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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 337

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creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:35:57 PM | message detail
More than Final Fantasy/Mario I meant, of course.

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:36:50 PM | message detail
"lol OoT, FF7, SotN"

lol those series were all less than 10 years old when those games came out.

Who lets Turtle into CSAD?
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:38:08 PM | message detail
FF really took advantage of the dead hours against Mario. This lead isn't big enough that Zelda's safe just yet. Unfortunately for FF, the day vote hours are considerably longer and more important than dead zone hours.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:39:20 PM | message detail
Wait, Zelda was 11 at that time. My bad. Either way, those series were all half as old as they are now when those games came along, and Mario already has a couple of titles on that level as it is. For Galaxy to surpass both Mario 64 and SMB3 it'd take a miracle.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:40:38 PM | message detail
aaand that's game. **** this site.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:40:39 PM | message detail
I don't think it necessarily has to surpass them to make a good match out of it, just...give us something significantly better than Sunshine!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:42:03 PM | message detail
And it's about the same reasoning for Zelda, too...I think Twilight Princess will certainly make Zelda as a series even stronger than before, and it looks to be just the next-gen clone of OoT.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/31/2006 10:43:50 PM | message detail

lol OoT, FF7, SotN


OoT, FF7 and SotN are the three games that introduced those series to new gamers and truly made them mainstream(Well kind of mainstream in Castlevania's way). Great job comparing that to a series like Mario.
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:44:14 PM | message detail
For Mario in a character battle I agree. For the Super Mario Bros. series I do not. We've all seen this contest play out, and it looks as if most voters take the whole series into consideration. For it to move the Mario series that much, Galaxy would have to be astounding. Otherwise, if it was just better than Sunshine, it'd just barely gain a single %. I mean, really, do you think it'd do significantly worse if NSMB hadn't come out? That game was at least better than Sunshine, after all.

And besides, by the time any of that matters FF12 will be out, and it will be liked. From what I've been told by people who actually know, the demo was bad but the rest of the game isn't
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:44:24 PM | message detail
If Zelda wins the next update I'm done following things for the night.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:44:47 PM | message detail
I'm about ready to call this match. Unless FF starts making it's move soon, it has a really uphill battle to even make this a match.

Granted, a 2000 vote lead with these votals is alot closer than some past matches with a 2000 vote difference.


TuRtLe
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:45:37 PM | message detail
I ****ing hate ZeldaFAQs. Good night, people.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:46:53 PM | message detail
Quick, someone do X-Stats based on a completely basis assumption of Zelda winning 55-45!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:47:09 PM | message detail
*baseless
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/31/2006 10:47:41 PM | message detail
Zelda > Tifa/Aeris
Ganondorf > Snake

ZeldaFAQs.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/31/2006 10:48:15 PM | message detail
LoZ gained percentage there...suh-weet.
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Figlar20000 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:49:04 PM | message detail
Zeldafaqs? Ha... 150k is a hell of a lot more than what other sites who host tournaments such at these ever rake in vote wise. And 150k is a hell of a lot of people. It isn't just this site's opinion, in general it's the opinion of a hell of a lot of people as a whole. And clearly your opinion is only going to be worth about 1/150,000th of this match approximately, so shut up if you don't like the results Extha.
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It's pitch black except for the light!
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:49:49 PM | message detail
Ganon can't beat Snake unless he's the hero of TP. Any bets on that happening?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:51:08 PM | message detail
Why is a lurker/noob/unknown alt telling people to shut up in a topic they don't really seem to belong in?
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Nyah | Posted 7/31/2006 10:51:43 PM | message detail
I'd be happy with Ganondorf or Bowser breaking the noble nine.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:51:47 PM | message detail
There you go again, ChiChi.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:52:09 PM | message detail
If you're right, let's just hope that Snake/Ganondorf doesn't happen until 2007, preferably on the 7th of July <_<


TuRtLe
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:52:11 PM | message detail
How about I'll voice my opinion whenever the hell I want to? ZeldaFAQs is pretty accurate.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:52:38 PM | message detail
"There you go again, ChiChi."

There you go again, Shake.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:53:17 PM | message detail
From ChichiriMuyo Posted 8/1/2006 1:51:08 AM
Why is a lurker/noob/unknown alt telling people to shut up in a topic they don't really seem to belong in?

lol the so-called "Contest Stat elitism", I was beginning to doubt it's existance


TuRtLe
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:53:17 PM | message detail
You know, Ganon starring in his own game would be pretty cool actually...

"Hunt for the Triforce"

or

"Glory of the Gerudo"

or

"For the Mastery of Hyrule"

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
Figlar20000 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:53:39 PM | message detail
The top 10 FAQ Pages would SERIOUSLY disagree with you.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:54:12 PM | message detail
In Chichiri's defense, I have never seen the guy before, but I don't really care how long you've been here. I'm going to tell you to sit and spin if you tell me to shut up when I voice my opinion, whether you're Ulti or randomnewb10231010.
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Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:54:36 PM | message detail
"How about I'll voice my opinion whenever the hell I want to?"

I'm in favor, and I'm casting the only vote that counts. Of course, you don't get to be counted among the composed individuals who get to rub it in people's faces later. *shrugs*
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:54:47 PM | message detail
And personally, I think the shift from SquareFAQs to NintendoFAQs is welcome if only for the change of pace. I was getting tired of Final Fantasy this and Kingdom Hearts that for the last 4 years.


TuRtLe
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
NewLib | Posted 7/31/2006 10:54:53 PM | message detail
I dont think a certain amount of stat topic elitism is necessarily a bad thing.

I mean it seems to keep this topic seperate from the behavior of most of the rest of the board (not that I dislike Board 8).


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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:54:58 PM | message detail
Someone hand Ex the box of razor blades already so he can shut up and get his angst on.
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Nominate Nidoran F.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:55:28 PM | message detail
From Figlar20000 Posted 8/1/2006 1:53:39 AM
The top 10 FAQ Pages would SERIOUSLY disagree with you.

XD


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/31/2006 10:55:30 PM | message detail
Woo!!

So, Zelda has no chance now, right? ;)

The best part about all of this is that after every Zelda and FF match of the contest, people would try to justify how FF is still stronger. Stuff like MMX was major, major, MAJOR SFF(I'm not saying there was no SFF. Just not to the extreme that was said) while Diablo is a strong series. And like RE had no SFF at all and MM is as strong as MGS.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:55:54 PM | message detail
I was getting tired of Final Fantasy this and Kingdom Hearts that for the last 4 years.

....have you even been here for the last two years? o.0
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/31/2006 10:56:07 PM | message detail
You know, Ganon starring in his own game would be pretty cool actually...

Even Tingle has his own game coming out. Ganondorf RPG?
creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:56:25 PM | message detail
ZeldaFAQs is pretty accurate.

I prefer NinZeldoFAQs (or NinZeldaFAQs)...more fun to say (or write, rather).

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:56:37 PM | message detail
RE didn't get SFFed. Resident Evil is not as strong as Mega Man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:56:41 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis?

More like ExOWN'DBYTHETOP10FAQSLISTNemesis mirite? =)


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
TheCruelAngel | Posted 7/31/2006 10:57:34 PM | message detail
FF won that update.
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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:58:41 PM | message detail
....have you even been here for the last two years? o.0

Okay, maybe when the DS came out is when it started to change, but that was probably the worst time, because Sony wasn't hated on at the time, so it was full-scale war between Sorny and Nintendo.

Now it's mostly trolls vs the Nintendo based rest of the site.


TuRtLe
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:58:48 PM | message detail
I don't need you to defend me, my friend. Not from Turtle of all people. I've never been ashamed to admit I'm an elitist, mostly because I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a valued member of CSAD that doesn't believe others such as myself should be told what to do in our "clubhouse". Doesn't matter who you are, if you're telling a respected member of this topic to shut up I'm goign to tell you that you've got no right to and if you don't like what we say you can find another topic to post in.
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 7/31/2006 10:58:50 PM | message detail
The best part about all of this is that after every Zelda and FF match of the contest, people would try to justify how FF is still stronger.

Nah, not everyone, just a few. Most of them were logical too, except RE > MG comments I've heard...O.o?
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/31/2006 10:59:31 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
56-----18------100.0000000
55-----158-----81.0126582
54-----436-----83.9449541
53-----620-----81.4516129
52-----1004----74.6015936
51-----1444----72.0221607
50-----2026----70.6811451
49-----2369----68.2566484
48-----2547----66.7844523
47-----2742----66.9219548
46-----2714----66.2859248
45-----2637----67.5767918
44-----2568----65.0700935
43-----2293----65.7217619
42-----2138----64.7801684
41-----1889----67.3372155
40-----1718----67.8114086
39-----1455----64.3986254
38-----1343----63.3655994
37-----1199----62.3019183
36-----1113----60.7367475
35-----1061----59.8491989
34-----1010----56.8316832
33-----899-----56.3959956
32-----822-----51.9464720
31-----824-----58.0097087
30-----812-----54.3103448
29-----705-----56.8794326
28-----670-----50.4477612
27-----649-----53.3127889
26-----582-----51.2027491
25-----485-----47.6288660
24-----505-----49.3069307
23-----432-----44.9074074
22-----388-----40.9793814
21-----367-----33.7874659
20-----276-----36.5942029
19-----257-----31.5175097
18-----222-----27.9279279
17-----133-----24.8120301
16-----137-----16.0583942
15-----114-----25.4385965
14-----84------15.4761905
13-----57------8.7719298
12-----56------7.1428571
11-----34------2.9411765
10-----17------11.7647059

Overall prediction percentage: 62.64%
Everybody with a score of 9 or less got the match wrong.

A semi final match with a group going 100? Pretty amazing. Also means we would have avoided a perfect bracket if SMB had won. The prediction percentage takes a huge dive at the -1s, but it still reamins above 80. Which is once again amazing for a semi final match, especially when you consider how close SMB got to FF in the end.

6 people fell off the Top 50 today. Tomoyo_Daidouji, PaGz_GF, OmniscientOne, Mingin444, Barbarian_K and chris1815, who had SMB taking the entire contest, have fallen off the Top 50 for taking SMB over FF. Better luck next contest.

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:59:45 PM | message detail
That's nice Chichi, except nobody cares what you think in this topic.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 11:00:41 PM | message detail
You obviously cared enough to respond to him specifically...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 11:01:36 PM | message detail
Trolls vs. Nintendo-based rest of the site? 45% of GameFAQs are trolls?

...actually, that wouldn't surprise me that much, but whatever...
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NewLib | Posted 7/31/2006 11:01:42 PM | message detail
I just like to say that TRE you are easily one of the most underrated people not only in this thread but on this board.

You deserve as much appreciation for the things you have added here over the years as many of the most respected people on Board 8.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 11:02:12 PM | message detail
ExTha, it's Shake, he'd troll a rock if there was a cricket chirping under it.
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creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 11:02:40 PM | message detail
Even in retrospect, we had no substantial indication of Zelda>Final Fantasy until Zelda/MG (and obviously Final Fantasy/SMB).

Really...89.97% on Civilization hardly screamed "Strongest force ever!" (Wow actually...Go Civilization! That's not bad) Whereas Final Fantasy/Diablo did. And the MMX and Metroid matches didn't mean too much.

Also you didn't need RE>MG to think Final Fantasy could win this at all. A Zelda victory under 55% wouldn't affect their relative strength rankings much anyway.

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.