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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/30/2006 10:29:10 PM | message detail
Regardless of what happens in this match, I think it's safe to say that Zelda won't lose unless it's on purpose.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



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Draco1214 | Posted 7/30/2006 10:29:39 PM | message detail
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Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros.
Aprosenf | Posted 7/30/2006 10:30:21 PM | message detail
Then Zelda shall lose on purpose!
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener
transience | Posted 7/30/2006 10:30:50 PM | message detail
anyone saying FF is so screwed seriously is out of their mind. I'd say it's 50-50.
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I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/30/2006 10:31:39 PM | message detail
FF is so screwed!


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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1
Nominate Carmen Sandiego for Character Battle V
MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/30/2006 10:31:41 PM | message detail
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/30/2006 10:34:02 PM | message detail
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longbladeofhiko, I hereby give you my official seal of owneditude.-Hogasm
wizkid357 | Posted 7/30/2006 10:34:26 PM | message detail
FF is so screwed
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When life gives you lemons,throw them at life.
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/30/2006 10:36:01 PM | message detail
Pfft, if Mario can't beat FF, why should Zelda? Zelda is but a speck in the eye of the Italian Stallion.
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jonthomson | Posted 7/31/2006 6:04:09 AM | message detail
Match 31 - Legend of Zelda vs Final Fantasy

We've reached the incredibly obvious final after 30 days worth of mindless obvious matches, the occasional believable update and some downright daft results. As is, I'm starting to regret my pick of Final Fantasy. Right now, Mario is keeping things respectably close to FF, much closer than my "FF should start to be worried" line that I thought about yesterday. 53% and slowly rising isn't that great, if we consider a few things:

- Zelda is obv stronger than Mario
- Mario has shown strength in precisely one match in this entire contest up until now
- Zelda has crushed everything in its path, 80% in all up until the final where it was quite close to tripling Metal Gear
- FF has shown (relative) weakness. Apart from crushing Diablo, it's done little more than expected, if not worse. Failing to triple Mega Man, only just tripling RE.

The only question is whether Zelda, which has a fairly similar fanbase to Mario by definition, will be able to close down the few percent to take it from what Mario is doing right now to the victory. I see no reason why it can't, apart from the possibility that the (probable) huge vote totals will somehow favour FF in the same way that Cloud was in the 2003 victory over Link. Oh god, it really is too close to call. I'm just glad I don't have a decent bracket riding on it. But I'm calling the upset. Because it's exciting.

(edit from the other topic - er, yeah, I just saw what Mario did for an hour. Lollerskates)

Bracket says: Final Fantasy
Favourites bracket says: Metroid
Vote says: Zelda
Prediction: Zelda with 50.71%

Fun fact of the day: This is only the second contest where jonthomson has got both of the finalists correct.

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Phediuk | Posted 7/31/2006 10:09:04 AM | message detail
I'm thinking that we're going to have another Best Game Ever contest next spring. Ceej is likely waiting for Twilight Princess' release before doing another one, since it's the one game that can cause a major shakeup in the bracket.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/31/2006 10:59:15 AM | message detail
I think my oracle is going to end up being FF with around 50.5 or so.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 11:39:35 AM | message detail
Why wouldn't FF finish with over 53% here, Slow?
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Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111
Slowflake | Posted 7/31/2006 11:40:01 AM | message detail
XD @ complete unknown who snags the 500 post and wastes it with a ToS violation.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/31/2006 11:40:02 AM | message detail
WORST. 500TH POST. EVER.
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
Slowflake | Posted 7/31/2006 11:40:34 AM | message detail
I dunno, it's only going to have a few hours near the end to do that.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 11:40:44 AM | message detail
And my 500th post would have been so much better. ;_;
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Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 11:43:17 AM | message detail
Well so long as it doesn't drop too much more, it shouldn't have a problem.
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Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111
Draco1214 | Posted 7/31/2006 11:44:38 AM | message detail
Hmmm...I wonder how big FF's lead will be at the end. Like Janus and Ulti have said, I doubt percentages mean as much when vote totals are so insanely high.
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Currently Playing - Suikoden V, Street Fighter Alpha 3, New Super Mario Bros.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/31/2006 11:49:07 AM | message detail
Who thinks this poll can possibly get to about 180 k?
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I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator!
Dagan Bomb For The WIN!
Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/31/2006 11:49:51 AM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Super Mario Bros. will dethrone Link as Most Impressive Loser (and will be dethroned a day later by Zelda/FF).
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Nominate Nidoran F.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=29527160
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 11:50:41 AM | message detail
Fiction and then Fact.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 11:51:22 AM | message detail
Actually, scratch that. Fact to both.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
gonf | Posted 7/31/2006 12:04:45 PM | message detail
XD @ complete unknown who snags the 500 post and wastes it with a ToS violation.

XD @ you for taking pride in being known on a video game message board.
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Most wanted game: LoZ: TP
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:06:31 PM | message detail
Where does he take pride in being known? You fail at reading comprehension.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
Slowflake | Posted 7/31/2006 12:06:33 PM | message detail
Do you think I care? Trying to get the 500th post just for the sake of it is stupid.
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
TRE Public Account | Posted 7/31/2006 12:07:34 PM | message detail
XD @ you for taking pride in being known on a video game message board.

That line doesn't work so well when your have over 1000 Karma.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
transience | Posted 7/31/2006 12:08:44 PM | message detail
hmm... between the match picture (don't believe much in this, but it's there), "it's friggin' Mario" and the possibility of other Mario side series helping out Mario, I'm feeling more and more confident about FF > Zelda. it looks like FF's stopped bleeding percentage and will probably end up aound 53%.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
gonf | Posted 7/31/2006 12:09:02 PM | message detail
Here come the Board 8 elitists.

*Runs for his life before he's flamed*
Oh, wait...too late.
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Most wanted game: LoZ: TP
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/31/2006 12:10:36 PM | message detail
Please....I advise you...don't try startin stuff up in the Stats topic.

In other news, whose leadin the nomination tally right now?
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I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator!
Dagan Bomb For The WIN!
transience | Posted 7/31/2006 12:10:41 PM | message detail
...who are you, and why would anyone care about you enough to flame you?
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
gonf | Posted 7/31/2006 12:11:21 PM | message detail
That line doesn't work so well when your have over 1000 Karma.

I may have over 1000 karma but I'm not an attention seeker, sir.
What I don't like is people getting bitter because an "unknown" got the last post in a topic.
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Most wanted game: LoZ: TP
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:12:24 PM | message detail
...where was anyone bitter? Again, you fail at reading comprehension.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
gonf | Posted 7/31/2006 12:13:16 PM | message detail
...who are you, and why would anyone care about you enough to flame you?

I'm just an "unknown". :P

*Fades away*
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Most wanted game: LoZ: TP
LordOfDabu | Posted 7/31/2006 12:15:20 PM | message detail
One could probably argue that the first and last ten posts of every contest stat discussion is a waste, as they typically have little to do with the actual topic.

I'm still amazed at today's results. I didn't think Mario would put up this much of a fight at all, yet judging from many topics on the board, there's a number of people who expected Mario to win this fight. The only thing that could make this stranger is if Mario puts up a better fight than Zelda. I hope that doesn't happen, as I'll have no idea what to think. I mean, sure Mario 3 showed it was strong, but it shouldn't be close to Ocarina's level.
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gonf | Posted 7/31/2006 12:16:35 PM | message detail
...where was anyone bitter? Again, you fail at reading comprehension.

Here maybe.

Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/31/2006 3:40:02 PM | message detail
WORST. 500TH POST. EVER.


Ok, got to go. ^_^
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Most wanted game: LoZ: TP
transience | Posted 7/31/2006 12:18:10 PM | message detail
WORST. 500TH POST. EVER.

somebody writes this about every 500th post. they write it about me all the time and I'm far from "new" or "unknown". you need some thicker skin if that kind of thing bothers you.
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xyzzy
I lost a sig bet to War13104. Yes, the same guy who had Kefka over Crono. FOR THE HORDE!
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/31/2006 12:18:53 PM | message detail
Yeah man, its all good in da hood
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I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator!
Dagan Bomb For The WIN!(longbladeofhiko/Masa)
Samurai7 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:19:06 PM | message detail
I'm still amazed at today's results. I didn't think Mario would put up this much of a fight at all, yet judging from many topics on the board, there's a number of people who expected Mario to win this fight. The only thing that could make this stranger is if Mario puts up a better fight than Zelda. I hope that doesn't happen, as I'll have no idea what to think. I mean, sure Mario 3 showed it was strong, but it shouldn't be close to Ocarina's level.

FF SFF'd CT and CT ~= LttP ~= OoT ~= SMB3!!!! rofl

>.>
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Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:19:09 PM | message detail
Then you haven't been hanging around the stats topic for very long. People comment about 500 posts all the time, but nobody takes it seriously... except you, this time.

Anyway, how's this match looking to finish with votals? Is it still on pace for over 155K?
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:20:15 PM | message detail
Believe me. If I was bitter, and over getting the last post in a freaking stats topic for crying out loud, I wouldn't quoting a petty fad.
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it's CJayC. He's probably been meaning to make such a feature for 5 years but hasn't gotten around to it yet. - Ulti
ExThaNemesis | Posted 7/31/2006 12:25:32 PM | message detail
Friends... gaming chums... a great evil resides over this land of GameFAQs...

...a sinister fiend... the Legend of Zelda. It holds its grasp firmly around the throat of our land of GameFAQs. Zelda hasn't lost anything in well over two years... it is threatening to stamp out hope of a successful rebellion.... but tomorrow, we hold our last stand.

Tomorrow, the knights of Final Fantasy make their last charge up the mountain to take on Link and his evilness. This is our last stand, we must make sure that it is successful... we must make sure that the light of hope remains in the hearts of the faithful... and we must prove once again, the one truth of the universe... and that is.... that this world... is...



Square.
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Everything's 10X better with a RKO and Orton pose. ~ Donkey111
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/31/2006 12:26:20 PM | message detail
THESE T-SHIRTS ARE TOO TIGHT CJAY!
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I'm a 6' 238 lb Gladiator!
Dagan Bomb For The WIN!
RPGuy96 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:35:16 PM | message detail
15:30 votal comparison!

Final Fantasy/Super Mario Bros. - 111332
Metal Gear/Kingdom Hearts - 95901

FF/SMB has 16.09% more votes than MG/KH. Given MG/KH's final votal of 137,513, this match is projected to end with:

159,640 votes.
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Luigi, Magus, Kefka, Ike, Alucard, Phoenix Wright
Lyn, Peach, Celes, Lenneth, Presea, Alex Roivas
Slowflake | Posted 7/31/2006 12:35:50 PM | message detail
Damn.

How far will Zelda/FF go, then?
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i thought people on gamefaqs had good taste in games i guess i was wrong -EstUmbra
Oooh... Yeah... I need... condom... sixty nine!! -IENJOYHAM
Tediz247 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:37:00 PM | message detail
I'll say 175K.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
Master Moltar | Posted 7/31/2006 12:37:32 PM | message detail
To infinite and beyond!
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Super Mario Bros. vs. Final Fantasy - Bracket: SMB - Vote: FF (54/56)
RPGuy96 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:37:50 PM | message detail
Super Mario Bros. percentages by the hour:

16:00 | 47.43%
15:00 | 47.15%
14:00 | 48.34%
13:00 | 48.67%
12:00 | 49.05%
11:00 | 47.66%
10:00 | 47.66%
09:00 | 46.88%
08:00 | 45.53%
07:00 | 42.49%
06:00 | 44.10%
05:00 | 42.71%
04:00 | 45.77%
03:00 | 46.64%
02:00 | 48.86%
01:00 | 50.60%

Struggled in the dead zone, nearly pulled even around noon, and now it's pretty stable.
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Luigi, Magus, Kefka, Ike, Alucard, Phoenix Wright
Lyn, Peach, Celes, Lenneth, Presea, Alex Roivas
Janus5000 | Posted 7/31/2006 12:40:50 PM | message detail
Super Mario Bros. 47.54% 53376
Final Fantasy 52.76% 59228
TOTAL VOTES 112269

Heh.
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"Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/31/2006 12:53:55 PM | message detail

I may have over 1000 karma but I'm not an attention seeker, sir.


Right, that's why you're coming into the stats topic, not talking about anything contest related, and trying to start ****. Get the hell out.

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