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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 333

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Giggsalot | Posted 7/29/2006 8:47:57 AM | message detail
Maybe the twist is that there is no twist.

>__>
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/29/2006 9:05:37 AM | message detail
We're reading far too into this... it says the twist is readily apparent, and if we didn't get two 32 character sections, one male, one female, I'd be shocked. It'll suck, yeah, but oh well. I honestly don't understand why any of the users ever wanted a female contest, but now it looks like they're gonna get their crapfest.

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Kaxon | Posted 7/29/2006 9:09:01 AM | message detail
I honestly don't understand why any of the users ever wanted a female contest, but now it looks like they're gonna get their crapfest.

Most people didn't, it was just the logical next step after the villain contest.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/29/2006 9:13:31 AM | message detail
I don't care if it's 32 women as long as Phoenix Wright still gets in
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Super Luigi | Posted 7/29/2006 9:22:33 AM | message detail
So Phoenix Wright can get his ass kicked? And rightfully so.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/29/2006 9:23:59 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright v. CATS.


Do the right thing, CJayC!!

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/29/2006 9:30:28 AM | message detail
I'd actually give that to CATS, I mean, 30% on Master Chief is no joke!!

Oh, and CN, I sent you the first part of the Analysis Topic via e-mail. Can you tell me if you got it or not?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/29/2006 9:32:45 AM | message detail
So Phoenix Wright can get his ass kicked? And rightfully so.

I would post one on those objection maker things here, but that would just be too expected
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swirIdude | Posted 7/29/2006 9:40:33 AM | message detail
Then I'll do it.

http://objection.4camp.net/go.php?n=497584
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The *only* good thing about this contest is that Ceej might share with us the split between female/male nominations for Samus. ~creativename
gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 9:47:07 AM | message detail
Part 333? I should have made this. ='(
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 9:57:35 AM | message detail
The problem is, all fodder vs. fodder matches will be on the female side.

God I hope Ulti's right about Sheena being stronger than Lloyd, if only because I'd love to see her kick Terra's teeth in.

With ****ing playing cards.
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/29/2006 10:06:50 AM | message detail
I think Sheena will be stronger than Lloyd. The TOS fanbase actually likes her.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/29/2006 10:08:59 AM | message detail
Sheena being stronger than Lloyd wouldn't be surprising. She's a very solid second right after Kratos among the ToS fanbase.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 10:25:17 AM | message detail
Not stat-related, but still fun to think about... Something just struck me like lightning. I'm pretty much certain CJayC put Sephiroth and Liquid Snake in the same division on purpose.

*FF7 and MGS spoilers*

On one side, you have a superpowered, yet uber-pansy, super-soldier who goes nuts after discovering he was the subject of a genetic experiment, and who gets his ass kicked repeatedly by another, inferior, subject from the same experiment. Said super-soldier has the ability to NOT ****ING DIE, no matter how much he gets killed, and likes wearing a trenchcoat while still revealing his upper body.

On the other side, you have a superpowered, yet uber-pansy, super-soldier who goes nuts after discovering he was the subject of a genetic experiment, and who gets his ass kicked repeatedly by another, inferior, subject from the same experiment. Said super-soldier has the ability to NOT ****ING DIE, no matter how much he gets killed, and likes wearing a trenchcoat while still revealing his upper body.

Catch a theme yet?
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 10:25:40 AM | message detail
*in the villain contest.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/29/2006 11:25:40 AM | message detail
I just realized that in FF/Diablo, FF had the picture advantage, with Cloud and Squall taking the headlight. In the other pictures you've got Cecil, Terra, Yuna, and Zidane (among others), who are not part of the most popular games in the series.

FFVI is strong, yet Terra is not?

Anyway, the semifinals and final matches could have different outcomes depending on who's representing Final Fantasy. But if it's Mario/Cloud and SMB wins, I will laugh my ass off.
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 11:31:43 AM | message detail
Anyway, the semifinals and final matches could have different outcomes depending on who's representing Final Fantasy. But if it's Mario/Cloud and SMB wins, I will laugh my ass off.

Well, since the pictures will be user-made, I imagine every series will be represented very well. I also expect to see mostly FFVII-FFX related pics.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 11:37:21 AM | message detail
Yeah, I think CJayC's been mostly keeping Cloud and Sephiroth aside because they'll be getting copious coverage in the usermade pics.
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LegendarySnake | Posted 7/29/2006 12:17:16 PM | message detail
At the 15:15 mark, this match has 93805. To compare with other matches at the same time:

Final Fantasy/Mega Man - 94119
Zelda/Metroid - 92861
Metal Gear/Kingdom Hearts - 94261
Super Mario Brothers/Super Smash Brothers - 87153

Final Fantasy's individual vote total against Mega Man: 70039
Final Fantasy's individual vote total against Resident Evil: 71289
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 12:22:48 PM | message detail
So, do you guys think this is some Playstation SFF working against Resident Evil, or is Mega Man simply the stronger series?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/29/2006 12:23:46 PM | message detail
Mega Man is simply the stronger series, no doubt about it. How many of you would actually expect Street Fighter to have a chance of winning a match against Mega Man?
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gtonizuka49 | Posted 7/29/2006 12:25:31 PM | message detail
Ya, that's what I'm thinking. I know I wouldn't take Resident Evil or Street Fighter to beat Mario Kart with 58%.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 12:29:01 PM | message detail
Hey, it could be worse. We could have 32 non-Japanese characters, like I brought up earlier.

Who the hell would be on that side of the bracket? Master Chief, Diablo...and the rest fodder. Eww.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/29/2006 12:31:03 PM | message detail
A lot of Grand Theft Auto and Blizzard, that's for sure.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 12:32:13 PM | message detail
Oh wait, Sub-Zero has a chance to not be fodder. Barely. But MK hasn't won any new fans since 2002, so it would be iffy.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/29/2006 12:33:21 PM | message detail
On the contrary, Deception was well-received from what I've heard.
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/29/2006 12:36:02 PM | message detail
Prince of Persia a one seed?! Non-jap character contest here I come!

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/29/2006 12:39:26 PM | message detail
http://www.chronocompendium.com/

The Serge rally lives on!
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 12:39:53 PM | message detail
Well, here's the list of all the non-Japanese contestants we've ever had that I posted in the last topic.

SC2002-

Scorpion (22nd)
Raziel (24th)
Lara Croft (27th)
Duke Nukem (33rd)
Max Payne (35th)
Crash Bandicoot (36th)
Spyro the Dragon (37th)
Q*Bert (41st)
Pitfall Harry (42nd)
Abe (51st)
Gordon Freeman (53rd)
Gabe Logan (56th)
Guybrush Threepwood (58th)
Kane (59th)
Dirk the Daring (61st)
Serious Sam (62nd)

SC2003-

Master Chief (26th)
Tommy Vercetti (27th)
Scorpion (31st)
Sam Fisher (35th)
Lara Croft (37th)
Duke Nukem (45th)
Conker (46th)
Raziel (47th)
Crash Bandicoot (50th)
Max Payne (51st)
Gordon Freeman (53rd)

Sp2004-

StarCraft (8th)
Halo (10th)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (12th)
Metroid Prime (17th)
Half-Life (20th)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (23rd)
Goldeneye 007 (25th)
Doom (30th)
Mortal Kombat (31st)
Perfect Dark (36th)
Tetris (40th)
Fallout 2 (51st)
Pong (54th)
Pitfall (57th)
Adventure (64th)

SC2004-

Master Chief (15th)
Tommy Vercetti (26th)
Scorpion (33rd)
Duke Nukem (36th)
HK-47 (37th)
Jak (40th)
Max Payne (42nd)
Conker (43rd)
Crash Bandicoot (46th)
Sam Fisher (47th)
Kain (48th)
Lara Croft (50th)
Gordon Freeman (51st)
Sly Cooper (55th)
JC Denton (56th)
Earthworm Jim (57th)
Guybrush Threepwood (63rd)
Tanner (64th)

Sp2005-

Diablo (4th)
Officer Tenpenny (32nd)

SC2005-

Master Chief (21st)
Diablo (33rd)
Tommy Vercetti (35th)
Gordon Freeman (37th)
Sam Fisher (40th)
Kratos (44th)
Conker (48th)
Joanna Dark (54th)
Agent 47 (57th)
Sarah Kerrigan (58th)
Carl Johnson (63rd)
Manny Calavera (66th)

Top 100-

#7: GoldenEye 007 - N64
#9: Halo: Combat Evolved - XBOX
#11: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - PS2
#18: Starcraft - PC
#20: Diablo II - PC
#25: Half-Life 2 - PC
#27: Grand Theft Auto III - PS2
#29: Metroid Prime - GC
#31: Half-Life - PC
#33: Doom - PC
#34: Tetris - GB
#35: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - PS2
#36: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - XBOX
#39: World of Warcraft - PC
#44: Perfect Dark - N64
#48: God of War - PS2
#49: Half-Life: Counter-Strike - PC
#56: Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings - PC
#58: Mortal Kombat - ARC
#60: Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos - PC
#62: Burnout 3: Takedown - PS2
#64: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn - PC
#67: Deus Ex - PC
#70: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater - PS
#73: Fallout 2 - PC
#74: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - GC
#75: Command & Conquer Red Alert - PC
#78: Battlefield 1942 - PC
#80: Call of Duty - PC
#85: Halo 2 - XBOX
#86: Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - PS2
#87: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - XBOX
#90: Unreal Tournament 2004 - PC
#91: Madden NFL 2004 - PS2
#96: Grim Fandango - PC
#100: X-COM: UFO Defense - PC

SC2006-

Civilization
Halo
Madden
Grand Theft Auto
Warcraft
Diablo
The Elder Scrolls
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/29/2006 12:42:56 PM | message detail
For whatever it is worth, I noticed that Chrono Compendium is advertising the nomination period on their site -- it was created by someone who originally came from the CT board, too, just to throw it out there.

"I know just as much as the next guy that the character battle is a stupid popularity contest. But it's still something passively fun to watch unfold. Nominations have just opened, and the time has come to get the Chrono series assuredly represented. You have to sign up at Gamefaqs to nominate. You are allowed 7 males and 7 females this contest. I realize you may have other characters you'd like to nominate; once you've typed them in, just fill the remaining spots with Chrono entries. Do it in this importance, as listed on the full Chrono ticket:

Males: Crono, Magus, Frog, Serge, Lynx, Glenn, Cyrus
Females: Kid, Marle, Schala, Lucca, Ayla, Harle, Queen Zeal

That order. Serge, Lynx, Glenn, Kid, and Harle are from Chrono Cross, so mark that in the game box. For everything else, mark Chrono Trigger. So if you've already nominated a few characters and only have three spots left (one for males, two for females), you'd nominate Crono, Kid, and Marle to round out your choices. Since Chrono fans blew the series contest by misspelling the prefix "Chrono", this is a chance to make up. Don't misspell the names of these characters. Use copy-paste if you have to. Nominate them at http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/contest_nominate.php"

(http://www.chronocompendium.com/)

Crono and Kid seem to be the important ones to nominate going by their order system!!

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Big Bob | Posted 7/29/2006 12:44:32 PM | message detail
Shouldn't Jak and Ratchet be on those lists?
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FlamboyantSpy | Posted 7/29/2006 12:46:00 PM | message detail
We should have all nominated NORG.

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thok | Posted 7/29/2006 12:46:41 PM | message detail
Since I'm bored, random thoughts on female nominations.

Megaman: Roll and Tron Bonne are the big ones I've seen mentioned. I'd suspect that Iris (MMX4) would be the third strongest and might even be strong fodder. Leviathan (MMZ) is probably below the fodder line. I can't see any of Mayl and Yai (both MMBN), Alia (MMX), or Ciel (MMZ) having any useful strength; there's a bunch of random Command Mission/late MMX series robots that aren't even worth mentioning.

Metroid: Samus, Mother Brain. Nuff said.

Mario: Peach. Techinically Birdo's a boy, and Cackletta is fodder.

Chrono: I've said before Ayla>Marle>Lucca. I wouldn't be surprised if Schala was stronger than Marle, or even if Zeal was stronger than Lucca. Somebody ought to rally Flea nominations for fun (even if he is male). All others are fodder.

Metal Gear: I'm surprsed that there isn't much love for Sniper Wolf; is she really that far below Revolver Ocelot/Liquid Snake.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/29/2006 12:50:42 PM | message detail
I think Kid stands a reasonable chance of being the best Chrono female entry, myself.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 7/29/2006 12:51:31 PM | message detail
As long as Harle doesn't get in. That'd make me sick.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/29/2006 12:52:28 PM | message detail
Indeed. Seeing Harle in the contest would suck hard.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 1:02:32 PM | message detail
Stupid popularity contest, eh? Show me another non-specialized site where a Chrono character is among the six most popular. If anything those guys should be thankful things are the way they are. (Granted, Magus and Frog being so weak compared to Crono is really hard to explain, but meh.)
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/29/2006 1:17:26 PM | message detail
Zeality is a tool. Everyone that goes to the CT boards know that except for the people that worship the tool
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/29/2006 1:21:25 PM | message detail
Since the match seems to have stalled in this range, some preliminary statistics:

Final Fantasy – 50.00%
Mega Man – 25.81%
Resident Evil – 24.00%
Street Fighter – 23.65%
Mario Kart – 21.62%
The Elder Scrolls – 16.66%
Diablo – 14.02%
Shadow Hearts – 5.88%

Diablo gets 79.03% on Shadow Hearts!
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 1:24:37 PM | message detail
Elder Scrolls above Diablo? Didn't expect that one.

WE WANT DIABLO 3, BLIZZARD, AND WE WANT IT NOW!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/29/2006 1:25:16 PM | message detail
333 omg
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 1:35:07 PM | message detail
I'm going to be picking up the Diablo Battle Chest sometime soon. Includes Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo II: LoD, and the Prima guide for Diablo II. I haven't played Diablo II since 2002, but from what I remember it's the clickiest game ever made.

Apparently the original Diablo is even worse for that. Kinda difficult to comprehend.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 1:39:20 PM | message detail
Because picking attacks from menus is REALLY SUPER AWESOME!!!

Seriously, I just don't get what's different between picking attacks from a menu and choosing the enemy to attack by putting a cursor on it then pressing a button, and picking attacks from a menu and choosing the enemy to attack by clicking on it.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/29/2006 1:41:04 PM | message detail
No we don't, Slow. We want Starcraft 2.

I think something might have happened with FF/Diablo, because I really don't see The Elder Scrolls beating Diablo, and I think Street Fighter would struggle as well. Ah well, it's not like we'll ever get another series contest.
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voltch | Posted 7/29/2006 1:42:45 PM | message detail
so shadow hearts is the weakest game in he field?
or is it because fodder tends to fluctuate like crazy?
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/29/2006 1:44:54 PM | message detail
I think Street Fighter would crush Diablo. I can't see it being on par with series like Resident Evil and being that close to Mega Man.

Hell, I'd take Mario Kart over Diablo. Though I have to admit it would be tough to choose between Elder Scrolls and Diablo.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 1:45:20 PM | message detail
FFF (Fodder Fluctuation Factor, for the scrubs who don't know) FTW.

The weaker the opponent, the stronger fodder becomes. Hence why contestants involved in fodder vs. fodder matches are often overrated by the X-stats.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/29/2006 1:46:41 PM | message detail
Seeding Shadow Hearts over Diablo was a joke from the get-go.

At least RE/Diablo would've been a compelling death trap for many people.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/29/2006 1:48:00 PM | message detail
And God knows how FF/Shadow Hearts would've gone.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 7/29/2006 1:49:50 PM | message detail
I personally think fodder fluctuation is a load myself. Vyse looked the same regardless of whether he was facing Cloud or Donkey Kong.
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Presea, Chun-Li, Tifa, Celes, Quistis, Amy Rose, Mei Ling