at even the slowest pace... --- Every man is entitled to express his opinions and every other man is entitled not to listen.G. Norman Collie |
| MasterOfHunters | Posted 8/1/2006 2:35:42 PM | message detail |
| What is Nintendo doing?? Camelot leaves, making them the 3rd(maybe 4th?) 2nd party to jump ship. |
| Lopen | Posted 8/1/2006 2:38:11 PM | message detail |
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Plus, I think it's hypocritical for some people who are complaining now to be rooting for Mario to win yesterday, Oh, right, because we have to love all Nintendo franchises. Simply put, I don't hate NintendoFAQs, I like most of Nintendo's franchises... I just hate Zelda's dominance, that's all. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 2:41:20 PM | message detail |
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I'd honestly like *more* Nintendo franchises to have some
strength...things like Kirby seem to be simply unappreciated around
here, and that's too bad. DKC could stand to see some popularity, and
even the Star Fox games are some of my favorites (more than SF64?!
BLASPHEMY). And of course, the most underappreciated Nintendo game of all time...DIDDY KONG RACING. (blah blah I know some of these are Rare, blah blah I don't care) --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 2:42:37 PM | message detail |
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Strange as it seems, the more bad decisions Nintendo makes with third
parties the stronger they'll probably grow on this site. Less
third-pary support = more monopolizing from first-party titles, which
means a more captive audience for Nintendo's contest heavy hitters. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| ccbfan | Posted 8/1/2006 2:54:56 PM | message detail |
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The one wrench into the gears I'd love to see is Crono being in SSBB which leads to a new Chrono game for the DS. I'd expect a gigantic boost there. Could Crono beat Link in that state cause I think he could beat Cloud and Seph. |
| MurderousNun | Posted 8/1/2006 2:55:25 PM | message detail |
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I think the people asking for complete balance are asking for a bit too
much. It's very difficult for Square to give you that. Square will
always, always be at a huge disadvantage in the Character Contests.
Unlike Nintendo, they use different characters for each new Final
Fantasy title. You produce more characters that way, but you don't
necessarily produce more characters able to win matches. Cloud has been
in, what, four games? Mario's been in about 200. This is not unfair,
this is not bad, and this is not sad. It's simply the way things work. Of course, the reality is that traditional Character Contests represent about half of all contests on GameFAQs. If Square can't win those, they have to win all the other "unique" contests CJayC cares to churn out. That's simply unrealistic. --- Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your WOOOOOOOOORLD!!! |
| TheCruelAngel | Posted 8/1/2006 2:59:25 PM | message detail |
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Dammit, Ulti, FF fans should've topped the list in your worst fanbase list. =/ I'm incredibly happy with this result(and my favorite game is probably an FF one!) ^_^ --- Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!? Squall: ...Flower. |
| crazyisgood | Posted 8/1/2006 3:00:57 PM | message detail |
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well why do people hjave to rag on FF and Zelda if you dont like them fine but stop it --- randomness 22 http://misterpoll.com/2899466752.html |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 3:03:25 PM | message detail |
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They're surely at a disadvantage in terms of quantity, but GameFAQs is
far more receptive to their games and their genre in general. Honestly,
if Square were pumping out games on anything resembling a regular
basis, they'd be completely fine here. The fact that the main character
from FFVII along with a cameo in Kingdom Hearts can even be considered
on the same level as Link -- let alone beat him -- is evidence that
they'd be just fine if they actually returned to their former glory.
What happened to new and inventive titles like Brave Fencer Musashi and
Parasite Eve (the PE series produced a character that almost beat DK)?
Why has it turned to cash cow milking in the form of FFXI rather than
focusing on trying to give us the best games
possible? Well, money, really, but that's never stopped Nintendo.
Honestly, I'd love Square to be closer in terms of making a balanced
contest, but they kinda deserve to be behind Nintendo right now. Not that Nintendo isn't throwing out its fair share of bull**** right now, either. I'd go so far as to say companies like Namco are criminally underappreciated considering the quality of titles they're churning out presently. --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 3:07:00 PM | message detail |
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Nintendo dominance is really only Mario, Zelda and Smash. it's just that that accounts for a lot of characters. RPGs are proportionally more popular here because this is a FAQ site. there just haven't been any big ones in a while besides the KH series. --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/1/2006 3:08:46 PM | message detail |
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I mean, Katamari Damacy was a fad on this board as it was, but can you imagine if it had been a Nintendo game??? *shudders* --- Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are codes of behavior. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 3:09:32 PM | message detail |
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it might be as strong as.. Kirby!!!!! --- NOMINATE JAY SOLANO (Operation Shadow) for 2k6! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527124 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 8/1/2006 3:10:30 PM | message detail |
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It would lead Final Fantasy after 5 minutes! --- Nominate Magus and Crono! |
| DeepHyren12 | Posted 8/1/2006 3:11:46 PM | message detail |
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They ran into some issues about midway through the generation --
merger with Enix being apart of that. But yeah, that is as good a
reason as any right there. Square really wasn't on top of their game
this generation. They had FFX at the beginning, then a few years until
KH, then a few more years until KH2 and now FFXII here at the end. That
about covers their big games throughout this generation. FFXII's six
year development pretty much sums up how bad Square had things this
generation. That is the longest FF development cycle in their history,
I believe. They do seem to be getting on the ball here recently, so if they can keep the games coming, hopefully GameFAQs goes back to being a bit more balanced. Well, I think square did better than most do. Unlike people here on board 8 (but like much of the gaming population), I actually enjoyed FFTA and FFX-2, though I will admit FFX-2 wasn't as good as the original. For me, there were plenty of good squenix games coming out this generation: FFX FFTA FFX-2 KH KH2 FFXII looks awesome For me, that's as good as the FFVII-IX trinity that Square did so well in the last generation. For spinofs they have: Front Mission 4 FFCC Star Ocean 3 (admittedly more Enix than Square) DQVIII (ditto) KH:CoM Radiata Stories There was a slight drop in quality, but not as much as a lot of people think IMO. --- "Civil government is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor" --Adam Smith |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/1/2006 3:12:10 PM | message detail |
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Solid Snake > Link in 2K7!! --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/1/2006 3:12:13 PM | message detail |
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