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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 337

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:12:56 PM | message detail
You're subtlely trolling. Trust me, I can tell these things.
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Nominate Nidoran F.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:13:37 PM | message detail
And now it's time for an edition of...

Karma Hunter's Stream of Consciousness

Man, I hate family reunions. I don't know half the people here, they all know me from their obsessive inspection of every one of my family's pictures, and the food is somewhat lacking. I'm bored. Hey, I totally forgot, FF/Zelda is today. Hey, before you click on the poll, what do you think Zelda has right now, around two hours in? It probably has around 52% or so, if trends hold... Well, let's vote. WHOA. Over 55% here? Okay, not expecting FF to win...looks like its diversity hurt it, just as I feared all along. So much in fact, that it looks like Zelda is comparatively stronger than Link than Final Fantasy is stronger than Cloud. I know Cloud has the KH games to inflate that value, but still, that makes little sense. This is worse than any Link/Cloud though, and even worse than FFVII/OoT. I really doubt FFVII pulls it out today over OoT...though if it can, there's no way Twilight Princess beats it. People completely underestimate the value of nostalgia. Looks like the Finals of the Games Contest are no longer in question...which is sad, because the bracket itself will probably be boring as hell with what Ceej has in mind. Heck, I might very well take Cloud in the upset just because no one else on the board would do it. Not that it's good logic or anything, but it's almost worked in a few instances (Pokemon/Metroid being one). Saddening, but unfortunately this falls right in line with Zelda's comparability to Mario...heck, Mario might be even more close than expected. This makes Metal Gear look better than it used to, though. I guess that is a nice solace...after all, Zelda doing what it did on MG made me jump ship in the first place. It'll be harder to bash extrapolation now that FF isn't winning, though...it needs to make it closer, if anything.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:14:26 PM | message detail
Trust me, you're an idiot if you think I'm trolling anyone right now. I've never pretended not to, I've always admited when I've done it, and if I were trolling anybody I wouldn't have responded to what you said.

You sound like Shake, Alt.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 7/31/2006 10:14:26 PM | message detail
"It's not a bad topic by any means (my favorite series on GameFAQs), but people in here are too sure of themselves. I dunno, I always hoped that this place would be more mature and accepting than the rest of the board. Stat arrogance and calling crap that's in question just annoys me."

Like GTA > Warcraft right? ;)

Just kidding, it's something everyone here is guilty of. I don't think it's that bad of a thing really...

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The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006 Bracket:
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creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:15:48 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse31-8.jpg

^Anyone know where the Cloud in that picture is from? It look in-game. Is it from the PS3 demo or something?
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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:16:54 PM | message detail
That's FFVII Cloud on his motorcycle, I believe.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:17:11 PM | message detail
Deny it all you want. ~_^

Looks like Zelda's not slowing down as much as people thought it would. It's still making decent gains.
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Nominate Nidoran F.
dethfdddddh | Posted 7/31/2006 10:17:38 PM | message detail
Official 3D artwork made by Square to show of Fenrir.
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Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:18:13 PM | message detail
This is probably the most depressing thing I've seen on ZeldaFAQs.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 7/31/2006 10:19:03 PM | message detail
Ouch. if the lead gets to 4000, I think it's pretty much done.
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Sp2k6: 60/64 Rank: Tied for 1018th Losses: Halo, GTA, SF Nominate Nidoran F and
Yesterday's Pick: FF Today's Pick: FF CATS in the character contest!
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:19:10 PM | message detail
Wait, that's Fenrir? Are you sure?

And wait, Zelda only dropped 2% from the opening vote? Did the board massively bracket vote or something now that FF went up against something that it could fail against? YOUR BRACKETS ARE DEAD, PEOPLE
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LessThan3Presea | Posted 7/31/2006 10:20:04 PM | message detail
Nah, it's the motorcycle from the Shinra building. It's not in-game.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:20:25 PM | message detail
No, that's not Fenrir. It's a FFVII render. He's even got Hardedge with him:

http://barney1585.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cloud_on_motorcycle.jpg
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 10:20:48 PM | message detail
XD, Zelda's starting to increase even more now.

Not even Slow can stop Zelda.
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Nominate Nidoran F.
Ed Bellis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:20:59 PM | message detail
If Zelda wins, my mom will have only lost two points this whole contest.

I, on the other hand...

>_>
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This was Ed Bellis.
creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:21:02 PM | message detail
Thanks.

So his bike is called Fenrir? Pretty neat.

As for Final Fantasy fans, I skimmed the boards and they do seem relatively composed. The boards aren't going nearly as crazy as for some past matches, actually.

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/31/2006 10:21:39 PM | message detail
Like GTA > Warcraft right? ;)

Well sorry if I despise WoW freaks. We all have our weakness.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:22:09 PM | message detail
Because Final Fantasy fans are generally not immature little.... ungh... nevermind. =\
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:22:17 PM | message detail
"if the lead gets to 4000, I think it's pretty much done."

Nothing new about that. that's pretty much what everyone expects. Thing is, FF would have to fail to act like it did in the match it just had yesterday to see a vote gap like that within the next 12 hours.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 7/31/2006 10:22:43 PM | message detail
I coulda sworn the Shinra motorcycle was also called Fenrir.....oh well.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:25:32 PM | message detail
If I had gone with my gut picks, I would have had everything but CV > Halo and Warcraft > GTA right...and I had Halo > CV and GTA > WC anyway. LOL.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:26:16 PM | message detail
Just as I start to give up hope... Final Fantasy has it's best update yet..... come on FF... make it interesting.... win the next update... please.... please... ;.;
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:26:36 PM | message detail

Regardless, the post was in jest. Way too much text over a joke post.


Like I said, it being a joke doesn't eliminate the "problem," which isn't really a problem since it only occurs every once in a while. And I've noticed you typically just copy and paste one line of anything long I've written, and address that, instead of the whole thing. I doubt you consciously do that, but whatever, everyone's better now, but yikes, it wasn't fun to read.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:27:15 PM | message detail
Meh, this one is over...I'm shocked Mario is so close to Zelda as of right now, come to think of it. Mario gains the most from his series out of ANYONE?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:27:50 PM | message detail
"And I've noticed you typically just copy and paste one line of anything long I've written"

To be fair, that's often all that's necessary to convey your entire argument. :p
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/31/2006 10:28:01 PM | message detail
No, I don't consciously do that, but people have complained about it before.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:28:06 PM | message detail
Heck, come to think of it, could Mario with Super Mario Galaxy outright beat Final Fantasy in a rematch?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/31/2006 10:29:12 PM | message detail
One interesting thing to think of now is how strong Zelda's other games will be...especially Majora's Mask. Could it actually be stronger than FFVIII?
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whatev | Posted 7/31/2006 10:29:29 PM | message detail
On the list of weird things about this match is how it's looking like it will draw less votes than Mario/FF. Does that make sense to anybody?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:29:49 PM | message detail
No way I take Majora's Mask over FFVIII. I'd take FFVIII over FFX.
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:29:58 PM | message detail
From whatev Posted 8/1/2006 12:29:29 AM
On the list of weird things about this match is how it's looking like it will draw less votes than Mario/FF. Does that make sense to anybody?

It's not as close.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:30:09 PM | message detail
To be fair, that's often all that's necessary to convey your entire argument. :p

I chuckled.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/31/2006 10:30:13 PM | message detail
If Zelda finished with 55%, would it make MG > SSB?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:30:19 PM | message detail
No, not unless Galaxy is less than a week old or legitimately in contention for best game of the series. A single entry in a 20+ year old series isn't a big deal most of the time.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 7/31/2006 10:30:56 PM | message detail
OMG FF with a 50 vote shave.
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Scooped in a coupe, Snoop we got news/Your girl was trickin' while you was draped in your county blues
I ain't been out a second/And already gotta do some mutha****in chin checkin
BeTheMan | Posted 7/31/2006 10:30:58 PM | message detail
HOLD THE PHONE
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:31:01 PM | message detail
Oh god yes. It's not over.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:31:21 PM | message detail
"I chuckled."

Good. :)
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/31/2006 10:31:55 PM | message detail
FF finally wins an update.

Now even IF (big if) FF makes a good match of this, Link beats the hell out of Cloud during every day vote between the two. FF needs to not only go insane over the next few hours, but flat-out win the day vote tomorrow. I don't know if that can happen :(

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:32:31 PM | message detail
And Final Fantasy makes its first big cut, giving false hope across Board 8.

And I wonder about SMG. We haven't had a truly groundbreaking Mario game since Super Mario 64...Super Mario Sunshine wasn't even that well received by GameFAQs, frankly. If you were to have an entry in the series on Super Mario 64's level or higher, for once...heck, I could see it happening if FFXII underwhelms.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 7/31/2006 10:33:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's almost depressing from the "wanting to see a good match" perspective. But on the other hand, it beat Mario, after letting it lead for a while! It's a soul crusher, it deserves it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:33:29 PM | message detail
Mario/FF dropped off a bit during the day, maybe that's where Zelda/FF will make up the difference...


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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:33:30 PM | message detail
FF does better in the day than Cloud, from what I've seen. Not a big difference, but whatever. Chances are, this'll be a match to remember, regardless of who wins. Too bad people are calling it before it really starts.
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Yesmar | Posted 7/31/2006 10:33:50 PM | message detail
Meh, this one is over...I'm shocked Mario is so close to Zelda as of right now, come to think of it. Mario gains the most from his series out of ANYONE?

I'm not surprised. Both Mario and his series serve as representatives of both a company and to an extent, video gaming in general, and that's where they draw a lot of their popularity from. The reasons for their popularity are essentially the same, so it makes sense to me that Mario would gain a lot from his series.
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creativename | Posted 7/31/2006 10:34:34 PM | message detail
I do expect this to still get more votes than Final Fantasy/Zelda, because I don't think it is as frontloaded (mainly due to the board loving Mario so much, and also possibly the Sunday night/Monday night thing, though I don't know which way that would affect frontloadedness).

Very nice to see Final Fantasy win an update (it should win quite a bit overnight, and gain a few hundred votes at least during its peak time). If Final Fantasy breaks 48% by the end though it would almost be a moral victory.

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As the best poster in the stats topic, I move that we all stop acting like elitist know-it-alls about matches that aren't horribly obvious.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/31/2006 10:34:35 PM | message detail
It's already "really" started. You don't exactly see 2000 vote comebacks all the time.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/31/2006 10:35:11 PM | message detail
From ChichiriMuyo Posted 8/1/2006 1:30:19 AM
No, not unless Galaxy is less than a week old or legitimately in contention for best game of the series. A single entry in a 20+ year old series isn't a big deal most of the time.

lol OoT, FF7, SotN


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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/31/2006 10:35:29 PM | message detail
The biggest comeback ever against anything Zelda related was...what, Starcraft?

Yeah, forgive me for being pessimistic here.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 7/31/2006 10:35:42 PM | message detail
You don't exactly see 150k vote totals all the time, either.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 10:35:49 PM | message detail
....false hope I see. God damnit.
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